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jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:26

@Zoredache It's the same now. I still configure it with just debconf scripts.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:21

Next time I say something like "Wait! Have you.." @David will histerically look what could he possible forget to do.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:17

Then it was another try(failed) to scare him like with shutdown time.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:16

ah, ok then.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:14

I mean /sbin/newaliases or restart MTA.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:13

have you asked MTA to reread /etc/aliases to apply changes?

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 21:12

@David, have you asked MTA to reread /etc/aliases to apply changes?

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 20:56

@David date, and date -U for UTC

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 20:56

@voretaq7 just sudo TZ=<timezone> shutdown -r <safe for users local time>

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 20:52

@David there's time zone set on your server, not UTC, am I right?

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 20:47

@voretaq7 i tend to believe it's more declarative like puppet. At least the configuration in docs is yaml. It uses Python and jinja2 templating system i'm already familiar with, so I'll try it. Another good reason for me is that it's going to appear in Debian soon.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 20:38

Found something comparative to puppet, but rather young and written in Python. saltstack.org Have anyone tried this?

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 19:37

Never thought someone will migrate anonymous idea from FTP

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 19:37

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Q: sftp with anonymous user

How I can set a anonymous sftp user ? I generate the ssh keys pair, set /usr/lib/sftp-server as shell in /etc/password and share the private key (id_rsa) and with this command the users get access sftp -oIdentityFile=id_rsa public_sftp@host is a good idea ?

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 19:32

Great, the user just deleted the question I was going to answer. Bad luck.

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 19:31

@WesleyDavid s/tool/fool/ somewhere perhaps?

jollyroger

Apr 20, 2012 18:59

@Joel my eyes... They're singing about cisco ( I heard this two or three times).

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 20:30

@84104 the same for me. But nevertheless I'm going to crack that Ruby because I want to know how to write puppet modules and read others' modules as well

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 20:28

@Basil I use Python when there's something sh cannot do in 30 lines. And it's portable as well on 90% of linux distros

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 20:27

@84104 you mean shitty? For system install - yes. Every other 'meant to be used by admins" tool requires exactly specific gem version no matter what. This gives a huge pain for maintainers.That's why lots of ruby software isn't in Debian still.

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 20:23

@Basil any monitoring system whitten in sh? No. Perl? MRTG comes in mind, nagios scripts, etc. Luckily for Python protagonists there's munin, but anyway even PHP has zabbix which is more luckily to be installed together with everythiong else in LAMP server. Cacti, then. A whole bunch of stuff. But lots of "log analyzers" on Ruby, puppet goes for Ruby too. And every other "new" thing is 90% written in Ruby.

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 20:18

I always thought Perl and later Python to be great tools for administrators. Hopefully these languages support in linux distros are pretty good. But for some reasons I see tonns of sysadmin applications written in Ruby which is a pain in the ass when it comes to system install and package management, bundlers, poor I/o, rvm et cetera. WHY???

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 18:34

There's another good utility i've found here is reptyr. Very usefull if you've forgotten to run something in screen session.

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 18:31

@ewwhite i already +1'd you. Great research and thanks for pv!

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 18:30

/me has RAID5 on home server.

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 18:28

@BartSilverstrim why?

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 17:57

@MDMarra if choosing between syslog implementations, take a look at rsyslog.

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 17:53

which gives you old server back

jollyroger

Apr 19, 2012 17:53

@Adrian now they should mount the same LVM/RAID

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 22:52

I still don't understand how to get caching on nginx right. This is like some task on physics: you should read the problem itself again and again until the problem is solved.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 22:51

@voretaq7 it has some specific concepts which are hard to get right the first time you use it before reading any documentation. So if you're just jump from Apache2 on it you'll get confused much by familiar directives which work not exactly like in Apache2. But once you know core and fastcgi module well everything is ok.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 22:46

@voretaq7 I wouldn't say so. I've never segfaulted it actually. Once I executed invoke-rc.d nginx restart instead of .. reload on a broken config which shut the server down, but I never missed since that time.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:51

@Ward, right, I just read about it. wisegeek.com/why-does-china-have-only-one-time-zone.htm

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:50

@Ward, no 5 timezones for China

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:46

@KennyRasschaert sometimes it's better to keep it the old way instead of "switching to w/o DST" forever. As an example: "Europe/Moscow" MSK tz is now UTC+4 forever, but its +2 here in Ukraine. Still these countries are neighbors and it's weird to move 200km to the East and change time for two hours.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:37

@Iain ah, I see.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:30

@Iain I mean, it should be 7:30 AM in UTC (your zone, depending on your profile), but you call it a day.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:28

committing from live site as working copy. Just great.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:27

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Q: from svn to git (+ LDAP + password-less updates + passworded access control)

We have an SVN setup and there are some things we dislike about it and some things we like about it. We want to move to git, but we're not sure exactly what setup will work for us. We're currently using SVN (w/ Authz) + Apache (w/ WebDAV & LDAP). Hook to update the live site [like] Live s...

apache2 svn git webdav gitolite

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:26

@Iain It doesn't seem like noon in UK.

jollyroger

Mar 23, 2012 07:19

Good morning, everyone

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 23:29

@AaronCopley, really interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 22:10

@voretaq7 I read this a year ago. Very good.

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 22:09

pretty interesting there

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 22:08

@MarkHenderson crypto class is running now: coursera.org/crypto/auth/welcome

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 21:46

@Ward just to know what's going on in this chat.

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 21:45

And what's this FC you're talking about?

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 21:44

didn't know before now. I should have guessed, so similar to irssi

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 21:44

@voretaq7 thanks for spotting that

jollyroger

Mar 22, 2012 21:43

s/mich/much/

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