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@allquixotic @allquixotic @allquixotic @ThatTotalitarianGuy I'm dingle today () () () (source)
 
@allquixotic @allquixotic @allquixotic @ThatTotalitarianGuy I'm dingle today (source)
 
!! s/@ThatTotalitarianGuy/and a little bit more @allquixotic because there's no such a thing as too much @allquixotic and/
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy @allquixotic @allquixotic @allquixotic and a little bit more @allquixotic because there's no such a thing as too much @allquixotic and I'm dingle today (source) (source)
 
@allquixotic: Not just ANY Rama Rao, he's NT Rama Rao!
 
2:00 PM
@JourneymanGeek I don't get it >_>
 
(old indian regional politician, Not from my neck of the woods)
 
NT?
 
(that's his name ;p)
 
oh >_>
we have a Rama Rao in the building
 
riddle me this, can a router/AP work with its management webpage, and pingability completely borked?
 
2:01 PM
@JourneymanGeek That was back in the early 2000's, nowadays he goes by Windows 8 Rama Rao
 
ROFL
 
...but it wasn't even funny! :O
 
@JourneymanGeek define "work" :P if its firewall is ignoring ICMP and UDP pings, but you can still route traffic through it as a gateway, and its management webpage is disabled, then sure, it'll work :P
for a router to "work", all you need is for its interface to be in promisc mode and for it to forward traffic from the LAN interface to the WAN interface
that's a fairly low standard
 
posted on September 03, 2014

On September 2nd, 2014 there was an outage of all Stack Exchange sites (Q&A sites as well as Careers) from 5:20pm to 17:24pm UTC (approximately 4 minutes). This was a cascading failure. A python script used for monitoring our servers was updated and pushed to the load balancers. The updated script wasn’t tested and it included a syntax error. When the monitoring script crashed due to the s

 
2:04 PM
the web server might have crashed, or its firewall may be blocking the management page lol
 
oh, I know that the interfaces arn't disabled
 
@StackExchange DevOps ftw
random outages all over the place due to developer error is NOT how you run a production website!
 
for people who act so smart, they can be ridiculously stupid sometimes
 
This is why we can't have nice things
;p
 
2:06 PM
Guys whats up
Im kinda desperate for an answer to my question
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Q: Locking down SFTP user in cygwin

medaI set up a user to ssh to Windows Server 2008 R2. I was able to change de default directory. The only piece I could not figure out is how to restrict user to just that directory. In other word I don't want the user to be able to change directory. Please advise. EDIT: This is where I stand:...

 
blah. I think I'm going to get a ladder and reset the router tommorrow.
 
I need a better secondary email for facebook and google password recovery. Somehow having it set to my work email feels like anyone with email server access could steal my account.
And the usual way of getting server access around here is just going to the desk of someone who has its key on the server and asking him to add your own key...
 
I attached a bounty to it
 
Time to go home, Cya guys xD
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy: what's your primary?
 
2:08 PM
Google: own gmail address, secondary is work.
Facebook: same.
 
email address?
ahh
2
 
@JourneymanGeek why do you need a ladder to reset a router?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy: linking it to your phone..
@allquixotic: Its higher than I am?
 
O.o
 
Duuuuuuuude. It's higher than I am now. Like... it's all iterconnected, don't you see? All those IPs and networks and stuff... it's all linked together!
 
2:10 PM
@meda security and cygwin should not be used in the same question
cygwin is a development environment, not a production environment
 
I'm convinced that the router's crashed in some super wierd way that lets it act as a switch.
and the AP runs fine too
 
@JourneymanGeek not impossible
 
I seem to recall it COMPLETELY crashed before
and I had to 30 30 30 it
 
30 what?
oh. seconds.
 
ya ;p
(those damned tiny buttons ><)
 
2:12 PM
brb, time to see if people aren't standing around in the kitchen talking like they were when I came in... need to put my lunch in the fridge
 
the same people seem to crowd around the kitchen for like 3 hours out of every 8-hour day
they stand there and speak aoiwenfioaewiogfnaoifgoajfjawerifjqwoef (I have no idea which Indian language) and drink chai and pour it between two cups repeatedly to aerate it or something
and are constantly using the water dispenser blocking me from getting to the fridge
I feel like an idiot just having to push my way in
 
@allquixotic at this point I just need to make it work
 
I think they consume chai faster than the water dispenser can spit out hot water
 
2:14 PM
it cools it down, mainly
also makes it bubbly.
 
