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2:53 AM
ctan just updated there website?
 
3:13 AM
@azetina It seems so. It looks good.
 
 
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8:18 AM
@AlanMunn Giant duck FTW.
 
 
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9:53 AM
Hi. Short information for you. The CTAN team announced the relaunch of the CTAN Web site: groups.google.com/forum/?hl=de&fromgroups#!topic/… --Great job. Here you can jump to the new site: ctan.org
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10:17 AM
In answer tex.stackexchange.com/a/86674/12571 the author says that he cannot upload an image. I produced one, so I could edit the answer and add the image. However in order to get that image I had to fix some errors in the code.
Should I upload the image and fix the errors in the code? It seems a bit rough to alter someone's else code...
Should I upload the image and leave the errors? It does not seem right either...
 
@JLDiaz Does the modified version still show the issue?
 
No, the modified version compiles right. But it does not use the nicer syntax remember ... as
The thing is that the code in the answer should work, but it does not apparently due to some tikz bug. My version is a workaround
Apparently the aswerer has a version of tikz which does not have that problem
 
@JLDiaz The author now has enough rep to post an image - you could point that out to her/him. Are the changes big? If not, one option is to add an "appendix" - I sometimes do this. I add a horizontal line (---) and then something like "Added by Andrew Stacey some versions of TikZ have a bug with remember ...; if using such a version replace the line ... with ..."
 
@AndrewStacey That's a good option. The changes are minor
 
@JLDiaz The other thing that I do when doing this is to make sure I leave a comment explaining what I did and usually ending in something like "hope that's alright". It almost always is, the purpose being to say "I've edited your stuff, but it's still your stuff".
 
10:33 AM
@AndrewStacey Done. Thanks
 
11:08 AM
I just taught CHAOS how to pronounce TeX/LaTeX. :P
 
@PauloCereda Huh?
 
@JosephWright the TUG thingy. There was a field asking for suggestions, including teaching them how to pronounce TeX/LaTeX. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ah, right
 
@JosephWright Let's see if Aarthi will kill me for the lessons. :)
 
GTK
11:22 AM
wow, user mwibrow, who joined tex.SX two days ago, just posted, a very elegant answer to my nucleosome drawing TikZ question. Who IS that? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/85576/…
(note to self: read the last dozen or so comments on chat before posting)
 
@GTK One of the TikZ team :-)
 
GTK
@JLDiaz, thank you for posting the image and the fix.
@JosephWright: apparently so!
 
Goodmorning!
 
@unNaturhal 'ello!
 
11:45 AM
:D
Could someone tell me where I could find a reference with commands to draw ER diagrams in latex?
 
@unNaturhal Have you tried searching for "entity relationship diagrams" on the main site?
 
@StephanLehmke Yes, I found some examples
 
12:10 PM
Nothing special happens on 12/12/12.
 
@GarbageCollector Ya..
Hhhmmm.. how can install a new package in texlive?
 
@unNaturhal do you mean an official repository install (in which case tlmgr install zzzz) or do you mean a local file in which case just leave it in a directory on tex's input path.
@GarbageCollector you're too late, 12/12/1212 (or even better 12/12/12) were the interesting dates, nothing special about 12/12/2012.
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@DavidCarlisle I would install tikz-er2.sty, but I solved putting it into C:\texlive\2012\texmf-dist\tex\generic\oberdiek :)
 
@GarbageCollector no end of the world? that means I'll have to write the exam on Friday?!
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@tohecz Right.. me too ._.
 
12:25 PM
@unNaturhal if only it were something else than French :-/
 
@unNaturhal It's best not to put things into texmf-dist as that's under the control of the package manager, there is a separate texmf-local tree for local files. TeX itself doesn't care but texlive updates will preserve local files but assumes it has full control over texmf-dist
 
@tohecz Like a thesis for Database exam? :D
@DavidCarlisle So, where you think it's better to put that file? Could you give me the path?
 
@unNaturhal <texmf-local>/tex/latex/<package-name>/ where <texmf-local> should be somewhere in your User folder (depends on which system you are on)
 
@tohecz I have a texmf-local in the same directory where is ../2012/..
 
@unNaturhal then there
(I think that the location depends on the way how you install - alluser vs. oneuser)
 
12:32 PM
@tohecz So I have to create a directory with the same name of the package?
Ok I put it in C:\texlive\texmf-local\tex\latex\local and it works :) thanks!
 
