Root Access

I was looking into things like citrix (we use it already) but I'm not sure about the "Virtual Desktop" - does it use a PC (when they log in using Citrix - that PC becomes available) or is it a completely separate thing that we set up, controlling what they can/can't see and what they can/can't access?

@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure. New to this. I want to know what you can and can't do

Journeyman Geek

IIRC citrix is essentially a terminal server

Ben

Oh wow... you have the paper clip

That's... kinda cool :P

Journeyman Geek

You have a server running everything, with multiple users on it, and you manage stuff there.

(so, this is a third option ;p)

So software runs on the server, data is streamed to your system.

Ben

@JourneymanGeek Ok... so that means if one user is logged onto that PC, other's can't access it?

Journeyman Geek

Not something I've played with ;p

@Ben: IIRC you stream one program

and the one user at a time thing is a consumer OS affection. You can log in multiple users at once on windows server.

Ben

12:48 AM

@JourneymanGeek ...can that program be the whole os?

Cos that is what we have set up with one client (we can access their os)

Journeyman Geek

@Ben in theory

Ben

Ok...

Journeyman Geek

That's essentially a thin client tho (if its on a server) or you've just set up remote access

that's trivial though.

Whole system access remotely is a fairly well understood, simple problem

Ben

@JourneymanGeek but you're suggesting we can restrict it to access only one program

I.e., they remote in, and can only use MS Word.

If they close word, the connection closes

Journeyman Geek

@Ben there's programs that would allow you to do that yes.

Ben

12:51 AM

Ok... that's cool.

Journeyman Geek

The idea though is that you have one, standard setup of MS word, appropriate licences and you don't need to install it per system

I'm seriously abstracting, details may vary.

Ben

Yeah... licences do come into play here...

Say we have 3 licenses... 2 are using it in office, and we have one remote access

Noone else can use it until someone closes the program. Correct?

Including the remote access client

Journeyman Geek

Depends on how the licences are handled. (so no idea)

Ben

Well, all 3 are active...

we can "lock" licences, allowing only certain users to have permanent access.

Ben

1:17 AM

Ok... I'll try and clarify the situation so you can get a better understanding (if possible)

What we want to do is set up a pc on a client site that has access to a program. It is not connected to their network, it only has a connection to our network via wifi.

Nevermind... ditch that for now haha. If something comes up I shall return

qasdfdsaq

1:42 AM

So I hear it's monsoon season in Singapore

Journeyman Geek

7:21 AM

hackaday.com/2015/11/25/the-5-raspberry-pi-zero I wonder how long before you find a SOC in a cereal (serial?) box ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Do they even do those anymore?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: No idea but the joke had to be made.

Its still ludiciously cheap.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek For what you get, yea. But to actually make it usable for most people would cost a fair bit more, unfortunately.

Journeyman Geek

Of course.

Bob

It's in the territory between "I'm amazed they can sell it that cheap" and "But they left out enough to make it a pain to use most of the time..."

Journeyman Geek

7:37 AM

yuuuup

But it isn't competing with PCs

its pretty handy for microcontroller based stuff you'd use that sorta thing for.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The problem is they're lacking an easy way to get your program onto the thing :S

I suppose you could hook up OTG with an Ethernet adapter...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: the writeup suggests one of the USB ports is for "power and data"

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Hm. MTP?

Would be interesting.

Journeyman Geek

No idea tho.

Bob

Or would you have to power it off to use as mass storage?

Journeyman Geek

7:39 AM

it would if it was!

Oh, the old rpi would run off a normal USB port if you didn't try to hook up anything too heavy

and that would be rad.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Not talking about power requirements. More that you can't really hook it up as mass storage while the OS is running.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: ahh

tho I've never seen anything do target mode before outside macs.

Which is what you're talking about.

Bob

Options I can see are: it functions as a USB/cardreader while powered off, or the RPi OS would need to support acting as a MTP device or be able to mount some other partition as mass storage.

Dunno if there's some other USB protocol more suitable.

MTP is the de facto standard for phones now.

Journeyman Geek

Also, the rpi they are hosting their site off caught fire I think.

Yup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek O_O

Journeyman Geek

7:42 AM

(The site is bucking under load. Joking about the Rpi foundation running their site off a pi)

Bob

Still, my point remains: it'd be a bit painful to actually get your programs onto the thing.

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Bob

Still easier to write programs targeting this rather than some other board, since you have a familiar OS to fall back on. But the drawback is it also uses more power.

Journeyman Geek

But there's microcontrollers at that price range that would do wifi

won't be a stretch to build something that also does wifi in 2-3 years.

