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Whats with this dudes questions? security.stackexchange.com/questions/36535/…
00:50
@D3C4FF no idea really but if you care to check his other questions, you'll notice it's not just questions that are a bit off
@Gilles yup just read that +1 for keeping it together LOL
01:21
@Gilles Good stuff
Worth a read for all concerned :)
@D3C4FF I'm at stage 2, like most non-bears around here I guess
the Matasano challenges are on my todo list, I should get around to them by 2200 or so
 
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02:50
For the record, I call it good because it reflects well on my abilities and my customers are getting what they pay for. I thrive on cocky IT admins that pledge their network is secure. Its how I landed this customer contract and why I have to hire an employee starting in July to keep up with over 50 scheduled pen tests already this month. I use a custom live cd I built and all of the tools are open source, except for a few custom python scripts/c programs I wrote. One of my friends sent me a code snipit to finish a script I can use to accomplish this. I'll post the script when its done. — John J 6 hours ago
Bragging much?
@TerryChia The important thing is that he's now spending time on his boat with his sons than entertaining a pointless debate.
If someone is doing 50 pen-tests a month and a month has ~30 days... he's spending a bit more than half a day per customer? Budget pen-tests much? :P
@D3C4FF heh. maybe that's why he needs to hire an employee. 25 pen test a month is much better right? RIGHT?
@TerryChia Rigt on!!
@D3C4FF Thanks for that link btw. That Matasano challenge thing looks interesting, I think I'll start to tackle them once I cleared out this set of projects.
03:07
@TerryChia those were my thoughts also but tried to avoid commenting on it ... I would like to know how he pronounces "Let me penetration-test your Wi-Fi" without bleeding much through his nose :))
@TildalWave I sense a new pickup line for @Adnan here.
@TerryChia hehe
@TerryChia It's a bit funny that he's asking how to do that what's basically extremely simple and then brag about how good he is tho... I have a feeling this is one of those van techies that drive around and run aircrack-ng and then subtly extortion pet shop owners to secure their network
@TildalWave yeah true.. it's just a simple script with maybe a bit of regex...
@TerryChia well I'd go with a double for loop ... let's live dangerously what the hell LOL
@TildalWave So.... YOLO?
03:23
> it would involve just over 1,200 tries.
yeah... 1296 exactly... I guess he never rounds up the cheap bugger
@D3C4FF You up? How's your legs?
03:38
Have you guys gave Google Hangouts a shot? I'm pretty much considering replacing Skype with it...
04:35
@TildalWave I'm up
My legs are bruised and bleeding. Why do you ask? :P
05:19
Does anyone know of some extremely high speed RAM disks that can support more >=256GB?
And aren't SATA 2 interfaced?
@D3C4FF added a comment to the self destruct question you might like
@LucasKauffman Ahahahaha xD
@LucasKauffman heh
that guy has really weird requirements.
@TerryChia yea
Did he delete a bunch of questions? I seem to remember him having a lot more weird ones than the 3 on his profile.
05:28
@TerryChia yea he's got only downvoted ones
05:39
@TerryChia so how is your flask going :P
@LucasKauffman Taking a break from it while i work on some school stuff. :P
It's really nothing that new tbh, since I have already used some other python web frameworks in the past(webapp2 etc).
