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5:00 PM
@Rhodri Well, fair enough. (I still respectfully disagree with the label.)
@Vitaly But that is a good point.
 
@JSBangs Then I am not militant, since I don't happen to think only stupid people are religious. That is contrary to the fact, and it would have been irrational of me to think like that. However, I do think that religious people are… uh… too good at compartmentalising.
 
Gentlemen.
I'm afraid the flesh and bones version of my Gravatar needs me.
Thanks a lot for this interesting chat.
Time to head home and play hide and seek.
TTYL
 
CU @AlainPannetier
 
bye, @AlainPannetier
 
@AlainPannetier Buddhists go to great lengths to brush the teeth of golden statues. If that ain't religion, then nothing is.
 
5:03 PM
anyway, @Vitaly if we had a fundie of any stripe in here behaving in a similar manner, i'd call them militant
 
^ word
 
@RegDwight How does World of Warcraft fit into that definition?
 
if we want to restrict the meaning "militant" to the actual use of force against enemies, i'd be okay with that. though in practice that's not what people usually mean by the term
 
I'm not sure if my answer to this is readable.
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Q: Simple past vs. passed instance in published novel

Heinrich MoltkeHello, all! A certain book by a famous author has been released in a new second edition. Unfortunately, it appears some changes have been made for the worse. For instance, in the first edition: "[..] a message for you about the next age, and the one just past." This has been changed in the se...

 
@JSBangs I think that usage is more applicable to politics, etc.
 
5:07 PM
@JSBangs Yeah, that would make pretty much everyone non-militant, leaving a gap to be filled by a new word.
 
@MikeVaughan The last sentence seems a bit awkward but otherwise it looks good.
 
@MrHen that's what I thought.
 
@RegDwight I was partial to "radical." I wonder what happened to that term.
 
But I'm having trouble finding another way to convey the sentence's message.
 
I am partial to the atheist/untheist distinction.
 
5:08 PM
and i'd suggest, again, that the religious counterpoint to a "militant atheist" is a "fundamentalist". the combination of certitude and aggressiveness that we refer to as "fundamentalism" in religion is basically what we have in "militant atheism". and both forms do occasionally turn violent.
 
untheist?
 
Hear what @JSBangs said, you theists? I am about to turn violent. You'd better convert to atheism, right now.
 
@Vitaly i didn't say you were going to turn violent. i just said that militant atheism occasionally begets violence
 
Apr 30 at 13:52, by RegDwight
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@Vitaly Thanks for the read, man.
 
5:10 PM
4 hours ago, by Vitaly
RegDwight, Europe, GMT+1
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@MrDisappointment You are welcome.
 
i giggle every time i see that
 
@JSBangs Any specific examples?
 
Hey, I might be Adolf Hitler, but at least I'm not a militant atheist!
 
Just like Hitler!
 
@Vitaly Haha, LW. Were you the one I was talking to briefly about LW/EY?
 
5:12 PM
Hitler was Catholic.
 
@MrHen I don't remember, but LW was mentioned here a few times.
 
And vegetarian. Just like me.
 
Hitler was just Hitler.
 
Crazy talk.
 
@Vitaly Mmk. I just remember it happening once.
 
5:14 PM
@Vitaly And every single time it was mentioned by... you! :P
 
The title of New Martyr or Neomartyr (, neo, the prefix for "new"; and μάρτυς, martys, "witness") of the Eastern Orthodox Church was originally given to martyrs who died under heretical rulers (the original martyrs being under pagans). Later the Church added to the list those martyred under Islam and various modern regimes, especially Communist ones, which espoused militant atheism. Officially, the era of the New Martyrs begins with the fall of Constantinople in 1453. Among those commemorated are not only those who gave their lives in martyrdom, but also those who are accounted as confesso...
 
:D
@JSBangs Thanks.
 
