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2:55 AM
Greetings!
 
3:12 AM
Must not have been a real date if you're on E&&.SE chat.
 
 
9 hours later…
12:02 PM
Meh, date was supposed to be tonight, but got cancelled because of "hangover", would you believe it? I have a pretty bad hangover too, but I'm not complaining. Kids these days...
 
You must get up pretty late.
Wow, a "push to open" question. Really?
All the fun questions were asked and answered back in August and September. Now it's getting to be janitorial service.
@Cerberus: I know you're in here, I can hear your head pounding.
 
12:38 PM
@Rob: Damn you got me.
Yeah it sucks that we came by so late on this site.
(I usually get up at 12 when possible, which includes Sundays.)
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Q: why do we utter special this way?

Mr. Dhamawhy do we utter special this way?

This one is weird. Is he asking about pronunciation?
 
Your guess is as good as mine.
 
I voted to close.
 
Yeah I will too.
Wow, people do not like my helpful addition to the "sick or ill" discussion:
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A: "sick" or "ill"?

RobustoBe aware that sick has lately taken on some new freight: in current slang usages it is replacing awesome as the clichéd announcement of approval. That is just sick! or That is so sick! are not use to mean unwell or ill. And while you may not have any trouble distinguishing the meaning...

 
Hmm you got a downvote.
I see nothing wrong with your answer, so here's another upvote.
 
Merci.
I didn't intend it to wholly answer the OP's question, as others had already done so, but it adds useful information and is too long to put into a comment.
 
12:46 PM
Yeah that is fine afaiac.
 
Voted to close the 'special' question.
 
I should get dressed, it is time to go drink something fancy in the sun at some café.
Bye!
 
Laterz.
T-Rex is on the prowl again, btw.
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Q: What do sales people mean by: "Don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle"?

ArthurRexWho coined this phrase and what is the meaning behind it?

 
1:09 PM
Yeah he's a quaint fellow.
(Friends are picking me up in 5.)
 
Have fun.
 
I was tempted to make up a story about the sizzling steak and have it end in disaster.
 
Haha, go ahead.
I started to answer, but then something about it felt fishy and I looked at who was asking. The stealth dinosaur!
"We were so poor we didn't have any steak, so we had to sell the sizzle."
This principle works with meat, but fails utterly at tofu.
For some reason this Emo Phillips line just popped into my head: "My computer can beat me at chess, but it's no match for me at kick boxing."
 
1:27 PM
Hey guys.
Why do you call him T-Rex?
 
Why not?
 
Ah.
 
So you're in Boston or Boston area? I'm in western suburbs.
 
Say, @Robusto, d'you have any recommendations for good British period films with great acting? On Alain's recommendations I saw The Madness of King George and really enjoyed it. Oh, that are not Jane Austen novels either.
Boston proper. BU grad school.
 
I'd have to think about it.
Does it have to be any particular period?
 
1:35 PM
No, not particularly.
 
Well, let's see ... how about
The Remains of the Day is a 1993 Merchant Ivory film adapted by Ruth Prawer Jhabvala from the novel by Kazuo Ishiguro. It was directed by James Ivory and produced by Ismail Merchant, Mike Nichols and John Calley. It starred Anthony Hopkins as Stevens and Emma Thompson as Miss Kenton with James Fox, Christopher Reeve, Hugh Grant and Ben Chaplin. The film was nominated for eight Academy Awards. Plot In 1950s England, Mr Stevens (Anthony Hopkins), the butler of Darlington Hall, receives a letter from Miss Kenton (Emma Thompson), who worked with him as housekeeper during the years prior to th...
The Lion in Winter is a 1968 historical costume drama made by Avco Embassy Pictures, based on the Broadway play by James Goldman. It was directed by Anthony Harvey and produced by Joseph E. Levine from Goldman's adaptation of his own play, The Lion in Winter. The movie starred Peter O'Toole, Katharine Hepburn, and in early appearances, Timothy Dalton and Anthony Hopkins. The critically acclaimed film won three Academy Awards, including one for Hepburn as Best Actress (she and Funny Girl's Barbra Streisand tied that year, the only time this has happened for actresses in Academy history)....
Shakespeare in Love is a 1998 romantic comedy film directed by John Madden and written by Marc Norman and playwright Tom Stoppard. The film purports to portray playwright William Shakespeare's involvement in a love affair at the time that he was writing the play Romeo and Juliet. The story is fiction, though several of the characters are based on real people. In addition, many of the characters, lines, and plot devices are references to Shakespeare's plays. Shakespeare in Love won seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Actress (for Gwyneth Paltrow), and Best Supporting Actre...
 