btw I started playing tropico 4
addictive game
06:11
Its fine, its my first time asking a question here. I thought the community was all security experts but I forget people from all levels, expert to novice, come to learn/share. It was my fault for making the assumption everyone had previous working experience in pen testing and knew security basics. We all have to start somewhere. — John J 9 hours ago
Am I the only one who just want to bash this guy's head to the nearest wall?
@Adnan nope
I mean COME ON! How can you be so 1337 and not be able to write a simple brute-force script?
We already questioned his level of expertise when he can't throw together a simple script.
3 hours ago, by TildalWave
@TerryChia It's a bit funny that he's asking how to do that what's basically extremely simple and then brag about how good he is tho... I have a feeling this is one of those van techies that drive around and run aircrack-ng and then subtly extortion pet shop owners to secure their network
@TerryChia Exactly!
@Adnan Also, this
3 hours ago, by D3C4FF
If someone is doing 50 pen-tests a month and a month has ~30 days... he's spending a bit more than half a day per customer? Budget pen-tests much? :P
06:15
@TerryChia I still wouldn't dump Skype just yet. P2P is a great feature to me.
@Adnan Well, Hangouts is pretty much a beta product at this point but it does seem really nice.
Plus no more annoying skype windows app..
@TerryChia Well, I'm not well experienced in it. I've used it several times with these YouTubers hangouts. It's nice that you can join so many people so easily. But still, for 1-on-1 I'd still use Skype. I just like that what I type/say/do is encrypted on my computer and sent directly to the other person's computer and decrypted there. (in some cases it's routed through a Skype node, but it still can't decrypt it)
@Adnan Actually, I read some news that really makes me doubt Skype's end-to-end encryption. arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/…
@TerryChia 50 pentests in a month lol, I wonder why he can't ask his 10 man team how to do it
@LucasKauffman Oh I bet he asks his 10-man team for other tasks.
06:31
@Adnan the guy is full of shit
@TerryChia Okay, now you made me sad! I hope it's not the same for video/audio
@Adnan Well, it's nothing conclusive as of yet, but it hints at it not being truly end-to-end encrypted.
But ehh, I'm not really that paranoid.
Actually now that I think about it, didn't microsoft remove skype's p2p features?
@TerryChia Well, some people's lives depends on Skype's secrecy.
@TerryChia No, and this is something I'm sure about.
@Adnan I seem to recall some news a few years back about Microsoft removing Skype's decentralized nodes and replacing it with their own servers.
Less than a week ago, a buddy and I netstated our connections and confirmed that we are indeed connected directly to each others in a video call.
@TerryChia Oh yes, that one is true.
But that's very different from removing the P2P functionality.
06:36
@Adnan Ah, I guess they use the centralized servers for the whole management and establishing the whole routing thing while using p2p for the actual communication?
@TerryChia They use them for login purposes, and for NATed users. Of course, that's as far as I know.
@Adnan Hmm, the whole Skype protocol is a mystery anyway. Proprietary protocols suck.
@TerryChia Yeah. I'm pretty sure they have some big flaws and they're afraid of peer reviews.
07:14
@Adnan Nope. But similar feelings towards this dude: security.stackexchange.com/questions/36535/…
 
