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CarLaTeX

08:32

Is it possibible to undo a "Looks OK"? I didn't see it was an answer, not a question

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samcarter

09:41

@CarLaTeX Flagging the answer should undo the "looks ok" review (but it already has been deleted)

CarLaTeX

@samcarter Thank you, indeed, I flagged it, after realizing my error.

samcarter

@CarLaTeX ... and I have to agree, for a question it really looked good, had a description of the problem, code to reproduce it etc. :)

CarLaTeX

@samcarter Yes, it did!

samcarter

@CarLaTeX I wonder why they split the first post review into two queues for questions and answers, but have all of them mixed together in the low quality review?

CarLaTeX

@samcarter That's a good question!

samcarter

10:36

github.com/mgieseki/dvisvgm/releases/tag/3.0

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Paulo Cereda

12:25

@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle The Telegraph: Britain's transformation into the new Italy is now almost complete

That means good food :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda we'll need to import more pineapples for the pizzas

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

CarLaTeX

12:47

@PauloCereda I thought the same :D

@DavidCarlisle you need to ban pineapple pizza

Paulo Cereda

13:01

@CarLaTeX haha

samcarter

13:59

@mods Could you take a look at this tag wiki suggestion tex.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/239368 ? The first paragraph seems to be verbatim plagiarized from e.g. communityliteracy.org/what-is-the-study-of-music-called . There are a couple of other sites which use the exact same phrase, too, so it is difficult to say what the actual source is.

mickep

14:25

Interesting choice to have italic correction for © in a math font.

David Carlisle

@mickep italic correction more for cutting in subscripts than correcting for italic?

mickep

@DavidCarlisle could be that it is there for spacing reasons, but who will use © in connection with sub/superscripts? :)

David Carlisle

@mickep no one but does it match other circled letters?

mickep

@DavidCarlisle That I have not checked. (Also the & had an italic correction, as well as various squares/rectangles and stuff)

@DavidCarlisle The "old" TeX style of italics correction in math is not really compatible with the Opentype one, specified by Microsoft. But I think we now have a model that works for the different kinds of fonts.

David Carlisle

14:48

@mickep yes it's a mess, if your investigations end up with some documented guidelines for setting up new math fonts, that would be a good thing...

mickep

@DavidCarlisle There is a tugboat article sent in. Hans actually talked about getting this into luatex as well. We'll see.

samcarter

^^^ just seen some unique formatting of a preamble

Marcel Krüger

BTW LuaMetaLaTeX is starting to be not completely broken for simple documents so if someone wants to play with it I would be happy for alpha testers :)

mickep

15:14

@MarcelKrüger ooh, great

TeXnician

@MarcelKrüger Don't let Hans hear that, else he'll find a quick way to break it to prove that LMTX is unstable :D

Congrats btw. I really love ConTeXt LMTX and look forward to LuaMetaLaTeX :)

Marcel Krüger

It currently uses a slightly forked engine already, so I can fight back :P

David Carlisle

@MarcelKrüger have you put all the #ifdef back in so it compiles on cygwin:-)

Sep 16 at 21:08, by David Carlisle

@mickep luatex sources have lots of CYGWIN #define tests, searching new sources only shows one cygwin:

./source/luarest/lmtoslibext.c:    porting effort (amiga,mac,os2,vms). We dropped solaris, cygwin, hpux, iris, sysv, dos, djgpp

Marcel Krüger

15:33

@DavidCarlisle Can't cygwin use the normal Windows binaries?

David Carlisle

@MarcelKrüger with some wrappers I could make it work but it's not so convenient as the paths are wrong cygwin sees /usr/local/texlive/2022/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ but that is a virtual posix view: a windows binary sees c:/cygwin64/usr/local/texlive/2022/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/

Ulrike Fischer

@MarcelKrüger are there binaries somewhere?

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda always enjoys making JVM binaries work with cygwin paths

Marcel Krüger

@UlrikeFischer The readme links to an installer which downloads the latest binaries from lmltx.typesetting.eu

David Carlisle

@MarcelKrüger better is use the linux binaries on wsl

Marcel Krüger

15:44

@DavidCarlisle That's in many ways a much better option.

David Carlisle

@MarcelKrüger yes it's just hard to unpick 20+ years of cygwin dependence, we use it for all windows related builds, switching to wsl is probably the future but not so easily done

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Ulrike Fischer

17:14

@MarcelKrüger I can't run this installer. it fails with the message that libwinpthread-1.dll is missing. I also tried the manual .dll and the exe but I can't run them either in ini mode with the same error.

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Paulo Cereda

18:21

oh no

@MarcelKrüger the day I finally come up with a solution for cygwin, David will immediately move to WSL :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda or perhaps you'll buy me a mac

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle with UK-TUG's money :)

@JosephWright ^^ please mr secretary

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I hear islands are good places to find treasure

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

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Marcel Krüger

20:37

@UlrikeFischer Ups, that should be fixed in the new version.

@PauloCereda That sounds like a great reason to work on Cygwin support ;)

Ulrike Fischer

20:57

@MarcelKrüger hm no change. do I need a 64bit texlive?

Marcel Krüger

21:15

@UlrikeFischer Doe it still complain about winpthread or something else? 64bit TeX Live should not be required (it would be cleaner since it otherwise installs 64bit binaries into the 32bit binary path, but technically it doesn't matter)

Ulrike Fischer

@MarcelKrüger yes.

Marcel Krüger

@UlrikeFischer That's odd, AFAICT the new installer doesn't reference that DLL at all. What is the exact size of the new installer ZIP file on your system?

Ulrike Fischer

@MarcelKrüger ah, progress after a new download

@MarcelKrüger Is there anything special to do for the format?

Marcel Krüger

21:32

@UlrikeFischer If you don't have old formats around then they get generated automatically, but running fmtutil doesn't hurt.

Ulrike Fischer

@MarcelKrüger you mean the installer added an fmtutil entry somewhere?

Marcel Krüger

@UlrikeFischer Yes

in $TEXMFSYSCONFIG/web2c/fmtutil.cnf.

Ulrike Fischer

@MarcelKrüger found it. I also found the local version from earlier tests. A format is now created, but acrobat doesn't like the pdf of a test file ...

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Marcel Krüger

22:47

@UlrikeFischer The latest git commit hopefully fixes that, there was some corruption of PDF registers.