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12:26 AM
@Hennes @JourneymanGeek @Bob Well finally managed to find a camera, so here's a pic of the label of my psu and here's a pic of the one I can get from the UK,2 pics of mine due to crap quality
anybody else think those few differences at the AC input part is enough to make one worry, sorry I couldn't lighten the 2 pics, this 7 netbook doesn't have that basic function in it's picture viewer
 
Obvious problem. Your psu is 110v only. The new one is 220v only.
This is odd. Never seen a psu with neither a switch nor a wide working range
 
100-127/220-240v is not 110 only
 
New psu will not work with a 110v power outlet
 
Back to the drawing board
 
My bad. Using my phone :)
 
12:39 AM
at least with a pic up of the label it will be easier to match the specs
Ah understandable
Ill be honest, using this netbook is almost a painful as using a phone to chat on here
 
"This is odd. Never seen a PSU with neither a switch nor a wide working range". Neither have I. There is always a switch... well, at least that is what I assumed till today.
 
it appears we are the only ones in the chat right now
or not
Ok so I'm not the only one to pick up on the differences
I sent another message off to the seller see if I can get anything from him on it
 
1:00 AM
so any more thoughts on the psu
 
Keyboard and 7 inch screen is better than a 4.3 inch screen
 
Just buy any cheap PSU near you. ATX formfactor is a standard, it does not have to be the precise same one. A generic 350 Watt PSU will also do (assuming they do sell those nearby, or that you 1000+ PSU person from work has some.
And if you ever are going to upgrade and build your own PC, then grab a good one which you can use in the new PC.
Assuming that will happen within a year or two. Else do not bother
 
Bob
1:17 AM
@Hennes ...my main desktop PSU is 240 only. cheap chinese thing.
I think it was 650W. Only a year old.
 
1:44 AM
@Hennes did you forget the past week and a half of trying to figure out what's wrong and trying to fix it
 
2:25 AM
yup
@Bob: I used to get cheap no name PSUs and just swap em ;p
only on the last two builds have I been getting 'brand name' PSUs
though, after the last build I am sold on modular PSUs
 
3:02 AM
calls the person asking for clarification a jackass while he himself acts like one :\
 
Bob
3:50 AM
> If it is canceled, the Wait returns false (False in Visual Basic).
but it's a void method
 
@Bob I'm pretty sure it's referring to this Wait method.
 
Bob
@allquixotic thanks.
still, that remark probably shouldn't be there..
 
or the remark could be clarified by linking to that other method
 
Bob
but that's an implementation detail
that is never exposed to anyone using WaitAll
 
4:57 AM
> I asked this question on programmers.stackexchange.com but got no answer.
so you posted in Web Applications?
dafuq?
 
Bob
5:16 AM
lolol
@Sathya what was the question?
 
-4
Q: PHP vs. ASP.NET(C#)? Which one is better?

Sandy Lee_user53167I asked this question on programmers.stackexchange.com but got no answer. The comparison is very general and abstract. I've set a certain criteria where they need to be compared : Compatibility API(s) Cost Availability of references/docs Coding Simplicity Performance Security Scope for develop...

 
Bob
well, I guess *webapps*
-_-
kinda understandable. assuming he has some phobia of FAQs.
 
-.-
 
6:03 AM
hmm
windows 7 without an install key will run in trial mode for a while right?
/me needs a VM to test something
 
Bob
6:38 AM
for 30 days
up to 90 or 120 if you rearm
 
ahh
not going to need to rearm
 
@JourneymanGeek yes
 
neat
feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/vip/~3/nbiqZKlmKPI/… the hardware side of this looks vaguely scary
 
@Sathya No wonder the PHP code you see on the web is so bad… it's written by 12 year olds.
 
