Root Access

4:01 PM

yea that'll fix it. they are so confused about the error at MS , looking at the dism log might be better clues

>err 2149842967
# for hex 0xffffffff / decimal -1 :
  NO_TITLE                                                      ftsiface.h
  USE_DEFAULT                                                   ftsiface.h
  JET_wrnNyi                                                    esent98.h
# /* Function Not Yet Implemented */
  LZERROR_BADINHANDLE                                           lzexpand.h
# /* invalid input handle */
  MAPI_DIAG_NO_DIAGNOSTIC                                       mapidefs.h
  MSIDBERROR_FUNCTIONERROR                                      msiquery.h

@HackToHell Take your pick.

Looks like it hides an underlying error, one you'd probably find in CBS.log or so.

@HackToHell If you ran the command I have on mind, DISM can take a long time; it checks all files against an online database and downloads those that mismatch, better to let it run out than to close it. I'm not aware of actual hangs with it...

Sometimes DISM + SFC + some repair attempts can make 8.1 upgrade work; other times, you're better off doing a refresh after which you clean up crapware and then straight to doing all updates

HackToHell

@TomWijsman This install is 2 days old

Tom Wijsman

What kind of install? Empty? Crapware? ...?

HackToHell

Empty !

I installed VS 2013 and JDk

That's pretty much it

Aha

Tom Wijsman

Always update first if you have the chance to. :(

HackToHell

4:10 PM

@TomWijsman Where did you get that info

Tom Wijsman

err.exe

HackToHell

Package "Package_for_KB2919355~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.14" requires Servicing Stack v6.3.9600.17021 but current Servicing Stack is v6.2.9200.16683. [HRESULT = 0x800f0823 - CBS_E_NEW_SERVICING_STACK_REQUIRED]
2014-10-29 21:39:07, Info CBS Failed to initialize internal package [HRESULT = 0x800f0823 - CBS_E_NEW_SERVICING_STACK_REQUIRED]
2014-10-29 21:39:07, Error CBS Failed to create internal package [HRESULT = 0x800f0823 - CBS_E_NEW_SERVICING_STACK_REQUIRED]

allquixotic

what does the Corporate Broadcasting System have to do with this ?

;-)

HackToHell

Now I have to figure out which kb updates the servicing stack

Wait a sec, i downloaded something that did just that

Tom Wijsman

Hmm, how about a rollback using system restore?

(Works better if you let DISM run to the end)

allquixotic

4:13 PM

I need to do some soul searching to understand why DISM isn't in my mental toolbox of things to use

HackToHell

> External EvaluateApplicability, package: Package_for_KB2771431~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.1.3, package applicable State: Installed, highest update applicable state: Superseded, resulting applicable state:Superseded

@TomWijsman I did

Tom Wijsman

support.microsoft.com/kb/2771431

Yeah, you've got that one.

HackToHell

I should perhaps install all the updates from Windows Update before trying to install Windows 8.1

@TomWijsman Is it part of some toolkit ?

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell That's what we do when installing the two required updates doesn't work out.

What I think the KB I linked to does is update to 6.2.9200.16683.

But KB2919355 wants 6.3.9600.17021 as a preparation to Windows 8.1.

So, it probably misses a servicing stack update that does the 6.2.* -> 6.3.* step.

HackToHell

Yeah, can't seem to find the KB that does it though :/

Bob

4:19 PM

I've just spent the last two hours fucking around with printer drivers.

HackToHell

This might be it :D support.microsoft.com/kb/2821895/en-us

Bob

[Window Title]
Add Printer Driver Wizard

[Main Instruction]
Unable to install Adobe PDF Converter, Type 3 - User Mode, x64 driver. Unable to find a core driver package that is required by the printer driver package.

[OK]

:(

HackToHell

That reminds me, I need to get wifi working on my laptop after I update to 8.1

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell If you can't get enough ... support.microsoft.com/kb/2919442 support.microsoft.com/kb/2989647

Bob

<<<  [Exit status: SUCCESS]

???

HackToHell

4:23 PM

@TomWijsman Those are for Windows 8.1

I'm not sure if they will run on Win 8

Tom Wijsman

The ones I linked both mention the 0.17 bit listed as requirement for the update.

