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WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:13
I'll go now, best of luck with your paper!
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:13
take a look at this paper:
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/…
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:12
(I was done with that turn)
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:12
good luck with your paper!
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:12
haha, sure
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:12
two people suddenly came
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:11
you would have to elicit some sentences like
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:11
haha
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:11
for regular clauses of course
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:11
the word order generalisations are, roughly:
a) topics always come first
b) agents never get behind the verb
c) focus behind the verb
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:10
unless you do some left or right dislocation
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:10
you definitely can't get VSO, VOS, or OVS
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:09
it's not exactly that either
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:09
SVO
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:08
but this is because when you're taking a typological perspective
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:08
Well, from a typological perspective, it's not wrong
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:08
two clauses, yeah
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:08
btw, about word order, you probably thought Cantonese was SVO right?
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:07
right
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:07
e.g. you may have figured out that the 'adjectives' are actually verbs
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:07
but there would have been other advantages
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:07
most obviously, it would have helped you make sense of the focus constructions
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:06
yeah
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:05
a lot of things would make sense if you did
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:05
the fact that you didn't ask for relative clauses is a pretty big gap
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:05
oh one more thing
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:05
but don't worry about that - it's hard to without having actual texts
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:05
and I'm sure you didn't figure out any of the sentence-final particles
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:04
and wouldn't make these mistakes
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:04
unless you're planning to work on an isolate in a remote area with little language contact, you'd probably read a lot more on languages of the area beforehand
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:04
I think most of the mistakes you made were perfectly normal for someone with no background of the language family
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:03
yeah
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:02
haha
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:02
so I can't blame you for making the mistake
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:02
I mean, having the same construction for expressing definiteness and indefiniteness is weird
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:01
haha yeah
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:01
you were probably confident what was going on, and changed two things instead of using a minimal pair
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:01
like the town vs village one
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:01
is not to be
too
confident in what you think your analysis is
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:01
I think a main thing you can improve
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:00
but if it doesn't I believe it was chapter 2 or something
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:00
the link should take you to the Cantonese chapter
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 11:00
and from a good linguist (one of my undergrad profs)
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:59
though it's not the main focus
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:59
this paper discusses causatives somewhat
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:59
s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/32571950/…
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:59
in the meantime
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:58
probably later, I'm going to bed soon
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:58
not today though
WavesWashSands
Mar 7, 2020 10:58
you can, I'll answer it