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CMM: Are pseudocode answers allowed, and if so, is there a standard on how to score them? I don't see why they should be but I thought I'd ask first
How should I flag them then? "Not an answer"?
"Spam" and "rude or abusive" don't apply but I don't have a strong reason to specifically select any one of the other three
01:59
not an answer yeah
also is there an option for just site-specific reasons
Only for questions, not answers
so yeah just go with not an answer
Okay, I flagged the one I saw
 
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03:17
Does anyone here know if using UTM on a Mac is as convenient and performant as WSL?
Universal Transverse Mercator? q:
Thinking of buying a refurbished Mac
Cursed thing I kinda want to try: dual-boot macOS 13 / Windows 10
You need to run MacOS in a VM if you don't have a Mac, no?
And Windows won't run on a Mac
You might be able to dual-boot MacOS and Asahi Linux though
Well the thing is, I have some Windows-only games installed
03:22
You could always make a Windows VM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

jfioasdOutput the ground-state configutation of an element Background info Electrons repel each other, so in each orientation, there can be at most 2 electrons. Specifically: The s orbital has 1 orientation, so it can be filled with a maximum of 2 electrons. The p orbital has 3 orientations, so it can ...

Running MacOS inside a VM can be more problematic (or so I've heard, definitely never tried it myself) and also mildly illegal
I have gotten a working Win10 VM on macOS 11 before, but I don’t know that I’d get good enough performance for gaming with that
What do you want MacOS for specifically?
Xcode, since Swift is much better supported there than on other platforms
03:29
Ah
03:49
... Looks like I died again
04:06
@naffetS Glad to see you got better
 
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@user well, it will run on a mac if you get one with an x86 processor
07:11
Hey hi hello just letting everyone know the Programming Language Design Area51 Proposal is <=3 people away from private beta. Commit if you haven't already done so and spread the word to people you know might be interested.
If you already committed it might be worth double checking it it worked properly
^
a51 is a51
07:37
I wanted to see Everything Everywhere All at Once but I couldn't find a suitable inertial reference frame...
 
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12:02
@user wait it is
ive been doing it for years
 
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13:10
WE DID IT LADS
200 COMMITTERS
PLDI'S BECOMING A SITE
13:20
Watch it still get closed as duplicate of softeng or CS
I have faith in lyxal's ability to keep that from happening
which may not be the best idea, because lyxal hasn't exactly proven himself to be worthy of trust
@mousetail if was going to, it'd be done by now
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Q: How does "Programming Language Design and Implementation" overlap with existing SE communities?

JNatProposal: Programming Language Design and Implementation I've chatted with a few of the users behind this proposal in chat (and internally with other members of the Community Management Team), and while this proposal does seem to have some areas of overlap with existing sites on the SE network, i...

I know
But sometimes they decide these things late
@Ginger that's rydwolf's job
I'm just the ads guy :p
JNAT doesn't seem to have confirmed in their meta post that we'll definitely not be closed
13:23
The proposal for Programming Language Design and Implementation has reached 200 committers and is going to become a site! Thanks to everyone who participated in the proposal and helped this come to fruition!
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@lyxal can we get ^ pinned?
I think so
cool
13:34
@lyxal I am surprised CGCC didn't even get a mention (cc @RydwolfPrograms), given that language design questions have even won Best Of CGCC categories before
14:03
@Ginger YEAHHHH
 
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Q: Shortest Path Around Obstacle

97.100.97.109The task here is simple: given a target location on an XY grid, and a rectangle on that grid, find the length of the shortest path from the origin to the target which does not intersect the rectangle. All parameter values are integers. You can assume that neither the target point nor the origin i...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Huỳnh Trần KhanhString Concatenation code-golf You are given a string \$s\$ of characters from a to z. Your task is to count how many unique strings of length \$n\$ you can make by concatenating multiple prefixes of the string \$s\$ together. Since the result can be superlative you can either choose to output th...

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@cairdcoinheringaahing wait they have
18:12
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Q: Tips for Creating/Maintaining a Golfing Language

lyxalCreating a golfing language can be hard. Let's help budding golfing language creators out and provide some helpful tips on how to create one. I'm looking for tips on: The design process Implementation Community engagement One tip per answer would be appreciated, and tips like "don't create a ne...

Also, y'know,
18:27
yo @cairdcoinheringaahing we have some messages in TST that need moving
@Neil Oh, didn't think of that. I thought one big appeal of the Macs was M1/M2, though
@Seggan Oh maybe I just didn't set it up right then. I think I ran out of memory or something
How have you been doing it btw? I wanna try Hackintosh so I can try out iOS apps
Virtual box plus iOS image
i deleted it a few months ago as it was taking up too much space
18:52
Ah
Where'd you get the image?
Erm I forgot
 
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> All language features can be misused. This [misusability] is never going to be a good enough reason not to have a feature.
this was in the context of operator overloading
thoughts?
Depends on how easy/severe the misusability is
It's not a all or nothing situation, yes every feature can be abused but that does not mean you can't consider it at all
Generally make sure there is a good, proper way to do everything that's ergonomic so people don't feel the need to abuse other features to get what they want
@Seggan Allowing invisible characters in identifiers? Allowing zero-width spaces as token separators? Surely, this rule would lead to including everything.
20:56
You should allow invisible character in identifiers
There are languages that legitimately use invisible characters
Any modern language should be capable of detecting Unicode trickery and issuing warnings though
And you could possibly do something like international URIs do and limit variable names to a single script/language
E.g., I can't include a Cyrillic e in an English variable name, or a Mongolian vowel separator in a Russian or Japanese or French variable name
@RydwolfPrograms Disagree
This would imply that you should have identifiers
Heh, if you allow identifiers, people will just abuse them.
Okay fair :p
Forgot who I was talking to ig :p
21:24
Have you heard of malware?
21:41
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Q: What is a short python code which implements a string-to-float function?

Samuel MuldoonThere are to_float or str2float functions written in C, Intelx86, and a number of other languages from before I was born. However, I was wondering how to write a really short str2float function in python. str2float shall be some callable which accepts any one of the following inputs: a string su...

 
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i made an extendable tokenizer using just TS types
now i just have to make a parser :8
23:29
Okay, this homework assignment is asking me to use POSIX monitors to implement something... but from what I can find, POSIX doesn't have monitors, only threads, mutexes, and semaphores

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