Root Access

4:17 PM

I finally measured the time it takes to import prod db on my dev environment. Two minutes. Two goddamn minutes.

@bwDraco Measuring network speeds with netcat and dd

I was thinking about putting my laptop on the router's built-in GbE switch and testing from there but I can't really do this right now.

Dog

4:47 PM

@Bob Sup cap'n obvious

djsmiley2k

twitter.com/TheRegister/status/789508052164628480

lol oh right

so @bwDraco you were testing the wifi ... via speedtest.net?

bwDraco

Yeah, but I don't have a storage server or other better solution at the moment.

Mokubai

@bwDraco Or you could just get yourself a proper Network Stress Testing tool, I believe Overwatch is the current tool of choice for inducing stress over a network...

allquicatic

@Dog I really wish OVH would offer servers with that... it wouldn't cost them more to purchase the CPUs or operate them than what they're already paying, right?

oh, and I also wish Intel would ship an E5 variant with Iris Pro that allows for dual processor

one can dream: dual 6-core Kaby Lake E5s with two Iris Pro chips with eDRAM

That Brazilian Guy

16 hours ago, by Dog

Decided I should save my money and just stuff my face with cookies and pringles. Every McDonalds I don't go to is another 2% of the way to a new laptop!

> save my money (...) with cookies and pringles

Mokubai

4:56 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm not entirely sure the cost-per-gram of pringles matches that of McD...

That Brazilian Guy

1 can of pringles = 3x a bus ticket.

Mokubai

Wow you have cheap busses. A bus fare here far outstrips a can of pringles, and that only to go one stop down the street

allquicatic

@Mokubai Same here -- mass produced food is ridiculously cheap; the labor of a bus driver plus the cost of operating the equipment and infrastructure is way more

That Brazilian Guy

> Wow you have cheap busses

allquicatic

the only people who can't afford pringles in the US are people who have literally zero income -- even if you're on a fixed income from the government, you probably can afford pringles no problem.... but a bus ticket, now that can get pricey very quickly

That Brazilian Guy

5:00 PM

2013 protests in Brazil

The 2013 protests in Brazil, or 2013 Confederations Cup riots, also known as the V for Vinegar Movement, Brazilian Spring, or June Journeys, were public demonstrations in several Brazilian cities, initiated mainly by the Movimento Passe Livre (Free Fare Movement), a local entity that advocates for free public transportation. The demonstrations were initially organized to protest against increases in bus, train, and metro ticket prices in some Brazilian cities, but grew to include other issues such as the high corruption in the government and police brutality used against some demonstrators. By...

> The demonstrations were initially organized to protest against increases in bus, train, and metro ticket prices

@Mokubai We don't have cheap busses, we have expensive everything.

1 bus ticket = 0.5% minimun wage. 1 pringles can = 1,56% min. wage

allquicatic

@ThatBrazilianGuy :(

That Brazilian Guy

A friend of mine is living in Portugal and arrived in Rio last month and was constantly shocked by the local prices

allquicatic

Everybody Wants To Be A Cat

►

truer in this chatroom than most other places

That Brazilian Guy

Portugal, well maybe not Portugal specifically, but Europe is considered a rich place comparatively.

And even then, prices were much higher here. That's so infuriating.

> Everybody Wants To Be A Cat

allquicatic

@ThatBrazilianGuy how is their Portuguese accent compared to native Brazilian accent?

That Brazilian Guy

5:05 PM

@allquicatic Different. To the point of "dafuq they said".

allquicatic

interesting

That Brazilian Guy

Imagine neutral movie-like US English vs heavily-accented brit English

That's how it sounds to me, at least.

I bet to them it sounds like neutral brit eng vs heavily-accented hillbilly stereotype

@allquicatic However, said friend is originally from here.

He was shocked by the prices, high even for local standards of a few years ago

Yesterday I was going to buy orange juice. It was 0.9% min wage. For a goddamn 300ml cup of orange juice.

