David Carlisle

@John cmr10 inputs the same code but with serifs:=true; % should serifs and bulbs be attached? with a few other parameters changed as well, but the two files are just setting 80 or so parameters all the code for all the glyphs are the same.

@John not at all: it is sans serif because the serifs boolean is set to false. If you modified that file and set serifs:=true you'd get a serif font.

@John yes of course, cmss10.mf is cm with serifs:=false; % should serifs and bulbs be attached?

@JasperHabicht Wir alle wissen, dass es auch jeden Text fehlerfrei übersetzen kann.

@JasperHabicht it must be by definition since I asked google for the longest german word corresponding to an english sentence, and it suggested that. are you suggesting google can be wrong?

@John google suggests Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

@JasperHabicht prompted by @barbarabeeton's comment I looked for tag related tags and the system showed me all the questions tagged untagged, so I tagged them...

@John well they need some way of putting weird dots over letters and hyphenating whole sentences pretending to be words.

@samcarter that probably wasn't a 5-day test match

@samcarter the bbc run a live chat stream which will be open again during the test tomorrow, you should ask.

@John do you know the game of life ?

@samcarter did you say cricket ?

@John but in relation to your question about relation to Germany many tex developments originated there, doc, latex2e, L3, beamer, tikz, koma-script, ....

@Jasper there are other countries?

@Jasper no idea, It was in a conference announcement in the newsletter of the london mathematics society that landed in my inbox this afternoon, I don't know anything about it other than that link

@Jasper talkingmathsinpublic.uk/animation

@John that command got renamed: you can use \MaybeStop if the echos of German bother you.

@samcarter or...

@cfr not want but it may be better than nothing

@M.A. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/68052808#68052808

\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

aaaaa

\clearpage

{
  \pdfpagewidth=100bp
  \pdfpageheight=100bp
\setbox0\hbox{x}
\shipout\box0
}

bbbbb
\end{document}

@JasperHabicht like this where I ship out page 2 as a custom square page

@JasperHabicht the lines have already been broken by then so changing \hsize isn't going to do much, you need to change the box size (and the pdf media box)

@samcarter tagged-pdf tagpdf accessibility @barbarabeeton

@samcarter I see you are demonstrating how annoying duplicated text is:-)

@cfr the description is split into two an "info" and then a longer "wiki" and these edits just copy the info text into the wiki text which means you just see it twice, you see the short version, click "more info" and see exactly the same text

@samcarter isn't that the one I rejected?

@daleif I tried googling Fx meaning and got video special effects or currency exchange, both of which I'm familiar with.

@daleif possibly, but as I say I'm a native speaker (even if old) and wouldn't ever use fx in such a context and didn't immediately recognize it. But e.g I wouldn't even have noticed I would just have read it as plain text. Ask @barbarabeeton :-)

@daleif because eg (or better e.g.) is used as a standard word and not really thought of as an abbreviation but Fx is a more modern abbreviation from the texting generation, I had to double think what it meant here.

@daleif eg rather than Fx

@daleif it looks a bit ugly, a different way would be to not define them directly in the class and just define them with that warning if they are not defined by the time you test for them in \begin{document} that way people can just use \newcommand\fref... in the preamble

@daleif oh I suppose so I was thinking then you'd keep them but just with a message saying they were gone

@daleif why not \renewcommand ? but this will break old documents eg achives like arxiv that want to process old documents with a current texlive as far as possible

@JasperHabicht the box dimensions are not being used to set the pdf page box, which isn't how I remembered it working,

@Jasper main site is probably better, as it lets other context users know they are not the only one with context questions

@JasperHabicht I thought the shipout hook was the right place but even if I directly set this before the shipout the page size isn't changed (even if I do \shipout\hbox{aaa} it ships out the small box but with full page size, so the initial page size setting isn't working as i remembered, may look later

@JasperHabicht hmmm not where I expected

@JasperHabicht \wd\ShipoutBox=10cm ?

@John it's a standard context example from the context wiki I think originally

@JasperHabicht same here:-) (and also platex)

@JasperHabicht oh you just said what I posted in the overleaf link:-)

@mickep ^^ :-)

@John overleaf.com/read/dznmqfxvdqtz#f10ab7

@John "support" as in get help from their support desk or "support" as in, it's installed.

@John why can't you use context?

@JosephWright I thought all the iftex tests were failing and I'd have a big diff then I realised it just goes to the terminal and not the log (which is weird) so the tests all passed anyway (apart from the ones that didn't for other reasons)

@JosephWright ptex now (since it merged with uptex perhaps) writes guessed encoding to the terminal (but not the log) on every file it inputs have you seen that? or know how to stop it?