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Jun 1, 2022 02:21
Hello there folks!
Jun 6, 2021 14:24
I don't think I've ever successfully computed an eigensystem by hand on the first try. Usually due to sign errors somewhere
Mar 30, 2021 15:13
Which leads to very interesting interpretations of what it means.
Mar 30, 2021 15:13
I think there's also a lot of people who just jump on the "Let's do agile!" because they heard a summary about it somewhere
Mar 30, 2021 15:12
Indeed... that's absolutely true where I work.
Mar 30, 2021 15:05
If you can keep outrunning your mistakes and then move to a new position before they catch up to you, you can get ahead it seems.
Mar 30, 2021 15:04
The folks around here, even the scientific-computing folks, seem to misunderstand what "Agile" software means... I think they are under the impression it means we do "sprints" between capability demonstrations but keep on sprinting to new topics before people realize our previous capability doesn't work right
Mar 30, 2021 14:57
That was the extent of my proof the code works
Mar 30, 2021 14:57
Mar 30, 2021 14:57
Oh, and that hypersonic turkey from Thanksgiving!
Mar 30, 2021 14:56
My only proof that it was implemented correctly and well-suited to the problem were some pretty pictures of stuff flowing around, but 0 actual quantitative data
Mar 30, 2021 14:55
Verification and Validation
Mar 30, 2021 14:28
I know right? Forget digital twins, I want to have digital only-child's
Mar 30, 2021 14:21
Turns out I just can't trust experimentalists...
Mar 30, 2021 14:21
But since I was using a newly-developed code feature that was done during a sprint to "demonstrate capability," it had no V&V done so I spent forever trying to figure out why my code was wrong. And it's for a problem nobody has ever done before so we don't have a guide for how to do it, so I spent the next forever trying to figure out why my models were all wrong
Mar 30, 2021 14:20
In a too-close-to-home scenario, the whole hardware_v8_final_final_yesterday_today.cad thing bit me last week. I have been trying to get a simulation working for the past 6 months or so but it turns out I was given geometry that wasn't real and operating conditions that would never work
Mar 30, 2021 14:05
@ACuriousMind That's where there's so many versions of the CAD... Need to optimize the horn location through rapid design iterations
Mar 30, 2021 03:16
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Mar 30, 2021 03:15
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Mar 30, 2021 03:15
The third is really related to the first, which is removal of noise from the signal. This is part of compression as well, but if I have a set of 10,000 samples, depending on the fit, you can reduce the impact of outliers and so on. In a lookup table, it's harder to identify whether a region of the table is reliable or whether it's noisy
Mar 30, 2021 03:13
@antimony There's several benefits -- the first is compression. I can take a large number of data points and fit it into N terms for an Nth order equation. The second is super-resolution. With a fit, I can find values anywhere I want between the data points quite easily (which could be done with a lookup table also, but that's just fitting on a subset of the data so it's quite similar anyway)
Mar 19, 2021 16:44
Also, I know I'm not an ordinary, non-binding voter but I didn't want to force you to talk to yourself alone...
Mar 19, 2021 16:43
But... I don't know the material so I could be off base
Mar 19, 2021 16:43
Although I see it as kind of conceptual already anyway, because it's asking about implications of a particular result rather than the calculation
Mar 19, 2021 16:42
I don't know the subject area, but it probably can be edited slightly to make the conceptual question clearer no?
Mar 18, 2021 23:38
Although I haven't actually derived the dispersion relation on paper, just in my head quickly, so I could be wrong about the imaginary k's floating around
Mar 18, 2021 23:37
Wolfram Alpha tells me that sqrt(i*k^3) is (-1)^(1/4) k^(3/2) and I don't even know how to think about (-1)^(1/4)
Mar 18, 2021 23:35
@ZeroTheHero If the powers of k are odd, then they are also imaginary no? So it would be something like \omega^2 = -i*k^3 for example. I don't think there's anything that prohibits it mathematically, but I don't know how to interpret it physically (or "physically" meaning the impact of numerical discretization on the solution). Is the vector space in which you are working giving you second-order-in-time equations where this becomes important to figure out?
