Root Access

Oliver Salzburg

12:01 AM

Do I have to use double-quotes?

Nope

Hennes

hmm, not a user of zip, but .... * peers at script *

allquixotic

"zip file empty" tells me that, somehow, the shell is expanding your * characters

Oliver Salzburg

@Hennes I'd be happy about a solution with any other compression tool

allquixotic

I can't see why it would, but it seems to be, because what's basically getting execed is zip -r ignored /var/www/garbage -i

I have a debug thing you can try

Hennes

What do you get when you replace zip with echo ?

Oliver Salzburg

12:04 AM

@allquixotic To my understanding, that's why I should use single-quotes

allquixotic

replace zip in the command line with the name of an executable script, e.g. ./test.sh which simply prints out the command line arguments to stdout and exits

Oliver Salzburg

per the zip manpage, you have to quote the arguments with single quotes ... otherwise, I suspect that the shell will glob them before passing to zip — kdgregory Jul 11 '09 at 0:17

@allquixotic Good thinking! Let me try

./compile-ignored.sh: line 5: test: too many arguments

So it expands it in the script?

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg gist.github.com/allquixotic/4964682

compile with gcc and try that instead of your script

in place of zip

eliminates all shell expansion possibility

Oliver Salzburg

gcc complains

test.c: In function âmainâ:
test.c:6: error: âforâ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
test.c:6: note: use option -std=c99 or -std=gnu99 to compile your code
test.c:10: error: âexitâ undeclared (first use in this function)
test.c:10: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
test.c:10: error: for each function it appears in.)
test.c:10: error: expected â;â before numeric constant

allquixotic

of course it does. air code. untested :P

so add -std=c99

no idea why exit isn't part of the C library, but you can comment it out and change int to void in the main() signature

Hennes

12:10 AM

uhm, why an exit(0) ?

allquixotic

err, I meant return.

blah

Hennes

Isn;t that "EMERGENCY! BAILING OUT! Erorr code: all if fine" ?

Oliver Salzburg

Alright

allquixotic

exit is a function, not a statement, I meant return lol

Hennes

OK, I was typing and about to suggest return :)

Oliver Salzburg

12:11 AM

Now I'm using a highly-efficient C implementation of my test.sh

./compile-ignored.sh: line 5: test: too many arguments

The result remains :D

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg you didn't get that before, so what happened?

Hennes

Which bash ? A modern bash and a modern kernel?

Ariane

Can someone help me disable automatic video playback in VLC media player? I (maybe) found how to do it, but I don't understand the instructions very well.

Oliver Salzburg

5 mins ago, by Oliver Salzburg

./compile-ignored.sh: line 5: test: too many arguments

Hennes

Old one had limits, which could be worked around with xargs

Oliver Salzburg

12:12 AM

I replaced zip with test in my script

allquixotic

test? No, not literally test!

Oliver Salzburg

First I had a test.sh which only had echo $@

allquixotic

test is a command that... err... tests for stuff

Oliver Salzburg

...

Jeeze

allquixotic

gcc -o pcae -std=c99 pcae.c

then replace zip with ./pcae

comment out or remove the echo line

so it should be ./pcae -r ignored $directory -i $pattern after you get done your awk mechanations

Oliver Salzburg

12:15 AM

argument 0: ./pcae
argument 1: -r
argument 2: ignored
argument 3: /var/www/haseke.hartwig-at.de/typo3/fileadmin
argument 4: -i
argument 5: 'daten'
argument 6: '*.dxf'
argument 7: '*.jpg'
argument 8: '*.pdf'
argument 9: '*.png'
argument 10: '*.psd'
argument 11: '*.stp'
argument 12: '*.zip'

Seems fine

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg there; now the program is working, and it looks like the arguments were passed properly

Oliver Salzburg

Doesn't it?

allquixotic

one problem

the ' is supposed to be interpreted by the shell and discarded. Arguments 5 through 12 should be passed to pcae without the ' around them.

Oliver Salzburg

Oh what the...

allquixotic

The way you have it, zip is looking for a file named, literally, '*.dxf'

including the single quotes

Oliver Salzburg

12:18 AM

...and it works

You're awesome

allquixotic

The reason it is warning you that the zip file is empty is that none of the files in your current directory contain a file name that matches the file names supplied, because the single quotes were being treated as part of the file name.

