The Comms Room

Cole

7:00 PM

@voretaq7 I just don't think it pertinent information unless you're a really good friend or I'm sleeping with you.

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b terrible

HopelessN00b

@WesleyDavid Exempt, FTE for this garbage. So it's not like I get to bill for these 3 hours, but they don't get anything resembling productive work out of me either.

@ewwhite The question is excusable... we've all bounced horrible ideas off a colleague before abandoning them, but the 2 upvotes... what the hell???

voretaq7

@Cole I generally don't consider it pertinent information period. You identify as male, great, you're male. You take testosterone? So does my buddy Will (who lost his balls to testicular cancer) - no difference.

Cole

@voretaq7 if only other people could see it that way :)

voretaq7

@Cole "How the fuck would I know if you didn't tell me?"

Cole

7:03 PM

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Q: MSSQL 2008 R2 writtes too often

so my mssql 2008 r2 acts really strange. We have a database that has a .ldf file that is being written ~70 MBps 24/7 and that's just beggining, every 2-3 mins mdf writting spike appears with ~ 400 MBps writting. And that's causes high I/O. Our host is 2x 240 GB SSD. But we placed both ldf and md...

voretaq7

It's not like not disclosing an STD or something - it's really not relevant

just like I don't go around introducing myself "Hi I'm Mike and I like to bang dudes"

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Well, the inability to have biological children might be pertinent information to some people... so people you're dating seriously.... well, depending, they might need to be looped in.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b Well I despise children :P

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 You... don't? So maybe that's my problem. Maybe I shouldn't lead with my desire to bang when I'm trying to pick up women.

@voretaq7 Yeah, me too, so I doubt I'd care, but a lot of people ~~feel differently~~ are crazy.

ewwhite

Want faster servers? thesmarterwaytofaster.com

Chris S

7:11 PM

Nytro is crazy expensive.... But I suppose it's a good alternative to FusionIO or something

SpacemanSpiff

@Cole - bike as in motorcycle?

Cole

@SpacemanSpiff no, as in bicycle

SpacemanSpiff

cool

i need a new one myself

Cole

A motorcycle would be much too large for my small self

Jeff Ferland

@Cole Ninja 250?

ewwhite

7:17 PM

@ChrisS Not too expensive... lik $4-8k

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Pffft. Overpriced hype. Just paint the servers red and put a racing stripe on them. Speeds them up plenty, for a much lower cost.

Cole

@JeffFerland I think that's the only one I'd be able to ride

Jeff Ferland

@Cole Well, it's a good one. Get on it ;)

Chris S

the server I'm on now could use a healthy dose of RAM, 3GB ain't enough

Cole

@JeffFerland I'd probably kill myself with all the potholes in MA

WesleyDavid

7:21 PM

@ewwhite I like their style. Want faster servers? Don't optimize your application! Buy MOAR SSDs!!

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite What timetable were you thinking for that opening

ewwhite

@JoelESalas this month!!

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Emailing now

ewwhite

Received.

@JoelESalas So why you wanna leave?

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Most of the reasons why I joined up have either left or changed

also we were projected to have 1M users by June, we currently have a lot less than that

I don't even necessarily dislike what I do, I actually like it quite a bit

but the management is different and the politics are not in my favor

ewwhite

7:42 PM

@JoelESalas how much do you like puppetizing?

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Oh lots :3

ewwhite

Resume too long!

Joel E Salas

I know :(

last two pages are junk, some people have asked for a longer job history though

Cole

@JoelESalas have two separate resumes! :)

ewwhite

you should see MY resume!

Cole

7:49 PM

@ewwhite super long or short?

Joel E Salas

@Cole It's roughly as long as a James Joyce novel

Cole

@JoelESalas lulz

MIfe

Maybe this is just a misconception or bad timing, but it seems to me that everyone in here is looking for different work.

Is this place like - having a corrupting influence?!

Joel E Salas

@MIfe We're very misbehaved

ewwhite

3-page resume! @JoelESalas

Joel E Salas

7:56 PM

:( am I fired already

ewwhite

and format your resume!

Joel E Salas

Ok I will trim and reformat

ewwhite

:)

you don't neeeed to.

This is a quest to see who's the devoppiest of them all!

Wait, did you do this résumé in MS Paint?!?

