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Journeyman Geek

2:00 PM

On the contrary. This is actually how I prefer to moderate. I'm just finding that I'm not getting through.

"Hey, this is the core of your problem, don't do it" "I'll cut back" "No, not at all" "I'll cut back"

@bwDraco You need to take a timeout. Leave the room for a while. Go for a walk or something.

Let things go, go with the flow. It's not hard, it's a minor change.

Let's discuss something else...

Journeyman Geek

I think people are trying to do that.

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@allquicatic ^

wait. is @Aibobot still online?

I made my promise. I'm not forsaking it.

Journeyman Geek

oops

I HOPE I locked my office computer ;p

2:02 PM

@JourneymanGeek seen 1m ago

@JourneymanGeek As a mod can't you force a logout on @Aibobot?

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill the system auto locks, and no one knows my password

@JourneymanGeek Except the NSA :)

Journeyman Geek

I thought I closed that window tho

@DavidPostill well, my employer is vaguely american

I'm not exactly concerned about the NSA.

Journeyman Geek

2:04 PM

Yes

See, you made a mistake. Then you spend 5 lines talking about it.

Let's forget about it. I've had enough making a fool of myself. I need to focus resources on actually implementing the improvements.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill essentially that account barely has enough rep to do anything

I think I'm at closevoting now

8 mins ago, by DavidPostill

@bwDraco You need to take a timeout. Leave the room for a while. Go for a walk or something.

@JourneymanGeek Doesn't this require 3000 rep?

@Rahul2001 most shared hosting has decent database hosting as well

Journeyman Geek

2:11 PM

errr

downvoting

see? Mostly harmless

Heck, I even see ads

they will have a GUI thing

anyway

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi the eidritch horror known as phpmysql?

@bwDraco Please, stop reminding everybody else :/

@Burgi I'm not sure I'd want to use it. It's a huge security hole.

Journeyman Geek

tho basic db admin tasks are trivial IMO

I do it ;p

2:13 PM

(trying to force myself to behave without stepping out and taking a time-out isn't working)

4 mins ago, by DavidPostill

8 mins ago, by DavidPostill

@bwDraco You need to take a timeout. Leave the room for a while. Go for a walk or something.

Journeyman Geek

(we could just ignore him a bit ._.)

or that ;p

hi!

its handy if you are learning like @Rahul2001 is

walking is good, so is cycling

Oh, where did that come from. Bit over the top, no?

2:14 PM

its not like he is hosting enterprise stuff

@JourneymanGeek I think I need to be kick-muted more often if this continues, but let's hope this doesn't happen again.

Journeyman Geek

Yanno. Take a day off chat

See you in 24 hours

Took a breather. I think I should be able to continue.

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi true, but its worth knowing its not good practice eventually

I used it with my previous 'shared db' install of wordpress

Also, I like calling things eidritch horrors

Wouldn't something like sqlite or even a plain text information store be better in this case tho?

@Sathya Cycling is awesome!

Journeyman Geek

2:23 PM

Never been able to that. Something about ~~bikes being designed for bipeds~~ really bad balance

@Burgi From my limited experience with them, I've found SQL to be very messy and weird

shrug

Still, I'll look into it

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 I seem to recall sql is.. a pascal dialect

better go and study now... bye

Journeyman Geek

2:24 PM

and designed quite differently from a 'regular' programming language

Hello to all!

Survey: What is your favorite Operating System?

Journeyman Geek

Whatever's in front of me

depends on the job...

Journeyman Geek

I use windows (7 and 10), ubuntu, fedora....

any flavour of windows for gaming

Journeyman Geek

2:27 PM

I'm actually toying with going back to linux for my main machine

but gaming ._.