So you removed the single quote additions from awk and it works, right?

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic Yeah

allquixotic

My two summers doing systems hacking with ACCESS on their embedded Linux-based OS come back to pay off dividends ;-)

Oliver Salzburg

I particularly took care of adding them before running it for the first time

allquixotic

It was 50% shell script, 50% C code, and 100% argv type stuff

Oliver Salzburg

12:19 AM

Because I worked off of this:

8

A: how do I zip a whole folder tree in unix, but only certain files?

Switch into the website folder, then run zip -R foo '*.php' '*.html' '*.js' '*.css' You can also run this from outside the website folder: zip -r foo website_folder -i '*.php' '*.html' '*.js' '*.css'

So I was looking into joining lines from a file to a single string

Oh well, I'm happy it's done :D

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic eheh. That's the combo I got.

allquixotic

Glad I could be of assistance. You've helped me before.

Hennes

@ariane:

Ariane

@Hennes Thanks. Can't believe I missed something so obvious.

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes SB/IB shouldn't have that issue. The older integrated adaptors were hung off the same PCIe lane the video card was supposed to be. It wasn't a dell only thing

Ariane

12:22 AM

I was scared I was going to have to do registry edits.

Hennes

The trick is setting the bottom part to 'all'. Which is easy to miss

allquixotic

Whoa

Journeyman Geek

@Ariane: for a certain value of 'obvious'

allquixotic

HackToHell (under the alias gowtham) asked to add me to his steam friends list

Journeyman Geek

technically its the other way around

Ariane

12:23 AM

Thing is, I did go through the "all" part a lot. I'm just blind.

allquixotic

I accepted his invite, of course. You guys have been nothing but helpful and welcoming since I came here.

Hennes

Ah, good old livejournal

zyalt.livejournal.com/722930.html

Now if I only could read russian

Ariane

Okaaaay. I have this huge 300 MB mov file from Final Cut Pro at school, and I want to save it so it doesn't take such an insane amount of space. Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 only shows sound when I import it into it, and the video in VLC's exported file hangs around the middle of the video, leaving only sound. Suggestions?

Journeyman Geek

hit it with handbrake?

ruda.almeida

@allquixotic The games on this page are on sale and they run on linux and windows store.steampowered.com/sale/linux_release

Journeyman Geek

12:34 AM

ffmpeg would be a good option (though I believe @slhck is RA/SU's resident ffmpeg expert) - I use a frontend called winff

Oliver Salzburg

allquixotic

@ruda.almeida it's basically the HIB games though, I already have most of those

Ariane

Annoying that I have one professional software and one very regarded open source software and none can do the job.

Hennes

I do not have much experience with converting with VLC. Just two failed conversions with vlc 1.x (and we are now at vlc 2)

But yeah, ffmpeg or handbrake should do. But I have no idea if those are available for windows.

allquixotic

@Ariane video file formats are very finnicky -- the "standards" aren't really standards, especially with proprietary ones or ones that have been around a long time, so programs often struggle with parsing or transcoding them correctly

@Hennes of course they are :P

ffmpeg, at least...

Ariane

12:36 AM

But seriously. Final Cut Pro is crap. Not only is it a pain to work with, but it can't even make okay files.

allquixotic

Sony Vegas Pro is one of the best at wrangling weird file types that I've seen

it sucks down about 6 GB of raw uncompressed FRAPS video into about 100 MB and uploads it to youtube, all in one step

Ariane

@allqui I'd have thought that Adobe, being pretty Apple friendly, would have zero problems opening files exported from Final Cut Pro, an Apple software. Nope!

And seriously, this video is all blurry, lasts one minute and a half and has an awfully small resolution. I wonder if it even tried to compress it a bit. >_>

allquixotic

@Ariane you'd probably have to use an official Apple product to compress it further or save it in a different file format without losing significant fidelity or having weird errors/bugs, but who knows, ffmpeg might be able to handle it; it's insanely advanced these days

ruda.almeida

@allquixotic I missed the first 2 HIBs, and a few games there (counter strike, etc) probably aren't from HIB. I might buy Lume, seems cool

allquixotic

I already own all the Valve games. I'll probably buy Serious Sam 3.

ruda.almeida

12:40 AM

Hey @Ariane, try videohelp.com/tools/XviD4PSP -- despite the name, it's not for PSP's and I usually get good results with it. The interface is kinda weird, but works.

