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Jan 19, 2016 16:56
Quick question, or at least I hope so. When you have an electromagnet with an air coil would having an extremely tiny air coil diameter relative to the electromagnet's volume weaken the electromagnet strength? (Example: a 1inx1inx1in electromagnet with a 3mm diameter aircoil versus a bigger air coil).
 

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Jan 3, 2016 19:26
@JonRB I wanted to confirm my understanding on something. You had mentioned PWM frequency and inductance. I figure I find the inductance of the electromagnet but the PWM frequency is determined by f = 1/(2*pi(LC)^0.5), correct?
Jan 2, 2016 02:30
@JonRB I wanted to confirm my understanding on something. You had mentioned PWM frequency and inductance. I figure I find the inductance of the electromagnet but the PWM frequency is determined by f = 1/(2*pi(LC)^0.5), correct?
Jan 2, 2016 00:17
ok! Thank you so much!
Jan 2, 2016 00:14
@JonRB So I would have to be careful not to have over 1A specifically to the output pins, correct?
Jan 2, 2016 00:12
@JonRB Thank you so much! It seems like the 'absolute maximum current' rating that both transistors can handle (datasheet 9.3.1) is 1 amp continuous but 2 amps would be at critical levels.
Jan 2, 2016 00:04
@JonRB oh! Voltage at the output is also Vcc2 (looking at 9.3.1 on the data sheet). Current flows from Vcc2 to Output, but the load amperage is contingent on ohm's law.
Jan 1, 2016 21:27
@JonRB, if I don't use PWM on any of the input pins and connect Vcc2 to a 12V DC power supply, what would the current be at my input (A) and output (Y) pins?
Jan 1, 2016 21:23
I'm watching a video to understand that part.
Jan 1, 2016 21:11
I found this: T = L/R seconds.
So the oscilloscope would give me T, I know R, just need to find L, yeah?
Jan 1, 2016 21:07
What to do with the current rise value?
Jan 1, 2016 21:04
Or does it matter as long as the arduino could detect the voltage at the output pins?
Jan 1, 2016 21:03
Is there a way I could determine inductance of my electromagnets since it seems important in this case?
Jan 1, 2016 21:03
Okay at arduino part.
Jan 1, 2016 21:03
I'm using a DC supply.
Jan 1, 2016 21:01
Wait, is this in the case of an AC supply? What if I'm using a 12V DC?
Jan 1, 2016 21:00
Oh, I think I get what you mean. You mean in my arduino code or whatever I need to inspect the voltage at pins 1Y through 4Y.
Jan 1, 2016 20:58
instead of a 555
Jan 1, 2016 20:58
I could get arduino to do the PWM at those pins, right?
Jan 1, 2016 20:57
I'll look up hystersis control.
Jan 1, 2016 20:55
The duty cycle at pin 2A would then determine the current at the output 2Y?
Jan 1, 2016 20:55
If let's say 1A is low and 2A is high (arduino setting), the circuit should PWM at 2A and do no PWM at 1A?
Jan 1, 2016 20:53
I was letting that sink in... Let me see if I get it, I put the PWM at the input pins (1A, 2A, 3A, 4A) and the pwm/current at the input pins will be seen at the output pins 1Y-4Y.
Jan 1, 2016 20:48
Is the PWM at Vcc2? or rather the output pins?
Jan 1, 2016 20:47
How do you determine the PWM and current?
Jan 1, 2016 20:46
I'm using the Arduino to change the logic/direction.
Jan 1, 2016 20:43
I'm trying to do something like this: www.e-alexander.net/magic_slippers.php
Jan 1, 2016 20:43
I need it to repel/attract and also stop.
Jan 1, 2016 20:42
I need it to go in both directions, yeah.
Jan 1, 2016 20:41
I'm a beginner.
Jan 1, 2016 20:41
Oh, I tried doing a BJT h-bridge and one of my transistors overheated. Then I was told that it's hard to find proper h-bridge schematics... I don't really know what I need to do.
Jan 1, 2016 20:40
I'm not too sure, but here's what I think I understand: In order to have a 0.5A output (or my desired current at the output) I need to use PWM at vcc2, best achieved with a 555, yeah?
Jan 1, 2016 20:35
3.0V because I thought the 1A would mess up the chip.
Jan 1, 2016 20:35
I was originally using a 3.0V that was giving 0.85A current even though I know that's well over the recommended minimum. I actually want to use a 12V power supply.
Jan 1, 2016 20:34
I'm not sure about inductance and getting those values.
Jan 1, 2016 20:34
They're hand-wound electromagnets. The resistance is small like 5 Ohms.
Jan 1, 2016 20:33
I really want to have a 0.5~0.7A current going through the electromagnets.
Jan 1, 2016 20:32
Okay, I see on the datasheet it recommends a 0.1uF capacitor at Vcc1 and Vcc2, is this what you're talking about when you mention decoupling capacitors?
Jan 1, 2016 20:30
@JonRB Okay. I want to better understand how the current value at the output pins are determined and the max current this IC could take.
Jan 1, 2016 19:46
Hi everyone, could someone help me understand how to read the sn754410 datasheet (ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn754410.pdf) At the absolute maximum rating section (7.1) it mentions Ip (Peak output current) and Io (Continous output current). I want to understand if the power source that Vcc2 is connected to provide a current of 1A would also mean that Io = 1A? Does the current at Vcc2 affect the peak output current and/or continuous output current?