English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

What do you all think of bikini waxes? Are naked bushes sexy?

@tchrist Hilarious!

@KitFox It's child porn. So if you like that, sure.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So if they are pressuring small business with silly rules, that's bad.

If the government itself uses French in prominent places, that's fine.

an order from a language inspector to stop including one page of English-language information in its monthly bulletin to ratepayers

Tolerance is key.

If you wish to hold yourself to certain standards, fine. But pushing them on others, no.

Only if you have very good reasons.

2:03 AM

@Cerberus Um, it's hardly child porn. MAYBE neotenic, but not child porn. Big difference.

Wal-Mart, Best Buy (which operates under its own name in Canada and which owns a separate electronics chain here called Future Shop, even in Quebec), Guess, Costco Wholesale and the Gap, which listed its Old Navy operation as a separate plaintiff.

Ah, mais voyez ce monsieur-la qui est entré!

I just figured some guys might like looking at vulvas instead of hair. I didn't think that was pedophilic.

You have to rename your fucking company in Québec!

Son nom sonne vraiment Français.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh, phew.

2:04 AM

@Cerberus 4lkg,.cs0dkf;

That's why it's Petro Canada.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I may be the last person on Earth who hasn't seen that video.

> Martin Bergeron, a spokesman for the language agency, acknowledged on Thursday that it had until now “tolerated” signs containing nothing but trademarked names in languages other than French.

@chatkillah My husband hasn't.

@tchrist I don't care about big corporations tbh.

2:05 AM

@KitFox okay, good.

@chatkillah It's not the worst video ever. It's somewhat unremarkable, really.

puts shirt back on

It’s idiotic. Can you imagine making a company name illegal?

I'm done mudding. Who wants to get drunk with me?

@KitFox It's not...but I think the majority will prefer a strip of hair or something?

2:05 AM

@Cerberus shrugs Dunno. That's why I'm asking.

@chatkillah Ohh you're pure! Don't watch it!!

Hehe.

There's nothing interesting or special about it anyway.

Why did Kit have her shirt off?

Just a random Korean music video.

@chatkillah Well, why not?

2:06 AM

@tchrist I find the whole Bill 101 thing to be stupid.

shrugs

Time to go...

the National Assembly (under a Quebec Liberal government) made use of the notwithstanding clause of the Canadian constitution and amended the Charter by allowing English provided it the letters are no larger than half the size of the French.

@chatkillah The real question is "Why do you have your shirt on?"

But actually because I was mudding.

@KitFox Yeah...from what I hear, that is what most prefer. But they might not be representative.

2:07 AM

@KitFox oh, I had read that as muddling. :\

@KitFox It's pretty cold.

I could help with that.

Hehe.

lowers eyelids oh yeah?

Don't believe me?

touches collarbone

2:09 AM

grins ferally

Getting warmer already.

I'm back. What a good time to return.

The unrest reached a twisted climax in a shooting at the PQ election victory party in September that left one person dead. A man arrested at the scene declared that anglophones were waking up as he was led away.

@tchrist Well, that was one lone nutcase.

coughs I should check on the boys.

2:11 AM

Pastagate. What the fuck are you supposed to call pasta in French?

pâtes

@tchrist yikes. Also, that totally looks 'shopped.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I thought that meant Easter.

giggles

@KitFox Pâques

sighs I know.

2:12 AM

I know :)

pas de deux on the left hand side.

My little son is having a sleepover in his brother's room tonight. Very exciting.

Ohhh!

@chatkillah I will not speak French in the chat room et ni anywhere else non plus.

is nonplussed

2:14 AM

@KitFox 中文呢？

How do you say lasagne in French? Spaghetti? Penne? Ravioli?

Have fun, stupid kebeckers.

I bet we have more snow than they do right now.

How do you say pizza in French?

@tchrist Some of those words are just considered French words.

Stouffer's.

2:15 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Cheaters.

@tchrist Well, it's true though. Just like lasagna or lasagne are English words.

Here's an example: The word "stop" is a French word (in Quebec). But if a sign has "Arrête/Stop" then "stop" must be interpreted as an English word (on that sign).

Huh?

So a sign that says "Stop/Arrête" would be illegal.