@JourneymanGeek they are doing it the most inefficient way
 
@meda use NT permissions; Cygwin can't bypass NT permissions because it's a userspace program on top of Windows
 
> pour it between two cups repeatedly to aerate it or something
The only reason I ever did that was to make it less tongueburning.
 
Then there's
 
just deny the user access to everything except the dirs they need
@JourneymanGeek @_@
 
2:15 PM
"chai" == "tea" ?
 
Chai walla? (my mom told me that's what they're called)
@ThatBrazilianGuy not ==
 
Well that's tea tarik
its the malaysian variation
 
chai is a type of tea
 
Not really
Chai is tea. There's masala chai which is spiced tea
also, in india, all tea is usually black
 
@JourneymanGeek confused? :P
@JourneymanGeek ahh. here, anything called chai is black tea with spice (and the spice is almost always black pepper, possibly plus other stuff, but black pepper is the most common ingredient)
but we drink lots of white tea, green tea, herbals, etc which are not chai at all
 
2:18 PM
@allquixotic: camouflaged!
green tea and white tea are chinese.
We have herbal 'teas' but we have other names for em
 
Nonsense! Preposterous! Any herbal infusion in hot water is tea.
That's what tea is, after all.
 
unless its soup.
;p
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy a perfectly western mindset :P remember, puppers is from a different part o' the world
not wrong, just different
 
"puppers"?
 
woof ;p
 
2:20 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy word-of-adoration for puppy
 
Oh how cute you guys have nicknames for each other * ____ * <3
 
!! s/each other/the guy who roleplays a dog/
 
@allquixotic Oh how cute you guys have nicknames for the guy who roleplays a dog * ____ * <3 (source)
 
I don't roleplay a BSOD sadface, so it doesn't quite work for me.
 
Wait... I just realized... IS @JourneymanGeek a furry?!?! O_o
 
2:22 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy dogs have fur, yes ;p
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy: not in the sense you're saying, no.
 
No, you know, those other ones. The ones from the internet.
 
!!no
 
I know which ones you mean
 
2:23 PM
I have a few friends who are, and I completely do not share their interests in that fandom ;p
 
^
the only things we like with fur are actual real animals that have natural fur on them, not man-animal hybrid fantasy things
 
Is on the internet: check.
Roleplays as a canine being: check.
Geek: check.
Says "woof": check.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Not whatever Qualcomm might cook up?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy: though, that probably started with the Avas ;p
 
2:25 PM
(If it is not obvious I'm not being serious at all)
 
@Bob some of Qualcomm's chips are Cortexes. others are heavily based on Cortex (something like a fork, but at a physical chip layer).
I think they got permission from ARM Holdings to make chips based on Cortex but not an exact implementation of it
that's what the Krait is, which is what the Snapdragon S4 and 800 series are based on
 
@allquixotic: I don't really think arm cares how much you alter the designs, as long as they get paid ;p
The via chip we were talking about is allegedly an arm/x86 hybrid
 
Exynos and Apple's ARM chips are probably significantly less Cortexy, but Qualcomm's are pretty Cortexy :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic (chai \in tea)?
 
You can switch modes at boot time, and it'll apparently expose the other arch's instructions as well.
which is wierd ;p
 
2:27 PM
@_@
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...I've never heard of white tea
@JourneymanGeek huh, I thought it sounded like that :P
cha = chinese word for tea
 
white tea has a very light, bright flavor, I find
 
Bob
lu cha = green tea
 
@Bob ocha = Japanese word for tea :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic they've been stealing parts of each others' languages for centuries :P
 
2:28 PM
white tea is also some of the most expensive tea you can find...
 
Bob
@allquixotic probably why I haven't heard of it! :P
 
Wierdly, we I do think we call tea tea and coffee coffee
 
Bob
green, chrysanthemum and oolong... not sure what else
 
!! s/Wie/Wei/
 
2:29 PM
@allquixotic Weirdly, we I do think we call tea tea and coffee coffee (source)
 
Bob
@allquixotic Hm, I thought it was a bit more different than that.
 
@Bob: chrysanthemum dosen't contain any actual tea tho
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Might be useful in very limited cases, but unless AMD or Intel decide to do something similar there won't be any mainstream OS support for it.
 
