33 lbs. that's hefty

@JonathanHobbs You're right about the sloppy wording (and the rule.)

@waxeagle ok, makes sense

@DForck42 yeah I was trying to figure out why your carry weight was so high, but that makes it all make sense. But yeah the bag of holding make it all irrelevant

@waxeagle :-D

i hate how the char builder truncates some feats

@DForck42 yeah, it's inconsistent and they leave important stuff out (like what kind of action is doing X?)

like virtuous recovery. truncated to "'gain resist all when you spend a healing surge", but i'm fairly certain it's resist all #

@DForck42 yeah, I'll pull the #

i think it's 5

wis mod

ok, so yeah it's 5 for me

@DForck42 just 2

There's a way to fiddle the width of things on the char sheet - at least I remember it working like that.

does the full wording for devout protector expertise specify that they have to be adjacent to you?

@SimonGill with the online one?

@SimonGill the offline one had more abilities to do that

@DForck42 I thought it worked there.

@DForck42 no, you just have to be conscious and holding a shield.

@waxeagle score

@DForck42 the wording of that is delightfully ambiguous. I mean it's like "hey, my buddy 2 continents away has a shield one +1 AC for me"

@waxeagle heh, yeah

so this is kinda neat. i have resist 7 fire, resist 2 poison, resist 5 when i pop a surge, can pop a surge for temp hit points, and get +1 to def when use total defense or second wind

@DForck42 how are you getting to 5 from virtuous recovery?

wis mod is +2

whoops, was thinking cha

so +2 from recovery when pop a surge

@DForck42 yep

still pretty cool, imho

@DForck42 agreed

btw, i tell you what this party's made up of?

even a small amount of resistance can save you a surge later. Or keep you up

@DForck42 not yet

@waxeagle heh. a drow fighter of some sort, and a dwarf barbarian

btw your pally wants to be a bardladin. (and if you haven't seen Unicorn city yet, go watch it)

@DForck42 nice, dwarves make excellent barbs.

@waxeagle so multiclass bard? what for? majestic word?

@DForck42 majestic word is nice, plus bardladin is a funny word :P. Actually it's a top tier MC option for a pally too

@waxeagle ok, i'll look into it when i get home

@waxeagle i'd call him a chardladin

@DForck42 although I'm honestly not seeing anything that should compel you to do it before 11

and I'd only do it then to get the LifeSinger PP.

or if your party is short on healing

@waxeagle ok

hopefully we can get my ex's cousin's friend to play

and hopefully he plays something besides a melee class

@DForck42 srsly, y'all are all gonna be in the thick of things

@waxeagle :-D

that's why i built my paladin the way i did, to help us last longer

but we haven't had a proper fight in two sessions so...

@DForck42 yeah, you guys have a solid front line, need two back line types. preferably of the attack granting leader vein :)

@waxeagle like a bard?

@DForck42 bard, Shaman, tac lord, artificer...ardent could work too, but they are another front liner.

ok

yay! migrian symptoms!

@DForck42 :(

@waxeagle yeah

explains why i coudln't concentrate on anything last nigh t(that's one of the symptoms)

also wonder if that's why i was up .9 lbs this morning (water retention)

hey in 3.5e does spell resist from a template and spell resist from race stack?

Im Experimenting with some creation of mine that will never be used. simply because A.) Its Freaking Scary. and B.) When the hell am I ever gonna use a ECL 25

I think you only get the better of the two. Similar to how like bonuses don't stack?

perhaps.

This Creation Scares Me.

15 Ft reach with its natural weapons and 20 with its chain.

What's so scary about it? Apart from the raw numbers?

Half Illithid Pixie.

Classed.

I have a player running around with a Summoner whose Eidolon has a 15 foot reach for 2d6+str.

You get used to it. :P

A Multitude of SLA and Spells. Invisibility. Brain Eating.

Immunity to crits.

Does it eat brains from 20 feet away?

It could IF IT WERE A FREAKING HUMANOID. screw aberation blood feat

cant extend the reach of those tentacles beyond 15 im afraid.

Its Classed Rather Oddly because I made it in 5 minutes.

Sorcerer 8/Warshaper4/Fighter 4

I was gonna stop at Warshaper 4 but then I Wanted it to be 4 levels higher and needed some combat feats

Like Weapon Proficiency with that spiked chain

and COmbat Reflexes

Because i like combat reflexes

Just sounds like a pile of No's to me.

eh its scary if you cant see it.

Screw it im changing those 8 sorcerer levels to wizard.

and perhaps those 4 fighter levels as well

Exactly, no you can't see it. No, you can't hear it. No that power won't work. No you can't charge me. No, you can't use your trick, neither can you, or you either.

if i wanted to make a pure Chain AoO build I would drop the caster levels and take Mage Slayer.

And Psionic Hole.

oh wait. I dunno If I can.

Illithids are kinda psionicy

You've mixed in Pixie, so all bets are pretty much off.

The Template lists the Half Illithid Abilities as Psionics but they are more like SLA.

Throw in the Worm That Walks and Paragon templates.

"These abilities are as spells cast by an 8th-level sorcerer" Those aint Psionics those is SLA's

@Novian Psionics are SLA outside of Psionic specific books.

ah.

Welp there goes Mage Slayer. Would kill my SLA's

realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/featbox.pl?feat=Mage_Slayer

meh but no defensive casting is nice. because it is another NO on my No List

So is thicket of blades.