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Bob
7:00 AM
and the email.
RoundCube webmail :P
RoundCube is actually pretty damn nice
(presumably IMAP access too)
huh. pgsql too
 
Unlimited forwards, so don't matter that the limit is 3 @ 10GB
 
Bob
...I've had my gmail account since 2007, high activity, nothing deleted, and it's only got some 2.5 GB of emails in it
if you ever hit 10 GB I'd be amazed
actually. that online.net one is so ridiculous I almost want one, despite having no use for it :P
 
I'll have to change my email layout, but it's doable. For now everything funnels into my hosted account. But I can turn that around and use the gmail instead. In '04 had a friend who threatened to "fill" me gmail. She never did :)
 
for me I like https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-cloud#dedicloud
if you want to mess with your server, it's great
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver how much email do you deal with that 10 GB isn't enough? o.O
@satibel ARM though
and the x86 ones cost more than the kimsufi
oh, billed per hour isn't bad :P
 
7:05 AM
It's not the 10GB, it's the 3 accounts. In my case, that's plenty, but for a "going concern" it could be limiting. Of course, that's a "personal" server too.
The only thing that might be limiting is the single database.
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver it's only limiting if you intend to add more people
that's 3 accounts with unlimited aliases
 
@Bob yep, but if you build your own programs, (or use JAVA) you generally don't care it's ARM.
 
Bob
so you can alias everything to your account. it only matters if you need mail going to a diff account for a diff person
@GypsySpellweaver also the slightly upgraded option has a lot more :P online.net/en/hosting/online-pro
one database can have a lot of tables inside
usually doesn't matter as most webapps will happily accept a unique table prefix and coexist with other apps on the same DB
@satibel *shudder* @ java
 
I only use the one account, everything is alias everything off, even the wife's email is aliased to gmail.
 
@Bob I meant that for minecraft though shudder JAVA
 
7:10 AM
@satibel needing to compile stuff on a lower end processor is a pain
 
Well, I gotta do my annual labs in a few hours. Gotta get things ready. Thanks for the links. Don't know how you find things so fast. I'm just not a mutli-tasker. All I can do is glance at it, maybe scan it, and bookmark it for later research.
 
Bob
huh. just saw someone blatantly drive the wrong way down a one way road
@GypsySpellweaver probably some familiarity with the topic :P
also. tab explosions.
 
Sadly not that uncommon. :(
 
I've watched em do that out my front door all the time, and even the cops do nothing. except move to the side so they can pass.
 
Welp, snow
Never mind it was in the mid-teens yesterday
 
Bob
7:15 AM
snow in spring... hmm
 
@JourneymanGeek It takes at most 5 minutes to compile heavy stuff directly on the server, and you can compile locally before uploading it to the server when you are sure it almost works, you could also use python or stuff like that If you don't like compiling I suppose.
@Bob I've generally got 25-100 tabs open at the same time.
 
@satibel but if its arm, you also need a cross compile environment matching the arm device
 
Bob
@satibel pfft. had over 2000 at one point :P
currently at 500+ at work, recently cut down from 500 to 70 at home
 
@Bob there's these things called "book marks"
 
Bookmarks are for people who don't like scrolling through loads of tabs
:P
 
Bob
7:21 AM
@JourneymanGeek I have so many bookmarks I broke ffsync
 
bookmarks are for the weak
 
Although the session manager dealie is quite handy to save entire windows' worth of tabs for reopening
(I know you can bookmark a window of tabs, but that's so... static)
 
@Bob what browser do you use?
firefox semi-crashes at some point around 50
 
Bob
@satibel Firefox 64-bit
ran fine through 200
the 500+ was with most tabs unloaded thanks to restore
 
chrome gobbles up most of my ram at around 60-80
I dunno why, but I need to restart mine every few days when I have more than 50 tabs
 
Bob
7:28 AM
tbf Firefox handles lots (100+) of loaded tabs much better with e10s and minimal add-ons
tabs mix plus kills performance
@satibel how much RAM?
 
