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2:54 AM
Ugh.. And I bet you have a crack planned for what I preemptively block after that...
Ok, the lists were actually what I intended for arbitrary numbers, so I'll leave that, but you still haven't found my method of indexing...
Much less clever than the lengths you've gone to :p
Waiit no
I just came up with an even more complicated and contrived method of creating arbitrary numbers
Have fun!
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A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

emanresu AVyxal O, score 90 ,₴…‹›⟇+*/-d↵EǍ½ƒɖ1234567890ø∆e₈₇∞₆₄JpiẎȯhtḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İN⇩Ż÷«»`;¥£¾¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤ȦFȧ⌐m⊍g≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩ This is difficult...

 
3:43 AM
@emanresuA I planned a few ways beforehand
so ez
 
How have you got around my removal of lists?
(Which was what I intended originally, but I found something much more annoying, convoluted and painful to generate)
 
× followed by lots of Ǐ
and then L
 
Oh, Ǐ...
I'll get rid of that next time, and anything else I can find that allows arbitrary string extension...
 
this challenge is being singlehandedly kept alive by you
 
I only have... 21 answers...
 
3:48 AM
lol
(also there was another answerer just yesterday so like, not really)
 
kA√y$-y_y_y_ for C
 
Dammit, y
I gave you too much control over the stack, I'm taking away _, $, shiifting and rot.
 
oh no oh frick
 
inb4 we end up proving vyxal is TC with only one command /s
 
@emanresuA crscke
 
3:58 AM
crscke
 
yes
crskce
@hyper-neutrino it makes for easy rep farming
 
yeah that's why i haven't upvoted any of them lol
 
Poor WW
 
lol
 
 
2 hours later…
5:56 AM
suggest: add print \b thingy
backspace on output
 
6:25 AM
You mean an element to remove a byte of output?
That could be a good idea
 
6:47 AM
yes
 
 
1 hour later…
8:00 AM
@lyxal example use case?
for making progress bars?
 
8:17 AM
I don't have any ideas at this time
 
@emanresuA where next round?
I really hope too much stack control stuff isn't banned, because otherwise I'll be in big trouble
 
8:37 AM
Oh, I'm banning everything stack control-related
Also, can you fix your answer (- is no)
@emanresuA Except maybe :
 
@emanresuA that was a typo
It was supposed to be _
 
O
Removal list: ‟„$∇_yǏ
 
8:54 AM
Vecause I know you're going to find various holes, I preemptively banned more stuff
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A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

emanresu AVyxal O, score 105 ,₴…‹›⟇+*/-d↵EǍ½ƒɖ1234567890ø∆e₈₇∞₆₄JpiẎȯhtḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İN⇩Ż÷«»`;¥£¾¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤ȦFȧ⌐m⊍g≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩‟„$∇_yǏṘRq꘍₍₌Π⁺ Just when you thought it wasn't hard enough already...

Have fun!
I kinda want to try cracking one of these, if you want to post one yourself...
 
Wow you actually fell for that
18 mins ago, by lyxal
I really hope too much stack control stuff isn't banned, because otherwise I'll be in big trouble
We do a little trolling
 
That's not all I banned tho
 
My planned solution has nothing to do with stack manipulation
 
And I just realised my ban on ; iis useless because closing brackets are match-all
 
Lol I didn't even realise that
 
8:56 AM
ƛ...) :p
 
‛VVLkAτ for C
 
Yes! You finally figured it out!
That's what I intended all along...
 
Aw.
Dang.
That's boring
I'm not using it now
 
You almost never use those builtins (codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/235199/…), so I figured you'd try something else :p
How do you get arbitrary numbers then?
 
@emanresuA kA‛ABo↓ǐ for C
 
8:59 AM
and are the weirdest and most useless elements
 
@emanresuA ʀ and L
 
Oh. That's clever.
 
@emanresuA here's me planning out a whole bunch of methods when I had it all along
 
Oh well :p
The next round has score 125, so good luck!
I'll post it once you've made your solution.
 
@emanresuA after that, do you want to swap roles?
 
9:12 AM
Sure. It's getting kinda boring being stricter and stricter...
 
I might use some of your rounds for a bit
 
Wdym?
 
Because chances are I'll have a few left over solutions
@emanresuA as in, your strings
 
Oh, I see, extending off mine.
 
Because I have several methods planned out to crack yours that probably won't be used
 
9:13 AM
Sure, although I have a couple of ideas as well ;}
 
@emanresuA very good
We'll probably start tomorrow because I won't be able to generate my answer for a few hours
So go ahead and post the score 125 one
I'll attempt both tonight and post your first challenge after
 
Ok.
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A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

emanresu AVyxal O, score 125 ,₴…‹›⟇+*/-d↵EǍ½ƒɖ1234567890ø∆e₈₇∞₆₄JpiẎȯhtḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İN⇩Ż÷«»`;¥£¾¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤ȦFȧ⌐m⊍g≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩‟„$∇_yǏṘRq꘍₍₌Π⁺ʀ↑↓G↲↳⋏⋎Ṅ⁋ð×‛√²⌈⌊:ḊD The last one, for now.

