Multiclass + scrolls = ?

Discussion over whether scroll-use rules in 5E would require a...
Jan 15, 2023 07:12
@DCShannon: do you at least understand my agreement points 1 & 2? How the different parsings make sense, and how they give rise to the different readings?
Jan 15, 2023 02:19
(Though I'm still trying to phrase that in a way that makes sense to DCShannon.)
Jan 15, 2023 02:18
I take some issue with the latter point, especially as "spell level" has different usages, yet DCShannon seems to assert that "spell level" only has one meaning.
Jan 15, 2023 02:06
DCShannon's argument also depends on the assertion that the spell's level refers to the level when upcast (arising from the "higher level than you can normally cast" parsing), rather than the level that spells are classified under.
Jan 15, 2023 02:05
Since it's based on the total spellcaster level, the "for each class individually" rule wouldn't apply.
Jan 15, 2023 02:01
The argument put forth by DCShannon is based on the spell slots available to a character, which are based on their total caster levels, rather than any 1 class, and determined by the multiclasser spell slots table and the total spellcaster level (with a calculation specified in the "Spell Slots" subsection of the multiclassed spellcaster rules).
Jan 12, 2023 02:02
(Hopefully, DCShannon will return to confirm, or give his own analysis.)
Jan 12, 2023 01:30
It's the other parsing, "If (the spell is […] of a higher level) than you can normally cast", that is in terms of what spell levels are available to a character, which does depend on the multiclass spellcasting rule you quote.
Jan 12, 2023 01:28
Start with the parsing "If the spell is […] of (a higher level than you can normally cast)" (which I posit is the source of his reading). This isn't in terms of the spell levels available to the cleric class, but the casting level (my terminology)/spell level when upcasting (more his terminology), or highest slot level, which isn't dependent on any 1 class, but the multiclass spellcasting rules.
Jan 12, 2023 01:27
@Matthieu: while I can't speak for DCShannon, I can apply my understanding of his analysis for an answer.
Jan 11, 2023 02:20
Before arguments and counter-arguments, I'd like to establish exactly what is under disagreement, and what is under agreement, so there can be progress. Otherwise there will never be a resolution.
Jan 10, 2023 06:53
An assertion related to the last point (#6) is that cast level and spell level are the same (which would be included in "slot and cast level are different"). However, I would disagree with that statement. Where do you stand on it?
Jan 10, 2023 06:48
Some possible points of agreement:
1. The parsing "If (the spell is […] of a higher level) than you can normally cast" refers to spell level.
2. The parsing "If the spell is […] of (a higher level than you can normally cast)" refers to cast level.
3. When it comes to upcasting, a multiclassed druid 9/cleric 1 can cast at (slot/cast) level 5.
4. When it comes to spell levels, a (multiclassed) cleric 1 cannot normally cast.
5. Spell level and slot level are different things.
6. Slot level and cast level may be considered different things or the same thing (yet to be established).
Jan 10, 2023 06:47
To get things started, some points of disagreement:
1. The parsing (whence reading) of "If the spell is […] of a higher level than you can normally cast"
2. Whether the level requirements in the scroll use rule involve character class.
 

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@WorldEngineer: thanks for the related questions & advice.
Jul 27, 2015 21:38
@WorldEngineer This one involves both, but isn't about the connection between them.
Jul 27, 2015 21:37
@WorldEngineer Point 2 of this answer suggest a connection related to composition, but doesn't go into enough detail to complete it.
Jul 27, 2015 21:36
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Jul 27, 2015 21:20
>The key idea in tacit programming is to assist in operating at the appropriate level of abstraction. That is, to translate the natural transformation given by currying into computer functions
Jul 27, 2015 21:20
Part of it is asserted in the Wikipedia article on tacit programming:
Jul 27, 2015 21:17
The question is: "What's the (deeper) connection between currying and point-free style/tacit programming?"
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Codepad.com doesn't like it, but the modified version runs fine on other codepads, such as: ideone.com/nCryWl
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As-is, next == instruction. However, if next gets initialized before after->next = instruction, then next holds the original tail, and the next->previous = iter; iter->next = next; appends the original tail to the newly inserted list.
Jul 24, 2015 11:51
I pulled out the function to test it, and I get a memory error when run (codepad.org/wBbHpyaA).
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@CAgrippa, Maria Lin: further to CAgrippa's comments, tin and lead can be smelted at campfire temperatures, and thus are easily discovered by accident. Tin and lead are softer than gold and generally comparable or weaker in strength; gold is the most useful of the three on their own (tin is quite useful in alloys when another metal makes up the bulk). Are you terribly concerned with the "why" of the lack of metal working? I suppose there's always "God(s) did it", if your world has such beings present (then you get to go into the psychology of gods, which can be fun).
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It's been interesting, but it's well past my bedtime.
Feb 6, 2012 13:35
Now, knowledge whether a given statement is true or false is another matter.
Feb 6, 2012 13:35
In any case, we've strayed from my original statement: truth doesn't require a mind. More precisely, a logical statement doesn't require a mind for it to be true (even conditionally true).
Feb 6, 2012 13:30
They are unconditionally true.
Feb 6, 2012 13:29
Tautologies are statements that are true in all possible interpretations in all possible worlds (in the logical sense of "worlds").
Feb 6, 2012 13:28
What do you mean by "base rule"? That term seems to better describe axioms that tautologies.
Feb 6, 2012 13:27
Except there's no "when in life" when it comes to math. Tautologies aren't axioms.
Feb 6, 2012 13:26
Tautalogies are unconditional.
Feb 6, 2012 13:24
That's splitting hairs. Moreover, there are certain statements in logic that are universal.
Feb 6, 2012 13:23
Of course, mathematical truth is quite different from what most people mean by "Truth".