Vyxal

user

00:57

No iirc

lyxal

I'll add it

lyxal

04:50

@hyper-neutrino Elements, structures and modifiers

that's for v2

replace modifiers with transformers for vE

hyper-neutrino

where does syntax fit into that

like literals for strings, numbers, lists, etc.

lyxal

strings/numbers/lists are considered structures

hyper-neutrino

also how do lists work exactly? do they have to be literals, or does it just run several elements with an empty stack and concatenate the results

@lyxal ah okay

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino the latter

heh, you can have defined functions inside lists

you can have anything really

hyper-neutrino

@VyxalBot run `xd`

lyxal

04:52

Try it Online!

⟨₁ƛ₍₃₅kF½*∑∴;|@hey_wait_a_minute:1|69*; 12 @hey_wait_a_minute;⟩

fizzbuzz and a defined function inside a list

cursed as anything

but eh

hyper-neutrino

wtf lol

that's cool

lyxal

it's actually easier to parse too

because I don't have to check each value

hyper-neutrino

yeah

is there any way to inline a literal list without needing the surrounding brackets?

also does the list structure produce a list or a gen

lyxal

list

@hyper-neutrino W or value value" value J value J value J

hyper-neutrino

oh right i'm dumb

stack based language doesn't need nilads/consts to be one element lmao

Unrelated String

05:08

lol

lyxal

kekw

A username

07:21

@lyxal Bug: ‛ in sccs errors

lyxal

@Ausername odd. I'll look into it

But I suggest you raise an issue on the repo

And tag it appropriately

@Ausername This seems like a 2.5.x+ issue, so tag it as so

hyper-neutrino

hmmm

for character in source:
    if type(character) is list:
        if flux_string[0]:
            flux_string[1] += character
        else:
            components.append(character)

flux_string[1] is a string

(github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/blob/…)

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino Yes

Because flux_string is a list

hyper-neutrino

is this meant to be flux_string[1] += "".join(character)?

lyxal

No

hyper-neutrino

07:31

also why would character even be a list

lyxal

Because strings are grouped as lists

Bubbler

Mixed types D:

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino if anything, it should be += character[0]

hyper-neutrino

`@Hy∧‛NeꜝṘ⋏⇩ ÷… λǐ!`
'`'
'@'
'H'
'y'
'∧'
['Ne', '`']

tf?

do you have a two-char literal syntax that you're not parsing properly

lyxal

Depends

Which function is that returned from?

hyper-neutrino

07:35

i just inserted a print into group_strings

lyxal

Where?

hyper-neutrino

at line 157 print(character) (github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/blob/…)

lyxal

Oh then it's perfectly fine

It's behaving as expected

hyper-neutrino

oh, okay

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino it's supposed to parse like that

2 mins ago, by lyxal

@hyper-neutrino if anything, it should be += character[0]

hyper-neutrino

07:37

['`', '@', 'H', 'y', '∧', ['Ne', '`'], 'ꜝ', 'Ṙ', '⋏', '⇩', ' ', '÷', '…', ' ', 'λ', 'ǐ', '!', '`']

this is what the full source is

lyxal

Where's that from?

hyper-neutrino

inserted print(source) at line 156

lyxal

(which function)

@hyper-neutrino once again, as expected

hyper-neutrino

← 36 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

hm, okay

so what's the expected result then?

lyxal

Golly, stop making me think everything is on fire

hyper-neutrino

07:39

lol

lyxal

2 mins ago, by lyxal

@hyper-neutrino if anything, it should be += character[0]

hyper-neutrino

I think A username wants it to print @HyperNeutrino Welcome Back!

but if you do ^ that won't work

lyxal

2 mins ago, by lyxal

@hyper-neutrino if anything, it should be += character[0]

That's how you fix it

That's what's causing the bug

hyper-neutrino

mfw localhost link

lyxal

Is that with the fix I suggested?

hyper-neutrino

07:41

yes

lyxal

Hmm.

I don't have my computer at the moment, so I'm going blind here btw

(mobile debugging ftw)

hyper-neutrino

source = group_two_byte_strings(source)
source = group_strings(source)
source = group_digraphs(source, variables_are_digraphs)

this order feels wrong

lyxal

It really isn't

hyper-neutrino

i think you need to run group in parallel

two byte strings should block ` from starting a string

but ` should block two byte strings

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino it does

hyper-neutrino

07:44

wait, no, two-byte-strings has a switch to catch strings

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino Try it Online!

hyper-neutrino

so why doesn't it work then

@hyper-neutrino wait no it doesn't

lyxal

Tell me what the return value of group_strings on `This shouldn‛tn‛t work` is

hyper-neutrino

just group_strings?

