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12:35 AM
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bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
its like the system doesnt want me to get 3k rep
my rep straight up plummeting :(
oh my god i think im witnessing someone do it in real time rn
or maybe those were just random upvotes
 
1:04 AM
:( i got suspended, i have to wait 7 days before i can code golf again ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
tf
mods unsuspend this user
 
Why did you get suspended?
 
"voting fraud" probably
when in reality it's not a voting ring at all
I know this because it's a friend helping a friend out to get to 3k
 
vote fraud detection can never cause automatic suspensions BTW
 
nah i deserve it, heres what happened: My friend was bored during school and wanted to do a little trolling so he used my school account and wrote up all those posts, while i just watched on the side laughing my ass off along with him. remember that cool_noice guy from a while back? that was my friend and i all along. yeah sorry about that, we were just having a bit of fun, now i learn my lesson :(
 
1:10 AM
@lyxal We don't necessarily know the reason, but speculating about it pressures people who do know into talking about it, which is specifically why we don't allow discussing suspensions.
 
Discussing discussions is allowed if the suspended party is fine with it.
 
@RadvylfPrograms but in this case, I wasn't sure if it was my voting that had accidentally suspended aiden
 
@forest Yeah. I'd typed that and sent it before Aiden's most recent comment, and they hadn't indicated yet whether or not they wanted to discuss why the suspension happened
 
ah
 
@lyxal Yeah that's understandable, probably better to just use a mod flag or something though in the future
 
1:12 AM
I don't think mods suspend for someone else upvoting you unless they're really sure it's vote fraud.
Did you get an email or mod message @AidenChow? That might give you more information.
 
@forest i did, thats how ik the reason that i got suspended
 
@AidenChow it looks like all instances of the cool_noice user have been changed to your profile now
 
Oh, they said it was vote fraud?
 
@lyxal yeah, i really dont want that to be there, but ig it is what it is
 
luckily the posts are deleted lol
 
1:15 AM
@AidenChow I mean, you prolly should've stopped him, but y'all're like 13 IIRC so it's understandable I guess (I may or may not've been suspended once when I was 13 :p)
 
@RadvylfPrograms it was really funny when it was happening, i didnt know SE could actually track it to my main acct, tho i was certainly nervous of that happening
well, my fears have become reality, im suspended now :(
i really shouldve come clean waaaay earlier
 
So your friend upvoted you?
 
i even played it off like i didnt know cool_noice when it initially happened
 
No
@forest no this was spamming that was the offense
it wasn't voting like I thought
 
@forest uh no, my friend doesnt even have an acct
 
1:19 AM
I thought maybe I had accidentally gotten aiden suspended because of my creative(tm) voting to get them to 3k rep
 
he was using my school acct, prob how they tracked me to my main acct
 
oh
 
@lyxal lol it didnt even work, all the voting got removed anyways
i was at 2940 rep right before i was suspended
 
You'll get your rep back. Suspension doesn't remove your rep permanently.
 
it just mean i cant do anything for 7 days right
 
1:21 AM
is right
 
ugh thats really annoying, i go on code golf everyday :|
 
hey well at least you can still chat
 
wait can ppl still vote on my posts and reply to me while suspended
 
@AidenChow yes
 
that will factor into my rep after the suspension ?
 
1:24 AM
yes
 
im suspended on both main and meta or just main website?
also if i still visit the site everyday, will that count towards my consecutive day count
 
The main and meta as well.
They're tied together. And you can visit the site as much as you want. You just can't post for 7 days.
 
ok, got it. hopefully no new interesting challenge shows up while im suspended :P
 
dear gosh dark mode inverted images in uni lecture slides look creepy af
horrifying, innit
 
is there a way to delete the deleted posts forever, or is it stuck with my acct forever :((
 
1:35 AM
@AidenChow It's deleted. No one can see it but mods and people with 10k rep.
But I suppose you could ask for it to be disassociated (which deletes the name attached to it), but technically the suspension and reason will still be on your record. I'm not sure if a mod would disassociate a deleted post.
 
@forest yeah, that would be very nice if that could happen
how do i ask the mods to do that
 
Just ping @hyper-neutrino and ask him, I guess.
 
ok
@hyper-neutrino
 
You could also flag the post and request it with a custom flag reason, but that'd get a random CG mod.
 
ok ill try that too
do i raise a flag for each post or just one
 
1:38 AM
Are there many of them?
 