Society of the Godless (); other names include Союз воинствующих безбожников (The Union of Belligerent Atheists or The League of the Militant Godless) and Союз безбожников (The Union of the Godless), was a mass volunteer antireligious organization of Soviet workers and others in 1925–1947. It "consisted of Party members, members of the Komsomol youth movement, workers and army veterans". S.o.G. was an antireligious movement that developed in Soviet Russia under the influence of the ideological and cultural views and policies of the Communist Party. S.o.G. embraced workers, peasants, stud...
State atheism has been defined as the official "promotion of atheism" by a government, typically by active suppression of religious freedom and practice. State promotion of atheism as a public norm was first practised during a brief period in Revolutionary France. Since then, such a policy was repeated only in Revolutionary Mexico and some communist states. State atheism may include active opposition to religion, and persecution of religious institutions, leaders and believers. However, whether such persecution was truly motivated by atheism is disputed by others. The Soviet Union had ...
 
Excellent. First, Vitaly's Wikipedia links proved to me that God doesn't exist. Now, JSBangs' Wikipedia links prove to me that God does exist.
 
Speaking about Communists…
Apr 30 at 21:05, by Vitaly
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5:17 PM
And this image proves that I exist.
If only everything were so easy!
 
@RegDwight New Godwin's Law: Eventually, all conversations will prove something about RegDwight.
 
@RegDwight no, this picture only claims that you are an owl with a red scarf and a trumpet. since we know there are no owls that play the trumpet (they prefer the bassoon), it proves that you don't exist
 
@JSBangs Whilst playing the trumpet. If you stop playing the trumpet, you can exist again.
 
@JSBangs That owl doesn't play the trumpet. It only holds it.
 
@RegDwight enough with your jesuitical sophistry
 
5:19 PM
I can't play trumpet, in point of fact. But I can hold one, in point of fact.
 
It's not a trumpet either. It's a clarion.
 
That one I can hold, too.
 
Or a bugle.
 
@RegDwight If I could quickly edit things, I would edit your owl to hold yourself.
 
you guys are just trying to obscure the TRUTH by making meaningless distinctions that don't actually matter. who the hell knows what a clarion is anyway?
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
@RegDwight is a lie!
 
5:20 PM
Or possibly Keanu Reeves.
 
Thank God for Keanu Reeves.
 
Would make more sense to thank his parents.
 
ok guys, it's been fun talking, but i really have to get back to work now
TTYL
 
See, that was a carefully laid trap. Now we know whom Vitaly thanks in lieu of God.
@JSBangs CU.
 
How the hell did you moved from God to the Trumpet and then to Keanu Reeves? lol :D
 
5:23 PM
Is there anybody using ClaimID to log in to SE?
 
@Alenanno The keyword is indeed hell.
 
@RegDwight Wow. I must admit: That was well done.
 
3 hours ago, by RegDwight
Hey, we're not called the incomprehensible room for no reason!
 
It would be harder to move God close to Keanu Reeves.
 
Yeah, I agree. Let's all stop talking about God. Let's actually talk about something that does exist.
 
5:24 PM
room topic changed to English Language and Usage: General discussion about God
 
lol
 
Now what?
 
@RegDwight Add (in English) at the end?
 
Should it be "Good"?
 
room topic changed to English Language and Usage: General discussion about God. По-русски.
 
5:25 PM
My trap actually worked better than I intended.
 
Ahah
 
I wanted you to start talking about God all over again.
And even the topic has been changed.
Yay me!
 
The only one talking about God right now is you.
 
Nope:
 
I am talking about unicorns. Always have, always will.
 
5:26 PM
1 min ago, by RegDwight
room topic changed to English Language and Usage: General discussion about God
 
@RegDwight But not по-русски, he's still using English.
 
@Alenanno See, you get it.
I am not talking in Russian, just as I am not talking about God.
 
If you talked in Russian I might try to see what I have forgotten about it lol
 
@Alenanno Just read the transcript.
Lots of Russian stuff in there.
 