8 gigs, but I have some other stuff started.
so I have ~5-6 gigs free
opera was great at handling insane amounts of tabs.
plus tab packing.
 
Bob
eh, 64-bit ff?
I do go 16 GB min these days
32 GB on main desktop
 
I thing so.
I have a mini itx and 2x4g sticks.
they are old though (5-6 years old)
@JourneymanGeek did you mean copy-paste links to notepad ?
 
Bob
@TOWMN Ugh. Optus. Went from 700ms to 40ms ping by ... toggling mobile data.
Wish Sony made it easier to blacklist bands.
 
@satibel or posting them to facebook. Or something
I HAVE NO IDEA
 
7:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek posting www.JourneymanGeekNaked.com to fb oopsie
 
(psst, someone needs to tell him)
Unrelatedly...
I donno if its cause of the election but our review queues have dropped dramatically
Yay
 
@JourneymanGeek please tell me
How do I summon Clippy?
 
Bob
@satibel he's usually naked, the profile pic is an exception
from the time he stole that hat from his human
 
7:55 AM
@Bob o_O
At least Aus seems to have lower latency on average than the UK
Also 3'c and snowing... Ffs
 
8:09 AM
0_0
 
Bob
lotsa stamps
there're more on th back
 
ah yes dangerous things stamps.. tiger snakes, drop bears, royals...
 
Bob
O_O
those were the cable boots
wrapped in a government brochure, supermarket catalogue, lots of tape and a whole bunch of stamps
 
@Bob in my current hostel room I can get my speed to go from 220Mbps to 4Mbps by moving one finger.
I wish mobile networks weren't so stupid. Where's intelligent self organising networks when you need them?
@Bob is that a photo of the British couple in front of an Australian bridge?
 
Bob
Royal Visit 2014 it says :P
and yea that's the Sydney harbour bridge
 
8:24 AM
@Bob RoundCube is awesome!
I've been using it for years
@Burgi you know message edit history is public, right?
 
@Bob 0_0
 
And besides, I'm not sure if that's something favourable.
 
@Bob I was thinking of switching to this at some point mailpile.is
 
Bob
@TOWMN Coming Soon (TM)
@JourneymanGeek eh. I used o365 because I care more about reliability
if my single email server goes down, I'm fucked
 
@Bob Its a semi traditional mail client
 
Bob
8:30 AM
redundancy is expensive
 
I'm currently doing mail off namecheap
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek smells more like a server?
 
Bob
o.o
 
its a local mail client with a webui
 
8:36 AM
Anyway, EXAMS ARE OVER!!!
 
@Bob but making it a full web mail client is in the pipeline
hm. Or running multi instances
which is ugly, but I can live with that
 
@Rahul2001 yes but the ruder, less flag resistant word isn't immediately visible
 
@Burgi uh huh
 
plus you shouldn't know what that word means!
 
Girlfriend's mum came to pick her up early. What is this life :/
@Burgi cough
 
8:50 AM
don't lose your fluffiness
 
I'm a citizen of the internet.
 
Now I'm wondering what @Burgi said ;p
 
MOVE ALONG!
 
That only works on the weak minded
 
morning btw
its quite chilly this morning
5C
 
9:10 AM
classic setup: linux workstation -> windows7 vm -> windows server -> linux vm.
 
does an iframed page register the parent containing page as the referer?
 
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Q: What is the HTTP Referer if the link is clicked in an <iframe>?

bodacydoSuppose I have a webpage located at http://www.website.com with an <iframe> in it. Like this: <html> <head>...</head> <body> ... <iframe src="http://www.washington.edu"> ... </body> </html> Now suppose someone goes to www.website.com and clicks a link in the iframe itself (this link i...

@Burgi that should answer your question.
 
good find
 
!!ddg ninja
 
@satibel That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
9:21 AM
what about on the initial load?
 