Let's see how many items we can get in WW's inbox!
Do you want me to generate the first answer?
Well, here's a generator program for #1 -
https://lyxal.pythonanywhere.com?flags=D&code=%C6%9BC%E2%80%B9%60%CA%80L%60*%60%C3%97L%60p%60kA%5C%E2%80%9BABo%E2%86%93%C7%90%C4%96%60%2B%3B%E2%88%91%60W%E2%88%91%C3%97L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80L%CA%80LkA%5C%E2%80%9BABo%E2%86%93%C7%90%C4%96%C4%96%60%2B%5C%5Co&inputs=%2C%E2%82%B4%E2%80%A6%E2%80%B9%E2%80%BA%E2%9F%87%2B*%2F-d%E2%8
 
9:35 AM
Turns out I have planned solutions that crack both your answers
 
Good job
How many?
 
Well I had 3 and 2 of them work
The other one is what I'll base some rounds on
 
Cool! This is going to be fun :)
Whiich one did you find the hardest?
 
10:03 AM
'night
 
 
2 hours later…
12:26 PM
yesterday, by Aaron Miller
@emanresuA bruh why u always do a bunch of cops when I ain’t around
 
@AaronMiller did you finish playing deltarune ch2?
 
not yet i was building a gold farm over the weekend
 
lol
 
I'm probably going to play some more later today though
 
do you agree that it feels like a real fever dream at times?
 
12:33 PM
lol I'm just about finished replaying ch 1, i haven't even started ch 2
 
well imo it's an absolute fever dream
admittedly, I was playing at 10pm at night
 
lol i can't wait
 
it's amazing
 
 
1 hour later…
1:36 PM
I have a solution for emanresu's last cop, but my browser crashes whenever I run the generator. :/
 
lol
I'm currently working on a cop
 
@lyxal by my calculations, my solution to the cop outgolfs yours by about 1MB
I'd tell you what it is, but you might block it with your cop
 
hang on lemme onebox that
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A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

lyxalVyxal, score 159 ,₴…‹›⟇+*/-d↵EǍ½ƒɖ1234567890ø∆e₈₇∞₆₄JpiẎȯhtḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İN⇩Ż÷«»`;¥£¾¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤ȦFȧ⌐m⊍g≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩‟„$∇_yǏRq꘍₍₌Π⁺βτʀʁɾɽ¨żẏ?¹⁰²ǔǓǒǑǐǎꜝ₂₃₅&ẇŀl↑↓∴∵O¢ṙṗṖ¦†AVG↲↳⋏⋎Ṅ⁋×λ√⌈⌊:ḊD My turn.

Welp I'm oging to sleep
 
2:21 PM
@lyxal I've already got the arbitrary number generation, since that wasn't blocked at all, but I've spent the last 30 minutes trying to figure out how to get a C, since you blocked my method.
 
 
3 hours later…
5:29 PM
@lyxal Well, I've got a solution that I've calculated to be 1318172 bytes, now I just have to write the generator for it and I'll post it
 
 
1 hour later…
6:39 PM
@AaronMiller Aw, can you leave the next one for me?
 
7:26 PM
sure :)
 
 
4 hours later…
11:19 PM
(oneboxing)
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A: Print X without X (cop's thread)

lyxalVyxal, score 220 ,₴…‹›⟇+*/-d↵EǍ½ƒɖ1234567890ø∆e₈₇∞₆₄JpiẎȯhtḢṪḣṫ¡Þ₀₁C!¬⇧İN⇩Ż÷«»`;¥£¾¼⅛%→←"ẋ¤ȦFȧ⌐m⊍g≬\ṡ∷‡⁽⟨|⟩‟„$∇_yǏRq꘍₍₌Π⁺βτʀʁɾɽ¨żẏ?¹⁰²ǔǓǒǑǐǎꜝ₂₃₅&ẇŀl↑↓∴∵O¢ṙṗṖ¦†AVG↲↳⋏⋎Ṅ⁋×λ√⌈⌊:ḊDabcjnsvwxzBHIKMQSTUWXYZ)}]([{<>ḂĊḞĠĿṀȮṠẆẊ℅@°•ß€↔æƈ ¯±≠⁼≥≤=ḃ∩∪ More.

@AaronMiller ^ if you want to have a look
 
11:56 PM
in The Nineteenth Byte, 9 mins ago, by caird coinheringaahing
For all the hate it gets, vyxal (ignoring the flags) is a pretty well designed golfing lang. There are bits I think are poorly designed, and could do with improving, and there are bits I actively dislike, but overall, vyxal's really not that bad
in The Nineteenth Byte, 8 mins ago, by caird coinheringaahing
Vyxal is truly the rickroll of golfing languages, in that it's become a meme, but if you actually spend some time with it, it's not bad
:)
 
@user I'm fine with this, because I agree there are parts that can be improved
Hence the experimental branch
 
Of course, always room for improvement
I'm happy that caird conceded that Vyxal is a good language
 
Same
 

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