@unNaturhal you can theoretically put it anywhere but it's better to follow the directory conventions
@unNaturhal you're welcome
 
@tohecz :)
What \scalebox{.87} means?
 
@unNaturhal The contents specified as second argument will be reduced at 87%
 
@egreg Second argument of what? :o
 
@unNaturhal \scalebox{.87}{contents}
 
12:43 PM
@egreg Aaaah! Maybe I have understood
Latex allow to use comments to hide lines without deleting them?
 
@unNaturhal yes, put % at the beginning of the line
 
@tohecz And for multi-line comments?
 
@unNaturhal Add % before each line
 
:7239210 more complicated, there are standard ways how to do it, my favourite low-level way is to put this in the preamble:

\long\def\COMMENT#1\ENDCOMMENT{\relax}

and this in the text:

\COMMENT
blabla
...
foo
bar
\ENDCOMMENT
 
@egreg Damn :P
@tohecz Too complex for me..
 
12:48 PM
@unNaturhal too complex to put one line in the preamble?
 
@tohecz I neither know which is the header...
 
@unNaturhal I meant "preamble", sorry. Preamble is the part of LaTeX file between \documentclass and \begin{document}
 
@unNaturhal With Aquamacs I can select the lines to comment and do Command-' and all lines are prepended with % (or the comment character and the space is removed if present). The same can be done on all varieties of Emacs. Probably other editors have similar features.
 
anyone know if Daleif is ever in here?
 
@jonalv Never seen him here.
 
12:50 PM
@tohecz Oh, nice :D I try if it works :)
@egreg I'm using texlive on windows.. maybe notepad++ or sublimetext could have a feature like this, but I have to find where..
 
btw, I have just recieved two downvotes on an answer, but the truth is that the answer seems to be wrong...
 
@tohecz why is it wrong?
 
@jonalv well, not really wrong, but there's a package incompatibility that I wasn't aware of.
 
@tohecz just quick sanity check, we are talking about: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/85815/…
 
12:54 PM
@jonalv yep
 
Well, your fix felt like it did the right thing. daleif went back to the memoir default one and that feels dangerous without knowing that float does not change something important i caption considering float changes a lot of behavior. Or do you not agree?
 
@jonalv I somehow agree with you. On the other hand, as soon as you don't use [H] (which you should not), you don't need \usepackage{float}, do you?
 
@jonalv Let the floats ...ehm... float. Otherwise see the \newfixedcaption and friends in the memoir manual to use captioning out of the floats.
 
true, (one reason I like [H] is because it's a short way to make a Figure non-floating, which as far as I know is needed when putting it inside a shaded area) maybe there is some nice trick for doing that?
 
@jonalv shaded area? what do you mean? I think you can do a lot of tricks with mdframed -- couldn't you, @Marco ?
 
12:59 PM
You don't need to embed your figures/tables into floats.
 
I have grey boxes in a book and I sometimes want figures inside the boxes
right now it was a short-hand way of fixing that
 
@jonalv What happens when you just use \includegraphics{....}?
 
since floats can't be over multiple pages the grey boxes can't be floats. (Although that would be the best)
@percusse I don't understand your question
 
@jonalv If you include a figure just using the \includegraphics but not a figure environment, what is the resulting problem?
same applies to the tabulars not being inside table environments.
 
instead of

\begin{figure}[H]
\includegraphics{file}
\caption{My Figure}
\end{figure}

You can use

\includegraphics{file}
\captionof{figure}{MyFigure}
@jonalv this for example ^^
 
1:03 PM
@tohecz Hi. Sorry I didn't follow the chat.
 
@percusse I would have had to fake the caption and figure numbering and that would be more work. I now got told about \newfixedcaption which might be what I need
 
@MarcoDaniel I think that @jonalv wants to shadow a float, I suppose your package does the job
and, Hi! :)
 
@jonalv Indeed that's how it is done in memoir since it doesn't like caption package. It has it's own arsenal of commands for that.
 
hm, I have never seen \captionof either. Does that work with memoir's subcaptions as well?
 
@tohecz memoir and caption don't get along too well.
 
1:05 PM
@jonalv I'm not sure and I doubt it.
 
fair enough :)
 
Actually, IMHO memoir is too much a world on its own. The things it does it does great, but try to need something that is not natively supported by this class...
 