> Once you know you’re in an iframe, you can take advantage of a little-known fact: the HTTP Referer header for a page inside of an iframe is always set to the containing page’s URL
 
9:46 AM
@Bob only 15 years late
I was studying this kinda shit in the early noughties ffs
I wonder if Ubiquiti UniFi is supposed to in any way hint at its suitability for use by Unis
 
Bob
@TOWMN Ha, they still taught us this a few years ago
I've forgotten most of it already :(
Nowhere near as much low-level detail as you though
 
> Cisco Systems said that more than 300 models of switches it sells contain a critical vulnerability that allows the CIA to use a simple command to remotely execute malicious code that takes full control of the devices. There currently is no fix.
 
Bob
@TOWMN usually ends up being cisco anyway
 
> US restricts any device larger than a mobile phone on airlines from 13 countries
> HTTPS laggard complains when Firefox warns of insecure login page
> Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard drives loses appeal
Urgh. Even reading the tech news is utterly depressing now
And that was my last refuge from all this Trump-esque shite all over the mainstream news
@Bob yeah, I've never seen any uni use UniFi
 
@TOWMN in other news you might be getting another scottish vote soon
 
10:00 AM
@Burgi hopefully I'll be in Australia burying my head in the sand with the ostriches
 
Bob
@TOWMN don't worry our PM will be burying his head right next to you
 
I think I will have a few seconds on an scammer' s inverted teamviewer connection soon, how could I wreck his system?
 
@Thijser format c:
 
he may or may not have administor access on his system
 
export homepage=www.illegalhorseporn.com
 
10:05 AM
that might be a good idea.
 
while true; do; reg.exe /add HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run/Startup/%RAND%=illegalhorseporn.com
 
steal his credit card details and his saved browser passwords Do No Harm >.>
 
reg.exe is a great way to add stuff to the registry without needing or even prompting for admin access on Windows.
 
great plan!\
Thanks
 
@TOWMN not sure if while true works on Windows.
 
10:08 AM
@Burgi I'm surrounded by cute girls and want to show off by fighting a crocodile like that Australian dude hax0r1ng a comput0rz
 
good to know
 
@Thijser I have some stuff for this but eh, can't access laptop right now. I'll post it later if you ever want to use it.
 
@Rahul2001 eh I was making it up as a example
Im sure he could Google whatever the equivalent FOR or WHILE loop is in Windows.
 
@Thijser part of me says its unethical. Part of me says, blog that shit.
 
Also if Windows comes with bash.exe them it'll work fine
 
10:10 AM
:a
Echo hi
Goto :a
@TOWMN Doubt that scammers run Windows 10. They're usually on pirated versions of 7
 
@JourneymanGeek I dealt with them before, they have a system where if you keep having trouble with your connection for about 40+ minutes they start trying to reverse the connection
 
@Thijser snoop around, you might find some interesting tools though.
 
@JourneymanGeek thats why i striked out my initial comment
 
he closed his connection with me after doing he horseporn thing (I managed to quickly get both of the commands in and the format c but did not see the output)
 
I had a dream last night that I was running Windows XP
 
10:13 AM
he is very disapointed in me
 
@Mokubai I can probably bounty that question on meta. I have a spare account I'm trying to slowly drain of rep ;p
 
Bob
Hm. @JourneymanGeek any way I can find out if there's a chat user tied to a site account?
ah, mod-only. bleargh.
 
@Bob probably when no one will use windows xp nor ipv4
 
Bob
@satibel Uh. Neither XP nor IPv4 have anything at all to do with mobile networks...
 
Bob
10:27 AM
Or was that a "never" joke that flew way over my head
 
@Bob yes, yes it is.
 
@Bob other than my superping, no
 
I want a faster SSD
 
maybe when you won't know a powerplant is the most advanced in the world when it's running XP.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek you have a link in your seekrit mod tools :P meta.stackexchange.com/a/266737/187228
but I found them anyway by name search
I don't understand why it needs to be mod-only... not like any network account links are private
 
10:29 AM
@Bob I have never needed it ;p
@Bob I don't have that 0_0
 
Bob
hm
my scrollwheel appears to have spontaneously failed
 
Urgh. Less than 2 months with Windows 10 and it's already broken enough to need a reinstall
@Bob Mine did that. I hit it a few times, and it didn't help.
Next day it spontaneously came back to life
Windows Update is broken, networking indicator is broken, system restore is broken, hibernate/resume is broken... :-/
 
Hmm. 6 upvotes in < 1 minute. I smell shenanigans.
 
as long as it isn't spontaneously combusting, it's okay.
 
