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Miniman

5:00 AM

@BESW Been watching that one

Magician

Ugh.

BESW

For the record I didn't vote to close it, just asked for a tag, because it does seem like answers can be given without knowing the exact system. But I love that "we could tag this with any of three systems!" means it doesn't need to be tagged with one of them.

Miniman

I went completely crazy and posted a comment which is clearly off-topic.

Magician

Oh dear. Someone's not having a good day.

Lord_Gareth

This freeform is giving me the feels >.<

> <You cannot hide from the people who love and respect you forever, Master> Syra says softly. <You cannot stop us from admiring you and seeking to emulate you.>

Miniman

5:05 AM

I'm interested to see what survives the inevitably approaching comment cleanup.

BESW

NOTHING WILL SURVIVE THE PURGE.

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doppelgreener

@BESW I did, it's missing a tag. This could be GURPS or something else for all we know. Probably D&D, would rather know the exact edition being used if so.

BESW

Yar.

Miniman

Aaaand Brian strikes.

Magician

Could well be AD&D, really. Or 5e with holdovers from GM.

BESW

5:08 AM

Or Pathfinder, which makes the dungeons-and-dragons tag especially silly.

Magician

And considering one of the arguments to be made her is RAW on alignments, specific system is critical.

Miniman

@BESW The dungeons-and-dragons tag was always pretty ridiculous. While the whole undead/necromancy/evil thing carries across, the question wants a specific method of dealing with a problem

The odds of a 4e solution working in a 2e game are...slim.

Magician

References to 'knowledge' skills make it unlikely to be 4e. But we shouldn't be doing this guesswork.

doppelgreener

@Miniman and if it is 4e, we can go "what? necromancy? evil? ehhhh. [handwave]"

Magician

It does come down to GM's call on alignments anyway.

BESW

5:11 AM

@Miniman Congrats on surviving the OnBrianing Storm.

Lord_Gareth

@Magician But the guesswork is so fun!

doppelgreener

@BESW would you call it... A brianstorm?

BESW

That's not nearly dramatic and dire-sounding enough.

(Hill giant dire were-Brian!)

Miniman

@BESW With top hat!

BESW

Never! Brian wears a big floppy brown hat.

Miniman

5:15 AM

It's hard to make out on his profile picture, I'll take your word for it.

BESW

Miniman

My day has a new highlight - 2 new types of junk food in my workplace's kitchen area.

The Oracle

-1

Q: Closing questions instead of fixing really minor issues

Specifically, this one: How should I handle the rest of my party, who believe all Necromancy must be evil? There is no other rpg system that I am aware of that uses those terms - '9th level' 'wizard' 'necromancy being automatically evil' 'Good, Evil, Neutral' 'Alignments' 'knowledge skill' 'rank...

Miniman

Well that could have been asked without saturating it in opinion.

BESW

That's Jack's rhetorical style; I don't think he can help it.

There was some drama in chat a few months ago asking him to be less insulting and sarcastic because it made people uncomfortable. It wound up with him choosing to leave the chat permanently instead.

Miniman

5:26 AM

Ouch.

Lord_Gareth

I find myself glad that I was able to curb myself to acceptable levels here.

BESW

...Whichever mod is deleting all those comments on the Undead question before I can even read them, I award you a jar of Internet cookies.

Lord_Gareth

Though it probably helps that I have chats where I can unleash as much RAEG as I need to

Miniman

@BESW He gave up and locked it

BESW

@Miniman I saw at least three comments pass through before then.

doppelgreener

5:28 AM

i'm gonna wait on this one, I hope it gets a mod response

Miniman

@BESW That's where the 'gave up' part comes from :P

doppelgreener

i am still getting upvotes on that GM betrayal answer; who is still reading this?

is this a common problem!?

how are people finding it if not?

BESW

Oh, yeah, he's not gonna listen to a single thing anyone says if they're a person who's locked horns with him previously. Which means mod responses are for the rest of the community, not him.

Miniman

@doppelgreener Which one?

doppelgreener

144

A: Betrayed by my GM; how can I respond?

It's pretty reasonable you're annoyed. One of your fellow players secretly plotted to kill your character for revenge (and it worked), the DM - the one guy you pretty much have to be able to trust - was in on it, and your fellow players offered you no emotional support at a point when you clearly...

