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Mokubai

7:00 PM

@Burgi Hey, variety is the spice of life and all that...

Rahul2001

@Burgi lol

Mokubai

When Troggy was a mod I always heard Trogdor the Burninator whenever I saw his name....

Original Trogdor Video

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(song towards the end)

Oh man I feel old now, that was uploaded in 2007, which means it was probably actually made like 10 years ago

djsmiley2k

7:19 PM

That moment when you realise there's a lamp growing out of your back.

2

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Burgi

hmmm.... i just made a win10 usb key and i can't boot off it

djsmiley2k

remake it :/

Time for me to write a script to check file ages in a directory on linux. Why? Because none of the preshared ones seem to be right XD

Burgi

ah no its working now

allquixotic

:O I got libvirt to work!!! :D

djsmiley2k

\o/

hmmmmm

trying to figure out how to use case statement in bash, for when handling multiple variables from the user

so they can pass -w, -c, or both (with values)

That Brazilian Guy

7:31 PM

@Mokubai Hey strongbad, how do you type with your boxing gloves on?

Guitar Shoe Dave

i used to freaking love that comic

Mokubai

Strongbad was awesome :)

Guitar Shoe Dave

The System Is Down- Strongbad

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ah darn thats not the comic version

Burgi

this is really odd

asus eeeeebook

it won't boot off the USB even though it is set to do so

pendrive works in all other machines

and is FAT32

any suggestions?

djsmiley2k

@Burgi oh gave up on mine

it just kinda 'died' one day and stopped booting from anything

7:36 PM

@Burgi Don't eat yellow snow.

But do if you want, it's only a suggestion...

djsmiley2k

./myScript.sh -w 1 -c 2

how do I capture the values :(

Burgi

any suggestions regarding crazy non-bootable eeee books?

djsmiley2k

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Q: How do I parse command line arguments in bash?

Say, I have a script that gets called with this line: ./myscript -vfd ./foo/bar/someFile -o /fizz/someOtherFile or this one: ./myscript -v -f -d -o /fizz/someOtherFile ./foo/bar/someFile What's the accepted way of parsing this such that in each case (or some combination of the two) $v, $f,...

Ahha!

@Burgi give up? :<

they old now, and generally very rubbishy :/

Burgi

this is just over 12 months old

djsmiley2k

7:41 PM

huh they still making them then? :/

Bios update maybe.

Mokubai

@Burgi craftedflash.com/howto-video/…

Burgi

hmmm...

nope

electronbeam

I'm trying to come up with a place to fly tonight

djsmiley2k

@electronbeam you doing a runner?

electronbeam

A runner?

oh, let me rephrase to avoid confusion.... I'm trying to find a place to fly my drone tonight.

Guitar Shoe Dave

7:54 PM

parking garage

electronbeam

hmmmm... I'm not flying a racer though, so that's probably not going to be so fun

I really need to dump some money into a racer

djsmiley2k

Ah right

heh wish I had a drone

Guitar Shoe Dave

:)

djsmiley2k

wish I had funds tbh :/

electronbeam

I have a few

djsmiley2k

7:55 PM

The things I could get upto with a pile of money :O

electronbeam

Flying the Phantom 3 Pro tonight :)

Burgi

ah ha!

the laptop is 64bit but the bios/uefi only has a 32bit bootloader

Guitar Shoe Dave

EFI system partitions are FAT32

hehe

Burgi

well it won't boot off the 64bit win10 usb but boots off the 32bit linux one

Guitar Shoe Dave

freeking odd never had that issue.

Then again, i keep secure boot turned off.

Burgi

8:00 PM

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A: USB does not boot when trying to install Linux on my Asus EeeBook X205TA

I looked up your processor and it is actually a 64-bit processor. The thing with these smaller netbooks that have a intel baytrail is that they often have 64-bit processors but 32-bit UEFI firmware. Basically you need a 64-bit Linux distro with a 32-bit bootloader for it to work because as far as...

djsmiley2k

....wtf. D:

Burgi

because asus

Mokubai

@Burgi That's a bit pants on head....

