@SimonGill never gave a single thought about dnd-based MMO, so dunno if I could meaningfully discuss it further.

@jeormattan yes it's... odd. Like how do you behave when a player tells you she doesn't want to hear about you anymore but your character needs to get in touch with hers for plot reasons?

(no it's not a real question for you guys)

er, that thing is system-agnostic

it even happens in LARP

Right! LARPs!

I should ask larp players not RPG players

good luck.

@Zachiel LARPs are still RPGs. Just a little different. And usually more drunken.

@Zachiel In answer to your question - if there is a significant rift between players, the characters either find a way around talking to each other or go via a GM and get it over with as fast as possible.

in my experience, either the player in question is able to separate character attitude and personal attitude, in which case the issue is nonexistent, or not, in which case real-life techniques apply.

essentially, what Simon said.

I think she's able to do that but I don't want her to have any reason to suspect I could try to get in touch via her PG by metagaming just to play with her (this is not true but I fear she could suspect it)

@Zachiel That sounds messy...

But mostly I wish I could bring things back to when we were having fun

whenever I try to tell her I don't want to ruin our relationship she says she don't care and I must be stupid if I don't understand she can't care less

she's gonna call the police and tell them I'm a stalker if I message her again

and she's gonna do I don't know what if I talk to anyone about the content of our discussions

@Zachiel ew, that's gross. I would avoid the interaction at all if I were you.

@JeorMattan yeah..... avoidance is best. Sounds like a misunderstanding somewhere along the line has gotten compounded into a big mess.

she's the best at that game and she managed to put herself in a central role for the in-game politics. I'm a victim of the sunken costs

I think I can tell you what happened before that discussion

if you want to hear the story

We don't really need the details.

Remember, this is public and searchable on Google.

Do you think she's gonna search google for me?

No idea. But the possibility of search itself is grounds for caution.

She probably won't... but somebody else in the future could.

Oh don't worry for me. I'm not gonna say anything offensive, detrimental or private. However, there's no point in telling a story if nobody's curious about it ;)

HEY somebody just beat me creating the lot5r tag!

That's NOT FAIR!

There's already an l5r tag...

l5r it is?

Yeah. There's also an l5r-4e tag.

I'm very surprised Carolina got given an old version of the books. (And a little congused, one sentence reads like she has the D20 Rokugan version)

The new version is soooo shiny, after all.

Hahahahahaha ObliviousSage is checking the grammar of every new post she makes in real time.

@brian hello

That should be enough rep for @CarolinaLoza to be able to type something now :)

@SimonGill Next thing happening is gonna be BESW stating my English is better than hers. That would be hilarious. :p

Heya folks

@Lord_Gareth Yo

Made it!

Thanks @zac

Yeah!

Thanks @sim

@SimonGill

@Zachiel

besw?

it's ok if they do Zach, my English is very lacking, I've never had any formal education ;)

BESW said I have a good sentence building for being an Italian

@CarolinaLoza that would be @BESW

ah!

@carol I like mocking you XD

As your superior I allow you to do so

PRRRRRRRP

So tell me the future simon, what's happened into the future of rokugan?

@Carolinaloza and welcome to SE

@Zachiel Thanks!

See ya later guys

@CarolinaLoza That depends on where in the timeline you are... Who's the emperor according to your history?

@CarolinaLoza lol. Never heard that one - I like it

Oh it's Hentai XXIX

so it's two years after the scorpion coup

Oh dear.... you have the Soesbee era to go.

@LitheOhm not sure what you're referring to

@SimonGill you no like soesebee?

Tell me, what are your feelings on the eternal Pirate vs. Ninja debate?

@CarolinaLoza Her additions to the canon were interesting... but I came in much later during Rich Wulf's tenure as head writer.

@SimonGill Pirates get wenches... but I'm a girl

honestly i just like her writting style.. thought, as you've noticed she can be a bit scattered when it comes to explaining the more mechanical aspects

@CarolinaLoza Does that mean you want to be got by a Pirate?

