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12:14 AM
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Q: Why is $HOME inherited when I start a shell with sudo?

Oliver SalzburgI'm setting up a Vagrant box and I noticed something I found odd. root@box:~# sudo --user=vagrant bash bash: /root/.bashrc: Permission denied vagrant@box:~$ export declare -x HOME="/root" Why is HOME set to /root here? The home directory for the user vagrant is certainly not /root: vagrant@bo...

 
@allquixotic: Well... there's 14 inchers with dgpu
The dell Area51 one is huge iirc
@DragonLord: Probably named after the Hugh Jackman movie, where he's a vampire hunter and for some odd reason also werewolves.
Silver's supposed to do a number on either ;p
Razer's practically macbook sized but pricy as hell
 
@JourneymanGeek Fedora and silver crossbow
 
That's definately the movie.
 
I've got an exam to take, so I'll be away for a few hours
 
12:31 AM
I just closed this
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Q: Where did this Windows Vista System Rescue CD come from?

IQAndreasWhen repairing a computer (donated to us, so I can't ask the original owners questions), I found this Windows Vista System Rescue CD in the CD drive: The label is professionally made (not one of those "home labeling kits" you can create with your inkjet and then stick onto the CD) But it is o...

I'm confused how the OP thinks it looks professional
 
I'm confused by thinking we might know the exact source...
 
Bob
I'm just confused.
 
1:00 AM
Interesting
creating a new account gives you a chameleon hat
 
Bob
1:32 AM
@JourneymanGeek Sock. In disguise.
 
@Bob: How? ;p
Besides, shouldn't it be booties?
Dogs don't wear socks.
 
Bob
1:53 AM
I discovered that to my detriment today.
> This is a horrible, horrible creeping plague of uncertainty that spreads through your UI, where the validity of an operation can't be determined at the callsite, but must also take into account the underlying type of an object (violating polymorphism), where that object came from (violating encapsulation), and what thread is being used to process the call (violating all that is sacred).
And I'm currently experiencing that exact feeling.
 
2:08 AM
@CanadianLuke but we do know where it came from.
It came from his CD drive.
 
@Bob Sometimes I feel glad for having no idea what this all means. ;p
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy All you really need to know is "violating all that is sacred".
 
I vaguely recall polymorphism and encapsulation from OOP classes back from before I dropped out of uni in 2004
Java... Those were horrible memories nightmares great times
 
2:29 AM
@Hennes Still... No
 
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TIL
 
20 years ago today: Netscape Navigator v1.0 was released.
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3:11 AM
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Q: how to launch a cmd exe at current working directory with shortcut?

upmaMy OS is Win7. When I need to open a cmd.exe at current working directory, I will press "shift" key and right click the screen and I will get "Open command window here". Is there any faster way?

 
3:33 AM
Docker is amazing :O
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy It means I needed a workaround :P
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A: How to be thread-safe using INotifyPropertyChanged with no SynchronizationContext?

BobSo... turns out there's actually a very nice way if you don't mind relying on an extension generating some code for you at compile time. I was using Fody/PropertyChanged anyway, making this a very easy change. This avoids having to a reference to a SynchronizationContext in models that really hav...

 
Found interesting malware on an old Joomla site, moved it to a test pc to look at it: imgur.com/JaFn84e
Thought it was pretty neat
@JourneymanGeek I can't stop the yelling in my head at all caps posts
 
Bob
@allquixotic I'm finding it hard to decide if Java or C# databinding is worse :P
 
ugh
My blog is down yet again
 
Bob
3:48 AM
C#/.NET seems to have far more built-in support for it, but it has far too many quirks.
 
Donno what's wrong. Its not getting backed up, database connections are borked till reboot.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Is this one hosted by allq?
 
naw
buyvm, offloaded db
 
Has anyone noticed they can take someone's profile picture on here if it's linked to Facebook and find their profile?
not that it really matters... but some users might not want that =p
also I don't mean by image searching, but by going to the picture URL, etc
 
@ekaj: Thank you for the fix ;p
 
3:53 AM
welcome =p I think that's what he was trying to ask
 
Actually, without the capslock, I suddenly understand what the question is. Its amazing
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Bob
@JourneymanGeek I still can't see through the blood :(
 
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Blood?
MEDIC! VET! DUCTAPE!
 