Meh, try yours first; you can always try mine later.

Bonus points if you make a system restore point... :P

Psycogeek

@Bob successful exit , at least it did one thing right.

Bob

@Psycogeek It didn't even do that right!

The "SUCCESS" is a lie!

Psycogeek

but it did exit ?

HackToHell

@TomWijsman I already did :D

Tom Wijsman

4:24 PM

# for decimal 1337 / hex 0x539 :
  ERROR_INVALID_SID                                             winerror.h
# for hex 0x1337 / decimal 4919 :
  SQL_4919_severity_16                                          sql_err
# ALTER TABLE SWITCH partition statement failed because the
# index '%.*ls' on the table '%.*ls' participates in a merged
# index.

There appears to be a leet error after all...

Bob

Anyone with a Win7 SP1 x64 system available?

Tom Wijsman

Maybe, maybe not; there's no certainty.

I do, but I have no boot entry available... :-$

Bob

o.O

HackToHell

@Bob I haz x86

Bob

@HackToHell Must be x64 :\

Well, if anyone does, could you upload the file C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\x64\PCC\ntprint*.cab ?

(there will be some other characters after the ntprint - I don't know what they are for Win7)

I'm just trying to find a copy of the default printer drivers I'm mysteriously missing :\

Tom Wijsman

4:32 PM

Yeah, I have that file.

HackToHell

Bleh that doesn't work

Bob

@TomWijsman Any chance you could upload it or otherwise send it to me?

HackToHell

> If you don’t see KB 2919355 in the list of available updates, you might be missing one or more required updates. Follow the previous steps to check for updates, install all important updates, particularly KB 2919442, restart your PC, and then check for KB 2919355 again.

From windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/…

@TomWijsman The page says it's for WIn8.1 but it;s for windows 8

Thank you for linking to it ;p

Tom Wijsman

Nothing is as it seems... :D

HackToHell

> 2014-10-29 22:06:11, Info CBS Appl: Evaluating package applicability for package Package_for_KB2919442~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.8, applicable state: Absent
2014-10-29 22:06:11, Info CBS EvaluateApplicability, package: Package_for_KB2919442~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.8, Package applicability: Absent.

Poker face -_-

Tom Wijsman

4:37 PM

@Bob You're a nice guy.

Bob

@TomWijsman Thanks

HackToHell

WTF is this support.microsoft.com/kb/2871389

Bob

Hm. It's actually a different version form the one I have half of.

Psycogeek

@Bob mine shows | ntprint.inf_amd64_neutral_4616c3de1949be6d.cab | to exist in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\x64\PCC\

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Oops.

Bob

4:39 PM

@Psycogeek ...yea, that's actually the one I have (the files of, not the actual cab)

@TomWijsman's one is e9e71972090faceb

:S

@Psycogeek Could I trouble you to send that?

Might be safer to go with one version for now :P

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Let's try again... :)

Bob

@TomWijsman I really have no idea how this versioning works. Maybe you had a newer one shipped with some other driver, or MS updated yours :S

Tom Wijsman

Wrong partition... :P

Bob

@TomWijsman Or that o.O thanks

@TomWijsman ah, other one was Win8?

Tom Wijsman

ntprint.inf_amd64_e9e71972090faceb.cab is 8(.1) x64, ntprint.inf_amd64_neutral_4616c3de1949be6d.cab is 7 x76, ntprint.inf_x86_e9e71972090faceb.cab is 8(.1) x86.

Bob

4:42 PM

Nope, that wasn't enough :(

I'm all out of ideas

Tom Wijsman

Probably other files as well, which is why SFC / DISM / ... might be helpful to repair your image.

@Bob Before that, check in the Programs and Features whether printer related components are enabled.

Bob

@TomWijsman Well, weird thing is the setup log says it's successful (after copying some files around... whoops?)

@TomWijsman I can install all other printers fine. Just the Adobe one giving me grief :\

I'll take a look anyway

Tom Wijsman

How did you identify it needs the cab?

Bob

@TomWijsman A long and twisted journey...