@forest 4
 
3 answers 1 question
 
wait you meant posts
i thought you meant number of mods sorry
 
so can it happen @hyper-neutrino
2 mins ago, by forest
But I suppose you could ask for it to be disassociated (which deletes the name attached to it), but technically the suspension and reason will still be on your record. I'm not sure if a mod would disassociate a deleted post.
 
1:40 AM
I'll escalate it for you; I do not have the power to disassociate posts. I can't guarantee when/if it'll happen; I will just forward it to a CM.
 
what is cm
 
community manager
 
Community Manager.
 
community manager (they are actual employees, unlike us)
 
They're like super mods.
 
1:41 AM
They work for SE
 
wait theres no flag option for my deleted answers
ig i cant do that then
 
Raise a flag on any of your answers and link to the posts
 
oh wait im suspended, i cant do anything
including flagging
:((((
 
@AidenChow Can you link to the questions/answers?
Or you could wait until you're unsuspended.
 
That might defeat the point of disassociating them
 
1:43 AM
I guess it depends on why he wants to disassociate.
He could link here and then me or hyper could redact the comments.
 
@AidenChow if you don't mind, can I ask why you want them disassociated? If a post is already deleted, it's all but impossible for anyone aside from you or a mod to find it, besides stumbling across it randomly.
 
oh only mods can see deleted posts? i though high rep users could see also
 
10k rep users can see them too (if they have the link).
 
We can see them, but we can't search for them, or find them from your profile
Technically, we can find them from the list of recently deleted posts in the 10k+ tools, but that would require someone going through all of the deleted posts in the last week to find them, and no one's going to do that
 
i've escalated your request back to CMs
 
1:46 AM
No one's going to use it to hold it against you.
 
It's not like 10k users or mods really care to find out who did something silly in the past.
 
well, i just dont some random troll posts to have my acct with it, even if only a certain group of ppl can see it. i really regret the trolling, but i would really want to just remove it from my acct completely
 
but yeah, don't worry about it - everyone makes mistakes and given you acknowledged your mistakes publicly when it wasn't a requirement to and understand why it was wrong, nobody's going to hold it against you. I understand your request though and have forwarded it since I can't do it myself
 
That's fair enough. Everyone makes mistakes. As soon as your suspension is over, you'll be back to normal.
@hyper-neutrino I suppose in theory you could edit it and then redact all the revisions.
Then no one could see the contents and would only know they were deleted.
 
1:48 AM
@AidenChow For the answers, you can edit the answers once you're unsuspended to be something along the lines of "Deleted answer, don't worry about this". And, as HN and forest have said, it's not a massive issue when it comes down to it, we all make mistakes
 
true, but then I'd need to get another mod to help me lol, and I don't think using redactions for this is proper use of the system
(not that we're known for using the system "properly" around here :P)
 
Heh, probably not.
 
For what its worth, as an example of how little of a "grudge" SE holds against users for, really, anything aside from continued spamming, I've been suspended 3 times before, and I'm still here :P
(I'm not suggesting people go get suspended for the fun of it, just that a suspensions doesn't mean the end of the world :P)
 
the only thing suspensions do beyond the suspension duration is you can't become a mod if you've been suspended within a year, which is not a concern for you since you can't become a mod until you're 18 years old anyway
 
never planned on being a mod in the first place :P
 
1:52 AM
@hyper-neutrino damn, just gonna age-doxx them like that :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing well, i pretty much put out my age in chat anyways lmao
 
It's in your profile as well (tho I guess you could be an 18y/o in 8th grade)
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing damn and i used to respect you smh :p
 
@user bruh, I literally mentioned I got suspended in my mod nomination :P
 
i got suspended for a year just last december in fact
 
1:55 AM
I’ve been suspended 0 times, i should be a mod
@hyper-neutrino lol
 
It's not something I hide, I was a dumb kid, I learnt my lesson and grew from it :P
 
It was personal tho (hn’s suspension)
 
@hyper-neutrino Didn't you suspend yourself? :P
 
yes that's what i'm referring to lmao
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing i know, you’ve mentioned it before too
 
1:56 AM
waiiiit, how am i gonna post lotm annoucement if im suspended ?!?!
 