6:54 AM
lol
 
7:22 AM
Hey, I'm on my LG quantum! IE 9 mobile loads this page but takes forever and doesn't scale this page right.
Sure isn't as fast as my full sized keyboards :p
Anyone know what I would need to append to the chat URL to get a mobile version?
 
you'd need to clock on the mobile button
then it remembers
 
you mean on the main site?
 
on the chat page
 
The main site works well , the mobile version doesn't account for mods lol IIRC
that mobile link has been hiding all this time!
Mucho better. :p thanks @journeymangeek
 
lol
the mobile site is wanting IMO
 
7:29 AM
Very... I wish the enter key on my phone would let me send messages
But this phone is my newest piece of tech and sooo smart for being 3 years old!
 
oh, that's a problem with chat I was bitching about for ages
 
I got it for around $35 lol. Works great with no sim card.
 
7:56 AM
nice!
 
8:09 AM
 
I swear MS just hates it when anyone does better than them ;p
 
true
 
Bob
8:26 AM
@Sathya ok, I just read it.. wat.
PHP is free and ASP.NET isn't? What.
wtf..
I'm not sure that even applies.
C# tutorials generally aren't free??
I give up.
@studiohack also, replying to messages. starring. flagging
seeing what other messages are replying to
 
@Bob :P
 
@Sathya Thumbs up
 
Bob
came across this today
see the second footnote
what's so special about the numlock key? :S
2
 
9:06 AM
LOL
no clue
I have the same keyboard though
 
9:24 AM
NUMLOCK has an LED?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek so does scrollock..
 
its the only thing I can think of ;p
 
 
1 hour later…
10:35 AM
Morning
 
@Hennes morning
 
Wow, that logical keyboard needs no software to work. And that logitech mouse does not need any extra software either. Lets put that in large letters next to it!
 
Bob
@Hennes it's actually pretty small letters on the back of the box :P
 
11:08 AM
Hmm, weird:
Cosmic ray spallation is a form of naturally occurring nuclear fission and nucleosynthesis. It refers to the formation of elements from the impact of cosmic rays on an object. Cosmic rays are highly energetic charged particles from outside of Earth ranging from protons, alpha particles, and nuclei of many heavier elements. About 1% of cosmic rays also consist of free electrons. Cosmic rays cause spallation when a ray particle (e.g. a proton) impacts with matter, including other cosmic rays. The result of the collision is the expulsion of large numbers of nucleons (protons and neutrons) f...
I was just reading up on Boron. (element #5, used to shield nukes from neutron flux)
Apparently it is created by "Cosmic ray spallation". So I read that article.
blah blah blah.... as an theerory to create deuterium.... which did not work... blah blah. First picture: Nucleosynthesis of deuterium.
 
11:25 AM
@JourneymanGeek They could just cut the middle part out of a broken cable. ;-)
 
@Hennes: yeah, thats one option
or pick a side and take a risk
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...old joke? :\
 
Bob
@Hennes no. No. NO. Nononono nonononono nonononononononono
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11:32 AM
Aren;t regular expressions always a puzzle ?
 
Bob
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@Hennes too much regex in one place
 
I thought I was the only person who hated them ;p
 
Bob
excuse me while I go pour bleach in my eyes
eh, regex is alright when applied sparingly
but a crossword is going too far
 
;p
as is using it to parse XML?
 
Bob
..
xpath + regex works
(regex on the attribute/element/node value, not the raw XML)
 
11:41 AM
;p I think its a running joke too
 
@Hennes Damn, that is both fearful and intriguing. Just like when you are standing near the edge of a cliff and you don't want to look over but you have to
 
/me grins
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah. If the language you are using doesn't have a full xml parser library then it is time to switch languages, not dig out regex
 
Bob
@Paul you're all assuming well-formed XML :P
 
@Bob Then it isn't XML? :)
 
Bob
11:47 AM
there's plenty of HTML (which that famous question was about, IIRC) that is so broken it barely renders - and only cause browser developers spent far too much time fixing errors
 
Yeah, but lots of parsers are kind too, so will cope with the nonsense
 
Bob
@Paul I dunno; never tried reading HTML outside of a browser/JS
@OliverSalzburg perhaps.
 