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Q: Simple past vs. passed instance in published novel

Heinrich MoltkeHello, all! A certain book by a famous author has been released in a new second edition. Unfortunately, it appears some changes have been made for the worse. For instance, in the first edition: "[..] a message for you about the next age, and the one just past." This has been changed in the se...

I feel like the question was already asked, in someway.
 
5:28 PM
@RegDwight the what? where?
 
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Q: "Passed" vs "past": Usage in an error message

Ben JacksonI wrote code to detect a problem where live video playout of a file had moved beyond the end of the clip on disk. The clip itself may be growing due to an ongoing recording or a transfer of the file across a network. The error message described the effect ("displayed black") followed by a helpf...

Perhaps?
 
@Alenanno Search the chat for any Russian letter.
 
Does anyone know if Electorate works with downvotes on questions?
Or do they have to be upvotes?
 
Votes.
As in any vote.
Up or down.
 
@MrHen Yep. Thank you.
 
5:32 PM
Only votes in God's name.
 
@RegDwight As in both?
 
Specifically, in this God's name:
 
@RegDwight found something... anyway the description "Voted on 600 questions and 25% or more of total votes are on questions." doesn't make sense to me... If you vote on 600 questions... Isn't 100% of votes on questions? lol
 
@Vitaly That's not Chtulhu.
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Q: List of all badges with full descriptions

Popular DemandWhat is each badge? Jump to: Regular badges A-L and M-Z Tag badges Badge families Area 51 badges Return to FAQ index NOTE: Some badges are awarded based on score. The term score, in this context, means the total amount of upvotes minus the total amount of downvotes.

Read that one.
Ignore everything else.
 
whoa lol
Thanks
 
5:35 PM
@MrHen Yep; down votes and up votes are both included.
> Voted on 600 questions and 25% or more of total votes are on questions.
What a silence.
 
@kiamlaluno I was too busy on the main site. Speaking of which, hi @Alain.)))
 
wow. only half an hour away and more than one page to read !!!
@RegDwight, sorry about the dup. That was not intentional.
 
@AlainPannetier Actually, I was considering leaving it open, as I sometimes do, so that it can collect a bunch of fresh answers that can later get merged into the original, you know?
 
45 mins actually
That's fine. I can add my own findings in a while to the first version. That will revive it.
 
Yeah, it's really a pity that the answers you were getting weren't that stellar, so I had to close.
But it's an interesting question. Always worth bringing some attention to.
 
5:51 PM
hej
 
The Eastern Arabic numerals (also called Arabic-Indic numerals and Arabic Eastern Numerals) are the symbols () used to represent the Hindu-Arabic numeral system in conjunction with the Arabic alphabet in the countries of the Arab world and other countries using the Arabic alphabet. Other names They are sometimes also called "Indic Numerals" in English. However, this nomenclature is sometimes discouraged as it leads to confusion with the numerals used in the scripts of India (see Indian numerals). Numerals There is substantial variation in usage of glyphs for the Eastern Arabic-Ind...
that's all I've got for now.
 
@Boob hey
@AlainPannetier was it the numbers question?
 
@Alenanno. Yes.
hi @Boob
 
@AlainPannetier your question was extremely interesting
 
I agree with @Boob ... @AlainPannetier are you on the Linguistics.StackExchange?
 
5:56 PM
The answers should be even more ;-) Just add them to the original q. I just browse through them and there was nothing to run out of the mill.
So I guess there are still some room for progress.
@Alenanno. Yes bit AFAIK it's not open yet.
Euhemerus ( [Euhēmeros], "happy; prosperous") (late 4th century BC) was a Greek mythographer at the court of Cassander, the king of Macedon. Euhemerus' birthplace is disputed, with Messina in Sicily as the most probable location, while others champion Chios, or Tegea. Euhemerism He is chiefly known for a rationalizing method of interpretation, known as Euhemerism, that treats mythological accounts as a reflection of historical events, but shaped by retelling and traditional mores. The intellectual climate was prepared for this development, Jean Seznec observed at the start of his Survival...
@RegDwight that's why Buddhists clean their statues' teeth
 
I'm not quite following.
 
