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Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
12:00 AM
@JimmyHoffa Click on the helpful flag count in your profile. If it says helpful or declined next to the flag, we've handled it.
@JimmyHoffa Why a crawler when we have SEDE?
You know about SEDE, right? If not: data.stackexchange.com/programmers/queries
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@YannisRizos I know about it, and I know that with sufficiently complex queries it tanks under the load :P
Perhaps I'll give that a shot tonight
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
@JimmyHoffa On SO yes, because the dataset is truly massive. On ProgSE's database most complex queries run just fine.
 
user55340
12:49 AM
Best bet for bad comments - a query that finds the answers with the most comments in them.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
1:07 AM
I'm thinking more like "+1 good answer!" comments because they add nothing, unlike"+1 because ..."
 
 
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Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
2:30 AM
Is there any way to see how you got an invite to careers.SO?
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa I got mine from Anna Lear or Dan McGrath, I forget which.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
no clue where mine came from, just got an e-mail one day
does it say in the email? guess maybe I should look closer
 
user20683
2:45 AM
@JimmyHoffa I don't recall
 
user20683
I had mine for somewhere around a year before I touched it
 
user20683
you automatically get one at some point I think
 
user20683
if you have enough rep and so on
 
user20683
 
user20683
apparently there's a secret formula
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:07 AM
yeah I know there's actually a variety of secret ways you can get one automatically
Wonder how I got mine
 
user55340
3:24 AM
The judgement call on a reopen audit is a bit of a fine line (I apparently failed one). The question contained the text "Does newer mean better? What's the difference between the two methods? If I wish to create a new project, how do I choose which method to go with?" -- that says to me "not constructive." and "too many questions asked in a single question."
 
user20683
@MichaelT yeah it's a tough line
 
user55340
Noting that the question is open, hasn't been closed (or reopened), I'm tempted to close it now.
 
user55340
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Q: BackgroundWorker vs. Async/Await

robert.ecotI am new to C# development and wish to create a more responsive UI. In my preliminary research, I have seen two methods for achieving this: Multi-threading in conjunction with the BackgroundWorker class. The newer Async/Await modifiers. Does newer mean better? What's the difference between t...

c# .net multithreading async
 
user55340
Thats the one my audit was of.
 
user55340
If it said it was closed, I'd be fine with leaving it closed.
 
user55340
3:33 AM
And that probability of a hash collision question (that showed up in the comments of my answer) is now on Math.SE - which will likely give a better answer than I can do... or at least I sincerely hope so.
 
user55340
0
Q: probability of repeating values in a hashmap

omegaSuppose you have a hashmap where you store values. The hashmap is of size m and supports chaining. The hash function is simple uniform hashing assumption. I understand that the average length of a chain is the load factor. But if you were storing values from a set into the hashmap, what is the pr...

probability hash-function
 
user20683
@MichaelT That might be a better fit on CS.SE but I'm sure math can brain him nicely.
 
user55340
Two factors - first, when you start dealing with probabilities, I think 'this is more of a math problem' than 'this is more of a CS problem.' Yes, it has CS applications, but its a math problem at heart. Secondly, when checking to see if it fit the math FAQ, the following question was being asked and answered...
 
user55340
0
Q: Question about uniform distribution

lord12Why does $p(x) =1$ for a distribution $U(0,1)$? Shouldn't the probability be $0$ for any one point? I don't understand the intuition behind this.

probability
 
user55340
Which suggested that a hash function (and they had the tag too!) question would be applicable.
 
user55340
3:39 AM
And digging in a bit more...
 
user55340
0
Q: Hash Functions and Probabilty

pavluccoWe are considering bit strings of length 160. Let there be some input x, and hash function $H(x) \rightarrow \left \{ 0,1 \right \}^{160}$. How many turns at least it takes to make collision: $H(x_{1})=H(x_{2})$? I've heard that it may have something common with Birthday Paradox or some probabil...

probability hash-function
 
user55340
It may end up as a link/explanation to the generalized birthday problem though...
 
user55340
Birthday problem
In probability theory, the birthday problem or birthday paradox concerns the probability that, in a set of n randomly chosen people, some pair of them will have the same birthday. By the pigeonhole principle, the probability reaches 100% when the number of people reaches 367 (since there are 366 possible birthdays, including February 29). However, 99% probability is reached with just 57 people, and 50% probability with 23 people. These conclusions include the assumption that each day of the year (except February 29) is equally probable for a birthday. The mathematics behind this problem l...
 
user20683
@MichaelT
 
user20683
5
Q: Random Balls in Random Buckets: What are the characteristics of the distribution?