Its flower water ;p
 
@Bob the primary differences between other vendors' SoCs and the Snapdragons are outside of the CPU core, but still on the SoC package
 
2:31 PM
(and my mom keeps saying it tastes like hay)
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek we still call it tea, kay?
 
things like the memory controller, the LTE/WiFi/DAC/DSP chips, the GPU, etc. are all going to be wildly different between vendors
 
@Bob: yeah. AMD is more likely to than Intel tho
 
the CPU core itself that does general purpose computation is not radically different
until you start talking about the new ARM 64-bit chips.
 
@Bob: Linux might be easier than windows in that respect
 
2:32 PM
@allquixotic Ok I will make research on NT permission.

I have quick question , when I tried to use FTPS like you suggested, my firewall rejected connection.

I believe its because of some ports.

I opened 990, but I read that it needs custom port ranges like for example 3000-4000 for passive mode.

My question is what is a difference opening a single port , or a range. Do it mean 1000 ports will be open ?
 
Bob
did anyone ever take that seriously?
the sheer power differences between a high-end Intel x86 proc and the best ARM can offer is laughable
 
@JourneymanGeek that could be interesting: boot desktop Linux for HiB and powerful content creation tools; reboot into Android for content consumption and Angry Birds
 
@allquixotic: or something like a compatibility layer
 
Bob
@allquixotic HiB? Humble Bundle? :S
 
Line? :P
instead of Wine... Line... for running Linux/x86 binaries on Android? :P
 
2:35 PM
@Bob: probably not, though if anyone can switch architectures...
 
it'd need to translate X11 and desktop OpenGL calls into SurfaceFlinger and GLES though
that would suck
 
@allquixotic: actually, there's supposed to be a way to run apps cross platform using QEMU
 
@Bob Yes.
 
Imagine hardware accelerated cross-architecture apps.
 
@JourneymanGeek "Via: Imagine Inefficiency." That's their new corporate slogan
 
2:36 PM
and don't forget, you can 'just' recompile many apps for architecture.
 
Bob
> There is no Apple cult. There are simply those who prefer a superior operating system running on quality hardware.
Ha. Ha. Ha.
 
@allquixotic: Well, they basically went to a logical extreme.
@Bob: So, linux on a DIY box? ;p
 
Bob
Actual quote from a comment on that article.
 
@meda "opening" a port doesn't actually open it; the device will reply that the port is closed unless some daemon is listening on that port
 
(I suppose or windows)
 
2:38 PM
normally if a port is blocked (filtered), the device won't even reply to the sender if it tries to access a blocked/filtered port
if it's not blocked but no service is listening on it, it'll reply that the port is closed and not allow a connection
 
Bob
@allquixotic commonly known as "stealthing"
which is also completely stupid
 
if it's not blocked and a service is listening on it, you get a connection
 
@allquixotic I have filezilla listenning on that port
and it works with private ip
 
@meda wait, are you trying to do this over the public internet?
 
yes
I want my ftp server to be visible on public
 
2:41 PM
don't.
 
superuser.com/questions/806730/… I really think this guy is going to hurt himself
 
how would my clients use it then?
 
no offense, but I don't think you are properly informed about security aspects to run an FTP server on the public internet.
you should use dropbox or something to transfer files.
 
I dont take offense, I am not very educated in networking
 
setting up an FTP server properly over the public internet in a way that doesn't expose you to attack requires a bit of technique. it's not impossible, but it's certainly a bit risky.
 
2:43 PM
yes but how else can people send me files
 
I'd advise using a cloud service. no setup required :P
 
@meda: bitorrent sync is an excellent idea for that
 
Bob
@meda ajaxplorer? :)
oh, they renamed it to pydio
 
Pydio could work too
that's probably easier to configure securely than FileZilla
still, I don't like the idea of running this on a home network connection
you should really get a VPS ;p
 
Bob
I've been running the previous version on a VPS for quite a while now, and it works pretty well
warning, though, it is PHP and can get a bit memory hungry on apache (possibly a problem for a light VPS)
nginx + fastcgi might be better, but you'll have to translate the htaccess scripts... bleh
hm, apache + fastcgi might work
 
