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MaestroGlanz
yst 09:35
@cfr Then I better create a package, that is just an interface for LuaTeX to make the alternates and everything more accessible.
MaestroGlanz
yst 09:11
Off-topic question: Who of you uses Linux/Mac/Windows
MaestroGlanz
yst 09:04
@JosephWright But I have to set it up once. And putting my phone number into Github creates more threats than it eliminates.
MaestroGlanz
yst 09:03
I disagree... If someone has access to my machine, he will inject code. If he hasn't he has to get access via github. And this means, that they hadn't proper brute force protection. And this is not difficult. There aren't a lot of scenarios, where an attacker has no access to my machine and benefits from no-2FA. I agreee for other projects. If I maintain the source code for the SSL-encryption, then it makes sense.
MaestroGlanz
yst 08:59
@cfr Yes, but I had to hack the kerning. I prefer solid solutions over dirty hacks.
MaestroGlanz
yst 08:58
Because github is not what it used to be. (Very well and nicely phrased)

I think, I will move to gitlab. Github is bothering me with 2FA. Bitbucket has no issue section. You have to set up Jira-SM for that. No thanks....
MaestroGlanz
yst 08:55
@cfr I create confusion, because I lack clarity myself yet.
MaestroGlanz
yst 08:55
I use only OFL fonts.
MaestroGlanz
yst 06:58
You can see here, what I did with that:
https://bitbucket.org/maestro-glanz/liederbuch-sondergut/raw/30f05e6e2f80fba975b8fff6fc197ec4c7ecd6c5/Erlangenlied_Wandbild/Erlangenlied_greg_drei_Strophen.pdf
It's a gregorio with Slavkappen.
MaestroGlanz
yst 06:54
Several. It is mainly the Monte Carlo by Rob Leuschke and the Slavkappen. The Slavkappen is in my opinion a very good font, but the long s is just wrong. From what I got so far.
1. It is better to edit the font than to fix it on LaTeX-level.
2. The fd-file tells pdfLaTeX, what to use from the font. It is not necessary by LuaTeX, but usable by it
3. For Monte Carlo it makes only sense create an fd-file to make the private area in the utf coding accessible. But in doubt, better stick to Lua(La)TeX.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 12:11
€ was just an example, since I don't have the long s on my work keyboard (windows). Okay, that means fd-files only for pdflatex. So LuaLaTeX doesn't need the fd-files, or do I need something additionally for LuaLaTeX. I used fontspec already under LuaLaTeX. Is this the thing, you mean.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:50
@DavidCarlisle Is there any way then to "fix" these fonts. I did something like \catcode´€=13 \def€{\detokenize{€}\kern -0.1em\relax} already (simplified). For testing purposes. But this may easily break.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:45
I looked at it before already, but now with that extra information and looking again, it's a bit clearer. I will look at one of the fd files first, before I proceed.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:34
I saw these, but I had a hard time understanding these.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:28
Can I adjust the kerning for certain character combinations in the fd file? Because this is one of the most frequent issues, I run into. A font has nice glyphs, but the kerning is just a mess.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:26
I mean feature like "textbf" -> "bold weigh 3", because the author called it that way.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:20
This kind of stuff: https://www.fontspace.com/category/svg

Yes, it's fugly....
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:19
@DavidCarlisle So, the fd file is only a conversion between the standard LaTeX commands and the font features.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 11:18
@DavidCarlisle I just read about svg-fonts before. And this article said so.
MaestroGlanz
Thu 10:57
And svg seems to be the state of the art. Right?
MaestroGlanz
Thu 10:56
@cfr Type1=T1? I didn't get very far yet. You mean the various tools, not fools, right. Similar, but not the same. I googled a bit. But didn't get me far either. Is it more or less easy to convert a ttf to fd? As I see, ttf and otf is the same by now (or isn't it?). metafont, complete different thing. But how does the fd come in here. I also had a look at what David mentioned. But I'm still missing some clarity.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 15:37
What's an fd-file? I guess font definition. Can you tell me something about it?
MaestroGlanz
Wed 15:33
@cfr Even better. Then I will be finished soon. It's only about the concept.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 08:48
@DavidCarlisle Would be strongly restricted to church events. I also think, it sound a but weird as a package name. Right now I favor the German term "festfolge" and the anglo saxonian world has to live with it. Yes, I pretend, that a lot of people will use it. It keeps me motivated and gives me a deceptive sense of importance.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 08:43
Other thing: I'm working on another package (again). It is for creating booklets for events. In German it is Festfolge, Ablauf, Liedheft. Like these small booklets for church weddings, where they print the songs and prayers. My question: What do you call these? I haven't found any English term yet, that would please me.