Ariane

Trying HandBrake at the moment.

ruda.almeida

The site I linked is a good source for video tools -- videohelp.com/tools/sections/all-in-one-video-converters

Hennes

FTL is a great game. I love it

Anyone want easy rep ?

That was the SSD! I've put it on my other pc on and it crashed after 50mn. Really weird that delay... Anyway, I've changed the SSD and now the machine is on for 2 hours and it's fine! @Hennes: thanks, that was pretty basic troubleshouting but I hadn't thought about it! — Nabab 14 mins ago

Just copy the answers from my comments to an answer.

Ehm. superuser.com/questions/552629/…

Ariane

Is AAC a good audio format, or should I go with MP3?

(still for the video)

Hennes

Hmm, no idea. I always go with 'ogg' but I have no good reasoning except that it was legally nice

ruda.almeida

12:44 AM

@Ariane Good is subjective. You have to consider performance (for both encoding and decoding), universal support, legal issues, audio quality... That last item alone would take pages and pages of an audiophile forum.

Ariane

I know, but I don't wanna think, I want you to impose your opinion on me because I'm tired

And @Hennes OOG is not in the options.

Hennes

In that case I fall back to my lack of knowledge on this

Hmm. MP3 is nice and generic and hopefully well supported.

Ariane

The audio quality is very discutable to begin with, so smaller is better I guess.

ruda.almeida

@Hennes CBR or VBR? Stereo or Joint stereo? 128, 160 or 192 kbps? ID3 or APE tags? At the end or beginning of the file? with or without CRCs?

Hennes

I know this part: Audio takes only a fraction of the size of the video content.
So any big file size reduction comes from changing the video part

VBR

Ariane

12:48 AM

Okay, so. MP3 it is.

Hennes

Also ruda, it seems you are the expert: * Passes the task *

Ariane

Now... What is MP3 (lame) and MP3 Passthru?

Hennes

lame is an MP3 encoder

LAME

LAME is a free software codec used to encode/compress audio into the lossy MP3 file format. History The name LAME is a recursive acronym for "LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder". Around mid-1998, Mike Cheng created LAME 1.0 as a set of modifications against the "8Hz-MP3" encoder source code. After some quality concerns raised by others, he decided to start again from scratch based on the "dist10" MPEG reference software sources. His goal was only to speed up the dist10 sources, and leave its quality untouched. That branch (a patch against the reference sources) became Lame 2.0. The project q...

No idea about the other passthru

Ariane

When I click it it selects something else so I'll go with lame.

ruda.almeida

@Hennes I have spent a lot of time playing with it about 10~12 years ago when ripping DVDs was relatively a new art, and a few years later when I decided I wanted to be a video editor. I forgot most of it.

Ariane

12:50 AM

Heeeere!

300 MB -> 11 MB.

Hennes

Quite a reduction

ruda.almeida

@Ariane by just compressing the audio?!

Hennes

No, not only audio

Ariane

No, the whole video. o:

ruda.almeida

Oh.

Hennes

12:52 AM

MPEG layer 3 is also a video format

It also has stuff to compress sounds

what you remember as "MP3"'sare movies without pictures, just the sound tracks

Ariane

Sheesh. Either I,m going to hate video editing, either Final Cut is awful enough to make me hate it.

Hennes

(Well, ok, I cut quite a few corners in that sentence)

ruda.almeida

@Hennes "MP3 is an audio-specific format that was designed by the Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) as part of its MPEG-1 standard and later extended in MPEG-2 standard." -- Wikipedia, emphasis mine

Hennes

Aye. But MPEG is movie format.

and as I set, I cut quite a few corners.