@tohecz And they will add it for you :)
 
@percusse yes, all thousands of package functionalities...
 
@tohecz to each his own?
 
1:07 PM
@tohecz In combination with floats the package tcolorbox can be recommended too. mdframed detects the float environmen and prevents splitting.
 
@jonalv yes, of course. I just meant: To know LaTeX tweaks and to know memoir tweaks? Two very different things ;)
 
yea I have realized this hence I asked if it would work in memoir :)
 
@tohecz I also think it's too ambitious but you have to admit that they have a incredibly solid base for that. And only upper intermediate level people start to notice the missing parts.
We need @Brent.Longborough for this. Also I missed him :)
 
@percusse I don't argue, if anybody asked me what class is good for his thesis, I would suggest it.
 
just out of curiosity, @tohecz, what about for a 500 pages academic book?
 
1:18 PM
@jonalv I would say the same.
 
:)
 
I mean, I learnt how to do all the tricks with titlesec, fancyhdr, caption, float, ... with the basic classes, so I prefer to use these. But it's just that I don't want to learn everything again in a different concept.
 
1:36 PM
@jonalv scrbook from the KOMA-Script bundle is the canonical alternative. I think Memoir is a bit more US-centric and KOMA-Script is a bit more Europe-centric.
 
1:51 PM
I dunno why, today looks like I'm having a time discontinuity.
 
@PauloCereda Sounds like you need a Doctor
 
@AndrewStacey Who? :)
 
@jonalv [H] is always the wrong fix though, even when it works. LaTeX has a big machine for positioning floats subject to certain constraints, notably that they never go out of order and [H] just smashes a sledgehammer through the entire architecture. ('H' began life in one of my packages:-)
 
Tell me:
$H\to 0$\footnote{My footnote}.
or
$H\to 0$.\footnote{My footnote}
? (Remark: footnotes are numbered in that journal.)
 
@tohecz Depends what the number is. If they start at 0 then you're in trouble. If not, you're okay.
 
2:02 PM
@AndrewStacey it will probably be no. 2
 
@tohecz That's okay, then.
 
I'm seriously considering putting it at another (not so logical) place in the sentence, like after a word "and"
 
@tohecz Neither. If you really have to do it, use #2, but footnotes are best placed as far as possible from math formulas.
 
@tohecz Could it be a parenthetical remark?
 
@AndrewStacey yes, but there're plenty of these already
Sometimes you feel it's easy to say "Ok, let's just make it a short Note and submit", but even such short Note takes lots of time to write down.
 
2:33 PM
how does one cite a private communication?

@misc{per,
author = {Bar, Foo},
title = {Private communication},
year = {2012}
}

?
 
Quickie, is it still a requirement to have 8 char package names or we are in 21st century already?
 
@percusse I dunno, you cannot think out a good short name?
 
@tohecz I can but I don't see the point
Especially after looking at scrreprt, scrartcl, I feel it's the same along the lines of writing C:\Progra~ as a solution to the long folder names by M$.
 
\usepackage{honorificabilitudinitatibus}
 
\usepackage{makemyarticlepassthereviewswithflyingcolors}
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2:48 PM
@percusse <3
 
@percusse 21st C but please don't use spaces:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Acknowledged!
@PauloCereda Ore miner under attack....
 
@percusse ooh!
 
3:49 PM
@percusse To make a real world example, pgflibraryfixedpointarithmetic.code.tex
 
@egreg Yes, but you never include that manually, do you?
 
@AndrewStacey I hope not!
 
\usepackage{itsmythesisandIllcryifIwantto}
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@AndrewStacey Oh no! That song is starting to play inside my head! Make it stop please!
 
@PauloCereda Meant to ask: which iPad did you get in the end. I presume it's retina.
 
3:57 PM
You would cry too if it happened to you! pam pam pam pam pam
@AndrewStacey I got a 3rd gen iPad, the retina one. :) Fantastic piece of hardware.
 
@AndrewStacey \usepackage{koma-moderncvclassic} is the longest I've found.
 
@PauloCereda \begin{youwouldcrytooifithappenedtoyou}[Theorem} \(x^2 + y^2 = z^2\)\end{youwouldcrytooifithappenedtoyou} Examiner's note: This seems to be a result due to another mathematician. Thesis failed.
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@PauloCereda Just got a new one myself with Retina and I'm frankly amazed at how good the screen is.
 