2:48 PM
why use apache tho?
lighttpd!
ahh, htaccess
 
Bob
ooh, they have a setup guide for nginx + fastcgi: pyd.io/freebsd-nginx-php-fpm
targeted towards freebsd, but that part is trivially adapted
 
@allquixotic ok I will consider using a 3 party tool
Im not at home, actually at work
 
pydio dosen't look too bad
 
Bob
huh, pydio now uses mysql o.O
it used sqlite last I checked
 
@Bob: I see one for fedora and debian as well
 
Bob
2:52 PM
@JourneymanGeek huh?
oh, so there is
 
wow I didnt even know something like that existed
pydio looks interesting
 
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Q: Sending a non-maskable interrupt to a virtual machine with VMware Fusion

zneakI'm using a virtual machine to do kernel debugging on Mac OS X because it's cheaper and more convenient than another computer. Unfortunately, contrary to the Windows equivalent, it's not possible to use the debugger to stop the kernel. To stop it, you have to send the machine a non-maskable inte...

> kernel debugging on Mac OS X
wow
that works I guess since XNU is open source (except for the drivers -_-)
 
@allquixotic I find nothing on NT permission , did you mean NTFS
 
Thats actually kinda cool
 
@meda just plain old Windows access control lists! right-click a directory, properties, security... deny access to users etc
 
Bob
3:03 PM
the important thing is to figure out what cygwin (or the users who log in through it) is running as
 
@Bob cyg processes run as windows users, I thought. even sudo is supposed to work
> /*
A monk once asked master Chao-chou, "Does a dog have Buddha-nature or not?"

Chao-chou said, "Mu"
*/
!!wat
 
Bob
@allquixotic yea, but that breaks if all his users are logging in under his account or something do
 
!!forget wat
 
@allquixotic Command wat forgotten.
 
3:09 PM
!!learn wat '<>http://i.stack.imgur.com/FuoyW.jpg'
 
@allquixotic Command wat learned
 
!!teach @MichaelFrank how to use !!learn
 
@allquixotic That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Bob
!! s/how to use/help/
 
@Bob !!teach @MichaelFrank help !!learn (source)
 
Bob
3:10 PM
!! s/!!learn/learn/
 
@Bob @Bob !!teach @MichaelFrank help learn (source) (source)
 
Bob
!! s/@Bob @Bob (.*?)\(source.*/$1/
 
@Bob Could not process input. Error: unterminated parenthetical on line 248
@Bob \1 (source)
@Bob !!teach @MichaelFrank help learn (source)
 
!! s/teach/tell/
 
@allquixotic @Bob !!tell @MichaelFrank help learn (source) (source)
 
Bob
3:13 PM
I can never remember which backreference format it is :\
@allquixotic ...completely missed that LOL
@JourneymanGeek Any chance you'd be willing to forward one over? :P
It's cheaper in Singapore, even including shipping I expect, and it's guaranteed genuine.
 
Q: Which country does Sting make sure never to miss when he's on tour?
A: Stingapore.
...
Sorry.
his new (well, last year's) album is fantastic...
Q: What do you call a cat that listens for another cat meowing in one room, then meows in the direction of another room when they hear the first cat meowing?
A: A meowter.
...
Sorry.
 
3:34 PM
posted on September 03, 2014

Expert Hackers

 
Bob
> Hack into any DATA BASE
hrm
> Hack WORD-PRESS Blogs
ok, that isn't even hard
Well, I suppose it's less off-topic than the sports jersey ones :S
 
@Bob wait, we are trying to hack sports jerseys too?
 
4:08 PM
@Bob You can't "hack" something when it by design authorizes you to gain root access to the machine anyway.
That's like saying I "bypassed" the guard at the front desk by showing him my (legitimate) badge and swiping it through the (legitimate) badge reader.
 