I'm still not sure what you mean

i've seen precious little about the mantis clan... but i'm not positive this is what you mean

@CarolinaLoza Sorry, bad innuendo. I should probably remove that.

@SimonGill you were just like an airplane

@CarolinaLoza Heh, yeah, it's especially bad since I consider myself a dyed-in-the-silk Mantis player :P Anyway. Not important.

More important is what's coming up next. Hantei the 39th isn't what people hope he is.

The land is about to enter dark and terrible times - and there are very few people who can stop it.

Legends are spreading about a small old man, travelling the lands teaching the ways of enlightment. Of mastery of the rings. It is a lesson sorely needed when the emperors men have become callous and grasping.

He did. Doesn't stop people telling stories about him travelling the land now :)

oooh so was the emperor tainted? oh an more importantly i thought the emperor always married crane, da fuq did he marry a scorpion widow?

It is a dark time after all. Time to look after one's family.

Have you seen Kachiko's art?

... @SimonGill does that mean you're logging off?

nah I try not to look at the pictures

@CarolinaLoza Not going anywhere. It's a dark time in Rokugan :P

ah well yes. but still, was it a typo that he married a scorpion widow instead of a crane wife?

Nope. There's a very good reason he married that woman instead of a Doji.

oooh ok :D

it's fine, different yes from the second one

i like scouring museums and such for artifacts, gives me a better understanding of how weapons and such actually work

Anyway. The shadow's are moving. The Crab are huddled on their wall looking out to the Shadowlands and watching evil stir in the distance.

mm oh right, what about the nothingness?

we never had any of THAT in my campaign

*the one i played

an news on that?

Ah, that comes later.

It's after the defeat of Hantei XXIX.

oooh

:D

Ah, found the very good reason - Kachiko was a very manipulative woman - and the Emperor was 14. I think that says everything about her getting to Empress really ;)

aha! ok a few more things cleared up, i THOUGH he was a kid but then when they said he married a widow i figured he was in his twenties, that's good :D

She did a lot with the kind of access she had, slowly poisoning the Hantei in revenge for her exiled clan.

i can has my old non-story-following plot back

What was your old plot?

after spending time at the wall (time in which the hantei marries his scorpion bride) they get sent back to court

i have them do some politicking

So is all that before the Scorpion Clan Coup?

in the "during/right after" bit

have it start there, they'll spend a couple of years at the wall training

Fair enough.

@CarolinaLoza Training? Or dying? :P

@SimonGill i'll let them trian, and then maybe die, we'll see

shadow's going to try to attack from the north and the south contemporarily

@CarolinaLoza The Kaiu Wall is an unforgiving place.

i know.. but there's the kaiu wall and then there's the kaiu wall

For a long way along the shadowlands border ;)

yup, but in anycase i'm pulling my deus ex machina and there will be suspiciously few attacks on the wall while they're there

i'm wondering how i can throw the ratlings in.. or if I should just stick to the naga

anyway, the lion and the crane of course don't believe the crab and the pheonix who are saying wierd things are going on, much less in the north

@CarolinaLoza Ratlings are easy. There are plenty around the wall. I would have thought Naga were harder.

they just want to squabble over the usual

yeah but forging a sort of alliance with the ratlings i think would be harder on the character's side than convincing the naga to fight with them because the shadow is coming

@CarolinaLoza Of course - the Yogo curse is about to kick in in a biiiiig way.

never heard of it @SimonGill

@CarolinaLoza The Naga are more worried about the Lying Darkness than the Shadowlands. (Which can be a bit confusing).

@CarolinaLoza Yogo was cursed at the beginning of the Empire to betray the one he loved. The curse has followed to every one of his descendants.

@CarolinaLoza Really? It's quite an important part of the scorpion clan coup when Yogo Junzo opens the first Black Scrool.