Brent.LongboroughI have N buckets, numbered 1 to N. I draw k random integers, uniformly distributed in the range 1 to N, with replacement, and for each integer I drop a ball into the corresponding bucket. k can be any size; specifically it can be any value from 2 to N, or larger than N. What are the statistica...

distributions uniform
 
user55340
4:12 AM
Tangent to something said earlier... about characters of chinese or something. A recent what-if xkcd mentioned that English characters have between 1.0 and 1.2 bits of information in them (see languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/Shannon1950.pdf for more math than I care to look at)... I wonder what the information density of chinese pictographs is compared to english characters.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
5:08 AM
I'm glad there are a little bit of haskellers on P.SE, but I do wish there were more. I just asked a Q on SO because I don't suspect it would get the foot traffic on P.SE to find someone who actually knows the answer, where it will be seen by far more folks on SO and someone may recognize it
 
 
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gnat
gnat
7:57 AM
@MichaelT I pass these easily with "Skip". Takes clicking the link to see that question is open, but since I always do that in reopen queue anyway, this isn't an issue :)
 
 
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gnat
gnat
9:30 AM
MSO content dispute on a question that likely could have a home at Programmers, would it be OK to migrate here?...
0
Q: What is the rationale for closing "why" questions on a language design?

penarturMy question was closed as "ambiguous, vague, incomplete, overly broad, or rhetorical". It could easily be seen that none of these attributes are applicable to the question. It was said later in the discussion, that "why" questions considering language design / specifications are not allowed on S...

discussion stackoverflow specific-question closed-questions
question in question is...
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Q: Why there are no compound assignment operators for logical operators (such as ||, && etc)?

penarturAccording to ECMA-262, part 11.13, following is the exhaustive list of compound assignment operators: *= /= %= += -= <<= >>= >>>= &= ^= |=. According to the part 11.11, var c = a || b will put a value into c if ToBoolean(a) is true and will put b value into c otherwise. ...

javascript ecma262
 
 
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hitokiri82
hitokiri82
11:44 AM
Hello World
Is anyone around?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
12:26 PM
You just totally made me hear a pink floyd riff in my head...hello....is anyone out there?
 
 
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Jim G.
Jim G.
2:51 PM
@ChrisF: I just saw that you're a Stackoverflow moderator candidate. Good luck! [I just upvoted your candidacy.]
 
ChrisF
ChrisF
@JimG. Thanks. Though the next round of voting is the important one :)
 
Jim G.
Jim G.
@ChrisF Well you've got my vote to start. Of course you'll need many more. :)
 
ChrisF
ChrisF
I'm currently thinking I'll need to rely on people's second and third votes if I'm going to get elected. Andrew should get it on people's first votes alone (and rightly so)
In terms of moderating SO I'd be happy with most of the top 9 or 10 candidates.
Just seen that someone's down-voted an old answer of mine. It always intrigues me when this happens, as someone has obviously found something wrong with the answer that (in this case) 10 other people missed but didn't feel it necessary to tell me what that was.
 
CBenni
CBenni
is there a good overview program/webpage that helps choosing a license for my software? Or should I ask it in some SE page (for example, here on programmers)?
 
user55340
That question comes up often enough that it would be a good project for some FSF advocate to write an app that asks questions (the famous 'animals' game) and shows the correct license based on those answers.
 
CBenni
CBenni
3:01 PM
I guess that means no ^.^
I looked through a incomplete list on wikipedia, but I didnt find what I wanted
basically, its free to use, but semi-closed source
meaning, I wont give the sources to anyone, only those who ask politely xD
and then I dont want them to redistribute it or pretend it was theirs, even using the source requires referencing me.
 
user55340
It sounds like dbad... though that isn't a well recognized one.
 
CBenni
CBenni
:D
maybe ill just ask, there might be someone who knows more
I am sure the license I am looking for is not one of the most common ones
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@ChrisF I think it's great that even old stuff can get updated - but a late, silent downvote on a high-vote response is frustrating!
 
