Vyxal

12:05 AM

tbh the only minor issue i have with vyxal is flags and my opinion on that is sort of just "these feel cheat-y but i still stand by the current policy to let them exist and cost nothing"

anything else is just unfamiliarity and it's overall pretty well designed and decently executed

less so the latter but that's what the rewrite is for :P

user

^

One problem I have with the Vyxal community is that it has now turned me into a baka who regularly uses "sus" online and very nearly embarrassed itself by using it irl

hyper-neutrino

hmmm

user

@hyper-neutrino Your bot's looking kinda sus, looks like someone already ejected it

hyper-neutrino

!!/status

Vyxal Bot

@hyper-neutrino I am doing excellently.

hyper-neutrino

12:14 AM

no you're not idiot

user

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Niko

12:33 AM

vaccine time for me

kinda scary tho

:P

any vyxal helps

lyxal

12:47 AM

@Niko have you ever run lyxal on the online interpreter?

Niko

you know the rule and so do i

@hyper-neutrino one day there will be hundreds of flags and flag chaining everywhere

emanresu A

2:56 AM

@lyxal You realise Aaron's trick still works?

lyxal

only the arbitrary number part

B and b are gone

emanresu A

That was quiite clever.

Why'd you remove space, newliine does exactly the same thing :p

lyxal

?

emanresu A

Ok, I just realised what you've done.

lyxal

I thought I left space

emanresu A

2:59 AM

You've found a dictionary word whose compressed form contains some of the remaining characters, and eval'd it.

It must start with C, but I can't figure out where to go from there...

lyxal

@emanresuA did I actually accidentally ban space?

because I didn't mean to

oh

oh you meant ` `

I thought you meant ð

emanresu A

Yes

I meant #1

lyxal

probably a typo

eh

emanresu A

No comment on my previous one, eh?

lyxal

not really - I already had a preplanned solution ready

as I stated, I had 3 solutions planned

2 of them worked

the 3rd is what you're trying to get

emanresu A

3:02 AM

"Cheaper"

...

Aka ‛§ε

dang it

Oh wait no... the a nukes it all, dammit.

Or... what?

How?

lyxal

that's for you to determine

emanresu A

3:05 AM

I feel like those two messages were trolling me...

lyxal

I swear they weren't

emanresu A

Why is mysql in Vyxal's dictionary?

lyxal

google probably

emanresu A

Or... Constant works, but a bunch of stuff is dumped on the stack and I can't figure out how to nuke it.

Wait no, it errors because nst

lyxal

@emanresuA the dictionary is based on a 10k word list from Google with bad words removed, titlecase versions of words added, plus a few thousand (or maybe less idk) three letter combinations that follow a certain pattern (like no letter repeated three times, at least one vowel, etc)

emanresu A

3:10 AM

Oh.

lyxal

the three letter combos are all lowercase btw

I used vyxal to autogen them

@count_vowels:1|(`aeiouy`nc)W∑;
`aeiouwrtypsdfghlcbnm`3↔vṅ
'@count_vowels; 0 >
 n @count_vowels; 3≠∧
 nĠvL2c¬∧
 nC¯≈¬∧
 nøDL4≠∧;L

that's the generation program I used

so the rules are that they need to have at least 1 vowel, need to not have 3 vowels, not have any letters repeated twice, and not be consecutive

Idk what that last condition is

emanresu A

Evaluating a dictionary-compressed word is a very clever and language-abusive trick.

lyxal

ah okay the last condition is that it isn't already in the dictionary

emanresu A

In terms of the language spec, I've found a solution. In terms of the implementation, I haven't.

lyxal

lol

emanresu A

3:22 AM

Ok, uuεuεuεuεuε‛§εḭ for C, and the rest comes together.

Now to make a generator.

Very nice idea.

No concatenation... I seriously have to flatprint the whole thing???

lyxal

:)

emanresu A

The reason I noticed / thought of that was because you unbanned ‛ and I thought, hmmm, why could that be?

Oh wait no, I can just eval W∑ at the end.

lyxal

lol

you never looked at how I printed everything?

W∑ was at the end of all of my cracks

followed by however I got the comma and a double eval

emanresu A

3:51 AM

Victory!!!

0

A: Print X without X (robber's thread)

Vyxal, 1606416 bytes, cracks lyxal's answer Sample: εuεuεuεuuεuεuεuεuε\‛§εḭĖuuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuεuuεuεuεuεuε\‛§εḭĖĖuuε Full code Generator p...

lyxal

46 mins ago, by emanresu A

I feel like those two messages were trolling me...