@hyper-neutrino Damn, that was in December??
 
0_0
 
@AidenChow Ask someone else to do it
 
my only two suspensions are when i asked dennis to suspend me so i wouldn't be tempted to waste time on SE and could focus on school (which doesn't show up on my profile because it was on my deleted account), and when I suspended myself
@cairdcoinheringaahing ikr, time passes too quickly
 
@hyper-neutrino hehe, one of my suspensions was for the same reason (1st one) :P
 
1:56 AM
insert drugs message
 
Whoa, nuclear option on yourself
I might need that next year tbh
@hyper-neutrino do drigs kids
 
I wasted too much time on SE before my exams, nuclear option was worth it
 
Could you suspend me from chat?
 
lol tbh AP exams are coming up, i could use this suspension as an opportunity to focus more on studying :P
 
@user Me? No
@hyper-neutrino Next time that needs to be referenced, I'm posting this instead :P
 
1:58 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing me too :(. I took an exam to get credit at college yesterday that i could totally have aced with a little more studying
@cairdcoinheringaahing i was asking hn
 
@user Too bad, I say no :P
 
i don't really have issues with wasting too much time on SE anymore since I'm wasting all of my time on discord :P
 
:(
 
@user yes, it is possible
 
Cool cool
Is it possible to suspend from specific rooms?
 
2:00 AM
That's called kicking you
 
That’s only for a few minutes right?
 
it's for 1/5/30 minutes iirc?
but no it is not possible which sort of annoys me
 
@hyper-neutrino Me neither, but that's because I actually have a half-decent time management now, leaving me barely any time to interact with SE :(
 
same, i don't spend time here cuz i need the time to keep up with school :/
now that I'm going into my work term soon I should have more time but the amount I am busy with Discord is very variable so idk
 
@hyper-neutrino time to impeach HN for lack of mod work :P
smh, when was the last time you handled a flag?
 
2:02 AM
also wait what have you been doing with discord
i noticed you restructured the particle collider but isn't that pretty much only active around aoc
 
@UnrelatedString That's between HN and discord :P
 
@UnrelatedString speaking of that
 
@UnrelatedString i made the mistake of applying to a server's dev team and now i am stuck doing admin stuff and other assorted things that i doubt would interest y'all :P
 
It won't let me verify that I've read the rules of the partical collider
 
@UnrelatedString yep, only reason i'm doing stuff to it is cuz i got really bored
 
2:05 AM
yikes
 
@lyxal Yeah, same :/
 
oh yeah sorry i forgot my bot is off rn lol
 
also if you want i can introduce you to someone who is desperate to discuss discord server administration :P
 
turned it back on
i should push it and run it on my server and keep a local copy for development
 
ooh, purple
Ugh, I hate the fact that music videos on yt have ads, and that a decent number of songs just aren't on things like spotify
 
2:08 AM
what is this particle collider yall talking about ??
 
HN's discord server
 
@UnrelatedString oh? wdym by desperate :P
 
I always forget there's a CGCC discord server :/
Probably cause I have it muted
 
i am reminded every time i get pinged for codenames lol (ik it's a different server but it still reminds me)
 
as in he's spent the last like half a year constantly iterating on rules that will never see the light of day and none of us talk to him about it because it's all kinda pointless and sad
 
2:10 AM
ah. that is kinda sad yeah
 
@hyper-neutrino Play!
 
every time i've been pinged so far i've been busy, it's been pretty unlucky :P
 
@UnrelatedString has he made a server in that case or considered looking for communities he could join that are hiring moderators lol
cuz i'm sure he could find something at least
 
still find it weird that servers hire moderators
 
2:14 AM
he's the owner of a reasonably active small server and intermittently gets really weird about how it's not as active as it was a year or two ago
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing as opposed to what lol
(by hire i don't mean for money)
 
@hyper-neutrino find competent moderators in their userbase
Like what we do
Imagine if instead of an RO election, we just advertised "Hey, who wants to moderate a Stack Exchange chat room about code golf?" on various sites
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yeah that's fair enough
most servers do put their mods through a trial first. also even though we do have mod applications open almost all of our mods were people that existing mods identified as good candidates except one who has been a mod on much larger servers lol. so i guess in a way we kinda did do that just not directly
 