4:37 PM
@allquixotic by design? root access? huh?
Doesn't it run on apache + php and therefore has the same access level as the user apache runs on?
If someone's running apache as root, that's... weird. (and dumb).
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy it's a running joke here that Wordpress is an anonymous root shell that happens to offer a blog as a side feature.
@___@
 
5:44 PM
are you guys familiar with creating Linux VM on Azure?
I'm trying to set one up without ssh key authentication and not having any luck
 
I haven't on Azure, but I've setup Debian about 20 times so far, in the past year alone...
 
it's frustrating :( I'd like password login without having to worry about ssh keys
 
Can you past the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?
 
posted on September 03, 2014

TRAINS! http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5366279

 
6:07 PM
I'm not getting there, I'm trying to create the VM with Add-AzureProvisioningConfig for which I can't figure out the settings that will allow me to login to the new VM without ssh key file
 
6:32 PM
@Kate it isn't that much of a "worry" -- JFDI :P
best advice I ever received from an extremely smart developer on IRC a couple years ago: JFDI!
it's more secure, and it's really not a worry
 
@allquixotic JFDI... it'll now be the biggest sticky note on my monitor
@allquixotic and get an oversized one on somebody else's desk
 
6:51 PM
@Kate did you look up what it means? :P
Thanks a lot. This worked when nothing else was working. — Aseem Bansal 3 hours ago
OH yeah! Who's awesome! That's right! Me!
 
@allquixotic no, I've heard it before, it was a good reminder though
 
 
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8:22 PM
I guess people here use VIM
I've installed GVIM, I hate the fact it creates a file filename.txt~
why does it do that, and how do you avoid it?
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Q: Why does Vim save files with a ~ extension?

RossI've found that while using Vim on Windows Vim saves the file, a .ext.swp file that's deleted on closing the Vim window and a .ext~ file. I assume the .ext.swp file is a session backup in case Vim crashes. What's the purpose of the .ext~ file however? Is this a permanent backup file? It's annoy...

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Q: How to prevent vim from creating (and leaving) temporary files?

hasenjWhy does vim create <filename>~ files? Is there a way to disable that? If it's for backup (or something), I use git for that. Also, these .<filename.with.path.hints>.swp files too. How do I tell vim not to create those, or at the least to cleanup after itself? EDIT wops, duplicate: Why ...

 
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A: How to prevent vim from creating (and leaving) temporary files?

Chad BirchPut this in your .vimrc configuration file. set nobackup

why doesn't that work?
 
8:43 PM
@allquixotic Yep... I messed up, then had to go out . :P
 
@Bob assuming they were in stock. ;p
 
9:04 PM
@MichaelFrank are wallabees mean?
if so, can you send a few thousand of them to rampage the streets of Moscow plz. airdrop will suffice
 
@allquixotic We don't have those here.
 
@MichaelFrank yes you do!
wikipedia says so! :<
 
Infact, we have no native predators.
 
...
you're useless then
 
@allquixotic Yea, I guess we actually do... I've never seen a wild Wallaby though.
 
9:29 PM
@MichaelFrank you're ECG :D (Easily Convinced Guy)
"I can't WAIT to eat this bagel! :D"
"Yes you can. >:|"
"...Yeah, I guess you're right. :(("
 
Naw, I checked Wikipedia myself.
 
9:59 PM
I. AM. GROOT.
 
hmm. Isis Wallet changed their name to Softcard. Problem: Slow typist mom googles "s - o - f - t - c", gets distracted by a cat, and Google Instant starts showing her softcompletethisword inappropriate pictures.
 
So you are
 
> Yes, this is a joke account.
okay.png
 
nope.avi
aww :(
 
10:02 PM
@allquixotic Is "slow typist mom" really going to be using Softcard?
 
@MichaelFrank sure! beats carrying coins to the vending machine to get snickers bars
 
That gets annoying fast
 
lol
 
!! s/an/nan/g
 
10:04 PM
@allquixotic That gets nannoying fast (source)
 
New screen is on its way ^^
 
Meeting in 35 minutes... About the strike that is still going on... <sigh>
 
bah. still that damn strike!
 
I just want to go home! I'm normally off in 20 minutes
Soo... Tired... More tired than the okay.png guy
 
Strike?
 
10:12 PM
@JourneymanGeek It's a people thing, for people in unions :P
The teachers in my province are all on strike. So I'm keeping my summer hours, which let me go home an hour early
 
@CanadianLuke: We don't have strikes (Other than the one with chinese bus drivers) in general
ahh ;p
 
Well, unions let almost anyone strike
 
Oh, our unions generally don't
 
SELECT * FROM WORKERS UNION ALL SELECT -1 FROM WORMS;
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999‌​999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999‌​999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999‌​999999999999999999999999999999
^ the 99th root of the number of things I have to do that I don't feel like doing
 
 
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Oh, this is embarassing
I think I answered what's essentially a near dupe of my own question
 
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