@OliverSalzburg Copyright at the bottom says 2012
 
Bob
this is my go-to example of WTF WHO DESIGNED THIS SHIT
 
11:50 AM
@Paul I got a mail saying Ryan Schostag has invited you to join Twitter
 
Bob
also, appears to require Quicktime and WMP plugins o.O
 
Which I found weird because I would have assumed that implies he knows my email address
 
@OliverSalzburg Freaky
The email wasn't from twitter?
 
@Paul No, it was from Twitter alright
 
@Bob That is nasty
 
Bob
11:53 AM
ah, yea. this is where it came from:
Aug 15 '12 at 11:01, by Tom Wijsman
Unrelated, these are two fun bug reports to read: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765645 https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=50696
 
@OliverSalzburg Well don't hesitate!
 
Bob
the first one
 
So... his Facebook page says he's the "General Manager of StarLevelEvent", and on the page above he's "one of our most prized in-house producers" who you can book for 30 minute keyboard lessons via Skype...
Sounds like a hot business
 
he's probably the only person who works there
 
Seems like he also runs invitahealth.com
I seriously need to get in on that internet money business...
 
11:57 AM
@Bob Yes. Nutters are nutty.
 
Gifts \o/
 
I am compiling KDE 4.10. I am doing this on Friday to give me time to fix everything by Monday
 
@OliverSalzburg Want another one ?
 
@HackToHell Will I like it? :D
 
it's dota 2 -_-
 
12:00 PM
I've got the original Portal still sitting in my gift queue if anyone wants it
 
me wants !
 
@HackToHell Oh :D
 
If you want to give it
 
I have a copy of Torchlight
 
12:01 PM
@HackToHell Sure... what is your steam id?
 
I'd probably trade that for a copy of torchlight 2 ;p
(or anything I don't have, for that matter)
 
;p
bad that?
I have portal
 
@HackToHell I think you have to accept my friend request - paulkioan
paulkoan
 
@Paul Accepted !
Thanks btw
 
12:06 PM
I wish Steam had circles like in G+ :P
 
@HackToHell No worries :)
 
Steam groups are really annoying
 
I somehow have Wil Wheaton as a friend on Steam
 
12:07 PM
@Paul :) :)
Damn Steam crashed again
 
never happens to me
 
really ?
 
Nope steam doesn't crash on me either
 
Steam has groups?
 
12:09 PM
I just use it to play games
 
same here ;p
 
whee got portal thanks to @Paul !!!!!!!
 
@HackToHell Heh. That was cool. Next time I am on chat I shall gift a mystery game to the first person who wants it. Again it will be a game that everyone has already got.
 
XDXDXD
 
do any of you guys want dota 2 ?
 
12:15 PM
yeah
 
@Paul :)
 
you want hoard or torchlight 2? ;p
 
I actually got it for free
 
both are from 4 packs I got dirt cheap, and have for trading ;p
 
And I am trying to find my gifts page
 
12:17 PM
its under games -> manage gifts and guest passes
 
But you have it already
 
I do?
o0
when did I get it?
 
Oh, I do...
 
12:20 PM
XD
offer still stands
 
@HackToHell Huh? You just gifted me dota2?!
 
@paul I have like 15 in my inventory
 
Heh, thanks. You liked it so much you got 15?
 
@JourneymanGeek how ?
 
12:22 PM
@Paul no, I got it for free
 
which one do you want? ;p
 
zomg this is real, torchlight !
THANKS @JourneymanGeek
 
now i have a lot of games to play during the holidays \o/
 
always happy to spread spare awesome ;p
 
12:25 PM
WHEE LUCKY DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Oh right!
someone linked that Romanian site with the DOTA keys
 
no, not from that, Valve sent it to me
 
I mean, that's how I got it ;p
 
ah :P
 
hmm, have to be at the customer site in 90 minutes :P guess I better get off my computer, take a shower and get on the road :D
 
1:02 PM
Things one considers while showering. If I take any number which is a nine-fold then the sum of all digits is 9. Does that hold for all number N-1 in base N.
 