Imagine getting moderators through applications instead of just appointing room owners lel
 
@hyper-neutrino If they didn't put them through a trial period, I'd be shocked :P
 
2:21 AM
:P
 
@lyxal Speaking of, there was a recent suggestion to add a couple more ROs in light of the recent increase in off-topic discussion. Therefore:
CMM: What do you think, should we add more ROs? And should the ROs be elected, or just appointed by us existing ROs?
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More ROs
 
what does cmm stand for
 
Although I guess my opinion is a tiny bit biased
Only a tiny bit
 
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2:27 AM
@lyxal there totally isn't anything in Code Golf history that would bias my opinion on this matter too much
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing if more are added, definitely elected not just appointed
 
Why elected over appointed?
Not that I favor one over the other, but organising an election takes a lot longer than a quick discussion between the 4 of us + any mods
 
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I just don’t like the idea of just the 4 of you deciding instead of everyone who has a stake in tnb’s well being (not that y’all can’t be trusted)
 
I mean, it could be more of a discussion with everyone here than "yo I got the italicz so lyxal's an RO now no talking or I'll do an oppression"
We could also just go with the fifth and maybe sixth place from the last vote, but since we have some new users I'd rather not do that since it doesn't give them a fair chance
 
2:42 AM
Yeah, given that its been over a year since the last election, I'd rather a new "selection", whether that's us deciding or an election
 
5th and 6th place from last election isn’t a great idea imo ^
 
@user mwah hah hah
 
Especially since 6 is me
 
@user very humble of you
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Actually, thinking about it, I'm not immediately sure who I'd appoint
 
2:43 AM
I'm cool with either an election, or a semi-informal discussion followed by appointing some users. CGCC seems to like democracy so I'm guessing an election is probably going to be the result, although I'd rather it just be the second to make things easier lol
 
all of you are degenerates
 
Yeah
But who’s the least degenerate degenerate?
 
NSP and NP?
 
I'm not sure who wants to be appointed, but any of lyxal, user, emanresu, Unrelated String, etc. would be fine with me
 
...yeah
 
2:44 AM
Pxeger too
 
Oh yeah
Actually, y'know what, NP/SP for RO. That's my vote :p
 
mmm yes unilateral Radvylf decisions ;p
 
i'd be a fucking terrible ro (read: would never do anything) but yeah come to think of it my vote would probably go to pxeger
 
@RadvylfPrograms That's another thing about elections: if someone doesn't want to be RO, they just don't stand. We don't have to go through choosing them, offering it and getting rejected
 
@UnrelatedString same
 
2:45 AM
how many positions avaliable?
 
I think it'd be nice if we had an RO who was pretty active and from a non-US/UK timezone, so if we went with the discussion/appointment route, lyxal or emanresu would probably be my top choice
 
I won't say who, in case we do have an election and someone wants to use me as an endorsement, but I have 2 or 3 users who I'd prefer
 
2 more would be nice
 
@lyxal 2, maybe 3, depending on time coverage
 
@UnrelatedString I mean, I barely do anything either. All you have to do is just occasionally glance at the starboard, or sometimes do simple tasks people ping you to do, like add an event.
 
2:47 AM
Ok, I just want to clarify: is allxy a sock of emanresu?
 
ROs are practically a symbolic role
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yeah
 
see, i have a terrible sense of what should be on starboard
 
They use the sock for security reasons
 
We're mainly there when needed, not when wanted :P
 
Since they don't want to log in as emanresu on their school computer, IIRC
 
2:47 AM
as evidenced by being the only one to star this
 
and I'm fine with the allxy sock using that name
 
I'm not fine with appointing a sock as RO
 
I've changed my alt to no longer use that username
so any allxy is emanresuA
 
and an ro who uses a sock a ton of the time is also incapacitated as an ro while on that sock
 
If emanresu was elected, I'm only appointing emanresu, and that's the only account they should be ROing from
 
2:48 AM
and having both accounts as ros would just be :///
 
@UnrelatedString That's a good point
Yeah if the whole point of the allxy account is that it's disposable if it gets compromised, making it an RO is a bad idea anyway
 