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09:26
damn, what's with the deluge of shitty questions recently? all I see is [closed], [closed], downvoted, [closed], downvoted, downvoted
10:03
@Polynomial I think this is a job for...
GREATER CHIMDALE COUNTY MAN
Hmmmmmmm - paranoia day, today:
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Q: Out-of-the-box Network Intrusion Appliance for non-Power User

AnthonyFirst, let me apologize if any of this question is naive or beneath the scope of this board. Bear in mind the context and that I'm asking as an attempt to exhaust all resources. Also, I understand if not all of my parameters can be met, but having more facts and knowledge is just as helpful as a...

10:21
@RoryAlsop jeebus
he makes Andrew look like a well-rounded individual
well, actually, no. at least this dude can spell.
:-)
If I was him I'd probably finish my contract with that client:-)
/me nods
10:53
Oh well, left an answer anyway
11:07
@RoryAlsop I like your note about using half of the lines on an ethernet cable. I must have crimped a thousand patch cables in my life and never thought of this.
@Tidal You like it, don't you?
11:58
Quick question, I think I'm right in saying that for RSA the message you're encrypting has to be the same size as the public key/modulus and produces a signature of the same length? Does ECC have this property as well? So if I have a 64 byte ECC key do I have to have a 64 byte message?
@Lucas I think now we need one of your famous bear signs.
talking bears, anyone seem good old thomas recently?
@LucasKauffman Nope. Not in the DMZ at least. He doesn't like us anymore :(
@LucasKauffman Maybe he needs some offering. Let's sacrifice a virgin.
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12:10
@TerryChia It was nice knowing you.
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On a totally different matter, @Terry come here.. we want to talk to you a bit
@LucasKauffman hehehehe
1 second different
time for me to go get summer tyres
@LucasKauffman Jesus! Why so late?
@LucasKauffman we might have discussed this before, but is it law where you are to switch tyres?
@lynks Well, at least here it's a law. There's a deadline for installing winter tyres and another one for taking them off.
12:20
@Adnan the UK needs that, the whole country still grinds to a halt when we have snow.
13:09
@Adnan only if you need to go to the DMV
if you have to get your car certified and you have winter tires between the 30th of april and the 1st of oktober you won't pass
@lynks - the half ethernet cable just completely removes the possibility of detection as data only flows one way
@RoryAlsop yeah I was just looking into it. I never realised we only use half the lines on a patch cable
@RoryAlsop I always assumed the others were control lines of some kind.
@RoryAlsop I accidently voted this as offtopic rather than duplicate: security.stackexchange.com/questions/36553/…
13:25
@LucasKauffman Well, to be honest, if @Poly didn't mention the dupe any immediately just answered it, I don't think we can blame the OP for not searching before asking.
In the past few months I've been active here, I saw that we have a small problem when it comes to that. We are encouraging this behavior. Starting with myself, of course. I have some answers on questions that were later marked as dupes.
I only answered it because of the existing bad answer on there.
Otherwise I'd have just VtC'd silently.
@Polynomial I guess that's what the voting system is for.
Only works if people have the balls to downvote bad answers. Looks like someone upvoted it.
@Polynomial I'm in no way trying to tell you what to do, but if I were you I'd just downvote it and comment. Later others will see your comment and upvote it.
@Poly My 6666 has been borken :(
I've deleted the answer and turned it into a comment.
bleh. not my usual self today.
been feeling miserable all mornin
13:31
What?! It got upvoted!!!!
AGAIN!!!
@Polynomial time of the month?
heya guys - @Adnan @TildalWave @RoryAlsop @ScottPack @Gilles - thanks for the Android help yesterday. In the end I had to reset it...
@LucasKauffman lolol
@Polynomial What's wrong?
@AviD Awww.. well, at least it's working now.
13:33
@Adnan It's Tildal not Tidal damnit! I don't have Lunar phase related problems :P
@Adnan yeah, thanks!
@TildalWave Tomeito Tomato.
@Adnan Not sure. Just not been my usual cheerful self. Probably lack of sleep or something.
@AviD hey that's a way to recycle a gift
probably also related to incredibly frustrating D3DKMT APIs I was playing with over the weekend.
13:35
@Polynomial heavy days?
@Polynomial You need a pint.
@Polynomial sleep, yeah sure, lets go with that. You really need a good sleep.
@LucasKauffman Not really. I get insomnia sometimes. It's been kicking in recently.
@Adnan I'm off to DC4420 tonight, so I'll have a few there.
@AviD Well, that other thing too, but sleep is the primary.
@Polynomial My normal remedy is boobies, but that would keep you distracted even more, have you tried going for a run/excercise?
@Adnan tell that to Skeet because I didn't get the notification because of your bleeping tomato :P
13:36
wait, you could combine boobies and excercise
@LucasKauffman Where do you store them?
@LucasKauffman My insomnia has been chronic before. 7+ days without sleep. I've tried pretty much everything.
@LucasKauffman Boxcercise
@Adnan Sexcercise, ofc.
@Polynomial feck :/
13:37
@Polynomial God damn it! So obvious, yet I missed it.
@Polynomial you barely even stretched then!
@Polynomial I also get bouts of insomnia, like you in clusters. but 7 days is crazy.
@LucasKauffman I've been sleeping recently, but not good sleep. Broken and restless mainly, and I've been falling asleep late and waking up early.
@lynks After 4 days you lose track of how long you've been awake for.
@Polynomial the longest I've been awake is about 50 hours.
things blur together, you start hallucinating, experience spacial distortions
13:39
@Lucas Hmm.. I see you deleted the cellar thing. You must be hiding something in the cellar then!
you can stand in one spot and stare into space for an hour and it feels like 30 seconds, or stand in one spot for 30 seconds and think it's been an hour
@Adnan what cellar?
@Polynomial Yeah, this happens to me every Friday night
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@Polynomial that sucks :/ can you work like that?
@LucasKauffman Not really. I can do the first couple of days but after that the lights are on and nobody's home.
13:41
You know, I really don't like this question.
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Q: What simple security considerations can I / should I make for a read-only API?

Anders HRight now I'm setting up an API, to be consumed on the client-side to set up a directory site. I'm wondering what extra steps I need to take just to prevent people from gaining write access to the data. Some notes: The API / database has no private information. All information is available and...