But a sign that says "Stop" would not.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Y no hablo chinois neither.

@KitFox Too bad. I really really need practice. It's been since August that I last spoke Chinese. It's all evaporating.

2:19 AM

I can't type well enough. Let me try...

@tchrist Huh? Why lasagna?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What happened to Chinese class?

And didn't your wife speak Chinese too?

@Cerberus Because it is one of those filthy Italian words designed to water down the glory of the French language.

好久没说中文。都忘了。

Why not lasagne, I mean?

@Cerberus I stopped going last semester because the other student in my class went to China. She's back now but we haven't reconnected.

@Cerberus My wife was born here. She knows some Shanghainese, which is not mutually intelligible with Mandarin.

2:22 AM

有十五年没说。

@KitFox That's a long time

是啊

我六个月没说。

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh, she moves to Canada at an early age.

我不计射门子什么拼音。

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇一二三四五六。。。啊！six months.

But drop the ge there.

Month is its own measure.

Or I think so.

2:26 AM

@KitFox No， I think if you leave out the ge then you're saying "june" not "six months"

Oh. Right.

@Cerberus who moves?

Anyway, now it's time for me to go for real

*moved

Bye!

I hate how s and d are adjacent.

再见

再见在建？

Ach. I had it right the first time.

2:27 AM

zaijian, @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇

So what's sexy?

Beards.

english.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/21868

Hairy chests, legs, arms.

Fucking vandals.

english.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/21867

2:33 AM

Indeed.

You'd like my husband then. He's very hairy.

Shit. I was supposed to write something for the Nose tonight and I spaced it.

the Nose?

Will you each contribute a sentence for me to use in my example?

6 mins ago, by chatkillah

Hairy chests, legs, arms.

@KitFox I have lots of sentences; you’re welcome to borrow this one, for example.

2:38 AM

@chatkillah The Magnificent Nose. Neil Fein is a mod on Writers and he is the editor-in-chief. I write stuff for them occasionally.

@chatkillah That's more of a fragment. I might could use it though.

@tchrist Mmkay. If that's what you want.

I don’t understand what you are requesting.

Sorry.

Just a sentence. That one is fine.

@tchrist It is to be an example of a method of expanding text.

Example for what, of what?

hmms

l i k e t h i s ?

I called it prose origami, because people like it when things are named, and also because you keep adding sentences until the edges meet.

2:41 AM

s/\$(\w+)/expand_text($1)/ge

@chatkillah No, silly.

My son needs to stop coughing though. It's very distracting.

Poor thing.

I’m sorry, but I do not understand how that would work. I must need to go to bed.

He'll snooze in a little while. I gave him some codeine.

@tchrist Night!

Does that make him sleep? Opiates interfere with my sleep. But I’m off to bed, no opiates for me.

It should stop him coughing.

I am also off to bed. Good night!

2:47 AM

Good night, @Kit and @tchrist

3:05 AM

> A $368.2 million verdict against Apple has been upheld in the Eastern District of Texas, putting patent holding company VirnetX in a position to collect both royalties and damages from Apple if it continues to use its VPN and FaceTime technologies.

Hilarious. One troll biting the other.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/…

3:22 AM

@Cerberus That is hilarious.

3:34 AM

Yeah.

It's terrible, of course. But hilarious.

What do you think of this record guy?

4:01 AM

That terrible? @Cerb

@chatkillah Cute!

@Cerberus thanks! Does he look friendly?

Wow, I haven't heard Prince's "Gett Off" since before I understood what "23 positions in a one-night stand" meant.

Q: What are some interesting phrases which suggest that you are extremely busy?

Very friendly.

Haha.

aedia λ

5:09 AM

I keep missing y'all. Anyhow, @Kit, be assured I have been getting drunk and working on my house with you in spirit.

I'm almost done assembling the hall runner though. Then to clean the kitchen and to bed.

Johan Larsson

5:58 AM

@chatkillah Maybe make the mouth bigger/fatter somehow I feel the size of the eyes and the mouth is not perfectly balanced. Still very nice.

