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3:26 AM

Hi

Evening.

Hey, evening.

A question

Can you combine two separate tasks in a step-by-step article?

Why would you?

Because they are related.

Example?

3:29 AM

How to view a contact in Gmail? 1. Open Gmail, 2. Click on Contacts, 3. To view a single contact, click on the name; 4. To view all the contacts, click the "contacts" link.

3 and 4 are related.

3 and 4 could be combined, sure.

Yeah, I think I asked the wrong question.

I mean is it okay this way?

Is it okay to seperate them?

Up to you.

Say 3 and 4 were under a single step.

Not a huge deal—pick whichever option you like more.

3:32 AM

Okay. Thanks.

Which one do you think is more professional?

Professional? Eh, either one.

I don't think a Gmail contacts tutorial is professional to begin with…

Okay.

I know. This was just an example.

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5:12 AM

What's the three-letter word for a legless reptile which looks very much like a chameleons? @Mitch (hellow)

TemporaryNickName

5:25 AM

I just realised when psy says "Mother father" he is trying to say "mother fucxxx" or "mother fucxxer" but in a different way

Hi @Cerberus

Hi @Gigili

@TemporaryNickName

Niether he nor his friends were/was present in the party?

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7:25 AM

Hello everybody! Help me please, how does one call postgraduate studies in countries where the degree is not PHD? (So it can't be PHD fellowship)

Can I use "postgraduate scholarship" in this sense in official papers? As I know It is well used in UK, but in the sense of PHD

2 hours later…

9:28 AM

@TemporaryNickName It's called a "code name."

9:41 AM

In the following sentence, what type of verb is the capitalized word?

Angelica HOPED that tomorrow would be a better day.

helping
mental action
linking
visible action

my guess would be mental action but never seen the classification of verbs until now

Is HOPED a mental action verb?

@JohanLarsson Thanks :-)

10:01 AM

@skullpatrol don't thank/trust me though as I don't speak the language :)

:D

11:04 AM

We are being told not to go into work today. Bombing suspect still at large, one dead, following shootout with police.

What, the whole metroplex?

Cambridge, Watertown, Waltham, Newton, etc. Harvard, MIT, BU, and other local universities are shut down. An MIT police officer was killed earlier this morning.

Yeah, I’m listening to NPR on it right now.

They seem to have good live/ongoing coverage.

> Authorities have asked that business in Waltham, Watertown, Belmont, Alston-Brighton, Newton close. [Our] building will be closed today. Do not go to the office today.

From our facilities mgr.

11:20 AM

So that one guy in the white cap. Is he stupid or what. Why is he still in Watertown, three days later. That's not a getaway. Not that I'm complaining.

Maybe he wanted to go out like that. Make a statement.

I stick with stupid.

I stick with terrorist.

Yeah sort of my point.

If he had a statement to make he'd come forward with it.

I mean, what was his statement?

Beats the shit out of me. Maybe something like "Fuck all y'all motherfuckers."

11:22 AM

Seem to be Chechens.

Really? We're getting Russia's come-uppance then?

Haha no way. Seriously.

That’s the suggestion.

Those people either don't have that kind of money, or they'd rather spend it on killing Putin.

> Gov. Deval Patrick has suspended service on all public transit services in the MBTA system in Boston, including the “T” subway, buses and commuter trains. The authorities asked all residents of the towns of Watertown, Newton, Waltham and Cambridge to stay home and stay indoors. Watertown was locked down early Friday morning, with no one allowed to leave their homes and no businesses allowed to open.

> The surviving suspect was identified as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, of Cambridge, Mass., a law enforcement official said. Investigators believe that that both of the suspects were Chechens, a law enforcement official said.

11:27 AM

AP sources identify the surviving Boston bomber as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19. The man is said to be from Russia’s south, not far from the Chechen Republic.

Or close to Chechnya.

@RegDwighт Maybe they hope that if they kill enough of us, we'll do it for them.

@MετάEd What, invade and overthrow?

@tchrist not far from the Chechen Republic is like 50 countries. Look at the map, it's like medieval Germany there.

@tchrist Don't bother 'em with details.

Yeah.

> The page mentions a school in Makhachkala, the capital of the Republic of Dagestan, as a place Tsarnaev studied between 1999 and 2001. The Tsarnaev family moved to Dagestan from Kyrgyzstan in 2001, the school spokesman told RT. He Dzhokhar studied there for just one year and produced no particular impression, good or bad, on the teachers.

11:29 AM

I have friends in Dagestan. Been to Makhachkala as a child.

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It quickly descended into chaos a couple years ago.

@Robusto that's Bob Dylan.