CBenni
CBenni
@MadKeithV there seems to be a secret clan on the internet
that downvotes everything they find
 
user41796
@gnat - that question would be on-topic based upon some of the other historical questions that are in our queue. My initial guess is that it's due to the limited character set available on keyboards when C & predecessors were designed.
 
user41796
3:15 PM
It's slightly more constructive than the braces question. However, the criticisms against it are equally valid.
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@CBenni @CBenni It's not secret, I'm part of it! Whoops, let the cat out of the bag. BTW - is something like this: smashingmagazine.com/2010/03/24/… - what you were looking for in licensing? Or this: codinghorror.com/blog/2007/04/pick-a-license-any-license.html
 
user41796
@gnat - I've flagged the SO Q for migration and provided an answer within the MSO discussion. Oh! Oh! maybe I'll get some MSO rep out of this, too! ;-)
 
user55340
Does anyone remeber (or are my grey hairs showing) 'animals'? "Think of an animal. Does it live in the water? Yes. Is it a fish? No. I give up, what are you thinking of? seal What question would distinguish between a seal and a fish? Is it a mammal? What would the correct answer for a seal be? Yes"
 
user55340
If that could be done for licenses... even if that is a bit simplistic (a here are four options to this question)...
 
ChrisF
ChrisF
@MadKeithV Yeah. If something's wrong (or gone out of date) then it needs updating. But if you don't tell me what's wrong I can't fix it.
 
user20683
3:27 PM
@cbenni This may help
 
user20683
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A: Preparing to release code as open-source

Mark BoothChoose your licence If your code has been closed source up to now, the first thing you should do is decide on which open source license (GPL <=2, GPL 3, LGPL, BSD, Eclipse etc.) you want to use. There are pro's and cons to each, so read up on what restrictions they place on the code and deci...

 
user55340
Btw, phase 1 of my april's fools joke is in place. There is a candy dish of plain M&Ms at my desk. Phase 2 happens in 4 weeks... did you know that skittles have the same color and shape and size as plain M&M's?
 
gnat
gnat
3:49 PM
sometimes, it really strikes me how little SE is willing to invest into usability of moderation tools. * Ability to comment to deleted posts to communicate authors and guide 10K-readers, no freaking way, let them mods invent their creative weays to do this. * Broken formula brings much crap answers into hot questions, no need to fix, let them mods handle consequences. * Dedicated flag to simplify handling link only answers, no need, let mods sort it out... somehow. * Undelete comments to simplify cleaning long discussions - no, if you need to keep 2 of 100, just delete 98 one by one... — gnat 1 hour ago
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:00 PM
38
Q: Are you still confused about what Programmers is for?

Robert HarveyI'm going to try and keep this short, because a lot of it has already been discussed. If you are interested in the history, you can find it here on Programmers Meta, but here's a very brief recap: Programmers started out life as "Not Programming Related." It was supposed to be a haven for all...

discussion featured scope
why does this have 14 answers?
 
ChrisF
ChrisF
(deleted sarcastic comment)
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
> I think its pretty clear that this place is either a complete mess, or a haven for people who get a huge thrill from down voting and closing questions.
> Nobody knows what this site if for, what is on topic or what is off..
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@maple_shaft Beating a zombie horse? Yeah I know, I responded too, but in a kind of positive way, and it DID actually get me participating again (DAMN YOU, META!!!)
 
user55340
@MadKeithV I am interested in what you find interesting...
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
> The problem is this combined with a small army of mods many of whom I've never actually seen actively participating in any manner other than closing things who don't seem to understand that conceptual questions are inherently subjective.
> Nice. Silent downvote for criticism. That's a good way to make Programmers more expert-friendly.
I see the common thread are the same confusions and mix ups about what SE is what it isnt
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
4:04 PM
@MichaelT The question you linked was interesting, but unfortunately completely outside of my knowledge, and I've been rightfully shot down here before for responding to a question I actually knew nothing about. I found this one: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/189476/… interesting, and did respond. It's not going to be a big hitter, but it's a nice question.
 
user55340
@maple_shaft That is indeed an underlying theme.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
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A: Implementing the Visitor Pattern for an Abstract Syntax Tree