Burgi

my diagnosis or asus?

allquixotic

Yes

Mokubai

8:08 PM

Asus

Burgi

i wonder if they get some sort of tax rebate for putting more expensive 64bit processors in machines they sell with 32bit OS?

allquixotic

@Burgi no, it's just hard to find processors that don't support AMD64 that are modern and in active production, and old CPUs out of production are more expensive than ones that are currently in production

and it's not a 32-bit OS; it's that they have 32-bit UEFI

you can run 64-bit Windows or Linux on them fine, but the bootloader has to be a 32-bit UEFI program

though they often sell with 32-bit Windows because 2 GB of RAM isn't enough to really take advantage of the main advantages of a 64-bit architecture

and can actually use slightly more RAM due to double pointer sizes

Burgi

well i'm sick of the sight of the infernal machine

Mokubai

I'm pretty sure that 64-bit processors predate the widespread use of UEFI, which makes me wonder about the sanity of the people who thought that limiting it to a 32-bit bootloader was a good idea

Burgi

i'm just going to put win 10 32 on it and hand it back to its owner

Mokubai

8:13 PM

You work in a shop?

Burgi

no, this is a friend's machine

he gave it to one of his staff to upgrade it and they fucked it royally

allquixotic

@Mokubai aside from 1 - 2 GB RAM Bay Trail tablets and such, the last devices to use 32-bit UEFI were old, early-generation Intel Macs

Ben N

Disk2vhd is a super easy way to back up a machine before doing bad things to it

Restoring is a little tricky, but doable

Alternatively, get an actual imager

Burgi

it was handed to me in a post-fudged way

djsmiley2k

dafaq

in my script, I echo the variable, and pass it to wc -l externally via a pipe

output = 1

I execute wc -l on the variable within the script, output = 3

allquixotic

8:20 PM

@Mokubai as with many things in technology, I think history can tell us the answer as to why it happened... it's less of a conscious decision and more of a factor of laziness / risk-aversion / unwillingness to invest in cost

it's easy to see why... when Intel first started out releasing sub-laptop-scale tiny Intel CPUs, in Atom, many/most of them were 32-bit only

Mokubai

on using a 64-bit OS on 32-bit UEFI:

> Having looked into what it'd take to implement it in Linux, I decided that hammering rusty nails through my feet would be a preferable use of time. Thankfully, I went drinking instead.

allquixotic

but they wanted to support UEFI on those chips, so the firmware developers started making 32-bit UEFI firmwares

then a new generation of those chips came out that did support 64-bit instruction sets, but they didn't want to replace their old, 100% working just fine, 32-bit UEFI

djsmiley2k

echo ${FILES}

echo $(wc -l ${FILES})

allquixotic

so then of course they started shipping 32-bit UEFI firmwares with 64-bit processors, even though the "full-scale" CPU designs and motherboards had been using 64-bit procs and 64-bit UEFI since at least Sandy Bridge

djsmiley2k

these, y u no make sense D:

Burgi

8:23 PM

@Mokubai LOL sounds like a good plan!

Mokubai

@Burgi I think the whole country could do with a pint or two at the moment, maybe a few sedatives as well

Burgi

yeah, i forgot you were UK based

Mokubai

@allquixotic I can completely believe that laziness plays a major factor in it, as it does in most endeavours...

@Burgi Aye :)

The news is just a complete car crash in slow motion

Burgi

i tried to get drunk on saturday but everyone was utterly depressed

too depressed to drink properly is bad

Mokubai

Definitely. When you look at that nice frosty bottle of Old Peculier in the fridge and you just sigh at it and grab the can of Pepsi instead...

Burgi

8:34 PM

my mother keeps trying to convince me she made the right decision in voting out...

DavidPostill

@Burgi Another reason to sell her ... :)

Burgi

the pound is in freefall. two major banks have ceased trading stocks. the PM has quit. the opposition leader is totally ineffective.