Bob

Hm. Maybe.

Wait, if it's using the same SoC as the Model A but clocked higher - does that mean it also uses more power?

Journeyman Geek

7:45 AM

It seems possible.

There's quite literally no information about it.

hm

@Bob: looks like one power only port, and one 'data' port

so yeah, no built in networkyness, ala the model A

hm. It is a cut down, OCed model A

Bob

> one for power and data, another for USB OTG

?

It's the power and data part that gets confusing.

Journeyman Geek

The board has one labeled power in, one data

Bob

Ah.

I was just reading the hackaday you linked, not the RPi blog post :P

Journeyman Geek

No you arn't

the RPI website is down ;p

Bob

8:16 AM

Hm. What are the two pins labelled "run"?

Journeyman Geek

No idea ;p

Reset switch

raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=82963

Bob

8:30 AM

@JourneymanGeek Huh. I thought it was something new :P

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek doesnt look like a Pepperoni PIzza

Bob

Turns out it was just labelled P6 on my one.

Boris_yo

Anyone heard about Backpack?

https://backpackbang.com

Tourists bringing stuff from US to 2nd, 3rd world countries?

I wonder who would be willing to travel these days when 3rd world war is kindling...

techcrunch.com/2014/08/13/…

HackToHell

Damn the specs are even okay for 5%

We are mass producing so much SoCs these days

Journeyman Geek

Yup

allquixotic

8:42 AM

we can't solve world hunger, we can't cure cancer, we can't stop wars, we can't figure out how to live without stripping the planet of resources.... but we CAN flood the market with good quality general purpose computers for $5 :|

3

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic baby steps? ;p

If you think about it, they're all optimisation problems

We can grow enough food, getting where its needed without destroying the global economy is the tricky bit.

(also, I have a sprained ankle jumping a low hedge to take a photo ._.)

HackToHell

I think all the hurdles are political for ending huger and war

we have the tech

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell war is about the only problem that isn't an optimisation problem ;p

(you'll need to to click on it to see the kitty)

@HackToHell hunger is a a matter of transport, and handling the economics of it. War is just... messed up.

Especially the current stuff. The war on 'terror' is inherently senseless.

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell You're also into Cordova development, right?

@Dave Please give me an email for the Keybase.io invite

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg Yeah, more of a side project

@JourneymanGeek War is all politics

Just some smart people playing powerless ones

Journeyman Geek

8:55 AM

@HackToHell politics is inherently senseless unless you're on the top ;)

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell Maybe you have some idea with this one:

1

Q: WP8.1 Inputpane (Keyboard) pushes/shifts cordovaView/Html content

I encountered a very strange behaviour in my ionic/cordova app on the windows phone 8.1 platform, where i implemented an instant messenger. I teared my whole application down to a simple cordova (starter) application to eliminate potential side effects with other app related code like other css ...

It's been bugging us for quite some time :(

Bob

@OliverSalzburg "us" So that's your coworker? :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Right

He took over most of the mobile development, I mostly work on "the core" now

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg No idea :S

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell Thanks for taking a look anyway

HackToHell

9:06 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah it sucks

Leathe

so somehow the div thinks its new position is its original position

Psycogeek

10:54 AM

meta.superuser.com/questions/10978/…

looks like fun, because "out of context" snag of a tiny portion of the TOU, kinda misses the IMO "openness" intended by youtube. therefor the comment does not belong.

Section 6-C for example

For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your Content. However, by submitting Content to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the Content in connection with the Service and YouTube's (and its successors' and affiliates') business, including without limitation . . .

including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the Service a non-exclusive license to access your Content through the Service, and to use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform such Content as permitted through the functionality of the Service and under these Terms of Service

AKA given enough lawyers and variations in court systems, it says "put your own IP up on YouTube and you lost all your rights" :-)

Short Version "You also hereby grant each user of the Service a non-exclusive license to . . . use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform

Psycogeek

11:43 AM

superuser.com/questions/1005690/… is the original question. I forgot that it isnt in the meta

Nate Kerkhofs

"Your responsibilities are... Debugging production code..." slowly backs away

qasdfdsaq

Mortarboard Earn at least 200 reputation (the daily maximum) in a single day.

Ironic how I got that on a site I've only ever answered one question on (GD) but not even got close on the site where I'm active 99.9% of the time (SU)

@allquixotic To be fair, they can't do that either.

They're already out of stock at all UK stockists. So market not flooded. Rather droughty right now actually :-P

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