@MIfe people are rarely satisfied in their jobs

I used to interview a lot... all the time.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite It was google docs, exported to PDF

apparently it does some kind of janky compression and it looks like ass!

ewwhite

(MS Paint)

MIfe

8:03 PM

@ewwhite can depend on the job you can get. But its better than working in a factory. IT is overall pretty damned cushy.

tombull89

Facebooks image uploader is derping out on me...

Adrian

@ewwhite That's why I like finding a company whose mission I really care about.

ewwhite

@MIfe What about IT in a factory?

David

@ewwhite thats not too far off from my work's server room lol

Ryan Ries

That looks like a combination SAP and billing system right there!

ewwhite

8:09 PM

Always the produce

We keep it real in warehouse IT...

(Netgear NEVER fails)

Adrian

Yes, my recommendation is to use the ServerFault search function to look for questions that already deal with your issue. Your question has probably been asked about 100 times in various ways. — Adrian 19 secs ago

Too mean?

ewwhite

Resume tip: Always give a blurb about what each company does...

BigWells Technology / Zen-Fire – Financial Trading Engine Platform • Chicago, IL

CMT Asset Management/xCelor, LLC – Global Hedge Fund (HFoF)/Trading Firm • Chicago, IL

Chris S

@ewwhite Netgear hiss

ewwhite

Brazzers - no comment • Anytown, USA

freiheit

@ewwhite Unless it's super-obvious (IBM, a university with prestige or "University" in its name).

Adrian

8:16 PM

@ewwhite Agreed. Though having them ask about it gives a good opportunity to talk about your role.

ewwhite

University of Illinois – School of Music • Computer Music Project/Experimental Music Studios (UIUC) • Urbana, IL

Adrian

@freiheit Actually, IBM is so big that nobody knows exactly what part of IBM your group is doing unless you put that kind of information in the resume'.

freiheit

@ewwhite I know somebody that used to work for kink.com(NSFW). Lots of interesting IT stuff there around streaming video, bandwidth, etc...

ewwhite

@Adrian people don't want to have to google it

Adrian

@ewwhite it's entirely possible that you and I are interviewing with different types of companies with different attitudes though.

Cole

8:20 PM

@ewwhite working IT in a factory sucks

Chris S

@Adrian The first question I found while searching has a wrong answer.... or it's misleading and dated at the least

mossy

Well, I move in on the 22nd

Ryan Ries

Automatic reply: I am currently out of the office attending the musical chairs national championship. I will be back when the music stops.

mossy

Ended up renting an apt. (no roommate because they suck)

Cole

@mossy I hate having a roommate

HopelessN00b

8:22 PM

@mossy What's wrong with a roommate who sucks? Any chick who lives with me better suck.

Cole

My cat is my roommate and HE sucks

mossy

@Cole I don't have anything to put in it :|

i have a bed.

and..

shoes.

Cole

@mossy that's a...start.

Tanner

@mossy I flipped in and it and was very confused about what you were doing to your shoes.

Jacob

@ewwhite WHOA! You're doing the hiring stuff at $day_job?

Adrian

8:25 PM

@ChrisS ok. I'm sure there's others. I know any number of us have answered that question before.

Jacob

@ewwhite Can I send you my StackCareers Résumé ? :D

Cole

Apparently when my meds are at the correct dosage I answer a lot of questions on SF, close out 15 tickets at work and not all Mr Mopey Face in here.

Ok I'm going home later

Dan

8:54 PM

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Q: Special assigment Guru

I am attempting to trouble shoot a Motorola MC55C an issue it keeps losing connection ( white screens) it's not the wifi ( proven but may have roaming issues or sticky wifi) maybe wifi protocols and or conflicting other software on hand held anyone have any ideas or any other technical manual...

wifi bsod scanner

close reason: OP on crack

Hey @Dan

Hey

@Dan wtf

9:10 PM

PowerShell question... How can I use Where-Object when the property I'm looking for isn't a string, integer, etc? Get-Member shows System.Nullable[Citrix.XenApp.Commands.SessionProtocolType] Protocol and I'm trying to grab all the $_.protocol -eq "Ica" but it comes up blank.

voretaq7

3

Q: Why is everyone trying to ram me?

So I was trying to steal a muscle car during one of the side-missions available through Saintsbook, but while driving the car back to the chop shop something rather peculiar happened. Each and every car on the road veered into my path just as I was about to pass it, making it amazingly difficult ...

saints-row-the-third

^ And they closed down Sexuality.SE

Cole

lolram

Jacob

So, I'm considering applying for the SE admin position just to see what they say.

Chris S

@Jacob Are you willing to move to NYC?