He theorises that heroe is the state before god.
The Buddha did not want to be deified. Hence the wheel.
But people need to.
This is probably not relevant anyway.
 
@AlainPannetier you use HTML tags here?
 
@AlainPannetier The thing is, worshipping golden statues is worshipping golden statues, and paying priests for superstitious merchandise is paying priests for superstitious merchandise.
 
@Boob, you mean <br>. Does not work in chat. Try shift+ret.
 
6:05 PM
Also, did you know what happened to Jesus after his resurrection? No, he didn't go to Heaven. According to Buddhism, he went to India to study... Buddhism.
 
@RegDwight I have this book as well.
at home.
Did jesus live in India or something like this. No ?
 
@RegDwight I'm here to hit "star as interesting" , no worries .. but the only problem is my salary is not enough to support my life, please consider
 
I glimpsed Jesus in the street , yesterday night
 
@AlainPannetier Hehe. Just to set the record straight: I don't have that book. Where I come from, that's general knowledge or something.
 
6:11 PM
I ... think I need to vacate this room ...
Such an interesting conversation tho
 
@drachenstern What drives you away? Hopefully not the room description?
 
But honestly. He seemed to have been in quite a few places only to be beaten by Ibn batuta and Marco Polo.
If you go to Damascus, one of the towers of the Omayad mosk is dedicated to jesus.
And it's just a few meters away of St John the Baptist's shrine.
 
@RegDwight no ... that I tend to get sucked into religious discussions too easily, and I really must get some work done, I have a server that's randomly dying
 
@drachenstern sprinkle some holy water on it.
 
I would love to
 
6:14 PM
Well, if you wanna be all nerdy-geeky, knock yourself out. More fun left for us.
 
Going back to the need of believers to worship, there in my personal view two ways of seeing it depending on where you stand.

- If you are a believer you probably consider atheists as people who have committed the ultimate Oedipus murder of the father.

- If instead you are an atheist, you consider believers as having difficulties grappling with the status of religious orphan (I consider myself as a religious orphan).

All in all, God is strongly equated to a fatherly figure.
It's not for nothing that the Christian main prayer starts with "Pater Noster"
 
who is the owner of the site? if I'm allowed to know .. I've registered at many language learning sites, but they were more dating site than language learning
@AlainPannetier Are you religious?
 
1 hour ago, by Alain Pannetier
Well let's phrase it that way. I am an atheist who loves religions.
 
According to Pascal Boyer, a deity (God in your case) is someone who is in possession of strategic social information.
 
6:24 PM
@Vitaly I knew it! @RegDwight is God!
 
@Vitaly The closest I can come to that assertion is: "if humans have invented it, then it must serve some purpose".
 
@Rhodri The first rule of God is,..
 
@Rhodri Does he happen to know what every tribesman has secretly done (stole something, or killed someone, or had sexual intercourse with someone, etc)?
 
Isn't it nice and cosy to imagine someone is observing you and will reward you or forgive you ?
Atheists reject this comfort and it's much harder to live than to worship.
 
@Vitaly Haha. You would be surprised, my dear.
 
6:26 PM
@AlainPannetier Not for me.
 
I might not know everything (yet), but I sure as hell remember everything.
 
@Vitaly: you didn't say he had to be in possession of all strategic social information. Besides, he reads the data dumps. ::nods wisely::
 
@AlainPannetier Have you read Religion Explained by Pascal Boyer?
 
@AlainPannetier How it can be nice? just get on my nerves
 
@Vitaly I say it's harder because believers always end up thinking they've been forgiven. When you are the very person to forgive yourself this is no done deal.
@Vitaly Sorry but it's the first time I hear that name. Actually I'm not too interested in the false/true aspect of religions. My approach is more historical - ethnological even.
 