@AndrewStacey LOL
@AndrewStacey I had no idea about the quality. I'm currently using it to read a lot of papers, and they look way better than if printed. :)
 
@egreg My longest is beamerthemeshadow (starts singing Carried away by a beamer theme shadow)
 
Do you guys answer TeX.SX questions from the iPad?
And include sample output images?
I had my own adventures trying to do so. meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2649/…
 
4:20 PM
@JLDiaz I can't even provide answers the normal way. :)
 
@JLDiaz I've yet to try it. Partly because I would aim to use TeX writer to do it and that doesn't support TikZ yet, and partly because when I'm on my iPad I don't really feel like answering questions.
 
@AndrewStacey I did it through tlhiv.org/ltxpreview but uploading the resulting image to TeX.SX was too much pain
Perhaps it could be automated in some way through Codea or Pythonista ;-)
 
@JLDiaz Certainly Codea can do http requests and it can load images from the Photo Library (though it has to be a two-step process due to the sandboxing) so so long as one could figure out the API it would be possible.
@JLDiaz Do you have Codea, by the way?
 
@AndrewStacey Yes. Congratulations for your great contributions there too!
I also have Pythonista, and I'm more inclined towards python than lua
but didn't make anything useful/cool/non-trivial with none of them
or should I say "with any of them"? My english sometimes is not as good as I would like
 
4:36 PM
@JLDiaz I hadn't done any lua programming before using Codea (not even with luatex, my few lua contributions here were done after I started with Codea). I've also done almost no python so would be on equal footing there, but somehow lua is less daunting than python for me! (I remember well your python version of hobby's algorithm.)
@JLDiaz As there are two, "with either of them" would be correct.
 
@AndrewStacey Ah, thanks
@AndrewStacey Well, I didn't know Lua either before Codea, and I managed to write a "hangman" game. I find Codea much more friendly to write games (2d physics is cool!), and Pythonista more useful to write "console-mode" scripts or automation hacks.
 
@JLDiaz Hangman's a popular choice! I wrote one too. (Are you on the Codea forums, by the way?) It is certainly aimed at the game market, but it's fun for other things too.
 
@AndrewStacey I read regularly the forums but did not contribute yet. My little spare time is devoted to TeX.SX :-)
 
4:54 PM
@JLDiaz I like to think that the Codea forums are as friendly as this place.
@JLDiaz On another tack, I'm guessing that your question about tikz behind text was motivated by a more complicated example. Would it be useful to have something embedded in the header that provided hooks for doing stuff with all the tikzmarks on the page?
 
@AndrewStacey My question was related to my answer to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/86442/… in which I first draw a table and then put a colored background. For that case I used transparency but was worried about how to solve it in a more general way
But Ulrike's comment to my question made me wonder if a general approach like the one you just suggested could be useful for more people
It also motivated a new question, but I didn't ask it because it is mostly academical and I have not real need for it (nor can envision any real world case in which it could be useful). The question is: would it be possible a macro like \putatbangroundofpage{6}{this stuff}
 
@JLDiaz For that question, with the supersized tikzmark you could simply shift the tikzpicture to the start of the \WS macro.
 
@AndrewStacey I was also wondering if eso-pic package could help there
 
@JLDiaz yes that just needs to put \ifnum\c@page=6 this stuff\fi in the header (on every page)
 
@JLDiaz Presumably you wouldn't want to constrain yourself to using that macro on page 6. It should be possible. Incidentally, do you know of the background package?
@DavidCarlisle Is there a standard way to add something to the header without disturbing what else is there? One problem with using the header to put stuff in is that other packages do the same so one could easily end up with a race condition.
 
5:07 PM
@AndrewStacey Didn't know about background package. It looks a good option.
 
@AndrewStacey well no not really, of course you can do the usual of ignoring all the published interfaces and adding your macro at some random place at the top of the output routine, but I couldn't possibly suggest that.... (even if that's what I'd do:-) Heiko has a per page hook I think,
 
5:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle That's what I was thinking: stick a tikzpicture behind every page.
 
@AndrewStacey or you could use picture mode.
 
@DavidCarlisle What's picture mode?
 