MadKeithVI have implemented the visitor pattern on a recursive tree before. My particular recursive data structure was extremely simple - just three node types: the generic node, an internal node that has children, and a leaf node that has data. This is much simpler than I expect your AST to be, but pe...

nice non response there
;-)
I still stand by what I said....
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@maple_shaft - I thought that was a pretty concrete response, with a bit of "probably not a good match to your situation" waffle ;-)
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
the vast majority want book polls, and forum discussions because it allows people to talk who otherwise know little about the subject
 
user55340
I believe that SE is a challenging concept to being with - people are under the impression of a forum because thats what most of the rest of the web 2.0 is about. Endless comments on youtube and every bit of the user generated content is "valuable"
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:08 PM
@MichaelT it runs counter to Social Media
in social media, I can talk about how people need to mind their business and that Obama/Boehner is an idiot because of (insert something I have no real knowledge about)
 
user55340
Unfortunately, that isn't the case with SE. The nature of P.SE makes this even more of a challenge than other large SE sites (SO I'm looking at you) to craft a question in a way that fits into a way that can have an authoritative answer. People who have learned to write questions that way do well here.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
@MichaelT We still need to try and edit things more
people by and large don't know how to ask good questions
 
user55340
The unfortunate part of my previous message is the misconceptions... not that SE is designed like it is. It is designed the way it is so that it can scale (as SO shows it is possible).
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@maple_shaft - I agree that it's HARD, but it's worthwhile even if it's frustrating (well, now I'm projecting, I'm just frustrated that I'm not earning truckloads of rep from my totally awesome answers). Part of it is the "dead horse beating" on Meta - that's also part of the continual education and re-education of participants on what SE is and isn't. Every time I think I get it, it gets a bit more complicated!
 
user55340
We do need to edit more, though I prefer working with the original author to try to find out what the actual question is when it is possible. I hesitate to completely redo a question to try to keep just what I believe the real question is if it isn't what the author intended.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:11 PM
SO scales because anybody on W3Schools could ask a legit question on Javascript
that is most developers
 
user55340
(example of a rewrite that I dislike doing, but was necessary to save the question - programmers.stackexchange.com/posts/183982/revisions )
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
few of us handle problems daily where we discuss utilization of junior developers on an agile project, or the best design to fit X scenario
everybody wants to think they are on that level though
i know it sounds condescending but that is the problem with the industry in general
just think about how many awful programs we had to maintain over the years designed by people who thought they knew what they were doing
 
user55340
@maple_shaft FWIW, few of us are actually on real agile projects to have knowledge of what to do with jr developers.
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
Tongue-in-cheek: there's no such thing as a real agile project, unless it was successful, then it was a real agile project!
 
user55340
Ever read the C2 about C3? (yes, I know that was confusing)
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:15 PM
So bottom line is... idk
 
user55340
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
software development is too undisciplined an industry for a site like this
maybe?
I am not really frustrated with coaching new users, only for them to understand and realize, wow... I don't know how to contribute here, you guys are above my abilities
it is what it is
perhaps we need more lurkers and less experts anyway?
 
user55340
The difficulty that I have with coaching is commuicating with them outside of the context of a question. On meta, thats somewhat possible. On a question, its not right. There's no way to mentor someone who has no posts (they've been deleted).
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
@MichaelT NewUser402924: Meta? whats that? Why can't you just answer my damn question?!
its too much new information to throw on somebody at once
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@maple_shaft That's the most succinct capturing of my understanding of the problem I've seen. I previously stopped participating for a time because there were not enough questions where I felt I could contribute.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:20 PM
meta discussions in comments have to be tolerated to a point
 
user55340
I believe those that show up in chat, we can (and have!) done good things with.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
@MadKeithV Your answer was good... we just don't have a swarm of easy questions like SO
 
user55340
I further believe that chat can provide a good outlet for those questions where someone is looking for a book on C...
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@MichaelT I always did find it ironic that the Poster Project for Agile was canceled. Don't get me wrong, it has some good ideas, but that whole movement has been snowed under in dogmatism and cargo cultism.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
@MadKeithV You mean like the industry in general? Again, not disciplined
 
user55340
4:21 PM
@MadKeithV And those that aren't dogmatic are often often only doing it half arsed
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
Maybe the tagline for Programmers should change to "you'll need to spend at least 10seconds per rep point thinking about your answer here!"
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
@MichaelT Chat would be perfect. But you need 20 rep to use chat. Back where we started.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
@MadKeithV You think thats bad? Try earning rep on Skeptics
 
user55340
Most people who show up here have 101 rep from some other site.
 