I guess we're not to know exactly who it was yet?

i looked in the back, the word yogo is mentioned on 3 pages in the gm's book

Perhaps... you might even have the 1st Ed book rather than 2nd.

no it says second on the cover

Probably in the players guide then.

I'll check later cause i don't have the player's book on me

What do you guys know about obsidianportal.com?

I've been looking at a few others however they all seem to be d20 orientes

@CarolinaLoza It's called Obsidian Portal :P

So not much really.

@SimonGill what's the name got to do with anything?

o.o

Nothing. I was joking that all I know is what it's called.

oh xD gotcha :D

well I saw masterplan

and another one for faerun but they're both d&d oriented and i would imagine d20 specific

@CarolinaLoza Yeah, no help for you.

gotcha, i shan't bother with them then

You could do it in one of the rooms here if you wanted. We have a dice roller.

5d10

cool

@DiceService roll

that didn't work

xD

I met one of the heads of Obsidian Portal at Gencon '09, Obsidian Portal is sort of a player/DM collaboration site for campaign materials.

It was pretty barebones and I haven't looked at it since then.

Heh, all you do is type the number of dice (up to 9), d, then the dice type on a line by itself.

@CarolinaLoza just xdy

2d10

cool

aslo xdy zda works too.

2d10 3d4

1d2

9d10

awww it didn't flip a coin

9 is the max

It'll only do d6, d8, d10, d12 and d20

10d10

@CarolinaLoza we're lucky to have d4 and d10 at this point. we didn't until earlier last year

oh, and d4

yipes!

@waxeagle gotcha thanks

well so far obsidian portal is boding well

it has room for secret notes :D

Always useful.

Heya @BESW :)

@SimonGill Hey.

@CarolinaLoza Also hey! Welcome.

@BESW danke!

Hrm. I'm all for pedantry when appropriate, but it'd be nice if people actually checked to see if my answer addresses their concern before they brought it up.

@BESW What did they say?

We've got one guy who missed my "it's justified in-game to attack a downed PC if the NPC really hates him," and another who missed both my edit and the comment I based my edit on re: PCs being the only creatures in 4e with massive combat-healing resources.

It's minor, but this is the first post where I've tried to be really conscientious about editing comments into my answer and flagging as obsolete for eventual consolidation, and it's just accumulating more and more comments I have no response to except "please read again?"

@BESW Yeah... leave 'em for the flamethrower.

Yar. I know.

@ObliviousSage I missed that when I got smacked in the eyes by a Wall Of Introduction.

Every now and then I get concerned I'm not understandable, and start foaming exposition. "I should explain more! I'm not clear enough! NEEDS MOAR WURDS!"

@BESW And then a mod will swing by with the flamethrower and bring you back down from Godzilla size wall writer :P

So I come here to vent instead of tripling the word-count on my already treatise-length answers.

@SimonGill yeah, mods don't need the extra work if I can help it.

It's a good plan :)

argghhhh, computers

@SimonGill The Fairy Nuff nods her head vigorously in broad and sweeping agreement.

At least I got Windows Update working today after spending forever chasing my tail. And find the exact right version of Npgsql so my app would work on the cloud server.

@BESW The Fairy Nuff knows the score.

@SimonGill I'm sorry, but Npgsql sounds like one of the voiceless, mindless, swaying dancers who perform to distract the Demon-Sultan Azathoth from the casual destruction of All That Is.

@BESW Close. It's a database driver layer.

And given it's behaviour earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if it was leading me along the Silver Path to take up a place mindlessly swaying between the toes of one of the priests of the Elder Gods.

or Cthulhu, whichever would best fit the current attribute ;) All your tuples are belong to R'lyeh

@LitheOhm var story = Fluently.Corrupt(SimonGill).With(_dreadBookOfRleyh).In(CentralHill["RingOfStones"‌​]).For(WorldDomination);

@SimonGill hehehe. I've got to practice more.

lol

I wouldn't expect you to recognise C# :P

lol. Nah, but in time. This year I'm going to learn Spanish, might be enough language-orientation for me.