MετάEd

6:32 AM

> When you are sure of it, then post your answer. – KitFox♦ 3 hours ago

Matt Эллен

9:13 AM

Not constructive:

-1

If I want to say I’m extremely busy, I have no time, since I have my exams next month. What are some interesting replacements for the bold text, both colloquial and written? e.g. I am busy as a bee

phrases

user19161

10:21 AM

@chatkillah 23 is my favourite number, QED.

user19161

Wow, this has become the single room with every possible discussion, amazing.

Matt Эллен

Some time ago.

Jan 17 at 10:34, by RegDwighт

room topic changed to English Language & Usage: The single room with every possible discussion (no tags)

11:35 AM

@MattЭллен Agreed (although that's no reason for it not to look pretty, which is why I edited it).

12:55 PM

Wake up!

John Cusack interviews law professor Jonathan Turley about Obama Administration’s war on the Constitution

Wake up indeed.

mumble

Ok, I’m up. Now what?

Could somebody help provide an argument for reopening Mtich's TV question, preferably one I could stand a chance of buying into? My anti-TV and anti-list-question prejudice is blocking me.

Tough call. I suppose if you asked the director/screenwriter, there is exactly one clear and objectively correct answer.

Problem is, to get them on ELU.

@RegDwighт Wachet auf!

Wachteleier!

1:04 PM

@tchrist Not my problem. My task was just to wake you, not to schedule your day for you.

He could play Grand Theft Otto.

@RegDwighт Hey, I'm on record about this already.

You're law professor Jonathan Turley?

Jan 5 '12 at 3:08, by Robusto

It can't happen here. Well, until Senate Bill 1867 passed and was signed into law by the president.

So that's a yes.

Well prepare to be killed by Obama with his bare hands.

1:08 PM

He doesn't dirty his hands with that stuff. He has X-Box controllers that operate drones.

@RegDwighт That’s actually along the lines I was thinking myself; I don’t know how to get a proper answer without involving the filmmakers.

“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”—Thomas Jefferson

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man"—Thomas Jefferson

That guy was like having ideas or sumthin.

i no rite

latino rite?

1:15 PM

Eastern Rite?

Rite of past age.

A past age to India.

By I. M. Deforester.

Aug 18 '12 at 21:57, by RegDwight АΑA

@Robusto Do or do not. There is no pastry.

Did you know that Indian English is the dominant dialect of English in the world?

Do you know that nobody uses the word "dominant" the way you do?

1:17 PM

Are you knowing this since how long?

Subdominant, then?

I have will been knowed this much. But only tomorrow.

@tchrist Since I am reading it in the sidebar.

Subcontinent-dominant?

I'm looking for a ii-V-I turnaround shortly to appear.

@Robusto Letters to India are submissives.

I see no IV.

1:19 PM

IV-ii-V-I.

@tchrist Because you couldn't get in to the IV league.

Johann Paul the ii-V-I.

There's your turnaround.

Hopefully that was shortly enough.

iv /tpm/foo

vi /tpm/foo.txt

There is no such thing as a *.txt file.

1:20 PM

:set ff=dos

Sorry bout that.

Master and Norton Commander.

How much time do we have left on Nortonn's ban, btw?

Heat death.

Does it even matter?

1:22 PM

@Robusto Isn't it infinite yet?

@RegDwighт No: bans are toothless.

There are no infinite bans.

There are, I'm told, infinite bananas.

No. Just infinite pineapples.

Yes, we have no bananas.

The pineapples will always be with us.

1:22 PM

Pineapples are infidel, not infinite.

No, we have plenty of ananas.

Pineapples can't tell infinite from gerund.

That doesn’t sound kosher to me.

Kosha is Russian for "kitty".

I'm more interested in Russian for "titty".

1:23 PM

I know you are.

You only are because I know you are. I'm a sole psist.

Sole cist, more likely.

Side kick.

I kicked Side last year.

My wife didn't like it much.

I would like to kick Sade.

By Your Side or Paradise?

1:25 PM

Sidekick energy turns dreams into now.

Better than turning creams into cow.

Please do not kick the cow.

Cow chewek.

Do not goose the cow that laid the golden egg.

All eggs are golden.

1:27 PM

Even kine eggs.

eierlegende Wollmilchsau

@RegDwighт Clever of them to omit the wings. Makes ’em easier to catch that way.

The Germans are practical like that.