6:30 PM
@AlainPannetier I don't think the majority of believes end up thinking like that… Quite the opposite in fact: they can never know for sure that their belief is strong enough. I might be wrong here, though.
 
You know Protestants, I know Catholics ?
 
@AlainPannetier Why do you assume the book is about the false/true aspect? For the record, Pascal Boyer is an anthropologist.
 
If I understand it correctly at least in Calvinism, the grace is the problem. For Catholics instead, the ultimate meeting point is Paradise.
@Vitaly My mistake. I'll have a look then.
But my reading list is already large... ;-)
 
No problem, but I am still interested in the answer.
 
Do you mean about God being in possession of social information ?
 
6:37 PM
No, why do you assume etc etc.
 
Oh I see.
Simply because your statement "deity (God in your case) is someone who is in possession of strategic social information." appeared to presuppose it's existence. So that I wrongly assumed a believer mindset. Now that you tease me with the precision that he approaches the topic from an anthropologistic viewpoint, I understand this is not the case. But it is now closer to my proposition of a deity being useful.
As in "fulfilling a social role".
 
Oh. Thanks, now I understand.
Yes, that's precisely what Pascal Boyer is getting at; that, and the evolved mind architecture we all share that makes us perceive agency where there is none.
He is also talking about monotheism/polytheism from an evolutionary perspective later in the book, though I could not remember his ideas now.
 
If you approach the existence of societies though the angle of groups cooperation as a competitive survival advantage (apparently for the individuals and ultimately for the group) then religions is a strong centripetal force, a guarantee of cohesion and health.
Ants don't need religion but they have no real individual autonomy
The truth is that their cooperative model is so old that Nietsche has won.
@RegDwight, i've just noticed the chat room has changed name. Tell us when you're bored.
In English.
He is already asleep.
 
Don't worry, I will.
In the mean time, go on.
 
This reminds me. The cooperative model, according to Pascal Boyer, also results in religious fundamentalism. He views it as a reaction to deflection from coalition; hence historically resulting in more fundamentalists in areas and times associated with pluralism (particularly, where Muslim and Christian societies share borders, in the modern USA where secularism is able to send a message, etc).
In other words, the lower the cost of deflection from a religion, the more fundamentalist that religion comes off.
 
6:52 PM
Actually, most trouble arises wherever and whenever there's a high proportion of young males in the population. Everything else is completely secondary, from religion to state form to natural resources.
 
Oh I'm completely in line with that.
Group cooperating models are:
- competition inside for individual dominance (translate selection of the most apt leader).
- cohesion against external threat.
Religion being a strong cohesion factor *must*, to fulfil its role, generate "rejection of the alien" reflexes.
 
@RegDwight I didn't find anything about skin care, nail care, hair care , etc. .. "body care" is an interesting topic or it's as bored as talking to me, for example
 
Did we change topic from God to body care now? :D
 
I think Boob's asking whether there's an SE for body care.
The closest we have thus far is Fitness
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Fitness & Nutritionfitness.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for physical fitness professionals, athletes, trainers, and those providing health-related needs. Topics include exercise and training, nutrition and diets, wellness, and activities related to strength, endurance, agility, and cardiovascular fitness.

Currently in public beta.

 
@RegDwight exactly
i explored there, but it's not what i mean
and also, "study abroad"
 
6:58 PM
Well, there are proposals for Body Building, Health, Style and Fashion, Sleeping, you name it.
 
@Vitaly, I'll check that book out. Thx for the chat.
 
500 proposals in the works right now.
 
@AlainPannetier Glad to see I got you interested. Thank you for the chat too.
 
@RegDwight Some of them are really low-priority tasks
 
You decide what is low priority and what is not.
If you don't support a proposal, you lower its priority.
If you can get 200-odd people to commit to Nail Care within a day, it will get created tomorrow.
 
7:02 PM
@RegDwight Yes that's right, I'm the boss
@RegDwight This sounds impossible to me, but it's more important than Italian foods or bla bla
 
Nothing is more important than bla bla.
 