@Robusto haha, "Главное в жизни: карьера и деньги".

"The most important thing in life: career and money".

Translation?

@RegDwighт bitter laugh

11:32 AM

Religion: Islam.

Speaks three languages.

Or spoke.

What’s the third one?

Nokhchiyn mott, whatever that is.

I suspect some local dialect.

Nadsat.

Wiki sez that's the Chechen language.

Chechen language

The Chechen language (Нохчийн мотт / Noxc̈iyn mott / نوٓخچیین موٓتت (Arabic orthography before latinisation); Medieval Chechen: ) is spoken by more than 1.5 million people, mostly in Chechnya and by Chechen people elsewhere. It is a member of the Northeast Caucasian languages. Classification Chechen is an ergative agglutinative language. Linguistically, it is, together with Ingush and Bats, a member of the Nakh branch of the Northeast Caucasian language family. Dialects There are a number of Chechen dialects: Akkhiy, Chiantiy, Chiebarloy, Mialkhiy, Nokhchmakhkakhoy, Orstkhoy, Sharoy, S...

They fixed non-Latin autoboxing!?

11:34 AM

Not married, born on July 22nd.

@tchrist yeah I wondered.

Actually I don't think they have.

I suppose the page simply doesn't use a template.

To fix the inboxing you'd have to import a number of Wiki templates, and keep them up to date.

And implement parsing.

Obama's prediction to Boston: "You will run again." Unfortunately, that can be taken several ways.

@Robusto when was the screenshot taken? Where you got it from?

I ask cuz it says "last logon today 5:04".

It was @tchrist's link.

@RegDwighт local time, prolly

Yeah but local time on which day.

Presumably somewhere in Russia.

Funny, can't load that page now.

11:40 AM

vk.com/id160300242

Works for me.

"last seen today at 2:04 am"

So today is today, then.

Three new comments in the last ten minutes.

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Haha. YouTube comments already.

> Ya zevu v Bostone i eta suka mnoga vreda prinesla mne i moim znakomym i blizkim, gori v adu. Spasibo Bostonskomi mentam.

Meaning?

> Костя, красава)

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Reductio ad Hitlerum?

@Robusto I live in Boston and this bitch caused a lot of harm to me and my friends and close ones, burn in hell. Thanks to the Boston flicks.

Why are flicks cops again?

I forget.

French.

flic, French for cop.

Well, kinda.

11:47 AM

The comments in the screenshot, in order: "Who are you?" -- "How did you blow it up?" -- "Why did you blow it up?" -- "What for did you blow it up?" -- "Bitch. Below there used to be two videos of his friend, he already deleted them." -- Nazi ensign -- "Blow up Putin" [I told you!] -- "95 blows up" [no idea what that means] -- Fuck you etc. -- "Are you burning in hell yet?" -- "Buddy already deleted the video and himself from buddy list" --

-- "Alexander, he is being awaited by a shitload of virgins there". -- "Who was the buddy?"

@tchrist yes, French. The point is he says thanks but uses the colloquial (and derogatory) term for police officer, that was my way of bringing it across.

The OED doesn’t go further back than saying it’s French. Hm.

Good edit.

So Bob Dylan is a bomber?

Like a rolling stone.

> Yonder stands your orphan with his gun

11:52 AM

We sat in an empty theater and we kissed. I asked you please to cross me off your list. My head tells me it's time to make a change.

:-|

So there was shooting in Boston? I have been not looking.

I have been sleeping and then woke up to this.

It's a snow day without the snow. They are pulling people out of their homes in Watertown and the whole surrounding area is shut down.

I know how it sounds, but: Xblast time!

11:56 AM

@Robusto Pulling out or pushing in?

@tchrist Evacuating. People woken up, sent packing in their bare feet.

I thought they were supposed to hunker down.

You expect any of this to make sense?

Yeah it's strange.

I wonder about my brother-in-law. It sounded like Newton was included.

11:58 AM

Fuck, I'm too distracted to work.

Is there a link to a good source of info?

news.google.com

Really? I thought google news was garbage.

It's a blender page. Go from there.

Why Boston?

12:01 PM

Cuz that's where the bombings were and also the suspects.

And the rich.

Hate to cite Fox News but there it is.

A fucking kid.

It's times like this make me glad I live in the country.

tries not to think about it

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I called my mother-in-law and she was going to call my brother-in-law, but she never called me back. I guess that's good news...

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12:29 PM

I have friends in Cambridge. I haven't heard anything yet either so no news is good news right?

Yeah, gotta figure.

Maybe he'll come here for the weekend.

Sounds like getting out of Boston is a good idea.