Tom Wijsman

Process Monitor?

Bob

4:45 PM

>>>  [Import Driver Package - c:\program files (x86)\adobe\acrobat 11.0\acrobat\xtras\adobepdf\adobepdf.inf]
>>>  Section start 2014/10/30 00:17:58.066
      cmd: C:\Windows\syswow64\MsiExec.exe -Embedding 32B1A1244E3FF4311529D79E1843B25C M Global\MSI0000
     sto: Importing driver package into Driver Store:
     sto:      Driver Store   = C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore (Online | 6.1.7601)
     sto:      Driver Package = c:\program files (x86)\adobe\acrobat 11.0\acrobat\xtras\adobepdf\adobepdf.inf

@TomWijsman Driver setup logs

!!!  sto: Driver package references a missing external file 'C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3\PSCRIPT5.DLL'. Error = 0x00000002

From there, it was finding the dll within the ntprint package in the driverstore/filerepository

then comparing with a Win8 system that had the ntprint cab in pcc

also copied the ntprint files into the 3 folder, after which the driver install is reporting success

but the actual add printer dialog throws that error

26 mins ago, by Bob

[Window Title]
Add Printer Driver Wizard

[Main Instruction]
Unable to install Adobe PDF Converter, Type 3 - User Mode, x64 driver. Unable to find a core driver package that is required by the printer driver package.

[OK]

@TomWijsman there would be far too much to filter for, I expect

Tom Wijsman

Those files are in the cab.

Bob

I've probably missed a reg entry or two

Tom Wijsman

So, if you copy it into the other folder; it should find them.

Bob

@TomWijsman yep, I had the extracted version in DriverStore\FileRepository

1 min ago, by Bob

also copied the ntprint files into the 3 folder, after which the driver install is reporting success

I hate manually patching a system together like this

Tom Wijsman

If it still throws and there is no error left, Process Monitor time?

And if you have a system where it works, you can compare logs.

Bob

4:48 PM

@TomWijsman Yea, no idea what to filter for.

Most/all of the driver installation is by system processes

Tom Wijsman

Filter away whatever is not system / driver / install related.

Identify in Process Explorer (or some other Task Manager) what services are in which svchost.exe; that way, you can filter out some of those PIDs too if you take out the ones unrelated to this context.

Bob

:\ worth a shot

Tom Wijsman

Another way to filter it is to first stop as many services as possible. :P

Bob

@TomWijsman probably not the best idea for a printer installation

Tom Wijsman

If you know what you're doing, it could work.

Currently I run ~80 processes; when I need to do something real-time, I turn that down to ~20 processes or so.

Bob

4:54 PM

...I have 147 -_-

oh, forgot to check the event logs

nope, nothing of interest

Tom Wijsman

Sounds like you could kill a 100 processes or so if you want to make the log easier to read. :D

Down to ~70 when I run only what I regularly run.

There's a bit of extra processes due to recent installations, could try to get to ~60 when I get bored.

Bob

I've probably filtered as much as is practical.

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell So, how is it going?!

Bob

@TomWijsman Still 70-odd thousand entries belonging to the print spooler and a possibly-related service

HackToHell

@TomWijsman Didn't work

Bob

4:58 PM

hm, might as well filter the useless reg paths

HackToHell

I am installing all the damn updates

Psycogeek

@HackToHell that seems logical

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell It used to be as easy as installing one or two updates, but I think something about that has changed.

HackToHell

@Psycogeek Bandwidth constraints ;p

Tom Wijsman

One of these days I might try to dig up an automated way to do it. Because we need to do this a few times a day.

HackToHell

4:59 PM

@TomWijsman yeag

Psycogeek

then when you get 8.1 on it will proceed to remove 2/3rds of what you just installed, but at least it will find them to remove em :-)

Tom Wijsman

It is like "update all. reboot. update all. reboot. it pops up in store".

If you know which updates to pick, it is "select X updates. reboot. select Y updates. reboot. it pops up in store" (not sure if two reboots, article seemed to suggest one)

HackToHell

> Although the Windows 8.1 update is downloaded and installed from the Store, your PC needs Windows updates, KB 2871389 and KB 2917499, before Windows 8.1 becomes available to you in the Store.

windows.microsoft.com/en-in/windows-8/…

Tom Wijsman

At least one reboot is needed for the pendingfilemoves afaik.