Okay yeah fine they were

We do a little trolling

emanresu A

46 mins ago, by lyxal

I swear they weren't

And the moral is, don't trust Lyxal.

pVC aecidiospore adduced

!!/run lyxal

Vyxal Bot

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Official Music Video)

►

pVC aecidiospore adduced

did rick change the thumbnail?

lyxal

3:54 AM

0

A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

Vyxal, score 232 ḟṙIcKġ₴…‹›+*/-d↵Ǎ½ƒɖø∆₈₇∞₆₄JpiẎȯht42069ḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İNeVERgȮṄnaGḭ⟇ėyOU⊍⇩Ż÷«»⌐m≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩‟„$∇_Ǐq꘍₍₌Π⁺βτʀʁɾɽ¨żẏ?¹⁰²ǔǓǒǑǐǎꜝ₂₃₅&ẇŀl↑↓∴∵¢`;¥£¾F¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤Ḋε€ZȧṗṖ¦†A↲↳⋏⋎⁋×λ√⌈⌊:Dbjvwxz,BHMQSTWXY)}]([{<>ḂĊḞĿṀṠẆẊ℅@°•ß↔æƈ§≈µ¯±≠⁼≥≤=ḃ∩s∪ĠṁȦ'ċḋṅ13578 We do a little trolling.

Niko

i think so

emanresu A

Great.

Niko

what happen if run a yvxal spam program here with !!/run

lyxal

@emanresuA now with more memes

Niko

you should change the u with the p

so we have complete sentence

lyxal

3:57 AM

I did

Niko

wait wha

lyxal

I originally had it there, but I ran U on the string

Niko

isnt it pu currently :p

lyxal

I made a little edit

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@Niko do it

Niko

3:58 AM

hmmm

pVC aecidiospore adduced

when you scream vyxal: vyxaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal come back here

!!/make velociraptors maul Vyxaaaal come back here

Vyxal Bot

                                                               YOU CAN RUN, BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE, vyxaaaal come back here
                                                     ___._
                                                   .'  <0>'-.._
                                                  /  /.--.____")
                                                 |   \   __.-'~
                                                 |  :  -'/
                                                /:.  :.-'
__________                                     | : '. |

Niko

!!/run 10(1)W

Vyxal Bot

@Niko Did you forget to put backticks around your code (`code`)? Remember to escape any backticks in your code (to type `hi`, enter `\`hi\``).

Niko

!!/run 10(1)W

Vyxal Bot

4:04 AM

@Niko ⟨1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1⟩

Niko

!!/run 10(`\n`)W

Vyxal Bot

[@Niko: 59246816]
⟨`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`|`
`⟩

Niko

OwO

pVC aecidiospore adduced

!!/run it actually goes to the online interpreter

Vyxal Bot

[@pVCaecidiosporeadduced: 59246841]
0

STDERR:
object of type 'int' has no len()
Most recently popped arguments: [0, 0]
Final stack: []

pVC aecidiospore adduced

4:10 AM

!!/run ⟨1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1⟩ARGHW

Vyxal Bot

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced ⟨0|1⟩

pVC aecidiospore adduced

what

Aaron Miller

4:55 AM

bruh that sucked

lyxal

@AaronMiller yes

Aaron Miller

many yes

hyper-neutrino

~~isn't this off-topic for vyxal~~ oh wait what is "topic"

Aaron Miller

@lyxal it's 1 in the morning, so ill try it tomorrow

hyper-neutrino

is that just the deltarune 1 jevil fight or is this from ch 2

world revolving is a fun song to play

Aaron Miller

4:58 AM

ch 1

I've beat **** like 3 times, but this was so much worse, because there's no predicting it

****?

hover for spoiler ?

^

ah

why the spoiler?

Aaron Miller

not everyone knows about it, and i didn't want to spoil it

there's nothing like the very first time you go into that fight

lyxal

5:03 AM

anyhow, does that you'll be moving onto ch 2 now?

Aaron Miller

pretty soon, i just need to go do the last boss

hyper-neutrino

is deltarune a sequel to undertale or are they disjoint?

wait toriel shows up in both so they can't be fully disconnected

lyxal

disjoint

Aaron Miller

@AaronMiller well, after I solve Rouxls Kaard's dastardly Ultimate Puzzle

lyxal

two different stories

different timelines

similar characters

hyper-neutrino

5:05 AM

ah

also the deltarune fight theme s l a p s

lyxal

it's very rude

Aaron Miller

From the FAQ:

> How does this game relate to UNDERTALE? Is it a sequel?

Please don't worry too much about that.
Essentially, this is not the world of UNDERTALE.
If you completed UNDERTALE, the ending and world are as you left it.
If everyone was happy there, the people in the UNDERTALE world will still be happy.
So, please don't worry about those characters, and that world. It will remain untouched.