Nov 3 at 20:46, by David Carlisle
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{color}
\begin{document}
\setlength\unitlength{.2pt}
\begin{picture}(1000,1000)(600,-1000)
\color{yellow}
\qbezier(665,-317)(963,-650)(1121,-305)
\qbezier(665,-317)(939,-1150)(1331,-417)
\qbezier(1121,-305)(1110,-130)(1183,-135)
\qbezier(1183,-135)(1360,-120)(1415,-267)
\qbezier(1331,-417)(1376,-370)(1383,-355)
\qbezier(1187,-139) (1175,-100)(1163,-61)
\qbezier(1203,-139) (1175,-100)(1163,-61)
\qbezier(1213,-139) (1201,-100)(1189,-61)
\qbezier(1229,-139) (1201,-100)(1189,-61)
 
@AndrewStacey I was playing with background package. It is a nice one! I managed to use it to draw on remembered nodes, and thus is another answer to my question, which avoids the problems noted by Ulrike
I'll update my self-answer
 
5:34 PM
@PauloCereda Thanks, that is the way the internet should work... :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, that picture mode.
 
@AndrewStacey what else:-) home time, hope the fog's gone...
 
@PeterGrill :)
 
@DavidCarlisle You don't get freezing fog in Norway. That's one thing to say for it.
 
@DavidCarlisle No ducks today?
@AndrewStacey Freezing fog sounds like an ice wall to me. :)
 
5:41 PM
@PauloCereda The only duck around here is the stone one in our garden. Not completely sure it was stone before the temperature dropped.
 
@AndrewStacey Oh no! Poor duck.
 
@DavidCarlisle: Have you tested your answer to the following question:
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A: Displaying `\begin{verbatim}...\end{verbatim}` inside the environment verbatim

David CarlisleYou could use the verbatim package then define your own variant \newenvironment{myverbatim}% {\verbatim}% {\endverbatim} then you can use myverbatim if you want to have literal \end{verbatim} \begin{myverbatim} Bla, bla, \begin{verbatim}...\end{verbatim} Bla, bla,... \end{myverbatim}

 
@DavidCarlisle: one for you:
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Q: Why does the EMACS tab key jump to the middle of the line when editing a BibTeX file?

vy32When I edit a BibTeX file with EMACS, pressing the tab key takes me to the middle of the line, even when I am at the beginning of an entry. This is incredibly annoying. Any clue why it is happening?

I'd answer "because it's emacs." :)
I can't believe. I have some new cool features already baked for arara 4.0 yet I'm still unable to produce a manual for the 3.0 debut. :)
 
@Werner Where's the problem? It works. Did you load verbatim?
 
@egreg ...aahh, no. The missing piece - I need to learn how to read.
 
5:51 PM
@Werner Works for me too. I thought the problem would have been that \end{verbatim} was not on its own line, but works as advertised...
@Werner Oh no, you seem to be picking up my bad habits. :-)
 
@PeterGrill Yes, I forgot to read the introduction of @DavidCarlisle's answer - load verbatim. /facepalm
 
@DavidCarlisle Thank you! That would play nicely with background package. \ifnum\c@page=6\BgThispage\fi
 
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Q: Are there any insulting vegetable names?

Armen Ô¾Õ«Ö€Õ¸Ö‚Õ¶ÕµÕ¡Õ¶A vegetarian friend of mine posted a status on facebook: You are what you eat. That's why I don't eat cows, chickens or pigs. My main point was that being (called) "a vegetable"(=brain-dead) is no better than being (called) "a cow"(=fat), "a pig", or "a chicken"(=a coward). A counterargumen...

You gotta love some questions. :P
 
6:24 PM
@Werner oooh never test answers, you might find they don't work.
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@mhelvens While it's in my mind. I was thinking about your data structure business. It struck me that one reason we aren't fussed about fixed versus flexible keys in a prop or similar is memory. In C, etc., there is an effect on allocating memory if you know some part of a variable is fixed in length. That's not the case for us: everything is left to TeX, and for macros there is no concept of a 'fixed length'.
 
6:41 PM
If I want to reduce the size of an article title (article class) then should I just wrap it in some font reducing command, or is there a better way?
 
6:52 PM
@DavidCarlisle :)
@MarcoDaniel One drawback I have with the new CTAN setup is that the documentation is not readily available from the main package page.
...you have to click twice.
...and who wants to do that in this day and age?
 