The answer is basically OWASP Top 10 + read-only user for the public database queries.
@Adnan It's borderline NC, but useful enough that we should make an exception.
plus not everyone knows OWASP
@Polynomial I'm half way through a full answer. I don't know if I want to continue
@Adnan It's too broad yes, and he wants us to do his homework and disguised that with a bit longer question
I found myself going on and on pretty much about everything I know about web application security.
@LucasKauffman right now I'm guessing I'm experiencing the precursor to a bout of it. I've not had a really bad run for a while, so hopefully I'll just get a couple of two-day bouts and be done with it.
13:43
@TildalWave EXACTLY!!! Thank you! I hate those questions.
@Tildal Anyway, I VTCed it.
@Adnan I tried writing an answer to it and just didn't know where to start... VTCed here also
@TildalWave So far I've covered OWASP Top 10 #1-6
it's way too broad ... maybe throw him a comment it's OWASP top 10? I like that
or just a short answer
doesn't have to be a tome
@TildalWave I'll do it.
@Polynomial Hmm.. I guess this is a better idea, I'll just summarize my current answer.
How about that?
13:45
@Polynomial what would that be? Don't bother?
yey my first good question badge... @Polynomial wanna throw in your answer too? security.stackexchange.com/q/36135/20074 This usually varies greatly contry to country, and I don't think we have a UK perspective on it yet... Rook is from US, right?
@TildalWave swiss I think
@TildalWave it's almost all covered.
I would only say that using a knife / key to jimmy the panels might be a little aggressive :P
I usually stick my thumbnail under the pin pad and try to pull it up
@Polynomial dunno... I think there's a bit more to it... feels that way but can't really tell what
and properly cover my pin
ah no he's american
13:51
@Polynomial I've mentioned skimmers that can also write to the next card inserted what it read from the previous one... you have any info on those maybe?
yeah, I've seen those
@Polynomial Awww.. now my answer is gonna look like a copy of yours
@Adnan too slow ;)
but add your answer regardless
I'll happily upvote
@Polynomial drop an answer then please ;)
shall do
13:54
@Adnan why didn't you add something to that ATM skimmers question? I thought you just love ATMs!?! :P :))
@TildalWave I don't have a mitigation, and it's not really about ATMs - it's about Chip&Pin machines.
the one I know of was the stuff that was demonstrated on the back of the PinPadPwn stuff
@Polynomial NO MITIGATION? NO PROBLEM!
:p
ffs my start bar is gone :(
@Polynomial I've left the question somewhat open and an answer of what else to look for would be acceptable as far as I'm concerned. ;)
@LucasKauffman explorer crashed?
14:00
@TildalWave probably I tried restarting it but it's not working
will need to reboot :(
fortunately I'll get migrated to w7 somewhere between now and august
heh, I'm so security conscious. just made a file called "password.txt" on my desktop containing the password for the local MSSQL admin account.
@LucasKauffman On what system?
it's just a test VM ;)
if someone roots it, they can have it ^^
@Polynomial I know the feeling. It feels naughty to yell on someone in The DMZ for hours about doing something the "right" way and then just going and doing the opposite.
I think everyone got "sacrifice a virgin" wrong. It's nothing to do with killing them. You sacrifice their virginity!
14:02
@Polynomial AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!NOOOOOOOO
@Adnan windows XP currently
@Adnan I do things properly when it matters. When it's a VM I'm going to trash tomorrow I couldn't give a flying fuck about keeping it secure.
@Adnan ehm @Adnan you can do the deed, I'm not really interested anymore...
@Polynomial Oh yeah, I'm talking about that sort of things
@Polynomial personally I try to practice what I preach. Eg, I live with a bunch of other people, and I have a firewall between my computer and the rest of the house/router :P
14:03
@Polynomial I do the same with my development machine, I don't care of my mysql root password is 1234 or toor
It gets reset anyway before every project
and it's only local access
adds toor to his short password wordlist
@ScottPack have you already prepared a victory speech?
@lynks also add TestyTester
I have a dedicated list for MSSQL because it has unusual complexity constraints
so you'll never find test1234 but you might find Test1234
damn it! I've just realized that I could've used TastyTester and passed that chance
14:10