Jacob

@ChrisS Yeah, if it came down to that.

voretaq7

9:20 PM

@ChrisS everyone is willing to move to NYC - it's like asking 'Are you willing to move to San Francisco?'

Jacob

@voretaq7 NYC>SF

voretaq7

@Jacob meh, about the same honestly...

Chris S

@voretaq7 I'm not... I guess I'm not "everyone"

voretaq7

@ChrisS you're a vegetarian, nobody cares what you do :P

Chris S

@voretaq7 What makes you think I'm a vege?

Jacob

9:21 PM

@ChrisS DC isn't far enough, and I don't want to move to the west coast, so NYC seems like an acceptable compromise.

voretaq7

►

Chris S

@voretaq7 I don't think they referenced me in that particular episode.

voretaq7

@ChrisS no but that's what the quote's from

freiheit

@voretaq7 but NY gets hot in summer and cold in winter! SF stays between 50F and 65F 99% of the time, no matter the season

voretaq7

@freiheit "SF is always kind of cold", yes.

and riddled with hills and narrow streets

but lots of acceptable IT jobs

Jacob

9:24 PM

@freiheit Eh, NY is more similar to VA than SF. I'd take sometimes hot over always cold.

voretaq7

@Jacob NY isn't really similar to VA

We have winters that will freeze your man-parts off

and summers that will make them sweat until you wish they'd fallen off in winter

Jacob

@voretaq7 That's VA

freiheit

@voretaq7 No snow, no heat waves... If you're on a bike you use the wiggle and if you're into cars you get an automatic...

voretaq7

@Jacob your winters suck less

Jacob

@voretaq7 Meh, I don't care about the season.

voretaq7

9:27 PM

@freiheit you do have the beginnings of a smog problem in parts of SF now though from what I'm hearing

freiheit

@Jacob SF isn't really ever cold, just vaguely chilly. You wear jeans and bring a lightweight jacket or sweater

voretaq7

@Jacob you say that now, but how will you feel after the bus gets done flinging black slime on your new coat.

freiheit

@voretaq7 Actually, I mostly stay 45-50 miles away from SF. :)

voretaq7

@freiheit I mostly stay 45-50 miles from Manhattan

Jacob

@freiheit The biggest difference is the insane flight from VA-->CA .

Not worth it

freiheit

9:28 PM

@voretaq7 Do you also really emphasize the G at the end of "Long"?

Jacob

And I'd have to be a windows admin (again) shudder

voretaq7

@freiheit No. I speak English you fools.

MikeyB

Holy fucking shit. Have I got a story.

voretaq7

@MikeyB of a lovely lady?

freiheit

@voretaq7 I speak Californian, where "badminton" and "batman" don't have 't's or 'd's...

voretaq7

9:32 PM

@freiheit I defy anyone to place my accent

invariably people get it wrong.

Jacob

@voretaq7 Clearly your a KGB agent left over from the cold war...

It's the only explanation

voretaq7

@Jacob Da comrade.

freiheit

@Jacob I've been watching a documentary about his type! The Ameri☭ans

Adrian

Howdy doods.

Jacob

@voretaq7 I'm from the other side of Germany.

voretaq7

9:35 PM

@Jacob hiss

Jacob

@freiheit WTF there is really a Unicode sickle.

MikeyB

Just got back from a customer who called us up to diagnose some weird Xsan filesystem related issues. Found an (arguable) bug in the way that OS X resolves ACLs. That's not the story.
We sold them a new shelf for their storage subsystem a few weeks ago. They didn't take the installation services offered.
Used their usual contractor to do it. He came in, said "Oh, we should rebuild your xsan luns for (whatever reason)." That's not the story.
He backed up all the Xsan data (with rsync to an iSCSI LUN, how pro) and then nuked the Xsan luns.

5

Jacob

@MikeyB Someone is out of a job, and someone got a good laugh.

@freiheit Is it any good?

voretaq7

@MikeyB . . . him pro much!

MikeyB

I am still gobsmacked over this.

voretaq7

9:40 PM

@MikeyB gaming.stackexchange.com/election/3#post-49061 <- is that their usual installation contractor?

Jacob

@voretaq7 HAHAHAHAHA

freiheit

@Jacob If only there was unicode for flipping it left-to-right...

@Jacob Yeah, it is pretty good

MikeyB

The REALLY unfortunate thing is that I still have my notes from the original install, there's an outside chance I could have recreated the LUNs.

freiheit

These two things aren't related, right?