Ariane

You guys are intense. I'm a person who's special in how so many things interest me, yet since yesterday, there've been two discussions about which I didn't care including this one. xD

ruda.almeida

12:56 AM

@Hennes MPEG is a series of standards that define audio and video formats (they even have their own ISO numeric standards bla blah); MPG video and MP3 audio are the most famous children born out of it

@Ariane As I said, I was quite into audio/video formats and encoding a few years ago. Nowadays I don't care that much, almost forgot about it all, until today

Ariane

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz3z3eiyzkqy0xh/Montage.mkv

Here. My first (and hopefully last -prays-) video edition. Note the AWESOME cameras we're supplied with and how I didn't even care to do something decent. Worst fake horror movie trailer ever!

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ?

ruda.almeida

@Ariane I have one course on Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and other on Final Cut Pro 7, and a little (few months) experience. It was a few years ago. Alhtough I prefer Premiere, I haven't found a reason to hate Final Cut

Ariane

I have plenty.

Bob

@DragonLord Not really; I haven't had much trouble. For transport, it's best if you get a metal (or even rigid plastic) tin.

Or one of those 'touch' mice, if you like them.

(or just don't crush it. or something padded)

Ariane

1:03 AM

No way to add the clips I cut to the library. Undo key is cmd-W (!) and doesn't even work. No right-click-and-drop. Non-intuitive menus. Buttons aren't even buttons, but that's Apple's usual awful designs. No export options apart from MOV. No way to manage things in an other way than one huge source file and one project file. Mac (this is at least 10 reasons). Decides to crash for no reason sometimes. Awful text options.

Even Flash feels much more natural. And trust me, I hate Flash.

Bob

lol

what are you doing, @Ariane?

ruda.almeida

@Ariane I'm downloading it (or trying to, my ISP decided today to be extra slow).

Here's a video I made a year ago on Premiere:

vimeo.com/33406995

Ariane

I'm not doing anything. I DID do a little school project on Final Cut today.

@ruda isn't there a streaming option?

Bob

@Hennes Heh. I often just leave it as PCM, mostly because most of the crappy video encoders I've used error/crash/fail when I try any other audio format.

ruda.almeida

@Ariane Yeah, found it.

Bob

1:08 AM

@Ariane what kind of project?

Ariane

1. Go out and film random things as a team
2. Come back and separately make videos out of it

ruda.almeida

@Bob Don't do that! PCM audio = Uncompressed WAV audio. Trust me, the audio alone will eat up your drive space.

Bob

@ruda.almeida I know it's uncompressed. There's the little problem of me having a choice between PCM, no audio and nothing at all.

ruda.almeida

@Ariane Are you the female on the video? Also, have you noticed the interlacing issue?

Journeyman Geek

@bob someone was joking about win 98 and dx 10. Weren't you trying to get a win98 vm?

Hennes

1:14 AM

s/Is you/are you ?

ruda.almeida

@Bob Then your encoders are really crappy, indeed

Bob

@JourneymanGeek what, you mean allquixotic?

ruda.almeida

@Hennes Whooops. Thanks (I'm the kind of persons who actually likes to be corrected).

Hennes

Heh, so am I in some things.

Esp. if I make the same mistake over and over in a foreign language

Bob

Feb 12 at 16:37, by allquixotic

@Tanner, thank god you're here! slap @Bob before he starts hacking DirectX 10 into Windows 1.0

ruda.almeida

1:16 AM

@Bob Wasn't he trying to run .NET 2.0 on Win95 or something?

Ariane

@ruda I'm conveniently behind the camera on all of the shots I selected. I'm too complexed to want to appear in a video. And uhm. I've just noticed awful video altogether. The cassette was so awfully buggy (either because we rewinded it a few times to view our shots on the camera or because one of the batteries was defective and kept turning the camera off in the beginning), and the quality was so awful that I didn't even bother worrying about how and why it was awful.

Bob

@ruda.almeida I was the one trying to run .NET 2 on Win98

Journeyman Geek

Sure not. Anyway was a joke

@bob yeah that's prolly what I was referring to

Hennes

bob: which VM did you create the 98 host on?

And can I get a copy for legacies sake ?

And how large is it? (20MB disk?)