All that stuff, which I'm doing right now, is somehow connected. Including the font stuff.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 08:32
@cfr Yes. Which package are you referring to? I might have a look into that.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 08:02
I just want to gather a bit of input for ideas here before starting and creating a chaos. But start slow than thrice.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 08:00
@JasperHabicht We are creating a carpet here. One thread interwoven with the other one.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:59
Then I might create a curated fonts package soon. Requirements will be: Unique design but usable, free license, good kerning, wrapped symbols = compatibility with standard keyboard under babel, compatibility with an example document for example text. Because creating only one package per font, will create a mess imo.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:55
It's OFL. So it's good. I only redistribute OFL. Because, you know, license mess...
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:54
:67272286 You though, you had something and you didn't...?
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:53
The thing is, that some features must be accessed by weird unicode, where a cs would be helpful.
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:52
what is the policy here? Do we have enough fonts, is there a need, a standard?
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:52
I have a thing here. You might know Edwardian Scrtipt, which is nice and curly and has a kerning, that hardly needs correction. Unfortunately, it is not free, only free of charge. I stumbled across Monte Carlo, which is really nice and has a lot of decoration features. I would be willing to create a wrapper here and submit the result to ctan, but.....
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:49
Gooooood morning,
MaestroGlanz
Wed 07:49
Which document class are you using? In the past, I had a nothing to aux problem in koma, but not in standard.
MaestroGlanz
Feb 10 15:26
Does TeX perceive any vskip as pagebreakable or is it possible to make it even a little bit easier to have a pagebreak.
MaestroGlanz
Feb 6 15:54
I observed some strange behaviour of TeX.SE. When I go to the questions with activity tab, it very often shows me questions from years ago. When I check for any comments in 2025 or even bot edits, I see nothing. Why? Do upvotes count as activity?
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 17:24
@DavidCarlisle Yes, you are right. One backslash missing.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 09:54
@Skillmon I assume, I understood it correctly then.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 09:50
If i.e. hyperref redefines 5 things and I want to exempt one, but want to have the others, this is one way to go.

Was just an idea. Since I solved my fragility problem anyway, I don't need it myself either. I though, maybe someone else needs it.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 09:12
I just tested it. It works, but I first didn't understand why. As the definition of \relax is copied to \definition, \definition is a TeX-primitive (right?). And \relax doesn't die in an edef (which I didn't know yet). When does the compiler kill the \relax then? Never at expansion, I would conclude. It is simply executed to nothing in the execution run, when an expansion run over the document didn't expand anything any more, right?
I'm not an expert like many others here. So I have to ask.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 08:44
@Skillmon It is defined to itself. Like a recursion. This redefinition will make it survive any edef on the way. And as long as it is not typeset within begin-document, it doesn't matter, what the current definition is. It is of course better to not built fragile stuff in the first place.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 07:34
*idea for an package.... it's still early here.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 21 07:34
I had an idea of a package, that can "beam" definitions to another place. Basic idea is to ´\let\tempN\definition`, `\def\definition{\unexpanded{unexpanded{definition}}}` and at the receiving point \let\defition\tempN. Latest AtBeginDocument all definitions are reverted. This can help with fragile commands, that break in the document. It can help to resolve package conflicts. On the other hand, this comes close to the infamous go-to command.

Do or don't? Opinions about it.
 

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MaestroGlanz
Jan 16 16:32
@JosephWright Agree. From all the resources I have seen, this looked most "approachable" to me. What I'm missing so far, is a list of built in functions like cs_set. A thing, which is really hard for me to see, is, what thing are predefined and which things are defined by the respective author. There is probably such a list somewhere in these documents, but I haven't seen it yet.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 16 10:23
@JosephWright So even dimens are disguised integers. Why don't add a TeX-primitive \newfloatp and \newfixedp. Should be (relatively) easy to implement (evil project manager perspective) and have a lot of benefit.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 16 10:12
@JosephWright Nah. This was just curiosity. dimens are accurate enough. I allow explicitely 5% error.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 16 10:11
I know. You do. But I can mentally engage in projects, I will never have enough time to do. And it would have a second benefit. It would be possible to enforce scopes.
MaestroGlanz
Jan 16 10:05
Yes, but....pdflatex could redefine explsyntaxon/-off and call an internal c-library for these segments. Therefore circumvent the whole expansion.