One user posted a not-terribly written question, but used cos instead of because the whole time.. why
 
@ekaj That has a name, it's called a booter or soemthing
 
Bob
4:01 AM
@JourneymanGeek => eyes bleeding :P
 
@HackToHell what are you referring to?
 
Bob
@ekaj just cos
 
I don't know that one =p
 
4:13 AM
@ekaj I didn't even notice over the allcaps
 
I wonder if anyone has ever done a study on why that is difficult to read =p
and I'm curious if someone who doesn't use the computer often interprets it as yelling or being difficult to read
 
@ekaj follow the link
Oh docker what are thou downloading
 
4:30 AM
If you're referring to the malware, the name is in the title =p
 
4:57 AM
Speaking of malware
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Q: Can a malware transmit over hotspot

besabestinIf I have a malware infected computer and I connect the computer to the internet using my phone's wifi hotspot (phone using school network) can the malware have its way into the school network I use? (If I connect my computer directly, surely the malware is identified with the school's network ad...

 
 
KSP needs more horses
 
I'm concerned dogs is a measure of launch capacity.
Cats would clearly be a better one.
 
@Paul 0.9 added more powerful parts
@JourneymanGeek Tried docker yet ?
 
5:12 AM
@HackToHell: not yet
 
It's bloody simple to run stuff
 
It is, I'm told ;p
just not gotten around to it
 
@HackToHell Yeah, I started a new career last night on hard mode (except for quicksave, which I only ever use when KSP does a mental) in .90 I am launching from a pit in the ground :)
 
@Paul :O
 
I killed Jeb already
 
5:18 AM
sigh... As usual, the dev team thinks of everything. If only every website took this amount of care to ensuring nobody would game the system... That's the #1 reason Stack Exchange is so successful—because of strong protections against abuse. Otherwise, it would have been just another alternative to Yahoo Answers. Web developers, let this be a lesson—before your website is overrun with abuse. Mandatory reading: blog.codinghorror.com/designing-for-evilDragonLord the Fiery 6 mins ago
...on implicit quality requirements for certain hats, such as a positive post score
Web developers: NEVER deploy a new service or feature until you're sure you've provided for potential abuse!
 
Bob
@DragonLord I would say it's more the community.
Give the community the tools and incentive to deal with it.
Limit any automated punishments as much as possible.
 
@Bob ...but Stack Exchange happens to rely heavily on automation to protect against abuse.
 
What're we worrying about again? ;p
 
Bob
@DragonLord Not that much.
Pretty much all actions need either a diamond mod or a community vote.
 
@JourneymanGeek It's just a PSA
 
Bob
5:23 AM
I think the only one that really doesn't is question/answer banning.
 
I'm not really complaining about the way things work here
 
@Bob: and some spam filters
 
Bob
And that's a giant black-box/question-mark that, until recently, did not provide any useful feedback pre-ban and was nearly impossible to recover from post-ban.
@JourneymanGeek You mean the rate limiting?
 
Bob
There's no hard filters that don't require manual intervention to enable, AFAIK.
Google also does badly in that regard, at times.
(they sometimes display a captcha, which is alright, but I've had instances where they just hard-block for a while on crowded networks)
@DragonLord The vast majority of automation from SE is in bringing potentially problematic posts to the attention of humans.
O.O
 
Bob
5:38 AM
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A: Apple keeps asking me to accept the new iCloud terms and conditions

Buscar웃Since you had the iCloud turned on initially, you will have to accept the T&C anyway. You have a iCloud account! Turning it off now is to late since you used the product already.

"You've used it already, so you must accept the new T&C!"
I'm not seeing the logic there.
 
@Bob A contract isn't valid until both parties agree to it.
 