Interesting! I'll check it out.
 
Rob Roy is a 1995 American historical drama film directed by Michael Caton-Jones. Liam Neeson stars as Robert Roy MacGregor, an 18th century Scottish historical figure who battles with feudal landowners in the Scottish Highlands. Jessica Lange, John Hurt, Tim Roth, Eric Stoltz, and Jason Flemyng also star. Roth was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his portrayal of the villain Archibald Cunningham. Plot Robert Roy MacGregor (Neeson) is a cattle drover and the leader of a clan in 18th century Scotland. He seeks and receives a loan of £1000 from the Marquis of ...
 
Yeah, I can't stand Romantic comedies.
Actually I do have a sort of preference, I realized.
 
Hehe, Shakespeare in Love is written by Tom Stoppard. Very funny.
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is an absurdist, existentialist tragicomedy by Tom Stoppard, first staged at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe in 1966. The play expands upon the exploits of two minor characters from Shakespeare's Hamlet, the courtiers Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. The action of Stoppard's play takes place mainly 'in the wings' of Shakespeare's, with brief appearances of major characters from Hamlet who enact fragments of the original's scenes. Between these episodes the two protagonists voice their confusion at the progress of events of which—occurring onstage withou...
 
1:39 PM
I like films having to do with monarchy and courts and noblemen.
 
Also a movie, also by Tom Stoppard.
 
Awesome movie, watched.
In high school.
 
Anne of the Thousand Days is a 1969 costume drama made by Hal Wallis Productions and distributed by Universal Pictures. It was directed by Charles Jarrott and produced by Hal B. Wallis. The film tells the story of Anne Boleyn. The screenplay is an adaptation by Bridget Boland, John Hale and Richard Sokolove of the 1948 play by Maxwell Anderson; Anderson's blank verse format was retained for only portions of the screenplay, such as Anne's soliloquy in the Tower of London. The film stars Richard Burton as King Henry VIII and Genevieve Bujold as Anne Boleyn. Irene Papas plays Catherine of Ar...
I'm just throwing shit out here.
Elizabeth is a 1998 biographical film written by Michael Hirst, directed by Shekhar Kapur, and starring Cate Blanchett in the title role of Queen Elizabeth I of England, alongside Geoffrey Rush, Christopher Eccleston, Joseph Fiennes, Sir John Gielgud, Fanny Ardant and Richard Attenborough. Loosely based on the early years of Elizabeth's reign, in 2007, Blanchett reprised the role in the sequel, ', covering the later part of her reign. The film brought Australian actress Blanchett to international attention. She won several awards for her portrayal of Elizabeth, notably a BAFTA and a Golde...
 
1960s...that won't be available on Usenet.
Maybe....
 
Elizabeth is very good.
 
1:41 PM
Elizabeth sounds just like my kind of film.
How's the sequel?
 
Which is?
 
Elizabeth: The Golden Age is a 2007 sequel to the 1998 film Elizabeth, directed by Shekhar Kapur and produced by Universal Pictures and Working Title Films. It stars Cate Blanchett in the title role and is loosely based on events during the latter part of the reign of Queen Elizabeth I of England. The screenplay was written by William Nicholson and Michael Hirst. The music score was composed by A. R. Rahman and Craig Armstrong. It was filmed at Shepperton Studios and various locations around the United Kingdom with an estimated production budget of 50 to 60 million USD. Guy Hendrix Dyas w...
 
Oh, you mean Elizabeth II?
Haven't seen that one.
Cromwell is a 1970 film, based on the life of Oliver Cromwell who led the Parliamentary forces during the English Civil War and, as Lord Protector, ruled Great Britain and Ireland in the 1650s. It features an all-star cast led by Richard Harris as Cromwell and Alec Guinness as King Charles I. There is also Robert Morley as Edward Montagu, 2nd Earl of Manchester and Timothy Dalton as Prince Rupert of the Rhine. Plot Oliver Cromwell is a devout, God-fearing country squire, magistrate and former Member of Parliament. Parliament has not met in over a decade and as a result the policies of K...
BTW, Tim Roth is outstanding as an immoral fop in Rob Roy.
 
