12:00 AM
@DavidCarlisle Enlightened requires one to be fast in answering. ;-)

OK. "Got to go"... It's already past midnight here. Take care everyone! Thanks for the info and congrats for the work @PauloCereda :)

@ricmarques Good night, buddy! :)

@PauloCereda Thanks! :) Bye (out!)

12:47 AM
@MarcoDaniel I would not link to Google groups, because it’s broken by design, but to the archive of the mailing list: ctan-ann, in this case to mail-archive.com/ctan-ann@dante.de/msg05271.html (RSS-feed included).

1:42 AM
because why not?

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2:47 AM
From the reflection I can see that the satellites are not charging themselves. So it's probably a Cylon spy.

2 hours later…
4:42 AM
@DavidCarlisle Thanks, David. The posted solution works for me. I'll try your version too.

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7:59 AM
This looks like a non-answer to me but OP accepted it. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/86838/…
Well, OP just edited and posted code and figure.

9:02 AM
@FaheemMitha No. :(

9:13 AM
@Gnintendo Is that Kim Jong-un or PSY? :)

9:33 AM
@PauloCereda I figured as much. Now that would be a challenging TikZ question.

@FaheemMitha @percusse has ported a few drawings of mine to pure TikZ. :)

9:46 AM
I have a short question. I've got a program variable name enclosed in \texttt, making it overflow the page. Is there a way to suggest linebreaks to latex, such as \- suggests hyphenation?

@HenningKlevjer try using url package, which contains algorithms for breaking a url among lines at strategic points, and perhaps it can be used with variables too
url{my_long_named_variable}

@JLDiaz good idea, thanks.
If I use hyperref and url, will these variable name-urls be clickable as valid urls?

@HenningKlevjer not sure, but you can prevent it if that is the case, because url package allows you to define url-like commands

@JLDiaz All right, I'll have a look. Thanks again!

:7255535 If you want to do it manually, \linebreak[0] is an option. For example: \fbox{\parbox{1.5cm}{
\texttt{this\linebreak[0]is\linebreak[0]a\linebreak[0]very\linebreak[0]long\linebreak[0]name}
}}

9:56 AM
Yeah, but it will linebreak anyway, won't it?
Or only if it overflows?

@HenningKlevjer no, the [0] option makes it a weak suggestion
if you try the above example you can see it yourself

@JLDiaz ah, perfect! I'll go with that! However ugly ;)
or \def\sb{\linebreak[0]}
Thanks again!

10:11 AM
Hello guys

Hi!
@HenningKlevjer Please come back! That chicken looks so cool in the sleigh! ;-)

@StephanLehmke LOL
@ℝaphink Hi! :)

hi @PauloCereda

10:28 AM
Hello! @DavidCarlisle you wanna tell me that I can mess up any improperly-nested-html-tag-made-webpage by putting the RTL utf8 code in some text?

@HenningKlevjer hyperref makes all
\url{} clickable by default, but I expect it can be suppressed.
Maybe selectively, I dunno.

@HenningKlevjer the two packages like each other ;)

@tohecz No I want to tell you that typically (although as seen on the right not always) browsers are much better at handling bidi text than TeX:-) Well not necessarily actually, arguably that is the correct display if you think of "14h ago" as being added at the end of the comment paragraph rather than as a following separate paragraph

@DavidCarlisle yes, as seen on the right, there's some HTML tag missing in the code ;)

@FaheemMitha \DeclareUrlCommand{\variable}{\urlstyle{tt}} and then \variable{foo_bar} ?

10:32 AM
@DavidCarlisle but wouldn't enclosing the post text in the <span> tag be sufficient?

@tohecz inline tags don't (normally) form bidi boundaries, you need paragraph level tags for that. aaa bbb ccc and aaa <<span>bbb</span> ccc should render in the same order the spab doesn't make it three bidi contexts (a p would)
@tohecz no

ok, didn't know
soon, we and with webpages containing more LTR chars than anything else, to prevent Davids Carlisles from doing nasty things.

@tohecz Otherwise every time you were writing a bit of arabic and used <span> or <tt> or something to change the font the word would ping over to the other side of the page
@tohecz Probably more people know how to do that because of xkcd than because of me, so how come I get the blame?

@DavidCarlisle but an Arabic webpage code could simply start by RTL just after the <body> couldn't they?

@tohecz But it's same thing some unicode characters (including most arabic ones) just automatically switch direction. I used a bidi override character which is essentially a zero width space but with a strong RTL property which also overrides the strong LTR property of the following latin characters, but you get essentially the same behaviour just using sensible characters from RTL scripts

10:38 AM
@DavidCarlisle it is always good to have someone to get all the blame, and you were .... democratically elected :p
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@tohecz Oh democracy? Can't argue with that.

Guys, don't forget the interview with Ulrike today. :)

@PauloCereda it's in 1 1/4 hours, right?