OSX for if you have a beard and more money than sense

Journeyman Geek

>_>

I have a beard!

me too, hence the second point

Journeyman Geek

(Hell, its a defining feature of schnauzers ;p)

@PaulVargas share as it is as old as me :)

2:30 PM

SteamOS!!! ;)

Journeyman Geek

I actually have much more fanboyism for my hardware than my software

(my periphrals are mostly razer, dell for monitors, cosair for cases...)

reddit.com/r/programming/comments/54jsok/…

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill funny thing is I heard the opposite arguements about SF

tricky thing is keeping your most valuble contributors (who love a challenge) while attracting newbies

> I think it's also rather hostile and hard to new contributors. And lot of people at the top coast on reputation gained from easy things, which are now very hard to attain.

agree with that

i need to reboot

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi heh, vaguely true, I suppose

2:33 PM

i think our "IT director" has fucked about with group policy again and all my mapped drives have vanished and outlook is throwing crazy errors

@PaulVargas Windows + Kali while pentesting/showing off

brb

@DavidPostill I... prefer the other SE sites over SO

I started my prod deploy and launchpad goes down :(

"StackOverflow's moderators are intolerable, to say the least. Power hungry, self centered, and narcissistic."

Journeyman Geek

2:36 PM

@Rahul2001 so do I!

@DavidPostill that's just ... clickbaityness

@Rahul2001 There are a lot of great people on SO, but there are definitely some less-than-nice ones as well :/

Journeyman Geek

Being a mod is a pain in the ass

and all you get is a T-shirt. Well two

@DavidPostill karmafarming101: post the link to reddit. Post the reddit link to Meta. reap imaginary points in both'

@Sathya lol

Journeyman Geek

lol

(SE confessions. I want 10K on MSE so if someone complains about me as a mod, I can at least see what it was if it gets downvoted to kingdom come and deleted before I am even aware of it)

2:38 PM

I'm pretty sure there's a lot of really interesting stuff on MSE that's been deleted

Journeyman Geek

@BenN I've had one or two specific complaints about me

@BenN Yep... I suppose all the super noob questions have made them start hating anyone who has little/no experience

@JourneymanGeek I strived for 10k just to see all the downvoted stuff lol

Journeyman Geek

Usually someone's like "hey, someone's complaining about you"

and ... I miss it

@Sathya pretty much!

happy to have it :D

Journeyman Geek

2:41 PM

Finding them again would be hard

I once went to ask a question on the PHP room... I had an issue and this guy asks me to use GET instead of POST or something like that. I ask if there is a particular advantage, and this other high-rep user attacks me for going off the topic

Journeyman Geek

(Unless I knew about it, like meta.stackexchange.com/a/183845/135565 )

I literally apologized and ran off

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 I strongly discourage asking questions on chat. gently

Its one of the things I hated the most about tech IRC chatrooms ;p

@JourneymanGeek Exactly. It was actually about good/bad practices, so not on-topic on the site, but whatever. Kindness never hurts

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

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@Rahul2001 amusingly, I find the arguments over why something is better than something else here the best part of chat here ;p

"arguements"

Podcast #88 - All About Documentation, Mostly

Kaitlin Pike on September 26, 2016

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CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

3:27 PM

what is happening here?

That Brazilian Headless Horse

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Madness! Chaos! Cucumbers!

2

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

hey you pinged me multiple times!

you must like my attention. thank you for your interest

That Brazilian Headless Horse

I forgot it re-pings you when I edit a message, sorry about that.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh no you didn't :P

not after the fourth time at least

The following trust levels are available on your system:
0x20000 (Basic User)

That Brazilian Headless Horse

75% is still a majority :P

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

3:35 PM

I am not basic

That Brazilian Headless Horse

You can fix this easily by drinking ammoniac.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

sounds deadly. I will not attempt in this life time.

That Brazilian Headless Horse

You'll be dead, and much less acidic than before

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I am not acidic I am basic!

That Brazilian Headless Horse

2 mins ago, by CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I am not basic

You are confused.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

3:39 PM

those words are located at two unique memory locations and the programmer did not accidently define the same thing twice.

are you less confused about my confusion?

we lost draco. I dont think he can keep up with our high-level processing

3:56 PM

well my quick reboot didn't go quickly... stupid anniversary updates >:(

@JourneymanGeek lol

@Me. I am amphoteric!!

also my email is still broken

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Burgi did you hit the reset button to jump start your machine into the reboot?

guys do you recommend visual studio

I love VS

no to both of those

VS is such a huge bloated IDE

only really good if you are doing .NET development

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

3:59 PM

is it malware that is going to find all my projects on my computer and share them with microsoft

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Uh... nope

no

wait a minute, when did @BenN become a mod?