Bob
@DragonLord That's my point.
> you will have to accept the T&C anyway ... Turning it off now is to late since you used the product already. Why? He was using it under the old terms. He agreed to the old terms. While Apple is within their rights to cancel service if he does not agree to the new terms, they cannot force him to agree to the new terms. He can choose to discontinue use of the service - and that seems to be his intention. — Bob 1 min ago
 
Given that, this answer should not have been voted so highly.
 
Bob
In fact, if the old contract had any length of agreement specified or involved a payment from him, I'm not sure they'd be legally allowed to force a "new terms or cancel" on him.
I'm leaning towards no.
 
SSL 3 is disabled on my blog but I'm still getting hits from user agents that still claim to be IE6
I'm going to block such user agents—or should I?
 
Bob
5:47 AM
@DragonLord I wouldn't be surprised if at least some came from web proxies like @allquixotic's employer apparently uses.
 
mew
I think I'm going to try to be a bit more active on SF.. it seems like it could use it...even if I don't know how to answer of them =p if I read enough I should eventually be able to
 
Bob
6:08 AM
o.O
SU's grown by 70,000 users since Feburary. That's 10 months.
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I wonder what percentage are spammers...
LOL
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Q: Which PHP script does Super User use?

NT Possible Duplicate: What was Stack Overflow built with? Does anybody know which PHP script Super User is using? I plan to set-up a web site for college education issues. But I want it to have a script like superuser.com. Where can I get this script?

@allquixotic ^
 
heh I honestly didn't know SE ran on an MS stack
 
6:28 AM
@Bob my proxy is letting IE 11 masquerading as IE 10 through these days. :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic Well, I suppose that's an improvement :P
 
6:42 AM
;p
@Bob: suprisingly few
maybe a couple of hundred
 
7:21 AM
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Q: Dell Inspiron 14R 5420 intermittently fails to boot

codeomnitrixI have a Dell laptop which sometimes boots and sometimes doesn't. When it boots, it works perfectly normal. However, when it doesn't boot, it doesn't show anything on screen, the light check goes on, the fan runs, and then it stops and nothing happens. What I've tried so far: Replaced CMOS Bat...

I once had a really old Dell laptop which was given to me because it would never boot up
The symptoms were very similar to what the OP described, only that the system never managed to start up
 
As I tend to say, at some point, the time spent + parts cost > cost of a new laptop ;p
 
It would turn on for a moment then shut down
It was actually given to me by my high school principal for me to experiment with and see if I could fix it
 
in this case tho, its new enough for warranty, so the last is 0 ;p
Oh, I ran a wierd little dumpster diva a few years myself ;p
 
I couldn't and ended up throwing out the system (although I returned a few select parts to the school)
I kept the processor, though
 
lol
Ram's worth keeping. You can get a controller board for many screens for ~30 bucks.
 
7:27 AM
I believe it was a Socket P chip
Stupid Firefox copy-to-clipboard failure
 
lol
not that bad.
My spares are mostly that era
tho, other than the hard drives, Thinkpads of the era were bulletproof.
 
7:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek On another check: this is not even Socket P
This is PGA479
 
8:06 AM
When will HP refresh their Envy Phoenix desktop to use Haswell-E?
They're still on Ivy Bridge-E.
 
8:30 AM
Eventually I guess
tho... buying a gaming desktop seems off to me
Like buying a light saber at Jaz slimey's weapons's emporium ;p
 
8:47 AM
How fine crafted crystal is different from handmade crystal?
 
9:16 AM
Internet Explorer auto-correction is really the most annoying shit I've experienced this month
 
@OliverSalzburg If I'm not mistaken, spelling AutoCorrect is enabled by default in most Windows Store apps
 
@DragonLord That only makes it worse >:(
I'm on an English Windows, on an English Website, typing an English text and it starts capitalizing words for me >:((
…because it assumes it's German
 
It is enabled by default at the system level
Open the PC settings app, then go to PC and devices > Typing to disable
 
@DragonLord It only affects IE though
 
Are you using the Windows Store app or the desktop app?
 