Miniman

5:30 AM

@doppelgreener Google image searches for Luke Skywalker

Magician

Oh, hey, have an upvote.

BESW

...now I want to figure out how to search the site for "accounts with one question, open" and "accounts with one question, closed."

@doppelgreener Don't engage. Seriously.

Magician

Yeah, not worth it.

doppelgreener

@BESW Very well. Should I delete my comment, or leave it there? (He's already seen it, almost certainly.)

BESW

He's in the realm of cynical hypotheticals now, so he can modify the proposed situation and the imaginary user to counter any opposition. There is literally no point which can be made.

Your call.

I'm incline toward deleting.

doppelgreener

5:35 AM

@BESW [beep boop deleted]

Miniman

Besides, the whole issue of 'we're not welcoming enough' is getting a bit ridiculous

GLANTH seems to have left the site, I guess it's everyone's fault for not completely rewriting his posts into something readable

BESW

Gosh. The number of people who get actively discouraged through downvotes and outright bans, but continue to come back, is not trivial.

doppelgreener

@Miniman Naw, it's just incompatibility with our ethos. In some of his (now deleted) answers, he appeared to dislike using a computer keyboard in the first place (preferring handwriting), which might explain his attitude toward putting in extra effort to make his post look nice - that'd be extra difficult for someone who already finds using a keyboard difficult.

He brought it up, we discussed it, he may have decided this site was not for him, and it probably isn't.

@BESW that's what my comment was about, though you're right there's no point to discussing that with him at the moment.

Lots of people here have had their first question closed.

BESW

Heck, we've got someone from another site entirely who still occasionally pops up in this chat despite being outright told he's not welcome.

Miniman

@doppelgreener That was sarcasm, I'm arguing against the stance of 'we need to be more welcoming to new users'

Lord_Gareth

5:41 AM

@BESW Wait, vhat?

doppelgreener

@Miniman oh, yeah, i get that was sarcasm, but he didn't leave our site because of downvotes and closures - in fact he appeared to be steadfastly determined to leave answers and ask questions regardless.

Miniman

@doppelgreener Ah, I see what you mean.

BESW

@Lord_Gareth Oh, yeah. The day we finally lost patience with him is the day we learned the collective noun for moderators is "a hammer of mods."

Miniman

@BESW Are mods a material or an enhancement?

doppelgreener

@BESW well, that was a common troll who is now banned for an entire year. we'd already found that out by the time we needed to summon mjolnir of mods for stizzle.

BESW

5:44 AM

I don't think stizzle was a common troll.

doppelgreener

(with the common troll we also found out an alternative collective noun is a mjolnir)

BESW

Oh, right. I'm confusing him with the other guy.

Bah.

doppelgreener

Mar 4 at 11:43, by ManishEarth

-9

Q: Why was i suspended from chat?

My account was suspended from chat and I want to know why and which mod did it. They not even sent me any message! Please Help

discussion chat specific-user account-suspension

yeah you're confusing him with this guy

BESW

In my defence, Stizzle claimed to be at least three different people, regularly switching user names and avatars.

doppelgreener

(click the timestamp link for the mjolnir/hammer of mods context)

@BESW five: a kid, the kid's father, a marine captain, a pilot, and a guy from youtube.

BESW

5:46 AM

I think he was also the kid's little sister once.

The kid's father was the marine captain, and based on the ages given he had the kid at age 15 and became a captain with less than four years in the service.

Miniman

@doppelgreener Thanks, that was hilarious

doppelgreener

@Miniman there is a special kind of subtle glee i experience when i see someone doing something like that

because they think they're tickling the dragon's tail, and instead Thor himself will traverse the Bifrost and bring down mjolnir with the force of a meteor upon them.

and I just get to be the audience to such a cosmological event.

it's not major, but it is kinda nice.

Miniman

@BESW Incidentally, I'd be more interested to search for 'healthy accounts whose first question was closed'

BESW

@Miniman I'd love to see that, but it's less likely to be searchable?

doppelgreener

Stack Exchange basically eats trolls for breakfast. And then snacks upon them lightly any other time of day when they care to present themselves.