They keep telling me they live on the better side of the Charles now, but I guess not this time...

Haha. Ugh.

My thoughts exactly.

The Charles being?

12:33 PM

River.

Oh.

I could apply for a job as an "IT Speicalist."

Friends used to live on the other side of this nice bridge between Boston and MIT area. Can't think of the name of their old neighborhood... Beacon Hill.

At least you'd be speical.

My MiL says she was in a similar situation (under lockdown) when they were looking for the Boston Strangler. Interesting.

@KitFox let me guess, at Leica?

Leica Camera AG, a German optics company, manufactures Leica cameras. The predecessor of the company, formerly known as Ernst Leitz GmbH, is now three companies: Leica Camera AG, Leica Geosystems AG, and Leica Microsystems GmbH, which manufacture cameras, geosurvey equipment, and microscopes, respectively. Leica Microsystems AG owns the Leica brand and licences the sister companies to use it. History Before WWII The first Leica prototypes were built by Oskar Barnack at Ernst Leitz Optische Werke, Wetzlar, in 1913. Intended as a compact camera for landscape photography, particularl...

12:38 PM

No, some train company. But good guess.

I know Leica. How could I not?

Not the greatest optics ever, but very good quality.

Oh no. Now I've got a brain itch.

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I used to draw neuron trees using a scope that had optics such that I could look at the slide and see my sketch at the same time. I adjusted the focus with a foot pedal. What was that thing called?

I have no idea what you're even talking about.

Um. Um. I have no idea but I know what you're talking about.

You've never used a microscope?

12:44 PM

Not for drawing, no. And not with a pedal. Or slides.

Ah, the slide is the thing underneath it?

This one had Leica optics, which is what reminded me.

@RegDwighт The little glass thing, yes.

Gosh who knows such things.

A former research scientist.

So not with a pedal anyway.

But I am none of these things.

Oh, it's going to make me crazy.

12:45 PM

With the exception of "a".

You're not an "a". You're a "the".

I never knew Leica made so many SLRs.

It was a special kind of scope. An optical ... thingy. Damn it. Like microtome.

I woulda described them as that one rangefinder model that's so popular. Huh.

I don't think the right words are in my brain even if I knew where to look.

Vertico-SMI is the fastest light microscope for the 3D analysis of complete cells in the nanometer range. It is based on two technologies developed in 1996, SMI and SPDM. The effective optical resolution of this optical nanoscope has reached the vicinity of 5 nm in 2D and 40 nm in 3D and is therefore substantially better than the physical limit of 200 nm predicted by Abbe‘s law. Abbe postulated in 1873 the theoretical limit of resolution of optical microscopy. The Vertico-SMI microscope was developed by Christoph Cremer, Professor of Applied Optics and Information Processin...

Holy crap. I know Christoph Cremer.

He offered me a job.

12:50 PM

This guy must love Al Pacino and Hitchcock.

Vertico is like Vertigo and Serpico.

He was really nice, but I didn't want to move to Germany.

Germany was really nice, too.

Confocal. Optical sectioning. I used that stuff, I had no idea. I wish I'd known it was his stuff when I met him.

Geezis. The amount of stuff about microscopy that I've forgotten is kind of freaking me out right now.

I forgot an entire chemistry minor, if that makes you feel any better.

I appreciate the effort.

It's helping to keep my mind off things.

Of course, the pictures are of Zeiss instruments. Haha.

12:58 PM

I've always thought Zeiss was a great name for optics, but I don't know why. It sounds like lemon zest to me. Clean.

Yeah, I feel you.

Also, agree with.

@aediaλ Rangefinder != SLR

I know.

k

That's why I was surprised.

1:01 PM

I know a guy with an M9. I rather hate him.

Haha.

Mmmmm, Lemon Zeiss.

Brb coffee

Dr Zeiss.

I presume.

1:03 PM

DxO doesn’t like the sensor Leica’s been using.

That Dr Zeiss, that Dr Zeiss, I do not like that Dr Zeiss.

Do you like green eggs and cram?

Zeiss is Cosina.

Holy crap, I've just seen a photo of Dr Seuss for the first time, I never realized he was the porn producer in Boogie Nights.

No way.

1:07 PM

@tchrist Cosima Liszt von Bülow Wagner

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Way.

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That's a wrap. A Burt Reynolds Wrap.

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No, that is a Burt Reynolds Wrap.

And with that I must be off to a release meeting.

Lators.

tries to unsee

tries harder

Wah. My eyes!

1:13 PM

Hey, I could learn six sigma online!

You could learn sick sigma.

Do you have a source for random corporate bs?

Oh yes.