9:30 AM
@DragonLord Desktop
Maybe the behavior is even specific to the website I was on
 
Hang on, I've found the answer
 
Toggling that Spelling switch seems to have fixed it though
 
Open Internet Properties in Control Panel
In the Advanced tab, under Browsing in the Settings box, clear the Use inline AutoComplete in the Internet Explorer Address Bar and Open Dialog checkbox
 
10:12 AM
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Q: How do you update npm to the latest version?

Oliver SalzburgI'm having issues with npm in a Vagrant box I'm setting up. I noticed that the npm version is somewhat old, so I wanted to check the problem with the latest release. It is my understanding that you should be able to update npm using npm install -g npm, but the command has no effect on the npm be...

So many problems this week :P
Try, $ sudo npm install npm -g — vembutech 4 mins ago
Nice :P
 
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Q: Roccat Kone XTD mouse may spontaneously disconnect when devices attached to the computer are manipulated

DragonLordFor some odd reason, my Roccat Kone XTD gaming mouse likes to disconnect by itself when I plug in, disconnect, or otherwise manipulate other devices that are attached to my computer. That includes such mundane things as touching a cable to a USB port (without even plugging it in) or probing a USB...

 
10:44 AM
 
@OliverSalzburg: I seem to recall joyent expects you to use a ppa for the latest
ahh. Shiny. I didn't know that was an option
 
@JourneymanGeek For Node itself, maybe. But I was just looking to update npm
 
This is weird, I now put the npm install -g npm into my vagrantfile, and it updates npm on the first run
 
Gremlins!
 
10:54 AM
Maybe this is another sudo "problem"
 
Or caching. Tho there's precious little difference between gremlins and caching.
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but in the fresh vagrant box, there really shouldn't be any caches
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Q: Why is $HOME inherited when I start a shell with sudo?

Oliver SalzburgI'm setting up a Vagrant box and I noticed something I found odd. root@box:~# sudo --user=vagrant bash bash: /root/.bashrc: Permission denied vagrant@box:~$ export declare -x HOME="/root" Why is HOME set to /root here? The home directory for the user vagrant is certainly not /root: vagrant@bo...

That's what got me yesterday
 
o@OliverSalzburg: caching is the lupus of computer problems ;p
or was it the other way around.
 
This is really terribly annoying. I thought I'd set up a vagrantfile to get a reliable way to set up an instance of our core application server, but it's everything but reliable
Constant weird problems related to npm and bower
 
sounds abooooot right ;p
 
11:33 AM
There really aren't many things that get me as angry as logging into a system and getting dark blue text on black background >:(
 
How is it that that is the default on a fresh Ubuntu install? I get dark blue text in both ls and vim
If I'm not mistaken, the Ubuntu shell always has dark background
 
11:51 AM
Its always white on black IIRC
 
Gah, the next problem
$TIME echo "1"
(echo "2")
time (echo "3")
$TIME (echo "4")
In this snippet, TIME is set to time
The idea is being able to optionally pass the command executed in the subshell through time to measure speed
Sadly, only lines 1-3 work :P
 
"I don't think this has anything to do with Scala.. I'm currently having the same problem with passing an argument which contains parentheses into a grails command. Apparently this is a problem with the windows shell, have tried escaping the characters "(" but that does not work :/"
hope this helps ;)
I only did the search, not the research, so I most likely cannot answer follow-up questions
 
12:09 PM
@Kristian I'm in bash though
 
I'm sorry. I didn't read up. I'm bad, please forgive me..
 
 
1 hour later…
1:13 PM
Wee, just submitted our Windows Phone app \o/
Now we're on Android, BlackBerry10, iOS and Windows Phone 8
 
Weird stuff to think when waking up. Cats in space , how would they deal with zero gravity? bounce off the walls?
 
Greetings all, this is my first time on SU, so, first of all, I just wanna ask, if this is the place to ask about firefox not opening .org websites?
 
It is unlikely that cats or dogs dominating the earth would have ever made it out to space. Leaving it up to the humans to (once again) do the pets bidding.
 
@DroidDev yes, just make sure it is all clear, and full question, that also might show some effort made by you to fix it.
 