Lord_Gareth

5:53 AM

My first question remains open :D

Miniman

@BESW Not really, if you can detect whether a question is closed or not the rest is just logic

Lord_Gareth

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Q: How can I play monsters and NPCs up to their potential?

In many cases discussions about balance in 3.5 will, inevitably, involve one side or another invoking an anecdote of the time they fought this monster, or a member of that class, and they didn't suffer the problem being illustrated in the discussion at hand. In many cases it seems like these anec...

dnd-3.5e gm-techniques monsters optimization

Adeptus

This is an interesting question

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Q: Animated Armor Trap

In the Dungeon Master's Basic Rules, one of the monsters that was featured is Animated Armor. I was disappointed that they did not address the possibility of intelligent animated armor attempting to lure a PC into trying to wear it and then taking control of said PC. So when I brought home my shi...

dnd-5e

BESW

The only reason I don't get more questions closed is that I work really hard on them beforehand.

Miniman

@Adeptus Eh, he's asking for suggestions for GM fiat. Not something that appeals to me.

BESW

6:01 AM

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Magician

None of these words made sense to me when they were first mentioned, and they still don't.

trogdor

@BESW I have this as my home screen already. right now

BESW

@trogdor I know.

trogdor

lol

Lord_Gareth

Someone summon me a link to the FATE room, I have a thing I wanna do

BESW

6:03 AM

@Magician It's from a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode in which the crew encounters an alien species which converses in allusion.

Fate chat and game room

Good questions raised here should hit the main site too! Fudge...

Darmok and Jalad were enemies who, stranded on an island (Tanagra), worked together to defeat a monster which threatened them both. In the process they became friends.

Miniman

@BESW I thought it sounded familiar. That was a weird episode, even by their standards.

trogdor

I liked it

besides, that picture was too much to pass up

doppelgreener

@Miniman working on it. Currently: questions that have been reopen and left open, though I guess it doesn't matter if they were reopened so much as if they were closed.

Miniman

@doppelgreener Hey, I always meant to learn about the SE web service! Time to get my hands dirty

doppelgreener

Questions that have been closed

@Miniman it uses T-SQL

Now it enters the mind-bending phase of: "find users where this is true for the first question they asked".............. which might be beyond my SQL-writing abilities

Miniman

6:09 AM

@doppelgreener I do harder stuff at least once a week

doppelgreener

@Miniman i don't! please be my guest!

Miniman

where do you find their tables/columns/keys etc?

@doppelgreener Sorry, I just realised how that sounded

doppelgreener

@Miniman it sounded like you do harder SQL queries on a regular basis, which makes you the perfect man for the job

I have absolutely no qualms with someone being better at SQL than me.

Magician

@BESW ah, you found that old meta question again.

doppelgreener

@Miniman Select user ID as user link (if you write as [User Link] that turns it into a magic link), and select the Post ID for their first post which got closed (as [Post Link] is another magic link for this)

Oh, also, in addition to this being their first question, it also has to be the case that they subsequently went on to ask another, or provide answers.

So they must have another post following this one, after the close date. If you're up for that challenge, hahaha.

(I don't know how I'd write that myself.)

Miniman

6:13 AM

@doppelgreener I'll do it, might not be before I go home from work though :P

doppelgreener

@Miniman very well ;)

Miniman

Quick teaser: There are 204 rpg.SE users whose first question was closed

(probably)

sorry, 245

That's out of 10385 users in total

doppelgreener

\o/

Miniman

6:29 AM

Ok, my bad, 355/10385

Still not a terrible rate

Here we go: 158 users whose first post was closed and had multiple posts

doppelgreener

i wonder what data we need to put that into perspective.

number of users with multiple posts?

number of users with only one?

there's a lot of users who are also drive-bys: one question, then they're gone, and sometimes people complain about them not even accepting an answer in the process.

these people just typically ask a question then do absolutely nothing else.

we could therefore find users who asked one question, got closed, then stopped doing anything, but what can we do to distinguish them from drive-bys?

can we compare it to people who asked one question, which got closed, and had further activity but no further posts?