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

That Brazilian Guy

For the last few years, fancy "gastronomy fairs" with fancy "food trucks" are in vogue.

A goddamn hamburger costs, in average, 3,75% min wage.

allquicatic

@ThatBrazilianGuy yeesh

@ThatBrazilianGuy terrible. do you make more than minimum wage though?

That Brazilian Guy

5:17 PM

"Food trucks" for the last few years:

"Food trucks" when I was growing up:

They'd sell stuff like that:

Would be really cheap (1x to 0.5x a bus ticket)

Both the food and the truck would be affectionally called "big rotten"

@allquicatic Yeah, about 3.5x

bwDraco

DNS servers under DDOS. Someone's attacking core Internet infrastructure.

gizmodo.com/…

allquicatic

@bwDraco yup, that's killing me right now because it's affecting my ability to reach github

not completely, but it's "impaired", I'd say

also chat messages to chat.SE stay green for a LOOOONG time before posting

Ben N

Interesting, I haven't noticed any interruptions. What DNS servers do y'all use?

allquicatic

@BenN it's east coast US

Ben N

Ah

bwDraco

5:25 PM

dynstatus.com

allquicatic

seems to be hitting people whose ISP is chiefly backed by UUNet (Verizon) along the east coast particularly hard

bwDraco

Google DNS is having trouble, too.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Oh. That explains why I can't get to github or twitter ... DNS request timed out.

I'm currently using my ISP (EE) DNS

allquicatic

yay trial and error debugging

That Brazilian Guy

5:42 PM

@BenN Yeah, github opens fine and chat stays green for 2 secs

bwDraco

Somebody (possibly state-sponsored) wants the Internet down bad.

That Brazilian Guy

"Hey, we're trying to do a state coup here, look to the other side will ya?"

WHATEVER Dave

horray 36 commits ahead

go go gadget merge with master conflict gooo

:)

djsmiley2k

@ThatBrazilianGuy rat burger was a place in my youth

allquicatic

@WHATEVERDave I don't actually have a remote, really

djsmiley2k

5:57 PM

so the most amazing thing i saw on a night out was a 3 second burger

WHATEVER Dave

got cha

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k We had the "McPidgeon" ;p

djsmiley2k

@ThatBrazilianGuy haha

rat burger was the name opf the place, and the burger D

but the 3 second burger was weird. I still don't know how he did it

That Brazilian Guy

3 second burger? made in 3sec or eaten in 3sec?

Dunno what's weirder.

djsmiley2k

Basically we're in the taxi about to go home, and one of the guys goes 'i really really need to get a burger' - we're beside the place that has legendary queues for burgers and we know it'll be at least 10 min if he goes in to get one7

he jumps outta the taxi, walks upto the door, kind of spins on the spot, turns around and walks towards the taxi holding the burger, drink and fries

everyone in the taxi like ... 'wtf just happened?!'

That Brazilian Guy

6:09 PM

I've seen a guy do that with a bus.

Group walking on the street. Guy: "I need to get a bus". 1sec later: bus arrives and opens the door. In front of the guy.

djsmiley2k

:D

That Brazilian Guy

This one happened to me and a girl in an escalator:
She: "I want some ice cream, let's get back".
1 sec later: Escalator halts midway. We get back.

jokerdino

what kind of ice cream?

That Brazilian Guy

McDonalds vanilla ice cream cone, IIRC. It was many years ago.

Back when I wasn't married and went with girls to get ice cream ;)

jokerdino

:...(

djsmiley2k

6:13 PM

once i was walking past a phone box (when those existed)

it rang, it was my brother

XD

oh and the time i saw a taxi crash as we got a taxi outta town

my wife and sister were in that taxi crash (it wasn't bad)

carla

6:26 PM

Hi, does someone know how to make a shorcut of cygwin that ask for parameters?
I've set a shortcut of an script using this tutorial
http://www.trueblade.com/knowledge/using-rsync-and-cygwin-to-sync-files-from-a-linux-server-to-a-windows-notebook-pc
but it runs as if no parameter was set instead of asking for parameters...