1:18 PM
@Psycogeek actually, I just wanted to get some help from chat
I have cleared tried to clear cache, history, restart firefox
my firefox version is 30.0 and OS is linux, saucy salamander
thought, maybe someone could help me on SU
so came here
 
@DroidDev: any .org site?
 
@JourneymanGeek yes, any site, that is .org, firefox just keep spinning the loader for sometime and after that show me a blank page
 
I suppose it would be, though some troubleshooting steps may help - include output from traceroute and/or ping.
 
What is meant by not opening? There are the methods for adding the Dotstuff to the address when typing it into the address bar location. Are you positive in this case that there is no .org.com stuff there?
 
Bob
@DroidDev Is it just FF?
Does an alternative browser work?
Does ping work? Does nslookup or dig work?
 
1:23 PM
@Bob yes, chrome is working for same
 
Bob
brb hopping to laptop
 
Does it work when clicking on a link or history item
 
@Psycogeek no, it doesn't
let me dig in some more...
 
Bob
@DroidDev Hold shift while launching FF to start it in Safe Mode. Try then.
 
@Bob ok, trying that way
 
Bob
1:25 PM
That will (temporarily) disable all addons and plugins.
 
accidental *.org blockages via a wildcard addition to a blocking script
 
Bob
If it works, then you have a rogue extension.
 
I just installed some extensions today, was trying to invert color in firefox through themes
was unable to achieve that, but, now, websites won't open
disabling extensions now
 
Bob
@DroidDev That's the other thing: when something "suddenly" stops working, think of what you changed recently.
What did you install?
 
@Bob Greasemonkey, BlankYourMonitor
two extensions I just installed
 
Bob
1:27 PM
@DroidDev Check what GM userscripts you have running.
Never heard of BYM.
But, yea, test Safe Mode first.
 
@OliverSalzburg brilliant!
 
@Bob This is first time I ever installed GM, never played with any scripts...
I tried pinging pastie.org
result is:
--- pastie.org ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 21653ms
another result
--- userscript.org ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 5 received, 16% packet loss, time 5003ms
but, these won't open on browser
 
@OliverSalzburg Is the app or app type a secret? or do we get to know the name or type of app that it is? a link to the play store ?
 
@Psycogeek It's named "FairManager": fairmanager.de/android
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Hmm, something looks familiar :P
 
1:34 PM
@OliverSalzburg ahh description is not full, must watch video.
 
@OliverSalzburg I also code in Android. Just a piece of advice if you don't mind. Shouldn't you try to add something more in description :)
 
@Psycogeek Yeah, people who need the app usually don't care about descriptions, they know what it does already ;)
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg What happened to the in-browser one?
 
@Bob What do you mean? We still have a web interface, the app goes with the whole setup
 
Bob
Ah.
Did you manage to fix the zooming?
 
1:39 PM
@DroidDev what about the safe mode thing , which will flat disable all the added stuff, and at least point to it being an added item
 
@Bob Oh that. Yeah that was for a specific module of the whole setup. I did fix zooming but there were actually several more related issues
Like, you can long-press to get the context menu, then you press "show source" and, voila, you have the browser in a state where it's completely useless
 
@DroidDev Which indicates that your net connection is able to connect to such sites, although the speed of which is so poor there might be some packets bouncing around , and through stuff (router?) that is not connecting quickly to that? 21 seconds might as well be days :-)
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg lol
@Psycogeek Or userscripts.org is just being a useless piece of shit as usual.
 
Well TESTING then should be via some known .org entity, that 50,000 people are not on and has a real server
 
@Psycogeek not working on that either...
@Psycogeek actually, speed is not poor, I am on 2MBps leased line
@Psycogeek pastie.org, its not working either
 
1:46 PM
How about google.org
 
@Psycogeek ya! that opened!
 
So its not all .orgs, its just those two
 
Bob
userscripts.org is broken more often than not
 
ahh
@DroidDev: Userscripts.org is not loading promptly for me either
However its timing out politely
 
trying to find how the pings are working from command line, but site not loading...
 
Bob
1:48 PM
5 mins ago, by Bob
@Psycogeek Or userscripts.org is just being a useless piece of shit as usual.
 