@tohecz I believe it's 1PM UTC (11AM my time)

@PauloCereda ok, and it seems to be 10:50 UTC just now

10:49 AM
@tohecz Oh. I always get lost with timezones.

@StephanLehmke ha, say when

so if it's on 13:00 UTC, it's in 2 hours

11:06 AM
avatar now rides the sleigh! who's next, santa claus?

@HenningKlevjer Yay! Go chicken go! Anybody got a duck as avatar? We could make a poulrty sledge race :-)
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@StephanLehmke I would find a duck avatar but my avatar gets changed every time I delete my email.

@StephanLehmke OMG YES.

@JLDiaz I thought hyperref would have an option of something.
To not make the url clickable.
@PauloCereda The interview is in this channel?

@FaheemMitha No, we have a special room for them: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1728/textalk-interviews :)

11:29 AM
@FaheemMitha You mean other than the option of putting a % in front of \usepackage{hyperref} ?

@DavidCarlisle Yes
@DavidCarlisle I seem to recall looking for something like that in the hyperref documentation, but not finding anything. So maybe it is not there.

user19161
@Gnintendo HAHAHAHAHAHA

@PauloCereda Thanks

@FaheemMitha The draft option should disable links. AFAICS it is equivalent with the option nolinks. Then there is a NoHyper environment which should disable links within.

@StephanLehmke Ah, so there is an option. Great, thanks. I suck at reading documentation.

11:44 AM
@FaheemMitha I always only read the sources ;-)

@StephanLehmke Heiko's too? :P

@StephanLehmke heh

@egreg Why not? I'm maybe not a top-level programmer, but I'm really good at reading sources ;-)
Also I had a couple of intimate hours with hyperref when making TeXPower ;-)

@StephanLehmke I once tried to read xii.tex. I got traumatized.

12:03 PM
@PauloCereda beers.tex is far less traumatic. ;-)

@egreg Indeed. :)

@PauloCereda Uh. I forgot that @JosephWright has a duck as avatar! We just need a more sledge-friendly version...

@PauloCereda ah but can you sing the result?

@StephanLehmke :)

12:13 PM
@DavidCarlisle here:

!!/eightball Is Psmith here?

@PauloCereda xii.tex was surely not programmed the usual way, but is the result of several iterative "compression steps". So trying to read it from start to end you're not really following its genesis. So better trace than read ;-)

@StephanLehmke ooh! :)

1:00 PM
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### TeXtalk - Interviews

Interviews for our community blog.

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4:10 PM
If the original question is not about tikz, but one of the answers uses tikz, should a tikz-pgf tag be added to the question?

in TeXtalk - Interviews, 1 min ago, by Ulrike Fischer
@PauloCereda: Yes ;-) I actually have a mostly finished update of chessfss written with expl3. There are quite a lot goodies in LaTeX3 (like e.g. the list handling) and the documentation is really good. One only has to get used to all the : and _ and the naming convention.

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I was wondering if a policy exists (and if so, what it is) for retagging questions once they have been answered. To illustrate what I mean, I recently answered Draw small cross at the center of the page. It is currently tagged as technical-drawing, perhaps the positioning tag would have been bet...

@JLDiaz In short: No.

@TorbjørnT. Thank you

4:54 PM
Can you believe it, they have a Wikipedia page dedicated to a number:
36 (thirty-six) is the natural number following 35 and preceding 37. In mathematics 36 is both the square of 6 and a triangular number, making it a square triangular number. It is the smallest square triangular number other than 1, and it is also the only triangular number other than 1 whose square root is also a triangular number. It is also a 13-gonal number. It is the smallest number n with exactly 8 solutions to the equation φ(x) = n. Being the smallest number with exactly 9 divisors, 36 is a highly composite number. Adding up some subsets of its divisors (e.g., 6, 12 ...

@Werner 36 is an odd choice: I'd expect three (what with it being the magic number)

WHAT THE DUCK...

__NOTOC__ 1729 is the natural number following 1728 and preceding 1730. 1729 is known as the Hardy–Ramanujan number after a famous anecdote of the British mathematician G. H. Hardy regarding a visit to the hospital to see the Indian mathematician Srinivasa Ramanujan. In Hardy's words: The two different ways are these: : 1729 = 13 + 123 = 93 + 103 The quotation is sometimes expressed using the term "positive cubes", since allowing negative perfect cubes (the cube of a negative integer) gives the smallest solution as 91 (which is a divisor of 1729): :91 = 63 + (−5)3 = 43 + 33 Of cours...

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6:06 PM
If I have a construct like \box23, can I find out if and what macro name it is assigned to?

6:41 PM
Rep is palindrome in basis 1000. :)
@StephanLehmke You don't, unless you find latex.log (or pdflatex.log) on your system, which tells you \@outputbox=\box23

7:03 PM
any miktex users recognise "pdflatex.exe: the GUI framework cannot be initialized; " ?