@Matt has a good one.

(the woman is supposed to make a plan and the template was a huge pile of bs imo)

My idea was to just stuff it with bs and send it

theofficelife.com/business-jargon-dictionary-A.html

2

That should help. I think there is a generator.

1:19 PM

@JohanLarsson Our human resources department handles all that.

I lolled at at this

@Robusto that was my thinking also, outsource or steal it somehow.

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wtflol^

@JohanLarsson atrixnet.com/bs-generator.html

> Admin [n.] Political correctness beat brevity when Secretary became Administrative Assistant. Brevity is back. "Get on the horn with my Admin.

This is also the password for all IT purposes at your company.

1:23 PM

@JohanLarsson on the front page of Spiegel.de right now.

Is that a...a...never mind.

@RegDwighт anon?

No, Gerhard Haderer as the link says. Or you mean the model? That's an Austrian called Hitler.

@JohanLarsson No, right now.

I was champion of the world for a while a couple of weeks ago, then anon stole my code. (true story)

but is der Spiegel hacked?

1:26 PM

Why?

strange pic

Interesting. The action is happening a few blocks from where I often go to get lunch.

It's a free country. You are allowed to look at semi-naked hitlers.

@Robusto pleasant street, eh?

Yup.

Quite.

From Russia, with Love

1:28 PM

From Sasha, with glove.

I must go grab cake while cake still up for grabs.

I must have misread the bomb label.

@Robusto You're kidding! I have been there several times for lunch when we visit my nephew.

Great produce, yeah?

Open air seating is all I remember. Maybe it's not...?

Let me check again.

Do they do sandwiches there?

Yes. It's a combination produce/grocery store and deli.

1:33 PM

OK, yeah. I think that's the place.

We usually get sandwiches or salads and take them back to the office.

There is some seating on a covered patio?

Possibly. I never actually eat there.

It's about 2 miles from my BiL's house.

They have awesome cheese and fresh pasta as well.

1:38 PM

I miss places like that.

I lost five pounds in the last two weeks, but I think I might eat pulled pork tday anyway.

Hah, a Spiegel reporter I know is somewhere around School Street and Arsenal Street right now.

The guy whose wedding my pink balloons picture is from.

Send him to Russo's for lunch.

The one who copypasted the wrong name of the then-German secretary of defense from Wikipedia.

@KitFox I just might.

Poor bugger.

@KitFox well, fast forward a couple years, the secretary of defense had to go, the Spiegel journalist is still a Spiegel journalist.

> Boston Police to Twitter: Stop making up fake Twitter accounts, stop tweeting our scanner, stop telling people where we're going.

Being tweeted and retweeted right now.

1:43 PM

People are so dumb sometimes.

sometimes?

Now, I have one question.

How did they identify that dzhokhar so fast?

They had but two blurry photos.

And how did they get to the two blurry pictures that fast?

I thought it explained it in the article.

Are you suggesting that it is a false flag operation?

On the front page of Spiegel.

1:47 PM

@KitFox exactly. Which explained who exactly was in charge and what they were doing, and ended with that it would likely take them over two weeks.

That was yesterday night.

Well, then they shot an MIT officer in the head.

It kind of blew their cover.

Yes, there's that.

@KitFox I went to the gym one week ago, still in a world of pain.

But the article said it could take them that much to so much as get the material all lined up and ready.

Someone was really fast.

Anyway, looks more and more like dumb bored kids with nothing to do. Not some organized shit.

@RegDwighт Well, sort of. They had a picture and then two guys who looked like the picture made a big show. Then all the bored reporters did the work.

1:53 PM

I think they figured that they would be identified sooner or later, so why not go out with a bang.

I have complicated feelings that are not well-expressed in a short bitter statement. I think I'm going to stuff this leftover garlic bread in my face instead.

@KitFox I'm guessing someone at the dorm confronted them after seeing the photos, which resulted in the brouhaha the MIT officer was called to investigate.

Hard telling not knowing.

Yes, I'm just saying it wasn't in their interest to go around bragging.

It escalated.

One of the by-blows of all this is the immense outpouring of bathos on the airwaves and intertubes. I'm just saying. If I hear about anymore "healing, interfaith" gatherings, I'm going to puke.

1:55 PM

I will pray for you not to puke.

Let's pray together!

Yes. Heal the world, make it a better place.

Let's divide into us and them. That will make us feel safer.

@RegDwighт not ... working ... pukes anyway

We'll draw a circle to keep them out.

1:57 PM

Kumbayah, my Rob, Kumbayah.

strums pathetically poorly-tuned guitar

The world is already divided in US and them and them?

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