Valtteri

well, good night from Finland.

Any ideas how to show factorization is NP?

factorization...thou art cruel

I knoweth the primal numbers and thus their product was revealed to me

if you ask from me

no

In asking, you showeth thou art honest and diligent

would anyone like to commit to a bit?

hmmmmmm

but how to prove it without revealing them....

I know the factors of 16259

evening

I need to go now. bye all

@Bitrex And after that, could you tell me how would you define a city?

Ah, that one. I remember seeing it on a course on PDE

Yes, I understand. Tell me more about your fixation with blood as a food item.

if not a step, then a staircase

and you would win that argument

Floor[x] is a step function

Interesting non sequitur there

Finnish baseball, much simpler that way

One lives in Finland. And one is very nearly broke, so no book purchases for me. But thanks anyway

Why? If you can show that what you do benefits society, instead of some pointless satisfaction of instincts, surely it cannot contribute to the collapse of society.

Some British dude made a study of collapse of empires. The last state before dissolving seems always to be "decadence", represented by huge emphasis of sports and cooking. Footballers and formula drivers and also chefs get paid huge sums and we watch them on TV and follow what they do in the media. Thus, the Western world is about to end.

Can't disagree with your assessment :)

Possibly. But the lavatory is mathematical. So all its functions are mathematical, thus any solution to its problems must be mathematical. The way the plumber does the math in his head, effects the world around him, thus the toilet is fixed.

@Bitrex You cannot prove this doesn't work

@Bitrex Of course you do. He comes in and takes some paper and pencil. "I will now need to concentrate, these integrals are tricky" and then he does math. For, you see, all physical phenomena are fundamentally mathematical, so by discovering the correct math, the plumber can do all the work in the mathematical realm, thus not sweating all over your floor.

Of course the world would be better if a plumber integrated for 2 hours before reaching for the wrench.

I don't disagree.

It sometimes feels like all you ever get is either trivial or circular. You don't move forwards, but rather run to stay where you are.

But does math have some goal? Deriving bounds, modelling the world?

True.

May I ask why math is so fun? I had a meeting of a project about the container ships some days ago and the three of us had such fun. Gratuitous use of Greek letters gives off much laughter. hard to imagine some humanists deriving such amusement from a project.

You might say I am bored

Ah, just thinking. Many thing...Zeta function, prime counting function, profits of container ship companies and growth of cities. None of these things leads to anywhere but...

One does good, thank you. What is on the agenda for this Friday night?

How do you do

Good evening

how do I leave?

night and thanks for the chat

I doubt it will keep me awake

I think I go sleep

its half past 3 AM here

Yeah

what if they were just charged steel balls inside insulating coating and we rotated a tube filled with only these in a strong magnetic field?

hmmm

it does get complicated

I see...

lorentz and centrifugal