@RegDwight That's me
 
@Alenanno, you missed that one "except Italian food of course".
 
@AlainPannetier I've been in and out, that's why ahah
 
@AlainPannetier: the book is available as a French translation (though Boyer himself was French): Et l'homme créa les dieux: Comment expliquer la religion
 
7:08 PM
@Vitaly, ah. Books in French have a higher priority on my list ;-)
 
@AlainPannetier Tell me, are you French or German or both?? I can't tell lol :D
 
@AlainPannetier And now something that might either shift it higher or lower in position on the list: he rejects most folk explanations of religion as unable to account for religious phenomenons in general, including the comfort one (with reasons, but I shall not spoil them). ;)
 
Higher then ;-)
 
:D
 
contradiction is always worth checking.
 
7:15 PM
@Alenanno Do you want me to answer you instead?
 
@Boob you mean to my last question?
 
@Alenanno your unanswered questions, especially your last question !
 
@Alenanno. Oops sorry. Missed your question. I actually wore a Lederhose from 5 to 7 and ate Leberwurst "gern" but that's the furthest I got.
 
@Boob why not
:D
 
@Alenanno Look, it worked ;)
 
7:18 PM
It was your strategy? :P @AlainPannetier from 5 to 7 (age)?
 
@Alenanno One of them, yes =D
@F'x Hej and Do you feel alone?
 
And lo and behold, yet another French descended from the Heavens.
 
@Alenanno, well yes. Sorry but the broadband here is quite something.
 
@AlainPannetier no worries!
 
Well this forum is quite "character-rich".
 
7:22 PM
The problem with French broadband is that in French they put band first, broad last.
 
I'm in Tunisia. :P
On a French operated network though.
 
Oh sorry, that's so much better. Kicking off revolutions totally brings up your internet speed.
 
When it works it's not bad. The devil is the detail.
See, we've changed topic now.
 
You even kicked @psmears out of Africa. Now that's an achievement.
 
Is he back in the UK ? Cairo is not a sinecure either.
 
7:25 PM
yesterday, by RegDwight
Le train espagnol qui conduit entre Guadalquivir et la vielle Seville...
 
Oh I see. He is the tremor maker.
 
yesterday, by psmears
@RegDwight Barcelona actually. But I'm going to Valencia on Friday, and I will pay your respects to the train at that point.
But note how we're still discussing devil.
Even when we're talking about psmears in French.
And far away in some recess, the Lord and the Devil are now playing chess.
The Devil still cheats and wins more souls; as for the Lord — he's just doing his best.
 
Right. He always win because he cheats. IIRC
jinx !
BTW
check out this article. The day before the Spanish earthquake.
 
@RegDwight What's the goal of that chess
 
Go to skeptics.SE if you want to double your rep there (and also change your tags).
@Boob, it's a nice song by Chris de Burgh.
 
7:30 PM
@AlainPannetier You mean I should go there to ask, "Is a huge earthquake really hitting Rome right now as we speak?"
 
I prefer the spaceman on that album or the crusaders but actually it's a must have. for I crony like me I mean
 
Jerusalem is lost.
 
@AlainPannetier The Lord and the Devil are now playing chess?
 
No I mean that the prediction was only a few hundred km xrong but the timing was right.
 
Spanish Train and Other Stories is the second album by Chris de Burgh, released by A&M Records in 1975. Track listing # "Spanish Train" – 5:00 # "Lonely Sky" – 3:52 # "This Song For You" – 4:14 # "Patricia the Stripper" – 3:30 # "A Spaceman Came Travelling" – 5:10 # "I'm Going Home" – 3:34 # "The Painter" – 4:20 # "Old Friend" – 3:40 # "The Tower" – 5:22 # "Just Another Poor Boy" – 4:46 All songs written by Chris de Burgh. Personnel * Chris de Burgh – Acoustic Guitars, Lead and all Backing Vocals, Piano on The Tower and This Song For You * Barry de Souza – Drums * Ray Glynn – Electric ...
 