Bon Ami

6:38 PM

hi Folks. What monitoring system do you use ? Anybody tried Prometheus.io ?

That Brazilian Guy

6:48 PM

@carla No...

@BonAmi ...and no ;p

I've never tried cygwin.

And I should look into some server monitoring solution, specially for web. But haven't yet.

allquicatic

7:13 PM

haven't tried it, personally

Ben N

What sort of monitoring do you have in mind?

I took a cursory look at that web site and I'm not sure what exactly it measures, but then again I'm not familiar with the area of servers big/important enough to need such instrumentation

Rahul2001

Hi

@BenN You just have a blog, right?

DavidPostill

@carla What exactly is the target of your shortcut? Note the tutorial runs the script with parameters - it doesn't ask for parameters. You would have to modify the script to do this.

Ben N

7:28 PM

@Rahul2001 I do have a blog

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill You could make the shortcut run a batch file, which asks for parameters and runs the required command

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Yes, of course. But this is bash. The existing bash script server-download.sh can also be edited to ask for things ... that would be more sensible than trying to mix bash and batch :)

Dog

@allquicatic Wat whyyy?

I mean if you're getting a system that high end and want graphics power, just get an NVidia GPU AIC?

@ThatBrazilianGuy Well these are ones I'd already had on hand, so zero extra cost

@Mokubai Or expensive pringles

Though bus fares do vary considerably, anywhere from a 1-hour 10 mile journey for £1.50 to a 1-minute 0.1 mile journey for £2.50

allquicatic

7:59 PM

@Dog simple: because a hosting provider is unlikely to jack up the price terribly much for a system with iGPU(s), but they tend to tack on another $1000 per month or so for even a small GeForce or Radeon card, not to mention a Tegra

dhaupin

When in SSH, how do i select a large visual block of text to copy (to putty) when mouse is enabled in Vim? The selection requires scrolling. It seems like there is no "in Vim answer" to this anywhere i can find. Without scrolling it works fine with shift + left-click-drag, but that mode of visual block wont init a scroll down

Basically, the block is larger than the viewport. The scroll needs to move the viewport while its selecting, then copy to clientside (putty) clipboard

DavidPostill

Minimum bus fare here is £2.00 or £2.20 (depending on the bus company - there are two competing even on the same route). That is one stop or 8 miles if I go to the city centre.

Dog

8:19 PM

@allquicatic That's a bit of an exaggeration, I've never seen a GPU box that even costs near $1000 a month let alone over.

OVH charge 160 euro a month for their GTX 1070 servers

And 80 a month for an Iris Pro iGPU server

Course the ones with dual NVidia Grid GPUs are like 600 a month, but that's hardly a "small GeForce" card :-P

That Brazilian Guy

@Dog THAT. VERY MUCH.

Dog

8:45 PM

Lol, a Samsung SSD with 16GB of RAM

NULL

9:04 PM

Hey quick question...I am trying to get this wifi card from my HP slimline and plug it into another computer via usb. It was originally plugged into the Desktop motherboard via a connector with 5 holes but only 4 wires going into it. I think its called IDC. Have yall seen this connector before.

Here is the part: ebay.com/itm/…

Like would this work with it: amazon.com/Adapter-designed-motherboard-external-connector/dp/…

Basically I am trying to interface the a wifi card meant to be plugged into a motherboard with a laptop by converting whatever its using to USB

@ThatBrazilianGuy Would that work?

@DavidPostill Would you happen to be familiar with this connector...or is it a custom one only HP makes?

anybody?lol

DavidPostill

@NULL No. I'm not a hardware guru :/ Software is my thing.

@NULL If anybody knows you will get an answer. Please don't ping random people.

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NULL

9:21 PM

alright sorry:)

Dog

9:36 PM

@NULL superuser.com/questions/ask

Dog

9:48 PM

I should probably change the defaults on my firewall :-/

That Brazilian Guy

10:09 PM

@NULL Would what wotk?