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preventative-maintenance

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voretaq7

@freiheit I don't suppose slime would make a particularly good l00b, no.

MikeyB

9:47 PM

3

That deserved to be immortalized

voretaq7

I also don't think you should dilute slime

but you guys also run some crazy high tire pressures in bike tubes don't you?

Adrian

Dang. That was instructive. My contracting company is disabling my internal mail account before the accounts are even turned off at the place I was working.

voretaq7

@Adrian ?

Adrian

Have accounts for internal contracting company mail & time accounting. They're being disabled now. The place I was working at isn't turning us off until tonight.

MDMarra

Yo, @RyanRies. You'll get a kick out of this. Got called into a planning meeting for a client that wants to migrate to a new forest because their root has...wait for it...an underscore in the name.

Adrian

9:54 PM

He'll, I was still working with one of the recruiters there. Was, I guess.

freiheit

@voretaq7 Usually Slime is in mountain bike tubes that will be somewhere between, uhm, 30 and 65psi... The crazy high-pressure tires don't get any Slime

MDMarra

@MikeyB So awesome

voretaq7

@freiheit I consider that to be pretty high pressure

freiheit

@voretaq7 200psi (like on a track racing bike) is crazy high. Has to be over 100psi on a bike to really be "high"

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite When do you think I'll hear back?

freiheit

10:04 PM

(really, there's a relation between the width of the tire and the pressure. A bigger tire at the same pressure has higher forces at the rim)

MDMarra

@JoelESalas Are you applying to devops with Ed?

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra Yes I'll do the dirty work

MDMarra

Edops

Joel E Salas

#yolo #colo #devops #fitness #nutrition #2013

2

MDMarra

Speaking of nutrition, I need to thaw the beef for the cheesesteaks I'm making tonight

Joel E Salas

10:09 PM

i should have thrown #brogrammer in there

MDMarra

@JoelESalas I at at a restaurant themed after your native people yesterday

I still have heartburn

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra You should find a vegan mexican restaurant

ewwhite

10:28 PM

@MDMarra Better be Tony Luke's

@JoelESalas not suuuure

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Just wondering, I have a few other places to talk to, and a decision to make on this most recent offer

ewwhite

I'll ask monday

Joel E Salas

My fuckup this last time out was not waiting for multiple offers

Cole

@JoelESalas you got an offer for a new jerb?

Joel E Salas

Yes

Cole

10:33 PM

@JoelESalas sweet!

Joel E Salas

I know! It's a great offer, but I get too excited and choose too soon

Cole

What's the position?

Joel E Salas

DevOps/Automation engineer

Cole

Sweet

ewwhite

Where?

MDMarra

10:53 PM

@ewwhite Tony Lukes is dog food

and I'm making my own

freiheit

MDMarra

@ewwhite next time you're in Philly, we'll get real food here or here

Ryan Ries

@MDMarra Uugggh, really? An underscore?

MDMarra

yup

ADMT it is

Jacob

@ewwhite How pressed is the company for NOC guys?

Joel E Salas

11:04 PM

@ewwhite (redacted)

Ryan Ries

Microsoft really should disallow people from using invalid DNS chars in their forest name, in the same way they don't let you use a single label name any more

Jacob

@JoelESalas no! How could you work for such a silly place?

Ryan Ries

They gave them the rope to hang themselves with

Joel E Salas

@Jacob what

MDMarra

@RyanRies I didn't know you still could

Joel E Salas

11:05 PM

@Jacob because they make a lot of money

Jacob

@JoelESalas fair enough

@JoelESalas BUT you could go work at ewwhite's day job and be Cole's and my(not likely) boss with ewwhite

Joel E Salas

@Jacob As long as I can live in callyfawnia

ewwhite

@MDMarra I've seen your beard... As a result, I'm not sure I can go out in public with you.

@JoelESalas Oh, I was away... what's the deal?

eh, a bit wack...

MDMarra

@ewwhite That says I'm trustworthy

Jacob

@ewwhite wait wait, does having a full beard improve my chances of getting hired then?

ewwhite

11:15 PM

@MDMarra can you convert it to an Amish beard?

freiheit

@ewwhite According to that chart, I get less trustworthy in summer...

MDMarra

@ewwhite I could.

But I won't

ewwhite

So I have a customer with a problem...

It always begins with that...

They want 10,000 IOPS

or 20,000 IOPS

freiheit

@MDMarra Monkeytail beard, then?

ewwhite

and I've proposed all sorts of shit.

