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If you want to contact me, @AndyD273, @James, and @Green know how to reach me.

So I said I'd give SE some time and see where they went. I was planning on giving them until the close of the year to make actual, appreciable forward progress on any of its numerous trip-ups. They haven't, and apparently they've decided to take feedback and hide it and hide discussion. Since this is an actual, appreciable regression, I'll go ahead and head out now. See you guys, I hope you all take care where your lives take you. Good luck in all you do. :)

Flat Earthers are in the running.

@MorrisTheCat You say this, but... :P

I'm right of center when using this chat's center, but I'm not pro-Trump. Which typically means most social circles... well I avoid politics around them.

@Bellerophon Most social circles that I come across either have a tense, awkward avoidance of politics, or you can get them riled up by either saying you're for Trump or against Trump, as the case may be.

@Bellerophon I think the wings are moving further from the center and increasing, from what I've seen. There seems to be a lot of "if you're not with us you're against us" that I think hasn't been seen to this degree the US since the height of McCarthyism.

Something like that.

@MorrisTheCat I mean, if it's something he said, a video. Something he tweeted, a link to the tweet.

@MorrisTheCat I think the best way to discuss this would be for you to provide examples, and let Andy weigh in on the examples.

Conversation hints back why we shouldn't do "majority rules" for voting, but use something like SE's system... or one of the many variations. It really attacks several of these things at the core.

If you're saying one thing, I agree with you. Another I don't.

@AndyD273 Don't think it matters in what context/pertaining to what?

@James Ouch.

@MorrisTheCat I'd argue "put through college" is a bad standard. But go on.

@MorrisTheCat Or are they?

@MorrisTheCat Okay, that sounds like step #2 or step #3. What happens first? People aren't doing that today. What changes to make that happen?

@MorrisTheCat So I'm not saying you're wrong, but if that's the path forward... what does the path forward look like? How does one go about this "fix?"

@Bellerophon Yep. The Constitution (including amendments) can have every Federal law challenged if they conflict. The Constitution and the Amendments are less about laws themselves, and more about challenging government action or other laws. In theory, anyways. Also in theory state laws can be overturned if ruled "non-constitutional" but that's a very gray, hit-and-miss deal. However for anything to be challenged as non-constitutional it has to be pushed up to that level from a lower court.

And maybe you could argue it wasn't important to unite the "states," but we were at the point where it was somewhat shocking that anything was agreed upon.

@Bellerophon So our current country is Try #3 at having a government. Our first just survived our "War of Independence," our second fell apart spectacularly. The third was just trying to get something together that people would actually join and wouldn't fall apart. Us not tackling everything was necessary to become one.

@James Same answer as to my favorite riddle.

@Mithrandir24601 I believe he was a dad before he even had a kid.

Started in high school

We had a guy retire having worked 50 years here.

@James Example of the day?

AFK for meeting

Like if they set to a task they're great about putting work into it, but... in my experience they're more likely to be rambunctious, reckless, and not-quite-as-responsible.

I'll buy "typically hard workers" but I feel like "almost always [...] responsible" is a stretch.

@Gryphon-ReinstateMonica EHHHHHHH

Everyone causing trouble, I hope?

Gooooood morning.

@Gryphon-ReinstateMonica Government infrastructure (not roads, but book keeping, people, and processes) breaks down to the point where you can't use the actual system, and it would be an actual danger/threat to maintain camps of prisoners. Even in the Civil War behind the lines of battle society went on.

@Gryphon-ReinstateMonica Breaths on glass Jurassic Park style

My memesense has failed me.

@Mephistopheles Eh?

@James And... actually this is me. I avoid 99% of political discussions because it's one of the three main things that get me really mad. I'm generally very easy going and whatever, but politics just gets under my skin real bad.

Which there's a lot of overlap on with "gamers" from "incel" (but not the other way around), but they're not describing the same group.

@Mephistopheles I think you're more looking for the term "incel," or that's the name/term I hear associated with those phrases.

@Mephistopheles What did you need help with? Was my definition not clear, or it didn't help in the context?

@James Ha!

@Mephistopheles Did my definition help clarify whatever you were looking into?

@Gryphon-ReinstateMonica There's one. Don't get greedy.

@James I'm not even a smoker, but I thought you were talking about that.

@Gryphon-ReinstateMonica I could, I guess in reverse order?

In general, I'd say a PC or console gamer who game enough to make it their hobby. Not that mobile gaming isn't gaming, but that's normally not the population that the term attempts to capture. Normally when it's used it's referring to men, not women--see previous note.

@Mephistopheles Depends on the context.

I wish I could star an exchange...

@James I mean, you can say this, and you're right, but many political groups get witch hunts created around them. Everything from commies to MAGAs have hate camps.

@Gryphon-ReinstateMonica Are you referring to Bernie?