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CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I'm wanting to develop my first c++ program using a GUI (simple window using windows API)

@Burgi On AI.SE about a week ago

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

It looks like you're trying to develop your first c++ program using a GUI (simple window using windows API) .

Would you like help?

4:00 PM

@BenN Congrats, btw

Thanks!

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yes thank you for representing us Ben :)

congrats @BenN

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh windows forms is only for C# ?

do I have to use something called MFC for c++ ?

well the black theme of visual studio looks attractive hehe

lets try out this bloatware. I hope it uninstalls as well as it installs

SETUP REQUIRES 8GB OMG POOR SSD YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A BLOW BUDDY

@BenN Do you recommend any particular resources for learning C++/#

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

4:06 PM

C++ ultimate noob spoonfeed

Hmm, I can't recall any tutorial that I really like for C#

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I'm not interested in C# because it's .NET right? so it runs in a VM on bytecode?

Wait, Jon Skeet might have written a book for C# beginners, let me check

I only see C# In Depth :/ One possible strategy is to look through some open-source projects and see how they work inside

@BenN Do you know if the Microsoft courses on EdX are any good?

That Brazilian Guy

@Rahul2001 Do you recommend any particular resources for learning PowerShDONTASKDONTASKDONTASK

4:09 PM

I hear very good things about EdX but I have never personally tried it

Did someone say PowerShell?

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CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

thanks though

powershell is cool it can host malware

@Rahul2001 There are some great ones on MVA

let me find the link

mva.microsoft.com/en-US/training-courses/…

i did that course

@Burgi FOr not-so-experienced programmers?

i like Bob's presenting style

yeah its really good

ah they have updated it: mva.microsoft.com/en-US/training-courses/…

all the courses on there are free

the only issue with Bob's courses are i tend to drift off and stare at his binary clock

also you need to be aware of: stackoverflow.com/questions/32120895/…

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

interesting, you can use c sharp to make native applications now

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn584397%28v=vs.110%29.aspx

4:21 PM

I tried rickroll WiFi in school today... The results were highly antertaining

This has to be the best use of batch files ever.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

your laptop's network card can be used as an AP>

?

Yep

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

nice hehe

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere rahul2001.com/weblog/2016/09/rickroll-wifi

To improve video quality, you may need to install Microsoft's media feature pack.

I guess it not working counts as poor video quality.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

4:29 PM

haha

are you staring at a black or fuzzy screen hennes?

that is some horrible quality indeed

@Rahul2001 that only really works if the SSID refresh rate is at the same pace as the song

@Burgi You can easily edit it :)

But depends on the PCs searching for the network, and their position and refresh rates

I am staring at thing like this:

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But I ran into it on multiple sites,

E.g. also on twitter.

Youtube still works though.

I probably should uninstall the win10 anv. update to get things working again.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

you can uninstall windows 10 updates even if it changes your startmenu or something?

Does anyone know exactly hot bat2exe programs work? GOogle isn't really helping me right now

4:36 PM

NO idea. How did a win10 start menu look like?
(I dumped everything in shortcut on the desktop when I moved from win7 to win10 so I could avoid the broken new start menu's

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh I knew this! but I forgot :(

I think one method was making a sfx and loading the bat in there.

maybe another was compiling a program that calls the batch code

@Rahul2001 are you trying to hide your code?

there's a way to launch a batch script from memory instead of disk

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I use it sometimes when I don't want other students/teachers to tamper with my code

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

which one do you use

http://superuser.com/questions/tagged/antec

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

wow Microsoft is so charitable. only 5 bucks

LIMITATION ON AND EXCLUSION OF REMEDIES AND DAMAGES. YOU CAN RECOVER FROM MICROSOFT AND ITS SUPPLIERS ONLY DIRECT DAMAGES UP TO U.S. $5.00. YOU CANNOT RECOVER ANY OTHER DAMAGES, INCLUDING CONSEQUENTIAL, LOST PROFITS, SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES.

4:45 PM

To bad for them that it something like that seems unfair cancels the whole section.

At least over here in NL

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere f2ko.de

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh so it's an unknown method?

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Yeah, well, I don't know how it "compiles" the bat to an exe...