Bob

@Hennes VMware

Hennes

1:18 AM

Cool, got workstation 8

allquixotic

bah, Civ V keeps freezing up on me... didn't use to do that before

but i didn't have Catalyst 13.2 beta before. maybe I should remove it

Hennes

I will also have to make a nice updated yet ultra clean (nothing installed except the OS) machines before XP is no longer supported. But I still have some time for that

Bob

It's easy to update XP after support ends

so many offline updaters everywhere

Hennes

I tried civ %. was fun on normal. Then I tried it on the hard modes and noticed the AI cheat. That was the last time I played it

Bob

98... most of the update packs are incomplete or break things

Hennes

1:20 AM

I got a XP Vms, but most are not 100% clean.

Bob

...it's a 8GB VHD

Hennes

So I will just install a nice clean XP copy and keep that around

Oh. 8 GB

any chance of leeching that of you (after compressing it) ?

Bob

the actual disk is 255 MB

before snapshots

ruda.almeida

@ariane What you called awful can be called "experimental", "avant-garde" or whatever. Just say it was intentional. ;-)

The granularity and unusual colors actually match well the unnatural cuts and buzzing sound when the guy is sitting down. Feels like a MTV sketch. (Or instagram for the younger generation's reference).

But what I meant for interlacing was the horizontal lines when the ppl start running at 0:47s

Bob

it's a expanding disk

Ariane

1:22 AM

Oh that. Probably the cassette's fault. I uhm. Seriously don't really wanna think about this crap anymore. I'm traumatised. It's drained all of my energy.

Bob

compresses down to...113 MB with Windows zip

Hennes

Wow, that is some compression

Is that due to a mostly empty filesystem ?

Journeyman Geek

People still use cassettes?

Hennes

Aye

I used a cassette when I want music in my car

I had a CD player. People broke into the car.

Journeyman Geek

0o

Hennes

1:24 AM

Then I had a CD player again, people broke in again

Now I have a cassette deck and nobody broke into it for a decade

Bob

looks like 7zip can't do gzip compression :\

ruda.almeida

Deinterlacing

Deinterlacing is the process of converting interlaced video, such as common analog television signals or 1080i format HDTV signals, into a non-interlaced form. Interlaced video frame consists of two sub-fields taken in sequence, each sequentially scanned at odd and even lines of the image sensor; analog television employed this technique because it allowed for less transmission bandwidth and further eliminated the perceived flicker that a similar frame rate would give using progressive scan. CRT based displays were able to display interlaced video correctly due to its complete analogue ...

Bob

ah. It can't tar and gzip in one step

screw is. LZMA will do.

Hennes

@JourneymanGeek Mind you, I do have an MP3 player with a headphones out and a headphone out to a sort-of-cassette convertoer

Ariane

@ruda I'm traumatized. So I say it's the video's fault. Pssssh.

ruda.almeida

1:26 AM

@Ariane Heheheheh. Okay, okay. =P

Bob

got it down to about 80MB

unfortunately, I can't give this to you, @Hennes

I think it has my password in it :\

Ariane

So awesome, the material at that college. Part of my classes are on computers with Windows XP, we're lent cameras that use cassettes, our Mac computers have Snow Leopard but they didn't even bother to update them so they can manage NTFS... Funny thing is, in the very same building is the province's biggest (and only) TV program. Millions invested there and they get the latest stuff. But we don't even get decent things. Sad, sad.

Hennes

Ah. good point.

ruda.almeida

OH WHAT THE H*$%#^ I HATE MY F$#%#%$ ISP A SINGLE GOOGLE SEARCH IS TAKING 30+ SECONDS

Bob

I can create a clean one if you want? :P

Hennes

1:28 AM

Aye. If you do not have license problems.

Bob

> A full install of Windows 98 on a FAT32 drive requires 175 MB of free hard disk space, but may range from between 140 MB and 255 MB, depending on your computer configuration and the options that you choose to install.

Hennes

Or if you know a nic clean download for the cabs for win98

Ariane

@ruda Call them.

Bob

I don't think I'm even using a legitimate licence :S

ruda.almeida

@Ariane You have no idea how close a description it is of the place where I work, that happens to also be a public government institution.

Bob

1:28 AM

I should go dig out the old disc..

Hennes

I think I am a weirdo. Almost all my programs on this computer are legal.

3

Ariane

You probably are.