MDMarra

11:18 PM

ewwhite

but now, they're asking if we will build them an HP Lefthand P4900

($125,000 all-SSD SAN)

MDMarra

Why Lefthand at that price?

ewwhite

Exactly!

We quoted them EMC

but this can run perfectly fine in a $17k-$20k PogoLinux box, too.

Client:

MDMarra

So with that LeftHand you're down to 3.2TB before you even RAID

ewwhite

*Have you looked at the following SAN SSD products?*
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/12169-304616-3930449-3930449-3930449-4118659-5219813-5219814.html?dnr=1

http://www.kaminario.com/index.php

http://www.nimbusdata.com/index.html

MDMarra

11:20 PM

Assuming you cluster them

And if you don't cluster them, you're a dumbass

ewwhite

they need 3TB usable

but lefthand isn't that fast.

MDMarra

not happening with those lefthands

Assuming you cluster R1 the two nodes and then R5 the SSD you're at 2.8

but that's assuming you can R5 all 8 disks

R5 in a P4500 for example, is actually R50 and splits the shelf in half as two R5s and stripes over them

Not sure if the 4900 is similar

ewwhite

yep, network RAID

and you know what a Lefthand is?

A DL180 with SanIQ and some SSDs in it.

MDMarra

Yeah

I managed 4 P4500s

They're nice for the price in an entry-level setup

It doesn't make sense to spend $100k+ though

ewwhite

at $125k... the client would end up paying ~$35k/mo.

Michael Hampton

11:28 PM

"It's insanely expensive, and it doesn't meet your specs anyway."

@ewwhite Maybe they could use your old Sun!

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton not enough IOPS!!!

Michael Hampton

Hm, OK scratch that.

ewwhite

actually, it could do the job...

I quoted one of these at $19k with all SSDs

and fibre-channel connectivity

this is just for a SQL server cluster

MDMarra

Just do local disk and mirroring

local SSD

done

it's what stack exchange does

ewwhite

they want a SAN now

this has been a weeks-long battle

I think the problem is someone saying, "we just want magical SSDs" with no justification.

Joel E Salas

11:34 PM

@ewwhite SSDs are the cloud of storage

MDMarra

why do you battle with your customers that are trying to give you money?

Joel E Salas

because fuck those guys!

ewwhite

@MDMarra because we need something supportable

looks worse to install what the customer wants and have it blow up

MDMarra

I don't get what you do though

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Would I be involved in these types of conversations?

MDMarra

11:36 PM

Do you cloud their infrastructure from them?

Or do you just super-colo stuff for them?

ewwhite

this would be a private cloud customer...

so we are providing IaaS

We own the gear.

MDMarra

So isn't the whole point of private cloud that the underlying hardware doesnt matter

ewwhite

yet it does...

MDMarra

and as long as you meet their performance requirements, the details dont matter?

so then why are they telling you what hardware to buy?

ewwhite

healthcare company... they have 35 ESXi hosts.

MDMarra

11:38 PM

so?

ewwhite

and they can choose the tier of storage

Isilon, EMC, local, etc.

in this particular case, client wants "FusionIO or equivalent"

with no justification

@JoelESalas yes, potentially

client won't sit down to talk tech

I think it's a language barrier

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Can you ask them to measure their current IOPS?

or is this all new infrastructure

ewwhite

We know it... as we just put them on an HP P2000 G3 SAN with fiber and 16 x 600GB SAS disks.

but they're now saying they want 10-20k IOPS

for 3TB usable

MikeyB

Almost forgot this gem, guys:

This same array, we'll be going in next week to replace a controller.

Customer: "We're having some odd controller issues, but you really have to dig down to see it."
Me: "Ok…???"
Customer: "We called Promise and they determined it was a dead controller. They're sending one out to us, can you install it?"
Me: "Sure, no problem."

When I went in today, one of the controllers was offline and blinking nasty amber lights.

Checked the web interface. It said: "OH, EVERYTHING'S FINE! ALL GREEN!"

Under system properties or whatever the hell it's called I see:

@ewwhite You need to use it more. Added bonus: feels like someone else.

ewwhite

@MikeyB Like giving yourself a stranger?

Joel E Salas

11:46 PM

@ewwhite lol'd

ewwhite

So yes, @JoelESalas - You'd potentiallyhave to deal with this stuff

I just checked the client's website to see what they do

Hmmm, interesting

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