108 MB , for a driver/software package that 15 years ago would work correct and was 35K for the driver and 350K for the software :-) (or around there somewhere) I hope all this work they are doing pays off someday
It would take much time to get a full user concencus of which driver is most likely to be usable, that was 2 people. or if you can follow the numbers. like 16.999 might be the last one with the bugs removed, and 17.01 is new feature bugs added.
You should be ecstatic , look at the bright side , your not 35million light years from earth, running out of oxygen , with the computer saying "I am sorry dave"
Above all dont let the machines win, you saw planet of the apes right? see they got lasy let the apes win :-)
For hardware you can hard test the systems with benchie things that will beat the heck out of each of the components. after passing those tests, it pretty much has to be a software issue. Then you could try and run in a "safe" mode, to see if it ever does it there. Cant get much done there, but the viruses and malware are less likely to be running.
If you were posting a question about it on SU, you would want to relate exactally what you see and hear when it happens. exactally what your doing before it happens, what the hardware and processor and gpu chips are
@hichris123 whos ram test? you know MSes own is uselss for seeing tiny errors at speed, unfortunate as it is, only memtest86 from a boot disk beats the heck out of ram and will see the smallest of errors and cook it enough to cause them if it is a cooling problem.
Plus it takes like 12 hours of it to be 100% sure, but a quick jump to tests 5-7 and getting through that at least once fully should be enough to go on.
Prime95 type thing can find both fairly quick too. run the torture test on small FFT it will peel the paint off your heatsink :-) Really must monitor CPU temps before using that trick. Then go to Custom torture and change "memory to use" to most of your Available memory. If it passes both of those, it is 110% stable hardware.
Furmark, or OCCT have render tests for GPUs. like 10 minutes of that, the GPU processing capability is probably not acting up. then must also do the "error" or "artifacts" testing which beats on the video ram.
Once all that is done, you shoudlnt have to do it again for Years :-)
and lastly, but probably should be FIrst, run smart tests on the drives. then do 15 minutes of bench testing of them. If a drive fails to process i/o from/to the operating system , it can lock up the whole computer.
Once that stuff all shows up ok, it almost has to be some aspects of the software, even if hardware is involved
so this being a software test, you peel all the octopuss of crap you have connected to the compter on the outside. like printers, and net cards, and flash sticks and external boxes, and nas and all. the USb external drive and all. that stuff doesnt usually Freeze the computer because it is plugged in (other than drives) , but without it plug in the drivers will not be running for it.
So all the easy to remove hardware items that would have caused such problems are out of the picture.
It is crasy to hear that some external HUB item bought cheap will cause some problem, when it is likely to be drivered by microsofts own. soo that can be temporarily detached to insure that is not the problems.
safe mode turned off everything else because in safe mode one thing is "run' & "runonce" and and start menu startup stuff does not run (for the most part).
if you do tear it apart be sure to take pictures :-)
I must be ready for bed, I just tried to make a batch to end Iexplorer when it ENDS , duhh, the problem is it doesnt end so a /Wait is not going to do anything.
It must be the one thing they cant make smaller and fit on the head of a pin. They need the carbon nonotube electromagnetic photon induction magnometer.
They should probably get that gravity things figured out first though, or all the pixels will be stuck at the bottom of the screen :-)
Ahh i know, instead of ending iexplorer when it does not end right, i can end it before opening it (and they thought i was crasy). that just leaves it hanging around in between, half broken and exploitable.
One of the few things i let through the firewall, broken and , dont they Pay $1000 for finding exploits in the system? and better yet dont they then Patch them up with updates when announced to the public?
@soph-e In IE10 &IE11 when you select to have the previous session automtically re-opened, IE hangs on exit, leaving at least 2 processes of itself running.
@Boris that type of thing feels more like advertising for the website/company...each of the people who go there to vote might stick around to discover/browse the site/company/products, etc
@Psycogeek Interesting. And you found that to be exploitable?
When these leftover processes are still running, the previous session is ignored.
@soph-e No But if i try hard enough :-), IE is probably already exploitable. It is just that many times before exploits have been based on crashing things, then thier security being gone or useless. because it screws up itself, only the other half of the exploit needs to be done :-)
there is already a broken windowless process just sitting there waiting for the right virus to come along and use it as a door to the web.