We’re almost unpoped. The German reign didn’t last very long.

1:32 PM

Again. Practical.

He only took on the job to sell some newspapers.

Well, at least the cardinals won’t have to figure out how to say interregnum in German.

Mission accomplished.

PBR?

@tchrist Damn, you beat me to it.

Who knew the Pope was a bowler?

1:36 PM

*blower

Reminds me how I saw The Big Lebowski the other day. For what must have been the thirty-seventh time.

i no rite

It just keeps getting better.

Still the best movie ever.

It's eerie.

In many ways, it's the perfect movie.

Just as Breaking Bad is the perfect TV series. BTW, did you ever go back and view that show from the beginning?

I am doing so now.

1:38 PM

How far are you?

They only show like one or two episodes a week though.

I've been rewatching Season V. So good.

@Robusto watched the penultimate episode of Season I. Have the last one and S2E1 recorded and waiting.

Cool.

@Robusto that was the best season ever. As in, of anything. In all of TV history.

1:40 PM

What, you saw V already?

No.

But I read a lot.

Or was it the fourth?

I think they would have said the fourth.

See, it's hard to keep count when you don't start with one.

Tru dat.

@Robusto then that's what I mean. The one with Lilly of the Valley.

Anyhoo. It's only one or two episodes a week, but with the first season only having 7 in total that's more than I could have asked for.

Skylar looks so svelte.

1:42 PM

Each season builds on the last, and you need the knowledge of what's gone before to appreciate it. But all that is back story, giving the writers the space to expand the drama in new but continuous ways. Kind of like the way Greek drama draws on the previous mythology and illuminates key issues, choices, and strokes of fate.

The audience knows all that previous mythology, so the writers don't have to spend a lot of time on exposition. They can get right into it.

Yeah there's almost too much happening in season one. As compared to season four anyway.

Four was pure character development.

@RegDwighт Is that a girl?

Nothing happened, and yet so much happened.

@tchrist it's a female character, Walter's wife.

I always thought Skyler (or Schuyler) was a guy’s name.

Guess not.

I think I only know two Skylars, and both are women.

1:48 PM

It’s like Tyler. Or Taylor.

You don’t know what it is till you get there.

One is the one from BB, and the other was an actress I think. Or a porn star.

Oh, I bet that's it. It sounds like a porn name.

I think I only know male Tylers and female Taylors.

Tyler Durden. Taylor Swift.

That's about it, actually.

Maybe it splits that way. Some are less predictable.

Morgan.

Watched the Fight Club the other day, too. Another excellent movie but this time I started noticing minuscule flaws here and there.

1:50 PM

I hate rewatching movies I liked and finding flaws.

Morgans are all female porn stars except for that black God guy who explains everything.

@RegDwighт Those are capital offences.

@RegDwighт Martin Freeman.

@RegDwighт A great movie, but not a perfect one.

@Robusto It was perfect for that one age and time and life situation. This time I found myself thinking how many things I no longer felt like relating to because my personal situation has changed so much.

1:53 PM

Sixth Sense. Crying Game. You can only watch them once.

Mitch

@Cerberus I don't consider myself a Downtonion, but I visit there quite often.

But anyway, that was not the flaws. The flaws was really technical. Like continuity stuff. Or things like, where they explain how he adds in the 25th frame at the end of a reel, except he does it in the middle of a song, which can't be at the end of a reel. That's not how reels work. Stuff like that.

Never noticed it before.

I've watched American Beauty probably 7 or 8 times.

@tchrist not entirely accurate. I know exactly what you mean, but Sixth Sense is precisely not one of such movies. It's constructed such that you (well, I) want and absolutely have to revisit it again with the new knowledge. To see how well it really fits together (or whether).

Plus in Sixth Sense they have an additional layer like stuff is red whenever there's a dead person present in the shot. Bricks, or doors, or pullovers, anything, something.

And it's fun to watch again with that knowledge.

Yes, maybe; after all, there are books that cannot be fully appreciated with just a single read.

1:58 PM

@Robusto Same here.

@RegDwighт That stuff can be chalked up to the unreliable narrator. It doesn't bother me about the film.

Crap, India calls.

And I gotta commute. Laters.

Mitch

@RegDwighт like 'Memento'