Oh and OS refresh is also broken
Bleurgh
Luckily all I have on here is a few games, and I have all the drivers on the SSD already
 
10:44 AM
^with windows 10 you need deep freeze so it works :p
 
Laptop Thin HDD... 70% thicker than a laptop standard HDD
Someone doesn't understand the word thin
!!thatword
 
https://cdn.onthewight.com/wp-content/2013/05/seagate-st-412-IBM-XT-10Mb-hard-drive.jpg
thin hdd a few years ago :p
 
laptop
 
Bob
hm. rebooted and it works again
okden
 
10:50 AM
heavy sleet here
 
@Burgi Bright sunshine and bitterly cold wind here
 
its sunny on the other side of the city, i can see it from my window
very odd
 
@Bob my mouse's os is corrupted, so the led doesn't light up correctly.
 
@Burgi That's because Manchester is not United ;p
 
utility of arm based mouses.
 
10:56 AM
@DavidPostill is that a "sports" joke?
 
@Burgi Could be ;p
 
@DavidPostill something something everton something anfield something horse racing something something
 
@DavidPostill some days its a bit city.
 
wtf... 4LA have proposed a solution that is LESS secure
 
11:25 AM
@DavidPostill Why're you back on the old gravatar?
 
14 hours ago, by Burgi
omg... is @DavidPostill wearing that hat to cover up the crazy trump hair?
14 hours ago, by Burgi
@DavidPostill maybe you've been infected with hair! shrugs
@Rahul2001 You can blame @Burgi
 
@DavidPostill do you just... Get bullied into changing your profile picture? This is cyber harassment!
 
@Rahul2001 If I get a new mod hat I might change it again ;p
 
11:43 AM
You know where that link takes me?
Windows 10 help
 
well, you are still surprised that windows is broken?
 
!!s/windows/windows 10/
 
@DavidPostill well, you are still surprised that windows 10 is broken? (source)
 
@satibel That's a misinterpretation of my statement
 
12:03 PM
i dare you to call it fake news!
also BEHOLD my amazing photoshop skills
 
you should give him a TRUMPet too.
ba-dum-tss
^ mspaint.exe
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm not precious about my rep, but if you've got some on the bot that you need to burn then feel free to offer. He's not awarded yet or replied.
@Burgi that's a bit disturbing
 
@Mokubai foreshadowing
he is going to build a wall around Server Fault and get them to pay for it ;)
 
@Burgi lol
 
@Mokubai totally. Stupid overachieving low rep sock :p
 
12:17 PM
:)
 
@JourneymanGeek I just checked, no way is that sock "low rep".
Okay, compared to your main maybe... 😁
 
@Mokubai This is precisely the problem :p
@Burgi they might be happy about this
@Mokubai I post one answer just after work, as I shut down my PC
I figure its a throwaway answer....
wham. HNQ
 
Hello super usians
 
And the answer was a bloody oneliner.
Hi @Magisch
 
12:33 PM
One question
If I gain the necessary 150 reputation to vote in the election after it has started, can I still vote if I gain it before the election concludes?
 
hmm
I have no idea
I suppose so.
Try?
 
I'll probably be doing 25 edits over the week
so I can vote then
 
50 reputation in 8 days.... maybe 7
CHIA YU
or just answer stuff
 
I'm not good at sysadmin stuff
 
that's serverfault
do you know which end of a computer to point towards the enemy?
 