7:31 PM
could it be a slightly correct prediction ?
@RegDwight Yes that's the one. We're back to religion !!!
 
@RegDwight takk
 
@RegDwight ah and Patricia is also a good one.
 
@AlainPannetier Actually I liked Far beyond these castle walls a lot.
 
Feel like MP3ing it when I'm back in Paris.
 
I am pleased with myself. A single picture I posted results in a whole day of religious talk.
 
7:34 PM
Satin Green Shutters, Watching the World, Hold On, Turning Round...
Far Beyond These Castle Walls is the first album by Chris de Burgh, released by A&M Records in 1975. Track listing All compositions by Chris de Burgh #"Hold On" – 4:03 #"The Key" – 4:08 #"Windy Night" – 4:53 #"Sin City" – 4:35 #"New Moon" – 4:59 #"Watching the World" – 3:32 #"Lonesome Cowboy" – 4:23 #"Satin Green Shutters" – 5:02 #"Turning Round", released outside the UK and Ireland as "Flying" – 6:24 #"Goodnight" – 2:07 Production *Produced & Engineered By Robin Geoffrey Cable *Assistant Engineer: Mike Stavrou Personnel *Chris De Burgh: Lead & Backing Vocals, Acoustic & Electric Guita...
 
@Vitaly Just like the butterfly is proud of a storm :P
 
Haha.
 
@Vitaly We only did that because when you post a picture and it doesn't result in a day's worth of talk, you start whining about us hating you.
May 5 at 14:09, by Vitaly
I don't get it. Do you find the version of the owl offensive, @RegDwight? If so, I am sorry.
So from now on, we'll be commenting on all pictures of yours excessively.
 
@Vitaly, come on tell us what's tomorrows pix.
 
Now, now. You forget the context. You should be treating the transcript like the Bible, @RegDwight
 
7:36 PM
Actually @Robusto as nice one he pulls out every now and then. The one that makes me close FF at work if you see what I mean.
 
@Vitaly You mean I should be treating the transcript like you treat the Bible.
 
Or maybe you actually are treating it like that: memorizing and wild interpretation.
 
@Vitaly The context was provided by you. So you're biased and your complaints about ignoring the context won't be heard.
 
Or are just jealous because it wasn't a picture you posted. Aka booya!
 
Wagwan.
@Vitaly I have long since forgotten that it started with a picture.
In fact, I still have no idea which picture you're talking about.
 
7:40 PM
@RegDwight That pic about third Idiot?
 
The Preacher.
 
Oh that one.
What does it have to do with anything?
In fact, my response to that picture was the exact opposite of the stance I took in the later discussion.
 
Now there is a whole page's worth about me and the picture.
Please continue.
 
@RegDwight You've learned "in fact" today?
 
@Boob Boob, you're not helping.
 
7:43 PM
@RegDwight I'm teasing right now
 
@Vitaly Sure. You might have created the picture, but it wasn't you who created this chat, or the company that created the chat, or the people who created the company who created this chat.
It's turtles all the way down.
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or the company who created the people who created the company who created this chat?
 
3 hours ago, by RegDwight
The Bible is a collection of random stories told and re-told by millions of people over the course of millenia, then written down and re-written, and re-written again by anyone who felt like re-writing it.
 
10 points is enough for me, thanks
 
1 min ago, by RegDwight
It's turtles all the way down.
Good.
 
7:46 PM
"Turtles all the way down" is a jocular expression of the infinite regress problem in cosmology posed by the Unmoved mover paradox. The phrase was popularized by Stephen Hawking in 1988. The "turtle" metaphor in the anecdote represents a popular notion of a "primitive cosmological myth", viz. the flat earth supported on the back of a World Turtle. A comparable metaphor describing the circular cause and consequence for the same problem is the "chicken and egg problem". Another metaphor addressing the problem of infinite regression, albeit not in a cosmological context, is Quis custodiet ip...
 