Hennes

Read: most are things like openOffice etc since I have no legal ms office

Ariane

Even my OS wasn,t until recently.

Though I do have a legal license of Office 2010. My mother won it in a drawing at work. 3-computer license. :p

Hennes

I got a nice legal OS, 'gift' from microsoft after they got paid for a conference/demo

Well, work paid

Ariane

1:30 AM

Anyway. I'm off to relax. Bye-bye, and thanks!

Hennes

And we were allowed to use that for home use. The goal was that we learning windows 7 before it got introduced at the office

waves

ruda.almeida

@Ariane Let's say I can't. Let's say I'm not stealing wifi signal but although I pay for the ISP, technically I'm not exactly one hundred percent on legal terms. I'd love to, but apparently I live in a black hole out of the coverage of any ISP, even the ones that my apartment's neighbors from the same building can get.

Bob

heh.

I have a backup ISO of my original 98SE disc

I just never thought to backup the key

fuond a stack of floppies, including definitions for some version of Norton AV from god knows when

more floppies for installing a ZIP drive

can't find the CD stash, though :(

Hennes

MY oldest remaining stuff are floppy (3.5 inch, 880KB ones) from an amiga

ruda.almeida

I think I still have some MSX floppies around from the early 90's

Bob

1:34 AM

heh. XP upgrade CD

even that's old

ruda.almeida

But not a single drive where I can read 360kb discs

Bob

XP demo disc? O.O

Hennes

I should have an XT left with two 360KB drives (and only floppy drives)

Bob

I forgot about that.

Ah, the days of giant boxes for CDs...

hey, DOS games

ruda.almeida

@Bob I bought a 3TB HDD last week and I'm sloooowly moving my stuff into it. Oh, the long and tedious process of copying stacks and stacks of CD-ROMs =/

Bob

1:37 AM

I just found a stack of unlabelled burned CDs

I'm scared to put them in :\

ruda.almeida

There's stuff from 2001 there. A few low-quality CDs are eaten by mold =/

Bob

massive collection of clip art :O

before the days of broadband, I guess

CDs can grow mould? :S

Office 2000... Office 2003 upgrade...

come on, just two years off

where's that 98 CD

ruda.almeida

@Bob Not exactly mold. The metalic coating wears off in small dots.

Bob

YES

FOUND IT

ruda.almeida

Last week I've found a shareware games CD from 1996. My shelves really need some organizing.

Bob

1:42 AM

> Microsoft Windows 98 for PCs without Windows

o.O

Heh;. It's an OEM copy.

allquixotic

hehee

Bob

o.O

I could fit all of my data on a single CD in 2006?

shit, it wouldn't fit in a 2TB drive now

Journeyman Geek

I think I have win 95 on floppy

Hennes

How many floppies? About 29 ?

Journeyman Geek

25

I am missing the first

Bob

1:44 AM

huuuuh

a Vista password reset disk... floppy disk

heh. PC world CD

> FREE operating system

> Linux Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0.1

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Bob

> FREE browsers: Internet Explorer 5.5 SP1, Netscape 6.01 and Opera 5.0.2 (adware version)

I'm tempted to install that copy of Linux :P

Journeyman Geek

Looool

I remember they used to bundle ie with floppies

ruda.almeida

I think I have a IE4 CD here somewhere. I found a lot of old stuff last week.

Bob

> Warning: installing a new operating system is a major operation which may not proceed as planned. If you are new to Linux, we recommend that you read the documentation before proceeding. If you are unsure of the consequences then seek professional assistance. We regret that PC World and Mandrake are unable to provide technical support for this distribution. Further Linux resources may be found at www.linuxworld.com.au and www.mandrake.com

read the documentation before proceeding?!

has anyone ever managed to read all the Linux docs?!

though I guess there was less at that time...

Has anyone heard of the Software 602 PC suite?

ruda.almeida

1:50 AM

@Bob Maybe by "the documentation" they didn't mean "all the linux manpages" but rather "some readme.txt on the disc"?

Bob

holy shit, it's still alive

they've discontinued their PC Suite though

@ruda.almeida I hope so :P

huh.. looks like this copy of Mandrake isn't available for download anyway