@Werner yes i agree
even the file list should come first before the scroll bar window
 
7:12 PM
@texenthusiast I think a new interface is good. It keeps things up-to-date, so I'm all for it. I'll get used to the location of the documentation.
But there are some problems. For example, see the title page for the atbegshi package.
It lists the "CTAN path" as the .dtx, and not the actual folder containing the package "stuff".
So you can't readily find the documentation by visiting that location.
So you either have to resort to texdoc atbegshi, or visit TeXdoc, or Google atbegshi.pdf.
 
7:40 PM
@Werner Do not dispair, wait for my mirror. :)
 
@JosephWright Yep, I understand. (Just replying. No time to chat right now. Cheers!)
 
@PauloCereda Now I'm curious...
 
@Werner Just kidding, I have no infrastructure to host a CTAN mirror. :)
 
@PauloCereda Now I'm disappointed...
 
@Werner Oh. :(
 
7:43 PM
He he.
 
I've got the blue mark, but there aren't any spam flags. Disappointing.
 
It's not always possible to please errbody.
@AndrewStacey I've had that as well, with some really rich content, but then it pertains to a different chat room. Is that a bug?
Not today though.
 
@Werner Getting it isn't a bug - but it's empty for me which suggests something buggish. Try saying something "offensive" here and see the flood of people from other chat rooms who come to see who dared to say something out of line in the TeX chat room.
 
@AndrewStacey L
O
L
 
@AndrewStacey LOL
 
7:53 PM
@AndrewStacey vim
 
@DavidCarlisle Nice try. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Interesting comments on xspace. I'll continue to use it, but it's definitely food for thought.
 
@AlanMunn just need to stop people using all the rest of my packages now.
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@DavidCarlisle :) You'll have to pry longtable and graphicx out of my cold dead hands.
 
@DavidCarlisle Get LaTeX3 sorted then!
@DavidCarlisle xor
@DavidCarlisle Or RTL :-)
 
8:12 PM
What's ‮RTL?
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@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@JosephWright Of course discussion of xetex/luatex RTL primitives has so far skipped over how we should typeset that comment.
 
@DavidCarlisle Well yes
@DavidCarlisle What's interesting is that this really seems not to have been discussed much on the LuaTeX or XeTeX lists!
 
@JosephWright Probably because those lists are in english
 
@DavidCarlisle Could be
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure sending Taco an e-mail in Hebrew will be very effective :-)
 
8:19 PM
Heya
 
@N3buchadnezzar Hello
 
@JosephWright I vote for an obscure yet funny language, like Klingon. :)
 
@PauloCereda But is it RTL?
 
@JosephWright I could never read it, so I guess so. :) I prefer to blame the writing orientation. :)
@JosephWright: OMG Borg is RTL!
 
@PauloCereda They wouldn't let it in to unicode
 
8:25 PM
@DavidCarlisle :)
Oh. RIP Ravi Shankar. :(
 
@PauloCereda main reason was "Lack of evidence of usage in published literature, " But I suspect they only checked earth literature
 
8:59 PM
What does \rmdefault mean? Trying to understand
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Q: Changing the font size of document title

Edward GrefenstetteA publication I am submitting to has the rather annoying requirement of needing the document title to be size 16pt (and the regular text size being 12pt, which I know how to do). I have absolutely no idea how to change the font size of the title (beyond adding \Large, \LARGE etc. but none of thes...

 
@FaheemMitha It defines the default family for \textrm or \rmfamily so it is cmr if you are using teh default computer modern family and it is not cnmr if you are not
latex \\show\\rmdefault
> \rmdefault=\long macro:
->cmr.
<*> \show\rmdefault
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks, but doesn't help me much. Maybe I should look at \usefont instead
 
@FaheemMitha usefont is a simple helper to set all the axes of NFSS at one time:
\def\usefont#1#2#3#4{\fontencoding{#1}\fontfamily{#2}%
             \fontseries{#3}\fontshape{#4}\selectfont
             \ignorespaces}
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok, I see.
Thanks.
So, just default encoding, default font family, bold series, and presumably normal shape
 
@FaheemMitha yes
 
9:08 PM
@DavidCarlisle Cheers.
 
@FaheemMitha well actually not quite default family you can set \familydeafult to (say) \sfdefault rather than \rmdefault so the document default is sans serf but rmdefault still controls \textrm
 
@DavidCarlisle OK, so if one is using sans serif, that this won't select sans serif?
 