To rephrase that, DELTARUNE's world is a different one.
With different characters, that have lived different lives.

lyxal

^

hyper-neutrino

ah

did toby fox himself compose the music too

lyxal

I think so

hyper-neutrino

5:07 AM

nice

Aaron Miller

> If everyone was happy there

Me, who did 3 genocide routes: *sweats nervously*

hyper-neutrino

lol

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino most of the tracks on spotify list him as the sole composer

hyper-neutrino

ah, okay

apparently he started out composing music for the homestuck webcomic

i remember reading this before; guess i just forgor

lyxal

Deltarune ch2 is one big memey fever dream

Aaron Miller

5:08 AM

the Rouxls Kaard puzzle music also slaps

lyxal

It was funny how after only a few days there were plenty of memes of ch2

Aaron Miller

emanresu A making "print X without X" cops: That wasn't'st really mine ultimate puzzle! I have a way'st better one right... here!

lyxal

*trivially pushes bytes*

Aaron Miller

GOD

DAMN IT

emanresu A

6:23 AM

@AaronMiller Idea: ‛∧∑ (Big) will index a binary list into a string...

And ‛∨∑ (July) merges two lists, but dumps stuff on the stack

emanresu A

6:45 AM

Wait no, it doesnt

Merging two lists is the missing link in my solution.

emanresu A

7:46 AM

Ok, I've possibly figured it out.

It really depends.

emanresu A

7:56 AM

Ok, I can get arbitrary characters, but the cost is exponential.

171798691832 bytes for a C

lyxal

oh

that's a lot

emanresu A

I am making this code-bowling

Vyxal Bot

@PaxDaga Welcome to the Vyxal chat room! Type !!/help for my list of commands, and !!/info for info about Vyxal!

hyper-neutrino

must've followed from trash

lyxal

this says a lot about society

Vyxal Bot

8:09 AM

@user106346 Welcome to the Vyxal chat room! Type !!/help for my list of commands, and !!/info for info about Vyxal!

hyper-neutrino

@user106346

ok cool so i can do that

emanresu A

8:26 AM

@hyper-neutrino gobackto sleep;

hyper-neutrino

back? it's not like i just woke up

emanresu A

You usually wake up in a couple of hours...

@lyxal

0

A: Print X without X (robber's thread)

Vyxal, 9942694705621871183448638796 bytes, cracks lyxal's answer Sample: kPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPkPkPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑ĖokPL‛∧∑Ė Try it Online! This is a purely theoretical program, as there ...

hyper-neutrino

this is getting out of hand xD

lyxal

8:42 AM

@emanresuA

1

A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

Vyxal D, score 232 ḟṙIcKġ₴…‹›+*/-d↵Ǎ½ƒɖø∆₈₇∞₆₄JiẎȯht42069ḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İNeVERgȮṄnaGḭ⟇ėyOU⊍p⇩Ż÷«»⌐m≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩‟„$∇_Ǐq꘍₍₌Π⁺βτʀʁɾɽ¨żẏ?¹⁰²ǔǓǒǑǐǎꜝ₂₃₅&ẇŀl↑↓∴∵¢`;¥£¾F¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤Ḋε€ZȧṗṖ¦†A↲↳⋏⋎⁋×λ√⌈⌊:Dbjvwxz,BHMQSTWXY)}]([{<>ḂĊḞĿṀṠẆẊ℅@°•ß↔æƈ§≈µ¯±≠⁼≥≤=ḃ∩s∪ĠṁȦ'ċḋṅ13578 Now do it without string decompression.

emanresu A

What hyper said.

Aaron Miller

12:47 PM

@lyxal Having less commands available means it will be easier. In fact, I could probably just brute force the required program. /s

Aaron Miller

1:04 PM

huh, that's interesting. k‛a is interpreted as ka, with the ‛ being discarded, k‛aa is interpreted as ‛aa, with the k being discarded, and k‛aaa is interpreted as ‛aaka, with the aa going before the abcdef...

!!/run k‛a W

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller ⟨`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz`⟩

!!/run k‛aa W

@AaronMiller ⟨`aa`⟩

!!/run k‛aaa W

@AaronMiller ⟨`aa`|`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz`⟩

Aaron Miller

1:15 PM

!!/issue Strings error on newlines with `D` flag Normally, the string literals allow you to put in a newline. However, when trying to include a newline in a string with the `D` flag, it throws an error "EOL while scanning string literal," which shouldn't happen. Example: Try it Online! bug on hold

Vyxal Bot

Vyxal-Bot opened issue #253 in Vyxal/Vyxal: Strings error on newlines with `D` flag

Aaron Miller

→ 5 whoopsies moved to Trash

lyxal

1:46 PM

@AaronMiller haha sh*tty programming ftw /s

pVC aecidiospore adduced

1:58 PM

!!/run 1:£

Vyxal Bot

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced 1

pVC aecidiospore adduced

!!/run 《11|11》

Vyxal Bot

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced 11

pVC aecidiospore adduced

wat

!!/run 1 2÷

Vyxal Bot

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced 2

pVC aecidiospore adduced

1:59 PM

!!/run °•.