lyxal

Ah, sorry

group_strings on the result of two bytes

gs(gtbs(...))

hyper-neutrino

07:48

>>> from vyxal.parser import group_strings as g
>>> from vyxal.parser import group_two_byte_strings as b
>>> b("`This shouldn‛tn‛t work`")
['`', 'T', 'h', 'i', 's', ' ', 's', 'h', 'o', 'u', 'l', 'd', 'n', ['tn', '`'], ['t ', '`'], 'w', 'o', 'r', 'k', '`']
>>> g(_)
[['This shouldntnt work', '`']]

this is with your proposed fix

without it, this would error

lyxal

Well frick

hyper-neutrino

        temp = components.append([temp + character, "`"]) or ""
        in_string = False

ngl i don't get what this is supposed to be trying to do

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino I can kind of see a solution to this, but I need to stare at the results for a bit longer

I think I have an idea

hyper-neutrino

okay i guess the important part is

is ‛ supposed to indicate that the next two characters form a literal

lyxal

Yes

hyper-neutrino

07:50

and is `...` supposed to be a literal

and is ‛`h supposed to be a two-byte literal and not start a string

lyxal

Yes

@hyper-neutrino yes

hyper-neutrino

and is `...‛...` supposed to insert the ‛` directly into the string

wtf that breaks markdown

lyxal

Depends on the flags used, but yes

hyper-neutrino

wait which flag changes this

lyxal

D turns off dictionary compression

hyper-neutrino

07:51

oh you mean that

lyxal

Yes

hyper-neutrino

well i still consider that inserting the character, it just gets decompressed after

lyxal

Oh okay

Su

hyper-neutrino

> escaped = components.append(character) or True

why must you hurt me in this way

a) just do two lines

b) escaped = not components.append(character)

math

I don't want to interrupt, but I have a Vyxal question again: Where's the code that translates the Vyxal command (eg. +) to its helper function (eg. add)?

lyxal

07:54

@math you're not interrupting

math

half

hyper-neutrino

i can just add a check in GTBS such that when it sees a backtick, it disables the two-byte group until it sees another backtick

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino I'm currently writing a half-fix into a gist

hyper-neutrino

aight

lyxal

@math remember that non-structures are have the NONE structure type

So if you go to vy_compile, you'll see that the command dictionary is accessed under the if statement that checks if token_name == Structure.NONE

math

07:56

oh right

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino gist.github.com/Lyxal/1787f447a25e284af16c619ed4ad07bf

That would require a few changes in vy_compile, but I think that would work

hyper-neutrino

why else would type(character) be list

lyxal

> there's probably a need for an elif for the other string delimiter types because I think there was something funny with strings being parsed inside other structures or something

Honestly, I don't know

hyper-neutrino

opened #148

thoughts on a github bot here?

lyxal

Perhaps it's time for a third rewrite of the string grouping system

@hyper-neutrino yes

hyper-neutrino

08:02

what's wrong with making GTBS ignore the delimiter if currently in a `-string?

lyxal

Probably nothing

But I mean, it's kinda clear that there's some confusion around the way strings are handled internally

hyper-neutrino

there are two easy ways to fix this

the first is to just look for GTBS-style things inside strings and unpack them appropriately

the second is to make `-strings stop GTBS

the issue with the former is that if the two-byte-string delimiter is too close to the end, it cuts off the closing backtick and causes the string to not terminate (being the one your gist has)

do you want to maintain that strings can be parsed within strings?

lyxal

?

hyper-neutrino

like, do you want two-byte-strings to be parsed within normal strings or is that unintended behavior

lyxal

It's neither really

It's just an intermittent step in the string parsing process

And this means that the same bug will be present in the experimental branch

Because I totally didn't rip half the code for the parser straight from the experimental branch

hyper-neutrino

08:08

hmm. okay

lyxal

I think I'll have to redo the string parsing system

hyper-neutrino

what do you expect `abc'x` to do? (where ' is the 2b delimiter cuz i'm lazy)

lyxal

Just insert the '

hyper-neutrino

okay

lyxal

It being parsed inside the string is relatively arbitrary

hyper-neutrino

08:10

so as long as the end result works that 'a` does not start a string and `abc'` will close a string, it's fine?

lyxal

Yes

hyper-neutrino

aight. i think this should be reasonable tofix

lyxal

I kinda want to rewrite it though

I've hit a lack of momentum with the experimental branch

And I'm not quite sure what's happening with the code clean up

So a challenge where I somewhat know what's happen is greatly appreciated

Plus, I can document it properly as I write it

hyper-neutrino

fair enough. i will leave this to you then

lyxal

CMQ:. What should something like '\'m be parsed as (let ' be the two byte string delimiter)

hyper-neutrino

08:19

i think it should insert the two-byte delimiter and m into a string

lyxal

\' (literally backslash and delimiter) or 'm (delimiter and m)?

hyper-neutrino

IMO if scanning a two byte literal, \ should escape the next character iff it is \ or '

and likewise, when scanning a normal literal, \ should escape only \ or `

lyxal

So '\\? > \?