Miniman

2307 users who only ever had 1 post

1919 users who had more than 1

Adeptus

How many people have no questions? (I'm in this category)

Miniman

about 6000 users have no posts at all

8000 have never asked questions

Adeptus

So that's about 2000 who have answered but not asked

Miniman

6:41 AM

Yep

1366 who ask 1 question then no further posts

I'd share the queries, but they're pretty disgusting

Lord_Gareth

So overall we have a good signal-to-noise ratio?

Miniman

@Lord_Gareth No idea, how would we tell?

There's huge gaps between writing SQL and interpreting the results

doppelgreener

@Miniman please do anyway? so that we can make use of them ourselves

you can do so by clicking the 'permalink' link beneath the editor, and giving your query a title

Miniman

Yep: data.stackexchange.com/rpg/query/227343/…

But don't judge me, I write better normally

Masaka

The ability to chat is mine! :D

Miniman

6:51 AM

@Masaka Congratulations!

Adeptus

Trying to make conclusions from those figures...
60% of users are "read-only"
20% are answerers but not askers
23% are "drive-bys" (question or answer)
10% are "drive by" questioners
3% had first question closed
2% had first question closed _and came back_

BESW

@Masaka Welcome!

Masaka

Thanks. :)

Miniman

@Adeptus All should be considered approximates, it's impossible to query with certainty on a database you don't know well

Adeptus

of course

even my %'s are rough

Miniman

6:53 AM

@Adeptus Sorry, that's a reflex from work when they ask me ridiculous questions and then take my answers seriously

Lord_Gareth

@Masaka Welcome to the Land of Two Thrones

Miniman

And I'm like, no, the data quality in that database makes it impossible to be exact! And they're like, it's fine

Masaka

Two Thrones?

Dare I ask how it got that name?

Miniman

And I'm like mumblemumblemumble it's fine till you blame me mumblemumble

Lord_Gareth

@Masaka Great men have asked that question and had their minds annihilated by the terrible knowledge they gained.

Masaka

6:55 AM

0_o

Lord_Gareth

I may or may not be a bad person

But, then again

[Reclines on throne]

I may also be serious

In any event, welcome to the chat.

Masaka

Well thanks, I'm just hoping my new question gets answered soonish as I'm meeting my group in 3 hours! :D

Lord_Gareth

Link me

Masaka

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Q: Do Transfer Magic and Enchant Magic Item work together?

This is a question concerning 2 different rituals and if they work in conjunction with one another, namely, Transfer Magic and Enchant Magic Item. If I understand the reading of the spells correctly, Transfer Magic lets you transfer the properties, powers and enhancements associated with an item...

dnd-4e magic-items rituals

Miniman

Anyways, glad I could put my black magic SQL abilities to work for the good of the community. Let me know if you want any more and I'll happily give it a go, but right now it's time to go home.

Lord_Gareth

7:00 AM

Aaah. I cannot help you, supplicant. But the other throne can

@BESW, @doppelgreener, a supplicant calls!

Masaka

Curses! aw well.

BESW

@Lord_Gareth Wha?

Lord_Gareth

See the question above

It calls to your 4e knowledge

Adeptus

I'm not familiar with 4e, but I'd say the "Enchant Magic Item changes a normal item into a magical item of equal or lower level to you" means the total item level. Either that or it just doesn't work if the starting item isn't "normal"

BESW

I don't have access to the Compendium so I can't be a lot of help, as 4e is super-legalistic and I'd need the exact wording.

If I'm reading the question right, though, it sounds like you're trying to double up the properties of Magic Armor and Dark Majesty enchantments on a single item?

You can't have two enchantments on one item in 4e. No how, no way, nuh-uh, nada, taya, no enchilada, the big en oh, diddly squat, good day sir.

Masaka

7:06 AM

Yes, that's right

Ahh k

BESW

In this case it's especially clear: Enchant Magic Item says it targets a normal item and makes it magical.

Armor with Dark Majesty on it isn't normal--it's already magical.

Masaka

I was more unclear as to the language of what transfer magic did.

If you transfer dark majesty to leather armor, is it still normal leather armor with those properties?

BESW

No, it's +1 Dark Majesty leather armour.

Masaka

Ok, that clears it up

BESW

(Assuming leather armour is a valid target for Dark Majesty; you can't bypass target restrictions with Transfer Magic.)

