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@cfr At least it's talkative. That's the baseline for @PauloCereda's birds ;)

@PabloGonzálezL Yes, age-old tales of MacTeX being MacTeX…

Interesting. So no need for me testing it again too soon, I guess :D

@Skillmon I tried it for a few days a few years ago. But it definitely had its edges.

There's also the nyxt browser which is already quite good at becoming vim or emacs at your choice. And it's common lisp so it's super hackable.

@Skillmon Well, probably the whole OS integration part around the rendering engine. But yes, a good question.

@Skillmon Well, probably more verso (a browser built on servo) but yes, that might be more accessible for Rust :)

@Skillmon Yes, there's that. Especially since astonishingly few parts of firefox are actually readily accessible through Rust.

@Skillmon Well, there is a rusty gear as typical theme for icons too :)

@Skillmon I know, it's still something I can offer to help with in the learning process ;)

@Skillmon Well, it's more practical tutoring with @PauloCereda. I'm doing Rust coding and code review for a living, so giving feedback and pointers on some Rust code/issues is something I can help with ;)

@JosephWright Steno in German usually means Stenografie (shorthand writing).

@Skillmon … waiting for @DavidCarlisle to jump in and telling us LaTeX2e was released just a few years ago :D

@Skillmon Yes, 2014 or 2015. I've started with LaTeX around 2014 and I've seen this poster not long afterwards, so must be.

@Skillmon A few years ago? I'm getting old, I remember that very “Ich mach's mit LaTeX” joke poster from a decade ago :D

@Skillmon Do you mean his CV series at texdev.net/tags/#curriculum-vitae?

@mickep Yep using outlinetext. And @cis could start from something like this.

@mickep Well, no, because you use lmt_outline which you can't get outside ConTeXt world except when reimplementing everything.

@samcarter Don't worry, there would still be users so you would always have problem generators at least ;)

@daleif Display font or titling font (wikipedia) is what I would use for those.

@PauloCereda You could move to a proper editor instead ;)

@samcarter Depends. r for random placement might make sense regardless of horizontal orientation ;)

@Sebastiano Why do you expect the MikTeX maintainer to fix a problem in a software he only distributes and is not a developer of?

@Skillmon Probably. But we don't have much insight into GitHub actions. And on GitLab, caching works (to the point that was discussed in my TUG talk). A certain kind of caching is simply not supported with the latest images as I outlined at TUG (and we definitely do not suggest pulling the latest image every time if you can avoid it).

@DavidCarlisle One can always try if stat -c '%W %n' * | sort gives a sorted list matching one's intuition on the system (file birth time is mostly closer than modification, depends if the file system supports it). One can loop through that as well.

@AlanMunn There is no portable way for creation because some file systems and unices do not feature this. On some systems ls will have a proper switch so show it and then you can post-process the ls output. But not a portable sh/bash way.

@DavidCarlisle And don't forget the jurisdictions where the date does not matter only the lifetime of the creator (which are technically not copyright jurisdictions but working on a different principle).

The old ConTeXt pdftex manual looked more impressive, though :/

@DavidCarlisle tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2024-January/009374.html

@JosephWright The manual ConTeXt to LaTeX conversion?

@FelixMaldonado texdoc.org/serve/tikzducks/0

@PauloCereda Enjoy the cake and wish you a calm morning :)

@FelixMaldonado Right, so we want to see the source code, not some bad rendering of MathJax/KaTeX/whatever…

@PauloCereda Well, only if you have a rubber duck with a golden pen it seems ;)

@FelixMaldonado Why would you want to use tabularray for math alignment? Anything that amsmath (or maybe mathtools) environments don't handle?

The mpxerr file indicates that the first line is ` %&latex` (i.e., starting with a space, preventing the %& parsing). However, I do not really get why the use of outputtemplate should have any influence on the space being inserted or not.

outputtemplate := "%j-%2c.mps";

verbatimtex %&latex
  \documentclass{article}
  \begin{document}
etex

beginfig(1)
  label.lft(btex \textbf{J} etex,origin);
endfig;

end;

Does anyone have an idea why the following code does not compile with mpost as is but compiles just fine if I comment the outputtemplate line?

@PauloCereda At least we don't use TeX anymore to do stuff in arara (not even for the documentation) ;)

@campa Well, at least with a few spelling mistakes in there :D

@UlrikeFischer Thanks for checking, then it's probably an installation issue of the user and not a MikTeX packaging issue.

@UlrikeFischer Thanks :)

@UlrikeFischer The right version would be 7.1.2. The issue is that MikTeX indicates 7.1.2 installed but when executing arara --version it shows 7.0.4

@PauloCereda Somehow it's not surprising you didn't respond to it yet ;)

Anyone with MikTeX around? A user complained about the wrong arara version being distributed. Could anyone confirm that MikTeX distributes the wrong version?

@mickep But I actually love it when Hans enables new styles so that users can decide instead of deciding for them.

@mickep No, I haven't. I would never want to write it that way :D

@Skillmon You could also start with that and wait for the feature request to extend it if people want it.

@Skillmon I know that without [opt] you would usually omit braces. As I said, it's just personal habit to try to scope things when I have some modifying prefixes which I consider [opt] to be. As it already adds symbols, I don't feel the braces to be a visual burden or anything like that. But I guess you got your answer that probably “both allowed” is the approach to satisfy different habits in that regard ;)

That said, most users will probably expect it to work without braces given their experience in the TeX ecosystem.