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Jun 17, 2013 23:07
ah yeah, it's an easy mistake to make
Jun 17, 2013 23:04
{a} will be a neighbourhood of a only when {a} is an open set, and that's definitely not always the case
Jun 17, 2013 23:02
not quite. you need every point to have a compact neighbourhood
Jun 17, 2013 23:00
terry tao has a writeup on his blog i think where he discusses how compactness is a generalisation of finiteness
Jun 17, 2013 23:00
every space. once you have an open cover of {a}, you know at least one of the sets contains a. hence you can just choose that as a finite cover
Jun 17, 2013 22:58
(the application is the thurston norm in 3-manifold topology. it has a lot of information, and we know it is always a rational polytopal norm. of course, the issue is that we don't know how to compute it exactly... even bounds can be tough)
Jun 17, 2013 22:57
just think about R^2 at first. imagine you have an oracle to compute the norm, and you know the unit norm ball is a rational polytope a priori. can you come up with an algorithm to determine the vertices in finite time?
Jun 17, 2013 22:57
it's a basic fact that norms on R^n are all equivalent. but some of them are more finitary than others: suppose the unit norm ball (which specifies the norm) is a polytope with coordinates lying in Q^n (a rational polytope)
Jun 17, 2013 22:56
so, here's an interesting thing
Jun 17, 2013 22:54
and normally i like CW spaces... :P
Jun 17, 2013 22:53
@anon ah of course, i forgot. woops
Jun 17, 2013 22:48
is it not uncommon for there to be reputation lag?
Jun 17, 2013 22:48
they will be a countable union of open balls though
Jun 12, 2013 07:48
@Lord_Farin repeatedly claiming that you're taking an objective standpoint doesn't actually do anything to strengthen your argument
Jun 11, 2013 21:29
the main important part ist he stuff in front of the y and its derivatives
Jun 11, 2013 21:28
yes, that's the terminology
Jun 11, 2013 21:26
kind of like the difference between solving Ax = 0 and Ax = b
Jun 11, 2013 21:26
with the e(t), it's inhomogenous
Jun 11, 2013 21:26
no e(t) means you call it homogenous (linear)
Jun 11, 2013 21:25
if you don't have the e(t), it's fine right?
Jun 11, 2013 21:25
hang on
Jun 11, 2013 21:23
which particular book is it?
Jun 11, 2013 21:22
drop the g(y) and it's fine
Jun 11, 2013 21:22
urgh, i am clearly very drunk, sorry
Jun 11, 2013 21:19
woops, yep
Jun 11, 2013 21:18
"linear in x" would mean something like f(x,y) = ax + g(y), where g is some other function
Jun 11, 2013 21:18
well, if it just says "linear" then what i've written would probably be the usual interpretation
Jun 11, 2013 21:16
@nerdy you can talk about both. f(x,y) would have the form f(x,y) = ax + by, where a and b are constants
Jun 11, 2013 21:16
the usual definition takes as a basic concept "open sets", and says that "the preimage of an open set is open". a lot of people get confused why it isn't the other way around
Jun 11, 2013 21:15
then a continuous function, in this formalism, says "a continuous map maps close points to close points"
Jun 11, 2013 21:15
basically there's a version of the definition (equivalent, of course) of a topological space in terms of a "closure operator"
Jun 11, 2013 21:13
i think the two most basic notions to get acclimated with is "sets are not doors" (they can be both open and closed) and the definition (or characterisation, depending on your axiomitisation) of continuity in terms of "closeness"
Jun 11, 2013 21:12
formally, it's with respect to X and its induced topology
Jun 11, 2013 20:48
let's not think too critically about that sentence
Jun 11, 2013 20:48
even the best make mistakes, i made a mistake, therefore i am the best
Jun 11, 2013 20:46
sorry about that
Jun 11, 2013 20:45
@amwhy hah wow so reading comprehension is not really My Thing
Jun 11, 2013 20:36
or err, it's only a grothendieck prime
Jun 11, 2013 20:36
@amWhy 77 is not a prime
Jun 11, 2013 17:51
well, an analogous example (text: books :: actors : movies) is the general male dominance in films. you might like to read about the bechdel test, for instance
Jun 11, 2013 17:46
such a directive would be fine! it's more about "not seeing yourself" in the things you read
Jun 11, 2013 17:40
that's a pretty interesting idea @amWhy
Jun 11, 2013 17:17
i've seen a lot worse things in maths departments, but for this site it's the only hurdle i can think of
Jun 11, 2013 17:14
it was feeling a little lonely on that thread
Jun 11, 2013 17:14
Thank you sir! (i kid, i kid)
Jun 11, 2013 16:36
the mspaint diagram you mean?
Jun 11, 2013 16:33
(i don't know any lie stuff)
Jun 11, 2013 16:33
that was wittier in my head
Jun 11, 2013 16:33
ask me no questions, i'll tell no Lies
Jun 11, 2013 16:32
notionally, i'm here in budapest but i've had to take a break (woo mental illness)