12:35 PM
@JourneymanGeek yeah, the ones that go viral are always the ones you just post as a throwaway answer. Case in point, my latest one about what a "tunnel" is. (sorry @DavidPostill) before it got edited it was just a basic rubbish metaphor type thing.
 
depends on the computer
 
@Mokubai and I didn't trust the workplace PC ;p
 
tbh I just want to vote for david as I know him from charcoal and think he'd make a great mod
 
lol
@Magisch apparently the bookies arn't taking bets on him winning for some reason ;)
 
@Magisch we have a very wide scope, not just sysadmin stuff
 
12:37 PM
At least I know I'm somewhat decent at fixing grammar and removing cruft from questions and answers
 
If you know how to make a computer do stuff and have basic research skills then 150 rep is easy
 
wrong answer. I just handed you a claymore.
 
@Mokubai I'm not complaining. I repcapped :)
 
Yours was technically correct though, which is the best kind of correct.
 
12:41 PM
Not everything. I tried putting my drink in one end of a VPN tunnel once, and not only was it not waiting for me at work, but my computer stopped working for some reason. — HopelessN00b yesterday
lol
 
mind btw
Is this the place to ask about a really messed up VPN connection, btw
 
We tend to point questions at the main site. Bitching is allowed here. Sometimes it helps
 
@Magisch Yes, but we also like questions on the main site (hint, hint).
 
We have a camera on a specialised router (for boats) that need the router to connect either to a dyndns service (through the port's wlan or through a 4G+ data card) or a VPN service we will have to set up
 
12:50 PM
you might even get upviotes for a good question
 
the issue is our sales guy already sold the solution without knowing we can actually do it
and nobody here has even the faintest clue how to
I think that'd make a very bad question
 
lol
"the issue is our sales guy already sold the solution without knowing we can actually do it"
loloololol
more seriously - without knowing the capabilities of said router, its impossible to get started
 
It's a Glomex 4G+ WebBoat router with a RUT950 router component installed
we already contacted the manufacturing company and they just pointed us toward the cryptic handbook
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg 3D, 3D, 3D, VR, game streaming... bah. (I know there's useful stuff in there, but they only list those)
 
opens manual
 
12:54 PM
And now I've been tasked to find out how to make it work
until friday
without physical access to the device, so I can't test
 
the glomex seems to be a antenna system
 
@Magisch seems like a problem for your salesperson to fix. "you got us into this damn mess..."
 
this suggests openvpn support as a client
 
right
 
Bob
slap on a small embedded computer and call it a day :P
 
12:55 PM
is it the same handbook?
I have seen much much worse
 
yes
In the end, the end user (customer) wants to use an app on his phone to connect to the camera (basicly he needs to enter the IP / host of the camera into the app)
 
you can install openvpn on his phone too?
 
So I need a way to get a glomex router to somehow consistently connect to a DynDNS service (already tried with the steps laid out in the user manual, doesn't work since the router is beneath the main router of the harbor)
 
or port forward it to....
samn. who are you here?
 
@Mokubai, exactly what I was thinking regarding viral questions/answers! In the relatively short time I have been here, my top two answers regarding up-votes were each typed and posted in less than a minute. It really is rather surprising!
 
12:57 PM
@Magisch no no. Openvpn client out to a known, fixed server
 
so we make a openVPN server in our company
 
@Run5k Simple stuff, people know is correct, so it gets upvoted quickly. Then HNQ effect...
 
Bob
@Magisch Buy $5 PiZero, install DynDNS service, connect to router and power source, call it a day. Well, that's what I'd do as a guy not selling it as a solution to a client.
 
and set a port forwarding rule so that any traffic directed to our (fixed ip) server at our company is redirected through the openVPN tunnel
 
12:58 PM
@Bob - NAT tho
 
@Bob rpizero doesn't have networking afaik
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek all dyndns does is point the domain at the public IP. port forwarding is separate
 
@Bob the boat may not have a public IP
 
Bob
@satibel fine, add a cheap USB to eth adapter :P
 
so 7$ opi zero
 
Bob
12:59 PM
@JourneymanGeek Then DynDNS wouldn't work in the first place. Simple solution? s/DynDNS/OpenVPN/, keep the Pi.
 
@Bob which the router does...
actually
you could do that, yeah
 

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