And '\n > newline

@hyper-neutrino ^ and ^^

hyper-neutrino

no, IMO the second is unnecessary because you can just put a newline itself

use regex to parse these /s

lyxal

But say it was '\t or '\r?

hyper-neutrino

08:23

oh wait

lyxal

There are no single byte elements for those

hyper-neutrino

hm, then i guess those should be escaped too

lyxal

And then what about '\t?

Literally \t or tab followed by question mark?

hyper-neutrino

i think tab makes more sense then

hyper-neutrino

08:55

in Sandbox, 13 secs ago, by Vyxal Bot

The repository was starred by hyper-neutrino

\o/ it begins

A username

@HyNerateElevation You should totally change your name to that

@hyper-neutrino Could be nice.

Also, Vylight....

Can I safely fix this or will there be massive merge conflicts?

lyxal

09:25

Vy light is pretty much separate

You should be fine

A username

ok

lyxal

We're mostly cleaning the python code

A username

ok

Turns out I just forgot to check if it's in SCC mode.

PyGamer0

09:45

How is the structure separator | parsed?

A username

I don't really understand the current version but I'll try to explain how I did it:

There are three different usecases:
- statements where it's just a simple branch, like while loops and if statements
- statements where it modifies what came before, such as for loops and lambda arities
- lists.

With the first, you can just parse it as its own token, and let the compiler handle it.

The second is a bit more complicated. If you encounter a |, you basically pop tokens while accumulating what's in between until you encounter the original, push what's in between as a token, then push the branch as its own token.

The third can mostly be parsed as its own token, although it requires a little lateral thinking.

A username

10:03

@lyxal ⁺ is broken

A username

10:59

And ↵

lyxal

That does sound like a combination of issues with the new parser and the clean up

A username

Hm

lyxal

I'll fix it shortly

A username

I kinda want to just put the 2.4 snapshot online and leave it be...

lyxal

11:44

That would have to be on a separate pythonanywhere server

Because my current site has already used 350mb of my 500mb storage allowance

And that's just one version

A username

That's fine

Wait 350mb

How

lyxal

Idk

A username

(Anyway I can make one and push buttons)

lyxal

Wonderful

@Ausername i have fixed the bug

A username

poggers

lyxal

11:56

now to make strings great again

using queues

A username

is vectorisation great again?

lyxal

probably

who knows?

A username

not me

lyxal

same here

A username

generators though...

lyxal

12:01

we don't talk about those

A username

Vyxal 2.6:
- Fixed generators
- Removed Herobrine

3

lyxal

Vyxal 69.420:

- Added ability to make programs use telekensis
- Fixed generators

A username

And now ‛ is broken in compressed strings

'night

lyxal

@Ausername we know

that's issue #148 on github

lyxal

12:22

@AaronMiller hello there!

everything is only half on fire this time

Aaron Miller

yay!

lyxal

and now it's not on fire

because I used a fire extinguisher on the code

hello @user

Aaron Miller

hooray for code fire extinguishers!

user

Hi

lyxal

and by fire extinguisher, I mean this song

(not a rickroll I promise - Rick isn't exactly that helpful for vyxal work)

user

12:38

This failed, methinks group_strings or whatever didn't get refactored/renamed prpoerly

lyxal

@user heh, imagine not checking the most recent commit

user

lol

lyxal

this isn't the first time I've been unhappy with pylint: github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/commit/…

user

12:57

CMQ: What kind of decorators would be a good idea to add to make writing Vyxal easier?

I feel there should be a stackify decorator to turn a Python function into a command that pops from the stack and pushes back onto it

lyxal

Turning Generator into a decorator would be great, but time consuming

because you'd have to go through each instance and refactor it

which is why in the experimental branch, I'm using LazyList as a decorator right from the start

user

Interesting, how does that work?