Hmm, neither emanresu nor allxy are pingable
 
because they're camping rn
 
been offline for a week
 
2:50 AM
imagine not reading canvas pins
 
wait what that room is still a thing? i thought r/place ended quite a while ago
 
r/place did
canvas is its own thing now
 
emanresu and radvylf set up a semi-clone for community use
 
@RadvylfPrograms someone suggested last time that all 10k rep users become ros. That’s a bit much, but i think you could make basically every active and maturish user here an ro if they ask for it
 
it's on its third iteration
 
2:51 AM
Regardless: I'll leave the pin up for a week or so, then, if we want an election, I'll start a meta thread for nominations a bit after that. If we want a chat election/apppointment from us ROs, then updates will come shortly after
 
@lyxal man how was i not aware of this lol
 
good question
 
too much wordle probably
 
i think there was actually a pin in here about it for a bit
 
there done do was
 
2:53 AM
I would be fine with appointing lyxal as an RO, if we do appointing. Lyxal was almost tied with me in the last RO election, and was even winning for quite some time, and as much as I complain about the one or two incidents a year or two ago, I believe lyxal would be a competent RO. Plus, in the same way that Adám's trusted to be an RO because of the APL orchard, Vyxal's another large room on the site and lyxal's RO'd that for a while. And lyxal's also super active and in a non-US/UK timezone.
 
@user The thing is, ROs can have fairly effectual powers if used right. We generally don't use our powers, because this room (mostly) moderates itself, but if someone wanted to, they could easily abuse them
 
If basically everyone were an ro then we’d always have someone around to clear stars and stuff
 
One major thing: ROs can remove other ROs
 
@UnrelatedString even worse, i look at the starboard all the time -_-
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing ah true
 
2:53 AM
ROs could also rename TNB
 
you may have glanced over it because it's hosted as a subdomain of rto
 
Or timeout the room for a while until a mod checks in
 
I can't remember the name of the room, but when the election was going on, we had a room for people to test RO powers, and lyxal took that over immediately and installed himself dictator
While that was kinda funny as a testing room, if someone wanted to, they could cripple TNB that way
 
I assume none of the vetted ros would do that but someone else might use their account to do naughty things ig
 
@user Reputation isn't a great indicator of maturity :P
 
2:55 AM
and that's why we want our ros to be somewhat vetted :P
 
Yeah, I got my main sock (GFS) to 500 rep pretty easily, 10k would take some dedication but not overly much, especially if you made a simple golfing language and consistently FGITW'd with it
 
Plus deadliness bounties
+300 for 5 vyxal answers, +whoever knows how much for APL
 
Back when I used deleted accounts, I manged to get one account to about 2-2.5k no problem
 
@RadvylfPrograms speaking of the vyxal room, literally everyone there is an ro
 
man how does gaining rep that fast come so easy for u guys :|
 
2:57 AM
It doesn't :p
 
@RadvylfPrograms Time for me to rename TNB the "Losers hangout" get recked all of y'all (⌐■_■)
@AidenChow If you know how to get rep, you can get it quickly
 
Dammit I just VTRO'd a question which I had pulled up in a new tab from the VTRO queue, then I couldn't do anything but skip it in the queue >:|
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, i was thinking instead of 10k rep you look at review queues and stuff
 
and then kick yourself?
 
@RadvylfPrograms gotta love accountability through interdependent optics/public perception of another project
 
2:57 AM
how would you make a judgement off review queues
 
the abuse an RO could commit is probably much less than the loss to them
 
More reviews -> more moddy
 
^^
@hyper-neutrino this is very true
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing let me in on the secrets, i feel like im gaining rep way slower than everyone else :P
 
that's something I find acts as a reasonable measure of security - the amount of trouble an RO could cause us is a lot less than the amount of trouble we could cause them should they intentionally try to commit abuse, and to be honest, I have very little suspicion any of you would intentionally cause harm; at worst you'd be ineffective ROs
 
2:59 AM
@AidenChow Biggest trick to gaining rep: have a lot of rep :/
 
@hyper-neutrino for example, 1 day of epic trolling for years worth of scorn on Vyxal ain't worth it
 
But seriously: if you want to gain rep, post a challenge every 3 days, and an answer every day you don't post a challenge
 

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