Mokubai

Right or Wrong doesn't matter now, we can either bitch and moan or we can just get on with things. The people in power screwed up by not anticipating or at least vaguely preparing for it so it's up to people to put it back together again now.

Burgi

things are going well

Mokubai

I didn't want us out, but there's not much we can do about it now.

Burgi

8:38 PM

oh and the leader of the leave campaign has come out and said they made up most of the "facts" they presented to the public

DavidPostill

@Burgi No surprises there then. Politicians tell more lies than Pinochio.

Mokubai

9:08 PM

Special...

Tuesday's Metro via @ChrisCowley4 Brexit: Day of farce #Tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers https://t.co/SSH5qp6WDE

Tweeted by suttonnick on June 27, 2016 at 8:58 PM

bwDraco

Bought a paper copy of the WSJ locally, hopefully to better understand the implications of Brexit and to stay current on financial news.

Guitar Shoe Dave

just read zerohedge.com

thats all you need

zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/something-just-snapped-vix

Michael Frank

Unfortunately she is my wife now, and thus I will no longer be questioning her authority. — Michael Frank Jan 4 '14 at 4:03

Should probably have put this as ---un---fortunately.... Oh well.

Guitar Shoe Dave

@bwDraco: Just dont lose sleep reading it @ night k?

bwDraco

9:23 PM

lol

Guitar Shoe Dave

;)

The world is in a lot of hurt right now, and brexit just made it hurt more .. its eventually going to all come crashing down.

Michael Frank

My brother in law reads ZeroHedge. But I've never understood what it's supposed to be about.

Burgi

wow this netbook is slooooooow

bwDraco

9:40 PM

@Burgi Model?

Burgi

asus eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebook x205ta

bwDraco

Atom Z3735F, 4C/4T Silvermont (Bay Trail) @ 1.33-1.83 GHz. Ouch.

Michael Frank

lol does Ramhound type these things out on his phone without looking and just hope that autocorrect works it's magic?

A compiled is computer software, how you a compiler works, is a question that is on topic here. — Ramhound Jun 20 at 11:31

bwDraco

These sorts of machines are more often than not CPU-bound.

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank lol. I think so yes. Have seen those kinds of speeling mistooks before from Ramhound

Burgi

9:46 PM

i've been trying to type the new username in for about 5 minutes

bwDraco

That's even slower per core than JMG's HP Stream 11 (Celeron N2840, 2C/2T Silvermont (Bay Trail) @ 2.16-2.58 GHz). Your system has more cores, but each core is very, very slow, strongly preferring efficiency over performance.

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill I feel like English may not be his first language, either. shrug Anyways... how about that quality English football team? ;)

Burgi

@MichaelFrank i think he is east coast america

@bwDraco its not mine

Michael Frank

@bwDraco I have two of these that still work: asus.com/support/Download/30/17/0/15/h6SPd3tEzLEsrEiS/17

The original Asus EEEPC.

Burgi

my celeron eeeee pc from 2009 runs rings around this!

bwDraco

9:49 PM

Those machines used hard drives but the CPUs were slow to the point where an SSD does not help much.

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank What's football? :)

Michael Frank

Ha, must be in the denial stage. :P

Burgi

@bwDraco i have an eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee pc 904HD

its a lovely little laptop

but this new one is terrible

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank I don't like football and have never watched it (apart from an occasional World Cup match). Rugby Union on the other hand ...

bwDraco

What's your primary or high-power machine equipped with?

Burgi

9:53 PM

my desktop?

bwDraco

Yeah.

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill Well then, good on the English for sticking it to the Australians!

bwDraco

My main laptop is equipped with a Core i7-4800MQ (4C/8T Haswell-MB @ 2.7-3.7 GHz).

Burgi

1 sec, @bwDraco

bwDraco

If you're willing to pay $1750 for a CPU (these chips are very, very expensive to make), there's the i7-6950X Extreme Edition (10C/20T Broadwell-E @ 3.0-3.5+ GHz).

Jun 19 at 6:03, by bwDraco

Extremely large dies on cutting-edge process technology are incredibly expensive to make.