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

NOOOOOOOOOOO visual studio is installing .NET developer packages SCREW YOU HURTING MY SDD EVEN THOUGH IM GOING TO UNINSTALL THE .NET AFTER

ohhh nevermind

what did I think to myself?

You probably thought you were very happy to install it in a VM ?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

4:56 PM

wow @Hennes you're #16 on SU !!

Huh?

I did not knew we could see info like that. Then again, I never looked.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I was happy? it's not installing on a vm

stackexchange.com/leagues/3/alltime/superuser

David Postill and JourneyManGeek are up there with you :)

But but. VS is always installed in a VM. That saves you from having to reinstall the OS!
(At least according to someone who works with VS and to whose complains in VS I have to listen).

That is a list of mostly familiar names...

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

WHAT

no worries Im planning on upgrading to ultimate some time

but the installer is like install complete restart to use visual studio OK what did you do to my computer that requires a restart?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

5:23 PM

take a look at this malware Visual studio tried running on my computer

Run on boot
ct!!DF01AE72894A4B7CAA8EB604C1F35C13 - "%temp%\vs_community_ENU.exe" /launchurl "http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=624682&clcid=0x409&campaign=ct!!DF018EB604C1F13"

Task Scheduler
vsixautoupdate.exe

Service
VSStandardCollectorService140 - Visual Studio Data Collection Service. When running, this service collects real-time ETW events and processes them. (no thanks)
Te.Service - Wex. services - %programfiles(x86)%\Windows Kits\8.1\Testing\Runtimes\TAEF
fussvc - Windows App Certification Kit Fast User Switching Utility Service - "%programfiles(x86)%\Windows Kits\8.1\App Certi…

HA "a reboot is pending please reboot before starting visual studio" I will not reboot.

That Brazilian Guy

@Hennes Don't let Trump know you visit Al Jazeera!

Maybe I should ask Trump to nuke Washington

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Query open look at that visual studio is already scrubbing through my files

Common Files\microsoft shared\Office10\CTRYINFO.TXT

LAst time I checked 22% of his supporters thought that eh might start a nuclear war.

In the case of the US I hope that would be an civil war. Just so that noone else joins in with more nukes.

That Brazilian Guy

@Hennes How do you get Trump to bomb Buenos Aires? You tell him there are terrorists in the capital of Brazil.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

5:30 PM

I'm going to have to make a visual studio support thread saying I get that message and I already rebooted 5 times

The things we joke about. But I am not 100% sure either. :(

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I FOUND IT

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\VisualStudio\14.0\Setup\vs\community\CurrenOperation
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\VisualStudio\14.0\Setup\vs\community\IsRebootInProgress

Urgh hur hur hur MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yessssssssssssss ha. By deleting the IsRebootPending key I've managed to fool visual studio into thinking I rebooted

in your face reboot is necessary!

We are preparing for first use. Thank you Microsoft.

wow it ate 12GB of SSD space

!!get

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

!!get 134574

ChatBot John Cavil

5:45 PM

@allquicatic That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

!!info get

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic Command get does not exist.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@JourneymanGeek I see a top tag of yours is hard drive with
Score 684
Posts 287

. How does the recent shift from hard drives to SSDs affect your score income on super user? Have you migrated with the herd to SSDs and provide as fruitiful support as you did with hard drives?

That Brazilian Guy

!!info post

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy Command post does not exist.

That Brazilian Guy

5:46 PM

!!info info

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy Command info, created by God

That Brazilian Guy

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6:28 PM

yey broke 800

@djsmiley2k ?

rep

:D

oh, nice

teehee it's terrible but alas it's going in teh right direction

I may not be able to come online that often anymore

Going through some very terrible times

6:40 PM

oh that sucks

you wanna talk about it

?

(like, privately?)

@Rahul2001 Good luck dude! We'll be thinking/praying for you.

Damn this Win10 cumulative update is SLOOOOOW... on a Broadwell MBP with a 512GB NVMe SSD.... I feel bad for people with like a 2 GB Win10 tablet who won't be able to use their device for a week

It is windows 7 compatible!

(As in, win7 update on a Skylake with 512GB NVMe SSD takes about 8 hours)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

any comments on my install preferences?

because I love attention

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