@LucasKauffman Nah, that would be presumptuous. While I think several of our candidates would be less than ideal, we definitely have some crotchety grumpuouses on the list, there's a bunch of names that people recognize and seem to respect.
@Everybody Today I've received my new laptop and I have to free my current one so they'd give it to one of the new interns. Any tips? (I've already backed up and used DBAN on the whole disk)
14:21
@Adnan so that should take up a good 3 minutes.
@ScottPack respect? is that really a requirement for moderators....? Dammit.
@AviD :(
@Adnan heehee
14:35
@Adnan I... can't... upvote... you... 6666 suits you so well :))
@TildalWave Well, somebody has to do it.
@AviD Requirement? No. But we've had 293 views on the Candidate Questionnaire question and 621 people vote. Most of them are probably just voting based on names and/or gravatars that they recognise and haven't pissed them off.
@Adnan Isn't that what she said....?
@Adnan done... shame really :(
14:54
@Adnan my approach works swifter, you take out the hard drive, poor petrol on it and you watch it burn.
or you take it to local schoot range and see if your pellets can penetrate the skin
@LucasKauffman Unfortunately, I cannot do that to the company's property.
@Adnan ah well tough luck :(
security.stackexchange.com/questions/36568/… this guy just made my mouth fall open
@LucasKauffman Speaking of which, apparently, GAMO has some special pellets called GAMO Rocket.
They're normal lead pellets, but with some steel head.
@Adnan do they explode?
aaaaw :(
@LucasKauffman But wait.. that's awesome. I'll tell you why
Led is very easy to deform, so it will be deformed once it hits the target, which means it won't penetrate much. But with this steel head, it will penetrate very deep.
15:00
@Adnan would be nice for harder material like wood en PVC
@Lucas On Saturday, I shot them on some aluminum plate, they went right through.
@LucasKauffman What's your rifle's speed?
@Adnan 1200 fps
well advertised
havent measured it yet with a speedometer
@LucasKauffman Sweet Jesus!!!
15:02
It has a kickback when I fire it
@LucasKauffman Yeah, all spriners have that.
@Adnan it's not really a springer
@LucasKauffman N2O piston?
it works with a cilinder and inert gas
yep
@LucasKauffman Oh.. those ones are a bit more quite than the springers
15:04
defintely
they dont have that KLAANG sound
@Adnan have you seen any cams that are meant to be mounted on scope?
But with 1200 fps and the right pellet, you could go through zinc plates used in some roofs.
@Adnan currently I've got two pellets, one with a flat head and one with a diabolic head (hunting)
@LucasKauffman Mine is slower than 1200 fps, it penetrated a zinc roof (by mistake) from 50 meters away. So I could only imagine what yours could do.
@Adnan unfortunately I can't use it for hunting :(
@LucasKauffman I have something called Seben DKA2
I use it to mount my normal point-and-shoot cam on the scope
pretty neat actually.
But I really prefer a good cheek weld with an eye directly on the scope.
15:08
@Adnan how much does that cost?
@LucasKauffman I bought mine for 36 euros
damn cheap
@LucasKauffman The manufacturer is in Germany. So it won't take long to ship
@LucasKauffman Wait.. what?! A couple of weeks ago you said you can
@Adnan no no no, hunting is illegal
except
for animals
which arent categorized as animals
@LucasKauffman Oh.. that sucks.
15:14
totally
ServerFault Mod Elections close in 4 hours. Go vote if you wanna.
Vote for scott pack
@ScottPack If you give me some rep I'd vote for you.
@Lucas What scope do you have?
@Adnan You don't even have an account on SF.
@ScottPack Oh yeah, that as well.
15:15
@Adnan So you would need to go associate, and then get 49 rep.
@ScottPack That's like 2-3 answers!
@Adnan Or 1 answer with 5 conspirators.
@Adnan or successful rep-whoring here ;)
Not that I would ever promote such an activity, but that's the theoretical minimum.
My lockpicks just came. A little bit dirty but looks quite solid for it's price. Excited to start learning once I find the time. :)
15:17
Or, I suppose, 1 answer with a bounty. That seems less likely than conspirators.
@TerryChia Congrats!
@Adnan let me find it
@TerryChia Woohooo!!! Awesome!
It'd take you less than 1 day to pick your first lock!
@TerryChia I need to build myself a lock board. I have some old deadbolts, but trying to do them not mounted is too hard.
@ScottPack How much do you need to vote?
@Adnan 150
15:19
@ScottPack For some reason... serverfault.com/users/175603/adnan
I wonder when the next Sec.SE election is. I could do with another t-shirt.
@ScottPack Wow... If I didn't know any better, I'd say it's a miracle
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A: WAMP: Why two php.ini files?