@JourneymanGeek pings are quite good for it though
 
Well pings and web service are different things
 
Bob
Ping is ICMP over IP.
 
OH
is it down for everyone maybe?
 
Bob
A web browser uses HTTP over TCP over IP.
There's any number of possible discrepancies.
To start with, the webserver software could be down.
 
1:49 PM
isup.me <--- may be useful @DroidDev
da
 
Bob
Then there's firewalls treating ICMP and TCP differently (though usually they allow only the latter through)
 
@JourneymanGeek it said, "its just you, pastie.org is up"
 
@DroidDev: So we're from "all ,org websites" to a single one
 
@Bob yea in 1990 a person could ping anything, nowdays many servers try to block such things.
some servers will allow a few pings, then dump ya , when you do it a few times. (from my perspective what is occuring back there i do not know).
So i have at times applied mini pings :-) 1 byte (or bit) lenght and one send.
 
2:05 PM
@JourneymanGeek ya, sorry about my nuisance
 
Naw, just pointing out the obvious ;p
 
still, trying to troubleshoot though...
 
2:41 PM
2 questions have come up recent, where they are saying that computer platforms do not support 64bit. Apparently they are the smaller platforms? atom RT and such? Seems weird to be years into 64bit , and to see new hardware comming out with no support for it? (when pentium II had 64bit instruction according to stuff i was reading)
 
Atom has done 64 bit for years
the only 'current' 32 bit x86 platform is probably via, if they still make them
 
And laptops and tablets?
 
Arqade question titles...
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Q: I imprisoned my wife: if I exile her, will we be still married?

LohorisSince my wife had the annoying habit of murdering my spymasters, I've decided it was time for her to experience the dungeons. Now I've noticed I've basically four options: execute her exile her release her do nothing Considering she hasn't great stats and does't bring any alliance, I think g...

 
@Psycogeek: still true ;p
Its usually 64 bit capable, even if the preinstalled OS isn't
 
One is talking about a UEFI that is 32bit, i am like HOW? how the heck does a new enough to have a UEFI basic software for the hardware and somehow not be able to boot to 64bit oses?
 
2:45 PM
Thats just odd
 
@JourneymanGeek That was my first thought, just because it came that way, doesnt mean it has to stay that way.
 
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A: How can I conditionally pass a subshell through 'time'?

Stéphane ChazelasTo be able to time a subshell, you need the time keyword, not command. The time keyword, part of the language, is only recognised as such when entered literally. Even entering "time" won't work let alone $TIME (and would be taken as a call to the time command instead). You could use aliases her...

Great answer
 
3:40 PM
people with severe spelling impairments should not be allowed to be developers
 
3:52 PM
I have a friend who is doing just fine with severe spelling difficulties
he's very dependant on the VS autocomplete tho..
 
Bob
@allquixotic Discrimininination!
 
He's would never be able to spell discrimination.
 
Bob
@Kristian Heck, I can (usually) spell just fine, but I also heavily rely on IDE autocomplete.
The alternative is alt+tabbing to the docs every other line.
 
My friend, that is. I'm sure @Bob is perfectly capable of putting letters together in a meaningful fashion.
I dont think he believes in docs.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Did you see the stuff on .NET databinding?
 
3:56 PM
he believes in IWILLCODETHISSH*TFROMTHEBOTTOMUPIFINEEDTO
 
Bob
@Kristian Eh, I've developed the habit of searching NuGet et al. before starting something.
 
@Bob being able to spell the top 2000 or so most-frequently-used English words is an entirely different matter from being able to spell (or remember) DefaultAbstractEnterpriseAdapterBeanFactory.
 
incidentally, that's also what his variablenames look like :P
 
Bob
Don't need to reinvent the wheel. It'd probably end up square.
 
@Bob no?
 
Bob
3:57 PM
@allquixotic You know INotifyPropertyChanged?
 
@Bob I was slightly kidding, he is a .NET developer, after all
 
@Bob I know that it exists -- what about it?
 
They never invent anything, they just pull it from the framework :b
 
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