@HackToHell The comma "," between "updates" and "KB" is tricky to interpret.

Maybe the 8.1 update file itself lists requirements somewhere.

HackToHell

@TomWijsman And i can't find that place :(

Bob

5:06 PM

@TomWijsman Nothing much interesting, just a spoolsv searching though every single (unrelated) driver :\

Canadian Luke

If people don't get offended by certain... stories... Here

Tom Wijsman

@CanadianLuke You can write a Miley song about that story.

Canadian Luke

5:24 PM

@TomWijsman About melted dildos? I don't think so... Gotta use something bigger for her, like a Wrecking Ball

Tom Wijsman

"We Can't Stop" has this "... everywhere" thing.

Bob

I give up.

Maybe tomorrow.

I should say later today; it's 4:30 AM

Tom Wijsman

Maybe you just have to reboot... :P

Canadian Luke

5:51 PM

Verizon to launch their own agenda-based Tech News site

allquixotic

6:20 PM

@CanadianLuke saw that

that'd be the kind of site my dad would end up at

then get brainwashed into spouting nonsense like "we should pay more for our data! they work so hard for us!"

Canadian Luke

6:45 PM

I think news sites should be required to not censor news stories... But of course, that will never happen

Stack Exchange

Stack Exchange Network Status: Data Center Maintenance Sat, Nov 1 2014

posted on October 29, 2014

15:00 UTC (11AM EDT) - 19:00 UTC (3PM EDT)We will be performing maintenance on our core network gear this Saturday. This will involve a period of about 30 minutes where the network will be in read-only mode as we run out of Oregon during the upgrade and reboot.

allquixotic

7:08 PM

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This happened within a 1-hour drive of where I live. I am a space buff and have loved space exploration (or the remnants of it that we still have after the space shuttle program and moon shots ended *sigh*) since I was a kid. My mom worked as a government contractor for NASA and always brought me posters and gadgets from the gift shop on site.

I was out on my deck around 6:45 pm the night before this happened, when the launch had to be scrubbed due to a boat being in the hazard zone, wanting to see the launch.

I cried when I heard news that it had exploded. An enormous setback and great loss of technology. And all the anti-space nuts will come out of the woodwork to say how this is a waste of money, and push the political landscape even more against space exploration and the ISS.

No one died, but the damage is done.

Boris_yo

7:37 PM

@allquixotic Yeah I heard on Russia news today. I think I heard contractor or something that NASA signed agreement with those who supplied modernized technology that was used by Russia before 1940s or so... That's all I remember.

allquixotic

NK-33

The NK-33 and NK-43 are rocket engines designed and built in the late 1960s and early 1970s by the Kuznetsov Design Bureau. The NK designation is derived from the initials of chief designer Nikolay Kuznetsov. They were intended for the ill-fated Soviet N-1 rocket moon shot. The NK-33 engine is among the highest thrust-to-weight ratio of any Earth-launchable rocket engine, second only to the SpaceX Merlin 1D engine, while achieving a very high specific impulse. The NK-43 is similar to the NK-33, but is designed for an upper stage, not a first stage. It has a longer nozzle, optimized for operation...

In short, the engines were designed in the late '60s by Kuznetsov in Russia, then the program for the rocket they were supposed to power was canceled, but someone disobeyed the order to destroy the engines, and put them in a warehouse, where they sat for 30 years before Aerojet imported them and cleaned them up.

Boris_yo

8:00 PM

@allquixotic People write it was crappy NK-33 reverse engineered by Ukrainians and sold to NASA. Why NASA can't afford modernized Russian spacecraft engine?

And how can something be without illuminati today? "Event" + "illuminati" =

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Boris_yo

8:19 PM

@CanadianLuke But why so many?

Canadian Luke

@Boris_yo No clue, it wasn't me

allquixotic

8:34 PM

@Boris_yo It wasn't reverse-engineered. These are the actual, physical NK-33 engines from Russia!

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