Masaka

7:10 AM

I believe it reads any object of the same item slot of equal or lower level

BESW

The main purpose Transfer Magic is that if you pick up cloth armour with an enchant your rogue wants, he doesn't have to wear cloth to get that benefit.

Masaka

Ah, k

BESW

@Masaka Transfer Magic, yes. But most armour enchants have subcategories of armour type they can and can't be placed on.

doppelgreener

@BESW sounds like you might be able to leave an answer after all [wink wink troll-strength nudge followed by sincere apologies and offers to provide medical assistance]

Zachiel

7:29 AM

@Masaka Welcome! Also, as I've already commented on your question for readers' sake, transfer moves around enhancements rather than copying them

Masaka

Ah thanks, I didn't assume the effect was copied, I was more curious if the item that was originally level 0 armor could receive the enchantment from the armor and the. Be enchanted, seems to not be the case! Thanks for the response!

Zachiel

Oh, don't worry, the question just seemed to imply so

doppelgreener

7:57 AM

man, it still bothers me when something i wrote gets a downvote, even though it doesn't mean anything / doesn't really matter

namely that meta question about whether to keep the 'the' in wod tags names - i have my own concern that it's so trivial it's hardly worth mentioning, but it is there, so i might as well, and then i get a downvote so my brain goes "someone thought it was trivial! they're right! aaaa"

Lord_Gareth

ironheartsurge.tumblr.com/post/98293094764/…

Zachiel

@Lord_Gareth I don't get the refrance [cit.]

doppelgreener

11:36 AM

@Zachiel i don't think there is one exactly, though maybe an understanding of the characters would aid my own appreciation of the joke

i still think it was pretty good

BESW

It's a reference to this:

►

Probably by way of the running gag about that song from the TV show Archer.

kviiri

12:04 PM

I really want an RPG set in the world of representational democracy. Gerrymandering, political debates, bipartisan backroom deals etc...

kviiri

12:19 PM

Of course, with an Ace Attorney-esque increase in epicness.

Tim B

12:32 PM

so basically Vampire but without the bloodsucking?

actually you said attorney...like vampire but slightly more bloodsucking

kviiri

Well, Ace Attorney was just a comparison. I'd like to see an RPG that focuses on politics the same way Ace Attorney focuses on law - over-the-top, ignoring all the boring paper-pushing.

But granted, politics does involve a fair amount of bloodsucking.

MrLemon

12:59 PM

I can't believe I just wrote a page-long answer about ropes...

Aaron

@MrLemon I read it. good answer.

wax eagle

lol damn verisimilitudinites!

Aaron

@MrLemon So that James guy is part of paizo?

MrLemon

Creative Director for Pathfinder, lemme add some info to the answer

Aaron

Ok so he is about as official as you can get then?

kviiri

1:03 PM

I was confused for a while when I read the rope question. "Rope" means roleplaying in my native language.

Aaron

@MrLemon Thanks

BESW

@kviiri pinkie.forever.gif

MrLemon

@kviiri what language would that be?

Judging by BESW's repsonse, I assume something oceanic?

Aaron

@BESW Pinkie Pie is love Pinkie pie is life?

BESW

@Aaron The first rule of Party Club is: invite everyone to Party Club.

Aaron

1:13 PM

So My GF has the stereotypical view of "bronies" I tried to explain that not all of them are creepy but I had a hard time explaining it. How do you explain it when people ask you?

She was asking why so many people on this chat seemed to be bronies

BESW

Sep 13 '13 at 14:29, by BESW

Because there's nothing that says a show aimed at young girls can't be a really good show.

Joshua Aslan Smith

yo beat me to it

@waxeagle

wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith FGITW!

Joshua Aslan Smith

hah

its okay Im still catching up today in general since My alarm failed to go off and I woke up almost an hour after my work time started

my backup alarm (cat) failed also to wake me up

BESW

It has excellent animation, voice acting, writers, and musicians, interesting characters and plots, and John de Lancie as a guest villain parodying Q from ST:TNG. It's about candy-colored ponies, and that's certainly not for everybody. But "because it's for little girls" is as bad a reason to avoid it as "because it's for little boys" would be for a girl to avoid watching any of the 80s and 90s TV shows that have permeated our popular culture.