The internal-to-usb adapter?

Possibly. Who knows. I don't. You'd have to try.

You need not only physically compatible connectors, but software, protocol and OS-level compatibility

Or else that would work:

Dog

@ThatBrazilianGuy Are you saying it doesn't?

That Brazilian Guy

Apparently it does!!! 0_o

> I don't know if this parallel DB25 to serial DE9 to serial Mini DIN-8 to USB converting ghetto chain works, but a reader says it does, and I really, really want to believe him. Here's the alleged proof:

> It can be doctored, but the world would be a better place if it were real—even if it probably breaks the laws of quantum physics.

Well, then again, maybe it's a fake.

A video of this in operation would be nice

But it was 2010

Dog

@ThatBrazilianGuy It's a fake

That Brazilian Guy

The USB stick is plugged into a keyboard connector, right?

DavidPostill

10:28 PM

43

Q: How many port adapters, and which ones can be stacked up and actually work?

Someone posted this pic on twitter today: That won't work, right? Why, exactly? And, specifically, at which point the stack of adapters stops working?

@ThatBrazilianGuy @Dog

75

A: How many port adapters, and which ones can be stacked up and actually work?

None of them will do anything you expect. At all. The green one is a USB to PS/2 converter, it is a wire converter rather than signal converter. It will only work if the device you plug into it can detect how it is connected and speak both languages. Your USB stick will not do that, a USB mouse...

bwDraco

Rebooting servers as my hosting provider just deployed Linux 4.8.3.

(Major privilege escalation vulnerability discovered; this update fixes it.)

blog.linode.com/2016/10/21/…

Dog

10:56 PM

Well, a USB to PS2 adapter

The problem is they're all passive adapters with no power conversion. And no power tobegin with to power the USB stick with

Urgh it's just past midnight and I suddenly feel like getting some ice cream

Cats love ice cream. If ya know what I mean.

Journeyman Geek

11:34 PM

@NULL meh, a nano wifi adaptor is a few dollars

chances are that's basically a USB card with a non standard connector

Dog

Lol

Hey @Bob

I'm simulating your connection! Almost.

Actually, worse. I am, for shits and giggles, running remote desktop over 2G

(And hilariously enough it's far faster and more reliable than the shit this hostel calls "Wifi")

Journeyman Geek

@Dog do you also like to wear hair shirts and walk with burning coals in your shoes?

Dog

@JourneymanGeek Yes.

What can I say, it works. In fact it works better than trying to view or open web pages on the phone itself over 2G...

It's like mah personal compression proxy, downloads and renders a web page on a gigabit six-core, then recompresses it to h264 and send it over 2G to me

For this chat site it's barely even noticeable. Apart from the 250ms lag for your keyboard inputs to appear on screen

Also what do you mean hair shirts? I am a hair shirt.

Also that whole client side compositing/offscreen precaching business is nowhere near as smart as I thought it was

Journeyman Geek

hm

wait

@Dog you are using the mobile view on your phone, right?

Dog

It's just Microsoft have improved the encode/decode latency so much that a lot of stuff being done server side is reflected so quickly you can barely tell it's being done server side

@JourneymanGeek Right now? I'm on my laptop tethered to my phone over 2G

Journeyman Geek

11:49 PM

ah

I have an old question on the same situation you're in

Only worse

Dog

But even opening the BBC's mobile website (a relatively simple mobile site) over 2G on the handset itself takes like 12 seconds

Bob

o.o

Journeyman Geek

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Q: Speeding up/optimising Internet access for a slow connection

I'm currently stuck in a somewhat backwoods part of the world, with my only source of Internet being a CDMA type dongle. Webcomics are a slight pain in the rear, but work sloooowly, when they work at all. Some other stuff such as SU chat dosen't work at all. The dongle comes with some software ...

networking mobile-broadband

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