Adnan Create a .php file. Add the following to it: phpinfo(); Locate Loaded Configuration File That's the file you need to keep maintaining.

@ScottPack Apparently I have an old answer from SOthat was migrated to SF. It had exactly 5 votes.
Oh God, beware of the impending flood of how to protect my LAN from hackers type questions:
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Q: How can I better protect my LAN from Internet Hackers

Ninja2kMy computer is connected to my Netgear router which is also the switch for my network, this in turn is connected to my cable modem which is just a bridging device. My router is blocking scans and fragmentation attacks but I believe its processor and RAM is getting hammered doing so because my LA...

15:22
Now the rep are added to my account 50+101 = 151
@Adnan Oh, did you just now associate?
@ScottPack Yup
@Adnan Ah, that makes sense. Your SF account wasn't showing up in your network profile, because you hadn't associated yet.
@ScottPack I'm more amazed by the fact that I needed 150 to vote, then I associated and.. boom.. 151
Bam!
5 seems to be mile of those milestone vote counts. 5 isn't too terrible to obtain, but 6 is harder.
15:30
Hmm, what's this about sacrificing me to The Bear?
@TildalWave My reptrain senses are going off.
@ScottPack So all of that is just to feed your mile stone disorder?
Come on people.. let's rep-train this one
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Q: Why can a TOR exit node decrypt data, but not the entry node?

Petey BMe -> Node A -> Node B -> Node C -> destination The documentation on TOR always states that only the exit node C can see plain text data. How is this possible without me talking to Node C directly? If I have some plain text data, and want to send it encrypted to Node A, I'd usually do a Diffie-...

@TerryChia You might do better with this one:
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Q: Out-of-the-box Network Intrusion Appliance for non-Power User

AnthonyFirst, let me apologize if any of this question is naive or beneath the scope of this board. Bear in mind the context and that I'm asking as an attempt to exhaust all resources. Also, I understand if not all of my parameters can be met, but having more facts and knowledge is just as helpful as a...

It's on the first page of the SuperCollider
@TildalWave heh. i'm just soooo lazy to type out a coherent answer nowadays...
I guess it's the 10k rep syndrome.
@TerryChia It doesn't require it even IMO... I don't think there's any technical solution to that last question I linked... The OP's friend should either go full Amish, or OP should start agreeing with him and they deal with it psychologically
@TildalWave Meh, I didn't actually read it. The whole thing has TL;DR plastered all over it.
Am I the only one that thinks this is ugly as hell?
15:41
@TerryChia think of 20k :P ... we'll finally be able to trust you :))
@TildalWave Meh, I'll get there in another year.
@TerryChia better than this ^
@TildalWave hah. but still, the black Nexus 4 is a nice looking device. This white one is hideous IME though...
@TerryChia dunno would have to see it in person ... I have some Xperia that's also black top and white back cover and it looks OK to me
@TerryChia Racist!
You know, I might not like all aspects of this company, but I really like that we use SVN for our version control, we use Mantis for our bug reports and general ticketing, we use Lync to make communication easier. It's just really nice.
15:52
@TerryChia I have the xperia z, pretty much chose it because all the other flagship phones are ugly as sin.
@Adnan do you prefer SVN over git?
@lynks The Android phone with the nicest look currently is the HTC One imo.
@TerryChia I dislike curvy or rounded devices. the xperia is square, and i believe is the only one with glass front and back, which i also like.
@lynks We use both (I use git for one project). There's only one thing I like about git and I wish if SVN had it - you can build your own local repo. You can commit your code and track it yourself without messing the build.
@TerryChia they all look like I'd have a square shaped manhood when they're in my pocket
@lynks Otherwise, I think they're both pretty good.
15:55
@lynks Too bad the only Android devices I'll buy are the Nexus ones.
@TildalWave I think you need the phones from @RoryAlsop's generation.
@Adnan I'm still pretty new to git, but what I'm realising is the less you treat it like SVN, the more benefit you get out of it.
@TerryChia oh noes that's scary I'd look like a tripod then
@lynks I don't really understand what you mean. Could you be more specific?
@Tildal Come on! Help me reptrain that baby!
@Adnan what baby?
@TildalWave Looks like someone has some explaining to do!
15:59
@Adnan you can vote on SF now BTW ;)
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