Burgi

9:57 PM

 1 x Intel Core i5-4590 3.30GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail  @ 143.99GBP
 1 x Gigabyte H97-HD3 Intel H97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard  @ 68.36GBP
 1 x Crucial Ballistix BLS2C8G3D18ADS3CEU Sport XT 16GB 1866MHz 240 Pin DIMM DDR3 Memory Module  @ 121.19GBP
 1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 280X Dual-X OC AMD Graphics Card - 3GB  @ 200.59GBP
 1 x Pioneer DVR-221LBK 24x Internal DVD/CD Burner inc LabelFlash Technology  @ 12.71GBP
 1 x Fractal Design Define XL R2 Computer Case (Black Pearl)  @ 90.44GBP

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank We still need a few more wins. It is AU 25 - UK 21 in all matches ever played (since 1909) ;)

bwDraco

...especially if fully enabled (10 of 10 cores on the Broadwell-EP LCC die, as used in the i7-6950X).

Hmm. 4C/4T Haswell-DT @ 3.3-3.7 GHz. Not bad.

Looks like a good mainstream-class gaming rig.

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill Still, a fairly comprehensive series win away is always a good thing.

Burgi

i went with bang 4 buck and availability

DavidPostill

Yep. :p

Burgi

9:58 PM

i could have waited 2 weeks for an i7

or i could have the i5 immediately

the i7 was about 300 GBP

Michael Frank

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Q: What is the total storage for this server? Is it an external or internal?

Please help to understand!!!! H/W path Device Class Description ======================================================== system Computer - /0 bus Motherboard /0/0 memory 141GiB System memory /0/1 processor Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5645 @ 2.40GHz /0/2 - processor Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5645 @ 2.40...

external-hard-drive hardware-rec hardware-combination

interesting question...

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank Really? It looks like a mess to me.

Is he asking what the current storage is? Or the total possible storage?

Ben N

I think "interesting question" was satire

Michael Frank

@BenN Yep

Ben N

Bizarrely, it has the hardware-rec tag, but I don't think it's asking for such a recommendation?

Michael Frank

10:11 PM

I assume he's trying to work out the entire amount of storage this "thing" has. There are a few GB and GiB values in the question text. But maybe he can't tell if they are partitions or drives.

Burgi

well installing the chipset drivers have mostly solved the speed issues

more importantly the keyboard has started working

allquixotic

oh come on, it's not that hard

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A: What is the total storage for this server? Is it an external or internal?

generic P410i /0/100/1/0/0.0.0 /dev/sda disk 299GB /dev/sdb disk - 200GB /dev/sdc disk 15GB SCSI Disk Add it up... 299 + 200 + 15 = 514 GB. Across three separate (apparently) storage devices. From the info you've provided, it's impossible to know: Where the disks are located Wh...

just give him his answer, close the question and move on... stupid HVs

Michael Frank

10:27 PM

heh, enjoy your upvotes I guess.

Burgi

GAH!

i can't even flag spam :(

Bob

11:19 PM

@allquixotic what was it?

allquixotic

@Bob libvirt-bin from 1.3.1 had some files hanging around that 1.3.5 (libvirt-daemon, in a PPA) didn't like

1.3.5 worked after I purged 1.3.1

bwDraco

Spam: superuser.com/questions/39044/…

Journeyman Geek

11:43 PM

woof

Bob

@allquixotic ah

Ben N

I may have just produced the most geeky YouTube series ever: voiceovers of doing SE reviews

Michael Frank

@BenN "SHIT" "SHIT" "WTF IS THIS?" "DOWNVOTE" "UNCLEAR" "OMG GIT GUD" "Upvote" "LOL CAN'T TRICK ME AUDIT SYSTEM"

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Hmm... As destructive as it could be, I wonder if we can trick Twitch.TV into reducing the First Post and Close Vote queues by creating a Twitch Plays SE channel...

Journeyman Geek

11:59 PM

So, just like elections in florida?

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