I am starting to get a glimpse of RegDwight's notion of the world.
 
just spriting things up.
 
Apr 16 at 20:21, by RegDwight
I have no idea why everybody here is so keen on understanding me.
 
It's not merely a notion
 
8:03 PM
@AlainPannetier — I make you close Firefox? Huh?
 
minimize.
and then maximize
Not specifically you. Unless the "dream" is the the picture itself. In which case your gravatar is well chosen ;-)
very wobbly internet here tonight.
@Robusto Did you understand which picture I'm referring to ?
 
K piplz, now that the discussion has cooled down and my wife is out to a party, I'll go listen to the recent podcast.
CU.
 
Have fun
@AlainPannetier sorry for silly question, but how can i bold something in comments?
 
8:25 PM
in chat ? just as in normal written English: two stars each side => bold. one star => italic
** bold ** * italic *
 
@AlainPannetier Thanks and same in comments?
 
If you want more info, consider the FAQ ====> link is bottom right corner of this page
and if you need a "private" practice area there's a sandbox (link in the FAQ).
 
We expect community members to treat each other with respect … even when they don't deserve it. !
 
Absolutely. That's something you should always be ready to quote if "challenged". But I dare say this forum is quite welcoming. There have been various examples of provocation of course but the regular users of the chat nearly always politely deal with it.
I would not say the same of some other more "geeky" chat rooms, where you can easily attract acronyms such as wtf or lol.
 
@AlainPannetier Norwegian politeness is famous, but the second part of sentence is ridiculous
 
8:35 PM
wtf being the English equivalent of German "Was der Fuchs"
 
@AlainPannetier — No.
 
The sandbox room is useful. IDK how I missed it when I read the FAQ.
 
@Robusto, sorry. The Japanese nurse then.
 
@AlainPannetier oder "was die Scheiße"
 
OK, well don't tease me, bro. When you @mention someone I presume there's a reason.
 
8:41 PM
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Q: Using "do" to create a question

RichardI vaguely remember hearing that using "do" to create a question is almost unique to English. Other languages would simply reverse the verb and subject. However, as I asked a similar question (mistakenly) 30 min ago...I'm not certain whether this is right or not. Could speakers of other languages...

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Q: English questions and negation with *do* in syntax

Felix DombekA former lecturer of mine once explained why, from a syntactic point of view, the English rule that negation and questions are formed with the auxiliary do follows from other syntactic facts about English. More precisely, if you gave a good syntactician not familiar with English a corpus of Engl...

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Q: What is the origin of the 'do' construction?

Peter AperloModern English seems to require this verb in several circumstances, where most other European languages don't seem to need it. (See? I just used it.) For example, in questions: "Do you have a dog?" Whereas, "Have you a dog?" would be normal in other languages or in the English of days gone by....

 
@Boob I don't think it is ridiculous. The part "even when they don't deserve it" takes the standpoint of the reader. And it is the perception of the reader that the other member does not deserve respect. The point is: if this is a reciprocal feeling the aggressions flare up.
@Robusto, sorry. The Japanese nurse then.
 
You're repeating yourself.
7 mins ago, by Alain Pannetier
@Robusto, sorry. The Japanese nurse then.
 
Thought you'd missed it.
 
This is the first time ever that I hear "was der Fuchs" or "was die Scheiße".
A German could say, "was zur Hölle", or "was zum Teufel", or simply "was zum".
And Boob is probably thinking of "was für eine Scheiße", which is a different thing entirely.
 
@RegDwight that's my own way of dispelling the aggression. Pretending this no aggression in the first place. Obviously Was der Fuchs is only phonologically close to wtf.
 
8:47 PM
"Was zum Henker" is quite popular, too. "What the executioner".
Anyhow, back to listening to the podcast.
You cast some close votes in the mean time or something.
 
@RegDwight done
 

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