Heh. Wikipedia has a whole blurb about the inaccuracies in Cromwell.
 
I'm sure you've seen Braveheart.
 
1:44 PM
(Yeah...me.)
*meh
Don't get me wrong, it's ok
 
Well, Patrick McGoohan plays a great King Edward. I'm just saying.
 
But I like movies with subtle court intrigue and things like that over pound-on-the breast action.
Those are the keepers.
 
Did you see the HBO series The Tudors?
 
No!
Should I have?
 
If you like the court intrigue thing.
Also ...
The Other Boleyn Girl is a 2008 drama film directed by Justin Chadwick. The screenplay by Peter Morgan was adapted from the 2001 novel of the same name by Philippa Gregory. It is a romanticized account of the lives of 16th-century aristocrats Mary Boleyn, one-time mistress of King Henry VIII, and her sister, Queen Anne, who became the monarch's ill-fated second wife, though much history is distorted. Production studio BBC Films also owns the rights to adapt the sequel novel, The Boleyn Inheritance, which tells the story of Anne of Cleves, Catherine Howard and Jane Boleyn. Plot When Kathe...
 
1:47 PM
I dled it, but never watched it, after I read that Portman's acting was stilted in it.
It was negatively reviewed in a couple of places I read.
I also think not having British actors hurt it.
Excellent British actors are usually in more obscure things than their American counterparts, because their film industry isn't as big.\
 
I thought Portman was good, but I like her in just about anything.
 
I like Portman, as a person.
She's alot of intelligent guys' dream crush.
But her acting, up till Black Swan, was not superlative.
She gave everything in that movie, I was seriously impressed.
 
And Eric Bana gave a surprisingly powerful performance as Henry VIII. Seriously, I was impressed.
 
Interesting...
 
Just be aware that the more court intrigue you get, the more the films shade toward a female audience. I'm just saying.
 
1:50 PM
Really?
 
If you're confident in your manhood you can watch them without fear. Otherwise ...
:)
 
Another thing that shaded me away from TOBG was how they promoted it with the angle of Scar Jo & Portman, kinda towards horny guys rather than about the history.
It's not about confidence in my manhood or anything.
More than most guys, I enjoy romance.
But romantic comedies are more likely a twisted fantasy of romance, as it exist in women's heads.
Guys wait patiently and forever, while the woman dallies in her decision.
 
Do see Shakespeare in Love. It is really funny, and has really great dialogue.
@Billare — Yeah, the Jane Eyre syndrome.
 
Yes, @Robusto, exactly. My mom and my sister LOVE that movie.
God, it's annoying.
Mr. Darcy does not exist in real life!
 
All women I've met in my life love the movie and/or the book.
 
1:53 PM
No, that's Pride and Prejudice.
 
I think it is imprinted in that missing arm of our Y-chromosome.
We just don't get it.
 
Yes.
I like romances where couples "grudgingly" fall in love.
It isn't planned, and it isn't lighthearted.
It's natural, they can't help but do it because of their interests and situations.
 
Shakespeare in Love is Tom Stoppard, so you know it's not going to be sappy. It is mordant and deep even while being a hilarious romp.
A terrific cast, too.
 
Yeah, I've heard it recommended.
By lots of girl acquaintances though.
 
Trust me. As a fellow male and hater of Jane Eyre and all of that ilk, you know I would not steer you wrong.
 
1:57 PM
I end up just feeling embarassed for alot of characters in romantic comedies, you know.
 
Well, duh.
 
Heh, I'll check it out don't worry.
 
Now, I've seen some chick flicks that i wish i could unsee, but that's the price we pay for having relationships with women. I mean, it goes with the territory.
 
Indeed.
Anyway, I must depart.
Nice chatting with you; thanks for the recommendations.
 
CYA
 
 
9 hours later…
11:06 PM
(Catching up) Having seen one too many pictures of the costuming in The Other Boleyn Girl, I simply cannot force myself to watch it. Ditto for the Tudors. Shakespeare in Love, on the other hand, found the perfect balance of suitable-for-the-movies and period-accurate.
 
@Martha: What was wrong with the costuming?
 

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