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5:50 AM
 
@Rmano I do not see the point in adding those "comments"
 
6:38 AM
@mickep well, it was to try to help... But if they seems over the top I'll remove them
 
 
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10:01 AM
@Rmano oh, I did not mean your comments! I was talking about the ones in the formulas. :⁠-⁠)
 
@yo' if only I had a document with an error, so I could see the difference...
 
@DavidCarlisle you can try with \noduckfordinner
 
@UlrikeFischer ^
 
10:32 AM
@mickep Ah! Yes, maybe for showing what they are doing step by step... I hope is a kind of "find the error" exercise. The matter is that I see those things too much... even reviewing papers. ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle it works ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer it's a feature, not an error. :)
 
@PauloCereda stop-at-first-feature would be a good menu option
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
@PauloCereda you could fix article class to print YES
 
10:35 AM
@UlrikeFischer ooh
 
@PauloCereda or perhaps it should print "pizza with pineapples instead"
 
@UlrikeFischer then chaos in Italy :)
 
10:55 AM
@PauloCereda chaos in Italy is more or less guaranteed starting next week. We should implement halt-on-error on politicians...
 
@Rmano ooh I already voted :)
 
@PauloCereda Yeah, me too. But I'm pretty sure it will be bad news (I can always opt for Spanish nationality, although it's a though decision ;-þ)
 
@Rmano ooh los esquilos
 
@PauloCereda ardilla aquí ;-)
 
@Rmano ooh
 
yo'
11:15 AM
@PauloCereda you got your Italian passport? :-o
 
@yo' sadly, not yet (I even need to get my US visa... talk about bureaucracy). :( But they send us the ballots to vote by mail. :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda ah so you have the citizenship claimed but not the passport issued?
 
Probably people has asked this question before, but I don't know how to find it.

I want to make a document with this design:
 
@tush What have you tried? It's quite straight-forward to do with a proper margin setup and margin notes.
 
That is, margin paragraphs on the margins with main text, but to be able to insert a paragraph which takes the full textwidth+marginparwidth
 
11:19 AM
@yo' correct! I think the European passport would be good to have, so I might get one alongside my US visa...
 
yo'
@PauloCereda yeah! It shouldn't be that difficult if there's an Italian consulate in Sao Paulo!
 
@tush You can have a look at the adjustwidth environment from changepage for that.
 
I only have

\usepackage{geometry}
\geometry{settings for lengths}
@TeXnician Is there a way to do it without a package?
 
@tush Sure you can manually place h/vboxes. But why avoid a quite common package?
 
Because..

Maybe I will do it with the package but at least now it is a very local change for the document, so I prefer to be more "minimalistic"
 
11:23 AM
@yo' Indeed! They are not exactly efficient, but it's worth a try. :)
 
@TeXnician Could you elaborate on \vboxes?
 
@tush I could. But if you don't know how to place vboxes and hboxes yourself, you should probably avoid them. After all, they are TeX constructs rather than LaTeX. For a more LaTeXy approach have a look at the implementation and use of trivlist (see source2e) which is a common way to adjust margins. And if you then look at the implementation of adjustwidth in the changepage documentation you will see it just uses a LaTeX list environment.
So, in fact, I recommend you to read the changepage documentation and especially the source code of the adjustwidth environment (page 12). There you have a plain LaTeX solution.
 
All right. I will have a look.

Just curious: One should avoid plain tex commands in a latex document?
 
@tush You are free to use whatever you want. But if you use plain TeX commands make sure to understand them. I prefer to stay on the LaTeX level of abstractions for document code. At least that's my view on it. Others may differ.
 
@TeXnician Thanks very much
 
yo'
11:36 AM
@PauloCereda This is fortunately quite a standard task :)
 
@tush You might want to look at the tufte classes
 
@samcarter Or if you are German and able to read KOMA documentation: scrlayer-notecolumn.
 
11:52 AM
@yo' ooh :)
 
12:09 PM
@PauloCereda That's how I renew my passport here. Get an appointment, and be sure to read all the needed stuff (for example: do you know that if you have a son/daughter you need the formal ok of your wife to have an Italian passport issued? I discovered it the hard way). Then it's easy.
 
@TeXnician Isn't there also an English version of the koma doc?
@Rmano Do you have to swear to never put pineapple on pizza before they hand out the new passport?
 
@samcarter Sure. But it's often a bit behind the German one (often several versions). And it's much harder to understand all those excellent German forum posts by the KOMA community (and Markus himself) if you can't read German.
 
@samcarter gosh, no, that's tacitly understood.
 
@TeXnician ah, that's interesting! I think I never looked at the German version, maybe I have to add a custom alias for texdoc to remember to get this version instead.
@Rmano :P
 
@samcarter At least it used to be that way and there was a disclaimer in the English version of the manual. Can't find this disclaimer anymore. So maybe it has changed (at least regarding the manual, not regarding the forums, of course).
 
12:21 PM
@TeXnician I guess the German version can't hurt, so I could as well switch to it
 
12:48 PM
@samcarter Nah, I will stick with article doc class
 
1:02 PM
@tush but you are not applying that logic consistently, geometry for example is a far larger and more intrusive package, but you use that?
 
1:30 PM
@DavidCarlisle I am sorry, what do you mean?
 
@tush you could set the page size "by hand" (which is fairly easy) but you chose to use \usepackage{geometry} (a big complicated package) instead. But to change the text block size mid-page (which is a bit tricky) you said you would want to avoid changepage (a fairly simple package) to keep things minimal. I'm not suggesting you don't use geometry but just commenting on the apparent inconsistency
 
1:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle Right. I see what you mean.
 
2:06 PM
I want to insert an image set its height to be that of the in-line height, like this:
what should I write in height=?
Here I used \includegraphics[height=\baselineskip]{example-image-a} but I guess that there is a better measurement
 
yo'
@tush you're way to high this way. I don't know how to do it "properly", but a poor-man's version would be something like: \raisebox{-\dp\strutbox}{\includegraphics[height=\dimexpr\dp\strutbox+\ht\strutbox]{...}} (I did not test, so there's exactly zero guarantee that I got it right)
 
2:25 PM
@tush \smash{\includegraphics[height=\baselineskip]{example-image-a} } but that would cover the descender of the g above if they came at same place
@tush more common is height=\ht\strutbox so it is height without covering depth of previous line
 
 
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6:52 PM
@DavidCarlisle you are right graphics needs adaption too (my message to the team list is held up ...).
 

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