MrLemon

1:17 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith For that reason I have Italian workers doing some work in the apartment next door, starting at 7 in the morning. The entrance of which sadly lies next to my open window...

wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith lol, my backup alarms go off around 7 on the weekends...haven't had to rely on them on a weekday in a while

BESW

(And there's a common misunderstanding she might be having: generally "bronies" like the current Friendship is Magic TV show, and consider the previous MLP shows, pre-Friendship is Magic, to be just as bad as everyone thinks. It's a particular TV show I enjoy, not the franchise as a whole.)

wax eagle

Spell cards are now available for order.

BESW

(For a more extreme example, it's like thinking the Adam West Batman show was too campy and kid-focused for Batman: The Animated Series to possibly be worthy of adult attention. Except, yanno, with social drama instead of punching people.)

Joshua Aslan Smith

dem spell cards

flamesofwar.com/gf9online_store.aspx?CategoryID=13327

nice to see the ranger and pally decks are nice and affordable

wax eagle

1:21 PM

yes

wiz isn't too bad given it's 230 cards

Joshua Aslan Smith

yeah its a lot o cards

I mean its everyone but ranger and pally lol

wax eagle

Need the cleric, bard and druid decks though, and those will be $20 I'm sure as well

(and sorcy and warlock)

(is that all the casters?)

MrLemon

sorcy and warlock are included in wizard, it seems

quite nice cards

wax eagle

very nice

Magician

So, currently $32, plus likely $20 for druids for a complete set? That's more than the PHB itself.

wax eagle

1:26 PM

@Magician true, but most folks would likely pick up one or two sets rather than all of them...maybe?

(plus digital tools probably makes this an either/or vs DS)

Magician

I dunno. From my past consumption habits, it was me as the GM who bought most things. And if I were to buy these cards, I'd get them for everyone...

I'm sure there's a market here, and they did sell power cards for 4e before.

wax eagle

@Magician yeah...those seemed pointless..these actually seem useful

Magician

True, too many variables in 4e.

wax eagle

kinda wish there was a physical artifact for spell slot tracking

I think I might use poker chips or something for those. I want to make resource pools more apparent

Magician

Not sure that'd work well beyond the first couple of levels.

wax eagle

1:30 PM

Maybe a sheet where they color in boxes when they use the slot?

Magician

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Tickboxes.

wax eagle

slot not spell. spells aren't consumed in 5e...

BESW

Tablet of Spell Tracking: this flat, squarish lump of an unfamiliar material is solid black on one face and has a couple buttons on the side. It lights up when the buttons are properly manipulated, and presents strange symbols which change as you gesture over them. With a successful Arcana check (DC 25) you know how to use the Tablet, storing and accessing information about your spellcasting ability on its glowing surface.

wax eagle

lol known by it's common name as i-p'a'd

BESW

Further Arcana checks may reveal greater uses for the Tablet, but each attempt forces a Will save (DC 10, +2 for every previous use that day). Failure targets you with the effect of an enthrall spell (CL 20).

Magician

1:34 PM

@waxeagle i-pBANGaBANGd? A mouthful!

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wax eagle

GF9 has an OBOE in it's counters for products available...

(either that or it's store's code can't show a single item on a line...honestly not sure which)

Joshua Aslan Smith

are you guys talking about the card decks for 4e?

the Fortune Cards

wax eagle

no the power cards for 4e

they sold class based power cards for a while, you can still find them in gaming stores sometimes

Joshua Aslan Smith

weird

I guess that was before digital tools launched though

wax eagle

here's the barb

amazon.com/Players-Handbook-Barbarian-Edition-Accessory/dp/…

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:39 PM

Ah so just PHB2

thats what I figured

wax eagle

PHB1 too

I don't think they sold well though..

Joshua Aslan Smith

what I meant was the barb is only getting PHB powers

no Martial Power

wax eagle

ah yeah, no. they sold additional sets for the power books

Joshua Aslan Smith

hmmmm

wax eagle

at least for MP

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:40 PM

gotcha

wax eagle

I think they stopped printing them at some point

Joshua Aslan Smith

yeah with digital tools this seems very unoptimal

wax eagle

even without them, the amount of information that you'd have to calculate to make those worth it...just not...