Bob
1:30 PM
@JourneymanGeek That was @WilliamHilsum, I think
 
Bob
@allquixotic something catch fire? :P
does anyone have a Windows XP machine handy?
if so, could they run the ver command and tell me the output?
 
not any more ;p
 
Bob
(it should print the current major, minor and build numbers)
actually, any Windows OS older than Vista
 
1:53 PM
@Bob I got a VM
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg if it's going to be any trouble, please don't bother :P
 
Because I just came by that after reading superuser.com/questions/548401/…
 
Bob
honestly, at this point I'm uncertain whether find or parsing by spaces with for is uglier
@OliverSalzburg guess why I was asking :P
 
@Bob I was a bit suspicious ;)
 
Bob
heh. looks like it's not consistent after all
 
1:56 PM
It's a Geman version as well
 
Bob
When in doubt, use PowerShell! :P
powershell -c [System.Environment]::OSVersion.Version.Major
if that's 6, then it's Vista or newer
 
@Bob Prints 5 on the same machine
 
assuming it has powershell
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg as it should :P
 
I wonder if wmic might be more consistant
 
1:58 PM
@JourneymanGeek It's automatically installed by Windows Update though
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek eh. if it doesn't, it's over a decade old and I don't care anymore
 
@Bob Just wanted to confirm it while the VM is still running ;D
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg I think you need to install it manually on XP
 
@Bob I only installed on this machine what Windows suggested
 
Bob
1:59 PM
@JourneymanGeek Probably. I vaguely recall doing this before with wmic
 
It's the VM I use to test from "customer view"
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg i.e. upgrade-your-damn-os-that's-likely-teeming-with-malware
gotta love running everything elevated
 
Well, I needed a German machine on my network, but I install all my machines with en_us
 
would a version number do?
 
And I only had spare XP licences
 
2:00 PM
wmic os get Version
also try wmic os get Name
 
@JourneymanGeek csname is also nice
Just wmic os get|findstr "XP" ;P
 
os get is messy though
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek nice.
 
might as well just get the string you need
 
Bob
for /f "skip=1 tokens=1,2,3 delims=." %a in ('wmic os get Version') do echo Major: %a Minor: %b Revision: %c
huh. there's a blank line after it
damn.
well, in a batch script, just jump out of the for :P
@OliverSalzburg I don't like this approach :\
with a number, it's easy to do a > check
 
2:08 PM
@Bob I wasn't serious
 
Bob
listing every OS name is tedious and not future-proof :P
 
wmic os get also contains the user and company name
 
depends on what you need ;p
 
2:43 PM
And now, AFK to shop. ;-)
 
2:53 PM
What did I just google for O___O
What the... that's the guy who wrote "Somewhere over the rainbow"
 
@OliverSalzburg Oh god there's even "more images"
 
@Tanner I'm currently a bit shocked about myself. Going from "wtf is that" to "oh, wow, it's that guy" :P
 
@OliverSalzburg that is not something I wanted to see when I got out of the shower
 
@user88311 Well, "IZ" seems to be a popular name among musicians :P
 
3:06 PM
It wasn't the result I expected either
 
Man I swear hen lives in the middle of a shopping distrct, afk to shop, man makes me want to move back to my old home
district*
@OliverSalzburg When I first came back to my screen I was like, this has got to be some bad joke, then I see over the rainbow and just go wtf
 
@user88311 Yeah, I know what you mean :D
 
Pretty bad-ass interpretation, that's for sure
 
best solution to get overlay notifications for Pidgin in Windows? Go!
 
3:10 PM
Yeah it's actually a really good one haha
 
@klyonrad: growl?
 
If I remember right anyway. Don't have headphones to listen...
 
@JourneymanGeek I thought Growl was more invented for OS X....
 