Actually nvm I'll go check it out myself

lyxal

@user v

def __call__(self, *args, **kwargs):
    return self

example usage:

def map_every_n(function, lhs, index):
    @LazyList
    def f():
        for pos, element in enumerate(lhs):
            if (pos + 1) % index:
                yield element
            else:
                yield function([element])[-1]

    return f()

user

Nice

lyxal

because apparently you can use classes as decorators

hyper-neutrino

13:39

you can also decorate classes

decorators can be any callable (cuz it is just syntactical sugar for calling something, anyway)

user

i try decrat fns wit generator but nat wrk :(((((((

hyper-neutrino

L

user

eet wurk nau

much hapi yay

Aaron Miller

14:24

Fun fact: When using the r flag, the $ command is rendered completely useless. I think this should change. Essentially, when using the r flag, $ should either take its arguments in the normal order, or it should return its arguments unchanged and unswapped, which would mean they are swapped since they are taken in reverse order.

user

lol

You can probably commit to master directly, that's a pretty reasonable change

Btw does anyone know what first_n does?

hyper-neutrino

probably gets the first N integers satisfying some condition for that one element

Aaron Miller

14:38

@user I'm just not sure which would be better between the two ways of doing it: The flag doesn't affect that command, or that command acts differently depending on the flag

user

The flag shouldn't affect that command, I guess. Making it act differently would mean extra swapping and unswapping and swapping

hyper-neutrino

it only takes me five keystrokes to get to the vyxal repo lol

g (rightarrow) v (rightarrow) v

(well technically then i need to hit enter)

@VyxalBot should be pretty operational now for reporting activity on github

Aaron Miller

It used to take me just one: g, but when I was setting up the interpreter for brainbox, I referenced the grok one a lot, so now g tries to go to there, so it takes two: gi

hyper-neutrino

ah

Aaron Miller

@hyper-neutrino Noice

hyper-neutrino

14:48

bot will report forks, issues opened/closed/reopened/edited, PRs opened/reopened/closed/merged, commits pushed, and branches created/deleted

if there's anything else y'all want just lmk

hyper-neutrino

15:11

aight i'm disabling the bot here for now so i can test other stuff

user

Hi @VyxalBot! How do you do?

hyper-neutrino

not very well; the bot is failing to send requests to the backend for whatever reason

also i have a somewhat cursed setup; i have two flask servers, one of them is internal and sends messages when it receives a POST; the other is external and receives webhook activity via a POST and then POSTs to the internal server

and to prevent having to log in / out too much (which hits captcha), when the bot receives a message, it just POSTs it to my ext server which POSTs the reply back xD

Aaron Miller

I would say you should add a rickrolling command that's only accessible to ROs, but pretty much everyone here is an RO, so... :/

hyper-neutrino

*makes it mod exclusive*

user

Can't you use the internal server directly?

@AaronMiller lol this room probably has the highest RO:participant ratio

hyper-neutrino

15:21

@user idk this should work fine and idk what best practice is lol

i mean probably to pack everything into one file but then if i change it i need to restart the bot and that hits captcha

hyper-neutrino

15:35

CMQ - what commands should the bot have and what syntax?

I want to add a hyperping command but I am worried about abuse

Aaron Miller

@VyxalBot lol u good? - Check status of bot

hyper-neutrino

or just non-malicious misuse

Aaron Miller

@VyxalBot epic gamers - Hyperping all users currently in room

user

@VyxalBot plz give me teh otput - Runs Vyxal code (inputs and flags optional)

Should it be given RO powers?

Aaron Miller

@VyxalBot is <code> funny? - Execute <code> as Vyxal code and only return the output if it is 69 or 420 /s

hyper-neutrino

15:42

:bruh:

@user doesn't seem necessary

Aaron Miller

@hyper-neutrino It's not necessary for half the ROs to have RO powers, so you know somebody is gonna give it RO powers

hyper-neutrino

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ true

Aaron Miller

aww, it needs 100 rep first. dang it

hyper-neutrino

i think lyxal just like RO'd anyone who sent more than 2 messages here lmao

Feeds

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hyper-neutrino

15:43

not if I commit mod abuse

3

Aaron Miller

11

hyper-neutrino

@lyxal btw i hate you for making strings delimited by backticks /s

Aaron Miller

@lyxal btw i love you for making strings delimited by backticks /s

user

@hyper-neutrino hehe, fenced code blocks ftw

@user Btw this is a completely serious request, since it is in the spirit of Vyxal

hyper-neutrino

tbh i just hate markdown lmao

user

15:47

Every day, more people die

hyper-neutrino

nice

user

Someone must be sacrificed to stop this

Feeds

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hyper-neutrino

fixed

i don't actually need to be an ro kekw

user

Thank you for volunteering

Aaron Miller

15:49

:58598309 If you're gonna add a rickroll, you can't say that you're gonna add a rickroll or everyone will know. You have to put it in in such a way that no one will notice until they get rickrolled, like when A username added a rickroll to Vyxal.

user

Please don't insult me by using that link :P

→ 1 message moved to Trash

Aaron Miller

wdym?

its a perfectly valid example

user

It's the most commonly used link used to rickroll people

I've memorized it by now

Oh wait you changed it lol

Aaron Miller

lol

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