user55340
They are often the worst offenders, and hopefully the most eaisly shown how things work here.
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
4:23 PM
@MichaelT Hm, that used to be true, but lately we've been getting a lot of total noobs.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
@YannisRizos Please don't use the N word, it is a bit condescending
;-)
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
@maple_shaft Nonsense. Hey, that's also a N word. ;P
 
user55340
Never nuance N-nouns.
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
Negligible .Net Knowledge. Okay, that was phonetic. I lose.
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
Back to the noobs (to Stack Exchange): For the longest time our new users where 101 reps and had at least some familiarity with SE, mostly through SO. But we've grown, 1 rep users that have absolutely no idea what SE is about are not that rare any more. And 1 reps can't use chat, can't use Meta and can't comment anywhere but their own posts, which makes mentoring them exceptionally hard.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:35 PM
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Q: Stack for building a searchable image service

Ben RobertsI've been building web services & sites with Django & PostgreSQL using pieces like Redis, Memcached, RabbitMQ, etc. for a few years now. I'm about to build a new kind of service (for me), the kind that I'm sure people have built before, but I'm not sure what the right technology stack ...

cloud-computing django search
This is the kind of thing that I worry about here
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
S.E. could consider a sort of quarantine (sorry, "mentoring") period for questions by very low rep users, where the UI has a local chat options for that question only. The thought moving those questions "aside" crossed my mind (to stop the flood of "nearly every question on the front page is closed" remarks), but I see no way to do that without missing viewer traffic. That way the question probably wouldn't garner any answers, and it's still a loss. Hard problem.
 
user55340
@YannisRizos What percent of < 50 rep users visit again after asking the initial question? I often see things like "asked 4 hours ago, last seen 3 hours ago closed 2 hours ago" - and while "hours" isn't the best example here, I see things indicating they only showed up to ask and never checked back to check the answers.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
^^^ This guy got community closed and downvoted, no explanation...
then he got angry, posted some bitter comments that got deleted... and then he self deleted his two REALLY AWESOME answers
he used to be an IP lawyer for crying out loud
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
I misread the comments. One was helpful, the others were what you describe ^^^
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
what a wealth of knowledge such a person can bring to licensing questions
now he despises this site because NOBODY bothered explaining anything to him
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
4:38 PM
@MichaelT No idea.
@MadKeithV I suggested a sandbox mode once. [status-declined]
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
probably the only person who could actually type IAAL
 
user55340
Please pardon my prejudice here, but I've never seen a question from a C?O that is answerable on SE.
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
I dated a lawyer for a long time - you never get straight answers out of the good ones ;-)
 
user55340
@MadKeithV "Do you love me?" -- "Am I under oath?"
 
MadKeithV
MadKeithV
@MichaelT "I am not at liberty to respond to that question at this time".
"Sign the NDA first"
@YannisRizos Shame, but I do understand - all the tools are more or less present on S.E., it's just tough to get the entire community to put in all the required effort all the time (and that includes the first-time askers that don't return).
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:47 PM
Then we can't build a community
we can't judge people either, everybody deserves the same respect
 
user55340
@maple_shaft There is a community, and it has a barrier to entry. Its not necessarily a bad thing - if anything it is a necessary thing. The challenge is trying to get people to spend the effort to get past that barrier to entry.
 
user55340
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Q: Online dictionary web application

LinNa MorinaI want to start to develop my first web application. It will be something like urbandictionary. I don't know where to start, so please answer my questions. Do I need to create my own cms? Can I develop this web application using python in server side? Can you recommend any book or tutorial abo...