@DavidCarlisle I've seen it somewhere; maybe a TeXnicCenter problem

5

I don't know what I've done, but all of a sudden I am unable to compile any document which uses the geometry package. Minimal (non)-working example: \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{geometry} \begin{document} test \end{document} doesn't produce any output, and this is what I ...

ah do you want to post that or should I?

7:08 PM
thanks (good job I have your depth of windows experience to call on)

@DavidCarlisle: You're quite the sed wizz, right?

@Werner go on then I fear a regexp question coming

@DavidCarlisle My Windoze experience is next to zero. And I'm so happy about it! :)
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@egreg You don't fool me.
@Werner ?

@DavidCarlisle From the log it appears that the OP is using MiKTeX 2.9.

7:16 PM
oh wow where have I been? the CTAN package site updated O.O

@egreg is that bad (I have no idea of miktex numbers, not being a windows expert like yourself)

4

I am organising a lottery and Springer have kindly agreed to donate a copy of LaTeX and Friends. Joseph Wright has kindly agreed to act a an independent witness/judge and he knows the winning number. <LEGAL STUFF> The lottery closes when the judges announce the winner. The judges decision...

@PauloCereda ooh I'm sure I'll win
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@DavidCarlisle Sorry, I was sucked in somewhere else...

@DavidCarlisle C'mon David, add a valid entry. :)

7:29 PM
@DavidCarlisle: ...I'm trying to find a command-line driven way that I can extract something from one file and update it in another
I know I can use sed to find stuff in a file and replace it.

@PauloCereda Nah I'd only feel bad if I won the book and deprived some starving student of a freebie

@DavidCarlisle: But I'm not sure whether I can find something in a file, store it in a variable, and use that as the replacement contents for another file... all using sed.

@DavidCarlisle pleeease.

@Werner well you could use perl or for two files normally I'd do sed on first file to extract the replacement text and pipe it into a sed on the second to do the updates, depends a bit what kind of updates you need (and whether you need to do lots at one time)

@DavidCarlisle If sed can do it, I'll be interested in it... I'll give you my use case.
I create a large number of figures using LaTeX (mostly [pstricks](http://www.ctan.org/pkg/pstricks)), some of which show the progression of some modifications to an object. This progression adds/removed content from
the object, causing it's shape and size to change (from one image to the next). Including these images side-by-side causes them to shift horizontally/vertically since their bounding boxes are not similar.
If I can extract the bounding box from one file and insert it in another, that would be awesome.
So, for FileA.eps I have (say)
    Here is some text
BoundingBox: 123 456 789 012
HiresBoundingBox: 123.4567 456.7890 789.0123 012.3456
Here is some more text
and for FileB.eps I have (say)
    Here is some text
BoundingBox: 128 450 782 020
HiresBoundingBox: 128.4567 450.7890 782.0123 020.3456
Here is some more text

7:37 PM
@Werner Why do you need to use sed?

I want to extract the BoundingBox and HiresBoundingBox in FileB.eps and insert that in the correct spot in FileA.eps (say).

What's wrong with a regular scripting language, for example?

@FaheemMitha Since sed is the thing I've used for file editing from the command line before.
Sure, throw me something else if you can.
The main requirement is that it should function from the command line; I'm using it in batch form under Windows 7, so I'm running a script.bat file that does (or should include) this.
...yah, batch files. Super awesome.

@Werner Well, I'd use python, because that's what i know
Pretty trivial to do, I'd say. Just do a match in the first file, and just rewrite the second file in place. Something like that.
You could pass the filenames as command line args. If they have spaces, it gets more annoying


@StephanLehmke I'm agreeing with the "I don't think this should be closed" not the "I'm pissed off part." Vivi might not be approaching the issue in the most delicate manner, but the issue about what criteria we use to close questions is real.

@PauloCereda is that one of the standard arara rules?

11:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle Not yet. I could add it to the official rule set. :)

@PauloCereda Hi can you just give me some advice?

@IceBox 'ello! Me? I'm here for the ducks. :)
Fire away, buddy. :)

@PauloCereda Can i?

@AlanMunn It's only a bit demotivating that 100% expert-friendliness seems to be quite optional.

@IceBox Sure! :)

11:58 PM
@IceBox If he gives you the advice he gave me that involves the letters r m - r f and /, don't follow it.

@DavidCarlisle Hey!

@StephanLehmke I think there's a difference between "How do I do <something simple>?" and "Why does <something simple> not behave the way I expect?". The former might be ok to respond with a gentle RTFM, but the latter less so.

@DavidCarlisle: don't complain, you use Windows. :P

@PauloCereda I am at the starting of my career and currently workinbg as an android developer in a company but a bigger company is offerring me a Quality engineer job (Testing) with a larger package.So I am in a big confusion. What should i do?

@AlanMunn Maybe you could go back to the question for once and reread all the comments and try to pick the most unfriendly one.