Vyxal Bot

[@pVCaecidiosporeadduced: 59250486]
0

STDERR:
invalid character in identifier (<string>, line 2)
Most recently popped arguments: []
Final stack: []

Aaron Miller

2:33 PM

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced The 《》 isn't in the Vyxal codepage (you probably meant ⟨⟩), so they don't do anything. Since it's not in a structure, the | doesn't do anything either, so that just pushed 11 twice:

!!/run 《11|11》 W

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller ⟨11|11⟩

Aaron Miller

@lyxal hey, maybe once the rewrite is done we'll finally be able to make an illegal string in Vyxal!

pVC aecidiospore adduced

3:17 PM

!!/run zebra

Vyxal Bot

[@pVCaecidiosporeadduced: 59251247]
0

STDERR:
maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object
Most recently popped arguments: [[], 0]
Final stack: []

pVC aecidiospore adduced

!!/run antelope

Vyxal Bot

[@pVCaecidiosporeadduced: 59251261]
0

STDERR:
maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object
Most recently popped arguments: ['00', 0]
Final stack: []

Aaron Miller

!!/run 0 `lol` e

Vyxal Bot

[@AaronMiller: 59251284]
0

STDERR:
maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object
Most recently popped arguments: ['lol', 0]
Final stack: []

Aaron Miller

3:23 PM

!!/run `lol` 0 e

Vyxal Bot

[@AaronMiller: 59251286]
0

STDERR:
slice step cannot be zero
Most recently popped arguments: [0, 'lol']
Final stack: []

Aaron Miller

3:46 PM

!!/issue `∷` breaks on odd-length strings When used on a string, the `∷` command returns the last half of the string. However, when the string has an odd length, it only returns the last character. Example: Try it Online! bug on hold

Vyxal Bot

Vyxal-Bot opened issue #254 in Vyxal/Vyxal: `∷` breaks on odd-length strings

Aaron Miller

!!/run `Hmm, this doesn't seem quite right.`∷

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller .

hyper-neutrino

"∷": ("vy_globals.stack.append(modulo(pop(vy_globals.stack), 2))", 1),

in modulo: (str, Number): lambda: divide(lhs, rhs)[-1],

in divide: (str, Number): lambda: wrap(lhs, len(lhs) // rhs),

my guess is wrapping is returning the whole string for some reason

and so since modulo takes its [-1] it just gets the last char

Aaron Miller

i think i figured it out:

!!/run `string` 2 /

Vyxal Bot

3:54 PM

@AaronMiller ⟨`str`|`ing`⟩

Aaron Miller

∷ gets the last element of that ^

but with an odd-length string:

!!/run `stringy` 2 /

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller ⟨`str`|`ing`|`y`⟩

Aaron Miller

it gets the last element of that ^

which is the last character

on strings, ∷ is a shortcut for 2%, which is a shortcut for 2/t

Vyxal Bot

4:17 PM

@Prithubiswas Welcome to the Vyxal chat room! Type !!/help for my list of commands, and !!/info for info about Vyxal!

hyper-neutrino

TBH i should just turn that off

Aaron Miller

7:53 PM

!!/issue The `K` flag doesn't work on lists of strings Normally, the `K` flag will convert a string input into a list of ASCII codes, but it doesn't work when the input is a list of strings. Example: Try it Online! bug on hold

Vyxal Bot

Vyxal-Bot opened issue #255 in Vyxal/Vyxal: The `K` flag doesn't work on lists of strings

Aaron Miller

!!/issue The `K` flag doesn't work for certain explicit inputs *Possibly related to #255.* For implicit input, or input taken with `?`, the `K` flag converts strings to a list of ASCII codes, but it doesn't work for `¹ ⁰ □`. Example: Try it Online! bug on hold

Vyxal Bot

Vyxal-Bot opened issue #256 in Vyxal/Vyxal: The `K` flag doesn't work for certain explicit inputs

Aaron Miller

8:18 PM

@lyxal I just realized I forgot to work on the CnR today; I got distracted by issues.

!!/issue `e` doesn't work for (number, string) The documentation for the `e` command says that the arguments are interchangeable for `(string, number)`. However, when passing `(number, string)`, it errors, since that case is not programmed for the command. Example: Try it Online! bug on hold

Vyxal Bot

Vyxal-Bot opened issue #258 in Vyxal/Vyxal: `e` doesn't work for (number, string)

Aaron Miller

→ why do I keep doing this moved to Trash

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