python
 
user55340
@LinNaMorina, I think perhaps you will get better answers if you make the question more detailed (explain your goals, what you want to learn, etc.), as well as more targeted. Focus on one specific question to start with. Do you want to use Python? Then ask "How can I get started on a Python web app?" Or "What are the best Python web technologies". Do you not know what language to use? Then ask "What language/platform is good to start learning web development?" Get the answer to one question, do some research on your own, then ask more questions. — dan1111 3 hours ago
 
user55340
@dan1111 Thank you so much , I really appreciate your advice. — LinNa Morina 3 hours ago
 
user55340
I have hope.
 
maple_shaft
maple_shaft
4:50 PM
Of course there is a barrier to entry, but in my opinion when you expect the new comers who stumble across it to meet you more than 10% of the way then you are asking too much of a committment from them before they understand what you are about
it is our responsibility to explain and advertise what we are
otherwise we will fast become a clique
@MichaelT I have hope too
but we can do better
 
user55340
We (the non employees) only can interact with a person after they have posted a question, and only on that question. It is also necessary to interact with a person before they have posted a question - hopefully to get them to understand what SE is about. If they just click "Ok" on a hypothetical page without reading it...
 
user55340
There are only so many times that one can post on a question after it has been asked asking if it can be narrowed down, or asked in a way that isn't polling to have the person not respond... or for that matter check back.
 
user55340
5:07 PM
(Aside - did the max number of characters in a comment go up in the recent past?)
 
user55340
6:26 PM
@MichaelT: That article should be required reading for anyone who complains about their overly-subjective/chatty question being closed. — Robert Harvey 6 mins ago
 
user55340
I'm still chuckling...
 
user55340
6:38 PM
Hm. A poke about google shows that Jeff was thinking about and aware of (huge understatement) Clay back in '08 on Podcast #23
 
user55340
> Atwood: Maybe. But the cool thing about this is this is not just me, because that would be boring. It is actually me and Clay Shirky. You know, Clay Shirky is one of my heroes.
 
user55340
> Spolsky: Oh...
 
user55340
> Atwood: Yeah I know, it's awesome. So we get to talk about like building communities online and I get to talk about StackOverflow, you know, and all the lessons we've learned and, get to present with Clay. Obviously he's an expert so.
 
user55340
I wonder how (I'm sure it has) this has impacted Jeff's thoughts on discussion platforms.
 
Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
8:10 PM
Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #44 – This Should Have Been #43
Alex Miller on March 06, 2013

Welcome Back!  Our guest today is the one and only Robert Scoble – blogger and video maker extraordinaire.  He’s joined by the usual Stack Exchange crew for a packed hour of fun.

Robert is a geek who gets around and meets startups and tech innovators. He’s calling from Flipboard‘s headquarters in Palo Alto, CA. Joel wonders if Flipboard is just kind of an echo chamber, but it certainly is not! As with much of the internet, your experience with Flipboard depends on who and what you choose to Follow and Like on your social networks. …

 
user55340
9:02 PM
What is the intended use for stackoverflow? The site? The nemesis of recursion?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT it's only the nemesis of unoptomized tail calls
 
user55340
Well, there's...
 
user55340
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Q: How many are too many nested function calls?

marco-fisetQuoted from MSDN about StackOverflowException: The exception that is thrown when the execution stack overflows because it contains too many nested method calls. Too many is pretty vague here. How do I know when too many is really too many? Thousands of function calls? Millions? I assume tha...

.net exceptions recursion stackoverflow
 
user55340
and there's
 
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Q: How to advocate Stack Overflow at work

GordonI am thinking of doing a short presentation at work about using Stack Overflow as a resource for your day job. What is the experience doing this? Would you deem it a valid resource to tell you colleagues about or is it similar to telling them about Google as a resource? Is there a better ...

stackoverflow
 
user55340
9:05 PM
Stackoverflow means something different in each context.
 
user55340
9:25 PM
pi day is coming up soon... but I'm debating becoming a tauist.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
How to advocate Stack Overflow at work: Use only C# and ban all loops in the coding standards.
 
 
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user20683
10:48 PM
Lua has been successfully compiled from source
 
user20683
feels like a real programmer
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@WorldEngineer don't get attached, that feeling will be the minimal set of your time for the rest of your life.
Instead try feeling like a real office drone. Practice these phrases: "Good morning Bob!", "How was the weekend Bob?"
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa I've done 6.5 years at a major retailer
 
user55340
Watch Office Space.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
Over and over again
 

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