Insax

Yeah, our barbarian needed 2 weeks to get out, since the spell worked for each individual...

@NautArch it completly depends on the situation i think, i had a dm once that led us into a cursed house, at some point we found out that everything we identify as an illusion also vanishes - we needed about 3 sessions to figure out the we should check the house itself to get out...

@NautArch that completly up to you, you are the dm :)

If the rolls work out atleast

My players also use this rule to identify a weakness of a certain enemy, identify illusions and so on, the fact that it doesnt cost an action or reaction adds more "tactical" combat

Yep and i think thats more balanced

We have a houserule that allows a player to do any sort of check at any time of combat without consuming any action or anything, so basically if the sorcerer sees someone casting he can do an arcana check to find out which spell it is.

But thanks for the advice

Yeah, i still like the players, the do some pretty funny stuff

@KorvinStarmast everything that can go wrong will go wrong?

That sounds good

And some other nasty stuff ofc...

Exactly, the way i understand it they want to become rulers of their own cuntry - or atleast respected persons in the world. What they dont understand is that they already are respected persons in the world, the could literally just go to a king and demand land, and they even would get it since they saved the capital from a dragon

Depends, they told me OT that they really like the world, but they want to do things differently roleplay wise - they want to have more impact on the world itself

They already discussed if the could just end the world and move to the next era with their current characters...

Exactly, its the players call what happens to the world

And we good

@NautArch no, there is no "victory condition" by itself. Its more an ending condition, if they wanna end it with a clean cut, just blow up the world

I think i can do one more way, i had a location which they already know where you can go to shadowfell... Around that specific are is a nullmagic zone which also silences the book

I mean it is my first campaign so...

Hmmm

And thats why they are the Roy Greenhilt of their own world

And there is a great part of their backstory, the start of the campaign starts in the previous era - sentenced to die until they were "moved to the next era" by the warlocks patreon

@KorvinStarmast well, most of the gods/celestial beeings besides a few exceptions dont really care. The warlocks patreon especially doesnt care (they know that because he smashed azmodeus to "just protect his investment")

For now they want to build their own town, thats their freshest idea

@KorvinStarmast the idea is from diablo 3 :D

@KorvinStarmast i did, but the problem is that they nearly got tpkd by an ahune and now they cant stop thinking about that issue and only discuss that issue.

@MikeQ you can - you have to destroy a whole plane for it.. For that i did create an item tho.

I know, because i did not expect them to actually find it that early.

@NautArch that also was my idea, but my players decided to just run randomly into this stupid forest and roll 30 on perception, find the chamber, roll 25 on arcana to find the book...

@MikeQ the effects of the book are thr problems, the book tries to corrupt them, e.g. They have nightmares, are exhausted, mindflayers and other creatures hunt them to get the book and so on.

@NautArch its not an evil campaign, but we all agreed that good and evil are very personal views, if the world would go for a world war because king a thinks king b is stupid, why not remake it?

@KorvinStarmast they know what will happen, they know there is a next era, but i guess they don't know that they can just everything if they want

Because the necronomicon already destroyed the world twice, the characters itself are already from a "destroyed" era

So they would need it in theory when they say : there is nothing more to do, lets do something new

Then they would start over with a new campaign, new locations, new map, new everthing, just traces of the old era remain

Era*

Once the last page has been read out loud all 7 grrat evils would emerge, kill literally everthing they find and end the current ero

Not really, the book basically is a magical creation, created by a evil good to destroy the world over and over again. Once a person attunes to it they can start reading it - in order to read the whole book they would have to go different stages of necromancy, become a litch, slay some dragons and so on.

The purpose itself was to have an item for the players to "finish" the campaign once they have reached all their goals and / or what they want to accomplish in this world

But i kinda hate myself for putting up so many restrictions for this stupid thing

Well, i tried to Check if there is a chat for my question but there isnt any i guess

I didn't even know that there was a specific chat for stackexchange...