Joshua Aslan Smith

as much as I like the feel of cards

oh yeah

hah

I just looked at the prone question again because of your edits, everytime I think of the party proning and then dog piling on the one prone enemy I think of Ceasers assination and just a lot of dudes knifing another dude

Mourdos

Every time I read the word 'proning' I want to punch something cute.

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Joshua Aslan Smith

1:43 PM

hah

Lord_Gareth

Thanks again for your time last night, @BESW

wax eagle

that's part of why the spell cards for 5e appeal to me. Fewer reasons no to than 4e because there are only 2 calcs that are needed. No death by 1000 ~~papercuts~~ bonuses

BESW

My players once killed a mage by dog-piling exploding zombies on top of him and waiting for him to AoE.

Joshua Aslan Smith

need to use it enough to get it into the OED

Mourdos

First there was 'happy slapping', next there was 'proning' ?

I'm pretty sure the words 'knock prone' are sufficient.

BESW

1:44 PM

@Lord_Gareth The LoL-to-Fate thing? That was fun.

I hope it was helpful!

Joshua Aslan Smith

cause lets be honest, theyll let any old word into the OED these days

Mourdos

League Of Legends to FAte?

BESW

@Mourdos Gareth gave me a League of Legends fight cinematic and asked me to translate it into Fate mechanics, so he could get a better feel for Fate.

Joshua Aslan Smith

oh nice, that is a great little movie they made

BESW

Translating an LoL cinematic into Fate terms

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Joshua Aslan Smith

1:46 PM

hah champions would be fun to write aspects for

Mourdos

Sounds like fun :-)

I take it items would be traits?

My main experience of Fate is Camalot Trigger,

BESW

I didn't stat up the characters. I just translated the action and inferred character traits along the way.

"I imagine the Hunter has a stunt to justify this, something along the lines of...." kind of thing.

Lord_Gareth

Which was still fascinating and enlightening

Joshua Aslan Smith

yeah

@mourdos nah forget the item economy

Mourdos

I'm reading it now.

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:51 PM

focus on character appearance and their backstory and abilities

Leona is the only one who might get an item related stunt

because the Locket of the Iron Solari inspired a skin for her

Mourdos

Titan is nautilus? Ah yes, I can see that it is.

That was awesome. I'm gald I know enough about fate to have followed it

Joshua Aslan Smith

catwoman is making me laugh, ahri should totally have a DC style catwoman skin for ahri

BESW

@JoshuaAslanSmith I know nothing about LoL.

Joshua Aslan Smith

@besw totally fine

its a big thing, but only if you are into that sort of gaming

BESW

I mean, I know of it. A lot of my friends/players indulge in it.

But lore and specific abilities and what stuff's called? Spsh.

MadMAxJr

1:59 PM

League of Legends is a game where you assemble a team of 5 characters to battle in 3 lanes of minion armies, and the player base will tell you constantly you are doing it wrong, you are killing our team, you are the reason why we need to surrender.

Joshua Aslan Smith

That video manages to capture both the playstyles for those roles as well as the champion character traits they have from their lore

haha

its less bad than it used to be

BESW

@MadMAxJr Yeah, that's about the extent of my knowledge of it.

MadMAxJr

Admittedly, Riot has /tried/ to engineer and retool the system to make it somewhat newcomer friendly.

But once you pass a certain level of play, you hit the serious players, and there is zero tolerance.

I'm still puzzled that these MOBA games have huge tournaments and big prizes.

Joshua Aslan Smith

@MadMAxJr only for ranked

@MadMAxJr same reason SCII does, its a game enough people play that they would watch the streams/tournaments

I follow a guy called OddOne whos not anywhere near top tier pro, but he has good advice and funny commentary and his stream has adverts for PC related stuff as it goes on

@besw so can an ongoing scene have multiple conflicts?

BESW

Sure, if the story wants it to.

Joshua Aslan Smith

2:12 PM

just wondering

still reading through your breakdown

@besw great illustrative breakdown

@MadMAxJr so yeah Id have leona's shield and sword be an aspect as well as have stunts calling them out

that way you could easily model her in game abilties

BESW

@JoshuaAslanSmith Thanks! Glad you liked it; I had fun.