877
Q: Blank screen if kids yell too much

Leonid VolnitskyMy kids (4 and 5) yell a lot when playing games on computer. I found an effective cure for this. I ssh into game computer and do: chvt 3; sleep 15; chvt 7 when I hear loud noises. This will turn off screen for 15 seconds on linux. I've told them that computer doesn't like loud noises. They ...

now the highest voted question in Super User history, yet
 
3:13 PM
Grr... Notifications on Windows suck.
 
odd is't it
@klyonrad: there's no unified notification method yet
 
@JourneymanGeek except for Win8 Metro Apps
 
I want to upvote it, but I can't. It just... has too many upvotes already.
NO CLIPPY I DON'T!
 
@Tanner omg how did you generate that?
 
say "I want to XXX"
 
3:19 PM
35
A: What Easter Eggs do the chat sites have?

Popular DemandMeta Stack Overflow/(any room): red tags Send a message consisting solely of [status-SOME_PLAINTEXT_STRING] and it will appear in chat like a moderator tag. Doing this as a reply to another message is okay, but other text or formatting will not work. Gaming/The Bridge: minigame Eggs.Asteroids...

 
3:35 PM
I did it the other night when I said I want to find a cheap replacement psu, at first thought I went into word to disable clippy then realized I was in chrome
[status-SOME_PLAINTEXT_STRING]
Aw it didn't work
wait
[status-SOME_PLAINTEXT_STRING]
 
that's only on Meta Stack Overflow
 
Fail
 
I need lunch
 
@user88311 Nah. I just live 300 meters from a supermarket, and about 500 meters from another.
I want to kill clippy..... would I like some help with that?
 
3:46 PM
I'm game
 
Now suddenly the internet is filled with Harlem Shake videos, strange shit
 
@Hennes I just noticed something, the second half of your message about clippy is a contradiction upon itself, either that or a sign of a split personalty
 
Try typing the first half and see who pops up to help you :)
@HackToHell Earthquackes or other shakes?
 
I want to kill clippy
Ah right now I see
 
4:07 PM
Will I be flogged if I ask a Windows XP question?
 
hahaha
 
hehe
 
you can ask, really ;p
 
Maybe I'll bounce it off you guys first, it's kind of... broad? I dunno. I've got this XP box in a VM that won't connect to my Win 7 share.
net use says no network path
but I'm using an IP address
it'll connect to other machines, just not mine >_>
It can ping mine
 
4:20 PM
@Tanner Good luck with that!
3
Q: "Network path was not found" when trying to access a file share

IsziThis is for a Windows XP SP3 machine, trying to access file shares on a Windows Server 2008 R2 system. The client had access to the server previously, and other clients on the same network are not having problems. Other network functions for the troubled client do not seem to be affected. When...

Maybe not so much luck is needed after all :P
 
Wow.
That's a nice answer too. =D
 
@Tanner Self-answer even
 
4:34 PM
No joy. I'm just going to copy it from my 7 machine to a 2003 machine and then back to the XP. >_>
Stupid Windows...
 
"I can't see computer XYZ in my network" and "I can't access share XYZ in my network" are two problems that will never be fully solved :P
 
"I can't see computer XYZ" is easily solvable. It's when you throw NetBIOS and SMB in there that stuff gets retarded.
Never had a problem with FTP or DNS. At least one I didn't create.
 
@Tanner If you think it's easily solvable then you haven't seen enough causes yet
 
What have you run in to?
 
Often enough, I wasn't able to solve it, so, I have no idea :D
There's always the ever-popular Windows firewall
I completely lost hope once I saw this troubleshooter: winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
My biggest issue with the whole "I can't see computer XYZ" is, I don't even know how that part of Windows works
There's some legacy NetBIOS stuff going on, but we hardly ever use that. So, there's most likely some UDP broadcasting going on. But I have no idea about the specifics
And then, to complicate the matter slightly, there are two concepts of "network discovery" in Windows as it seems. There's the part that keeps track of computers on your domain/workgroup (in the shape of the Computer Browser service). And there's the network discovery component that generates the map in the sharing center
 
4:49 PM
Yeah all those features are crap and worthless. =D Punch in the FQDN and go...
 
@Tanner Indeed
Network shares and "seeing computers on the network" aren't features I rely on at all
As they are literally unreliable :P
 
haha yeah
 

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