@FaheemMitha probably not (of course if you go \def\rmdefault{cmss} it will but...) safest to say it determines what \textrm selects without committing yourself to any actual result in the output:-)
 
9:28 PM
@DavidCarlisle So, would you modify that answer? If so, how?
 
10:08 PM
@FaheemMitha Probably the answer is fine, If you have specific requirements about point size of heading fonts there is probably specific choice of fonts as well so making it more or less generic is not that imprtant, whichever is easiest. probably I'd just have written it as \reset@font\bfseries\fontsize{16}{20}\selectfont which is probably equivalent to what is there now but perhaps a bit less obscure although not as efficient as it runs \selectfont nore often
 
10:34 PM
Heavy rain during half of my daily jogging.
 
@DavidCarlisle This is brilliant!
 
@AlanMunn Our David. :)
@AlanMunn: as a Brazilian, I'm not sure the "bode" I know is the same of this question:
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Q: Bode plot : any good alternative to bodegraph

s__CI'm wondering if there is any alternative to "bodegraph" for plotting bode graph with latex. Especially I would ideally be looking for something easy to run (avoid external computation like with gnuplot for example). I could use matfig2pgf and export from Matlab but there are some misterious er...

:)
 
10:50 PM
300 silver badges. :)
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@egreg Oh my! :)
 
@PauloCereda Of which 199 are "Enlightened" :)
 
@egreg ooh! :) We need a cake. :)
 
11:07 PM
@egreg enlightened is too easy shouldn't be silver (compared with getting a silver tag badge:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I have 13 enlightened.
 
@PauloCereda I'msure yours are well earned:-), but Ive got 102 but only 3 tag silvers so there doesn't really seem to be any similarity in difficulty, not that it really matters:-0
 
@DavidCarlisle I have no idea how I got mine. :P
 
11:26 PM
@AlanMunn: Do you use Github for Mac?
 
@PauloCereda I have, but I prefer SourceTree.
 
@AlanMunn I was gonna suggest ST. :)
 
Hi everyone :) I have something of a Meta question about chat "registration": I've registered for attending the TexTalk Interview tomorrow with Ulrike Fischer but I'm still not sure I'll be able to attend. Should I keep or remove my registration?
 
@ricmarques Don't worry. :) The "registration" is not a real registration, it's just a friendly reminder of the event, just in case you forget. :) You can join the chatroom freely, and even post questions to Ulrike. :)
If you register in the event, SE will send you an email one hour before to remind you. That's about it. :)
 
@PauloCereda: Ah, great! Many thanks for the explanation ! :)
 
11:36 PM
@ricmarques My pleasure. :) We are looking forward to seeing you there tomorrow. :)
 
@PauloCereda: Thanks! :) The problem for me is that part of it will overlap with my Lunch hour and part of it will overlap with my "work hours". BTW, I'm not complaining: I'm just explaining why I may not be able to attend it in whole or in part.
 
@ricmarques Ah I see. By the way, post-interview questions and remarks are welcome. We usually wait a few days to then "lock" the interview and get it ready for publishing. You can read the whole interview later on and eventually ask other questions to Ulrike. :)
 
@PauloCereda: Cool :) I didn't know that you could write post-interview questions. Thanks for the info. I did find the Blog where previous Textalk Interviews are posted: great stuff! :)
 
@ricmarques Thanks for the kind words. :) We try our best. :)
We have a list of the interviews here:
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Q: TeXtalk interviews

Paulo Cereda Introduction As part of the celebrations of our first birthday, we decided to interview great members of our community. Since we received very positive feedback from our beloved users, the TeXtalk became a regular event in our community blog. Our interviews are also indexed in the TUG Intervi...

We will use, for the first time, a lioness instead of the current interview lion. :)
 
@PauloCereda: That's a great post. I starred it now. Thanks! :)
... and thumbs up for the lioness, then ;-)
 
11:47 PM
@ricmarques ;) I'm quite surprised I managed to draw a decent lioness. :)
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@PauloCereda: That's awesome! :) My drawing abilities are close to zero, unfortunately
 
@ricmarques My skills are not good, it's more luck-based. :P
 
@PauloCereda That deserves two ducks up.
 
@Werner aww <3
I wonder the trouble we might get in when we need to change her wardrobe.
 
@PauloCereda: I agree with @Werner - that deserves two ducks up! :) Concerning the wardrobe change, I'm sorry, but you're on your own! ;-)
 
11:59 PM
@ricmarques Oh no! :)
 

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