Mar 18, 2021 17:40
Probably need to work through the Fourier transform to find the relationship between frequency and wavenumber to get a better idea of what's going on there
Mar 18, 2021 17:39
On the other hand, u_tt + u_xx + u_xxx = 0 can be factored into (d/dt + sqrt(1+d/dx)d/dx)*(d/dt - sqrt(1+d/dx)d/dx) u = 0, which becomes a system of two equations: u_t + sqrt(1+d/dx)u_x = v and v_t - sqrt(1+d/dx)v_x = 0. And I don't really know how to wrap my head around what a wave with a fractional-derivative wavespeed behaves
Mar 18, 2021 17:37
For example, d/dt of u_t = u_xx (purely dissipative) becomes u_tt = u_4x; u_t = -u_xxx (purely dispersive) becomes u_tt = -u_6x; u_t = -u_4x (purely dissipative) becomes u_tt = -u_8x, and so on.
Mar 18, 2021 17:36
@ZeroTheHero So thinking about the second-order wave equation makes my head spin a bit, but here's what I think we've figured out... for the second-order wave-like equation u_tt = something, spatial derivatives of order 2^n for n > 1 are dissipative. All other even orders are dispersive. Odd-order derivatives result in fractional derivatives in u_t and I don't have any idea what that means
Mar 18, 2021 17:34
More towards pop sci though
Mar 18, 2021 17:34
They have prose-type articles as well as research articles in Science. Scientific American is all prose, but kind of sits between pop-sci and what would show up in something like Science
Mar 18, 2021 17:33
FWIW, Science is also a "magazine" but is obviously pretty high IF.
Mar 18, 2021 17:32
@SirCumference Articles there are a mix -- it's not a research journal by any means, but they do have some good writeups of science
Mar 18, 2021 15:34
@ZeroTheHero No problem! In a funny coincidence, my co-author just sent me the revised draft of the journal version of that paper about 2 minutes ago... heh. I asked him the question about d^2u/dt^2 and we're working through it now. He's the more math/analysis person, I try to keep him grounded into applications
Mar 18, 2021 14:41
Although if one were to use a purely central scheme (no dissipation terms in the truncation error, only dispersive ones) and one did not include any artificial dissipation, it would show plenty of oscillations and blow up. It's those disperisve truncation terms without any dissipative truncation terms that make forward-time, central-space unconditionally unstable
Mar 18, 2021 14:39
If I remember correctly, if I go through and actually define the Gaussian profile in the characteristic equation and convert that back into the conservative equations, then the numerical dispersion is much much smaller and it doesn't steepen.
Mar 18, 2021 14:38
So the wave front steepens, the back side wiggles, and because it's species mass fractions it gets renormalized to get rid of negative mass fractions... which funny enough makes this case turn into a "flame" eventually even though it's non-reacting. Pesky numerical errors!
Mar 18, 2021 14:37
@ZeroTheHero There's a picture showing oscillations in a Gaussian pulse. But, looking back through my notes, it's because it's a nonlinear set of equations and a pure gaussian pulse in the species (methane pulse in air background) is nonlinear
Mar 18, 2021 14:36
Mar 18, 2021 14:24
Feel free to ping me here any time, or shoot me an email if a longer form is better
Mar 18, 2021 14:24
No problem -- enjoy the meeting ;)
Mar 18, 2021 14:24
Although the museum is worth going to, if somebody is going to be here anyway
Mar 18, 2021 14:23
It is a good place to fly over... haha
Mar 18, 2021 14:22
Sure, that's no problem
 
Aug 2, 2021 21:01
(Airplane! quote for those who don't get the reference)
Aug 2, 2021 21:01
And I just want to tell you all, good luck. We're all counting on you.
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Aug 2, 2021 21:01
Heyo -- just popped in to thank those who are running for stepping up!
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