The Nineteenth Byte

@Ausername Illuminator requires doing x 500 times, where x is "Edit and answer a post within 12 hours of each other, the answer must be +1 or more"

Doesn't require getting 500 upvotes in 12 hours, that's insane

A username

Oh ok

Redwolf Programs

Some day I am going to make an SO account and try to use suggested edits to get to 2k without ever posting :p

caird coinheringaahing

Another one: for all the "actions" on the site (edit, answer, ask, review, tag wiki edit etc.), you can only do 1. How many badges can you get?

Redwolf Programs

8:36 PM

(not really that'd take forever and I don't like helping out on SO)

Twelve question badges (one question and one bounty), still working on the rest

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms And one accept

Redwolf Programs

Answering is where it gets complicated

Self learner conflicts with quite a few

So I think it'd be better to skip that one

caird coinheringaahing

I think you can get 11 answer badges with 1 answer and 1 edit

Redwolf Programs

Probably better to save the edit though

Do rollbacks count as edits?

caird coinheringaahing

I'll say no, as they're explicitly something else in the system

Redwolf Programs

8:39 PM

I mean for badges

caird coinheringaahing

I don't think so

Redwolf Programs

Like do you get editor alongside cleanup?

Oh ok

Excavator might be a good use of the edit

Make it a retag to get organizer

caird coinheringaahing

Legendary is technically possible with just 1 answer and 1 question

I count 11 Participation badges

Redwolf Programs

Taxonomist is free with the question or the edit

caird coinheringaahing

You might even be able to get Constable/Sheriff, but we can ignore those

Redwolf Programs

8:42 PM

If you suddenly had everyone downvote your answer after it got you Legendary and friends you could also get Peer Pressure, but discplined is the easier option

All of the Other badges are free

caird coinheringaahing

And I get 12 Moderation badges

Redwolf Programs

Do you count upvoting and downvoting as separate actions?

caird coinheringaahing

No, you can do each once

A username

Civic duty & Sportsmanship are impossible

user

How is Sportsmanship impossible?

A username

8:45 PM

See above

Because that requires 100 votes

user

Can't you post a single answer and upvote a hundred answers on a single question?

@Ausername Oh I didn't see votes were limited too

Redwolf Programs

I'm going to be halfway to Socratic at the end of today!

hyper-neutrino

nice :D

Redwolf Programs

._.

I'd be much closer if I hadn't posted a bunch of questions on the same day several times

caird coinheringaahing

So the scenario: you post a question with a 100+ score, 10k+ views and 100+ favourites and accept an answer. You then start and award a bounty on someone else's question. Next, you edit a question (including the tags) that was inactive for 6 months and on -3 or less. Then, you are the first answer to that question, with a score of 100+ and accepted, and the question's score becomes +3

Redwolf Programs

8:48 PM

(or your own question, that's also two badges)

user

Time to create sockpuppets and test this out! /s

A username

:P

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing Don't forget that, before it's accepted, it has to have double the previous accepted answer's score to get Populist

Oh nvm

Oh wait nvm the nvm

caird coinheringaahing

After that, you edit your About Me, visit and vote in the next election, stick around for a year visiting 100 consecutive days while recapping 150 times. You post a popular question on meta, flag a post, roll back an edit, cast both an up and a down vote, do a review, suggest an approved tag synonym, and edit a tag wiki. Finally, you delete your answer

@RedwolfPrograms You can either get Populist or Revival, not both. I chose Revivial cause its easier to describe

hyper-neutrino

> visiting 100 consecutive days while repcapping 150 times

Redwolf Programs

8:51 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wrong

user

@hyper-neutrino It would have to be a very good question

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Yep, good point

Redwolf Programs

Answer first, second answer gets accepted, then yours gets accepted after it hits double the accepted one's score

caird coinheringaahing

Or even, first answer is accepted with a score of less than 2

> Answer more than 30 days after a question was asked as first answer scoring 2 or more

user

Don't you get a badge for a self-answer?

caird coinheringaahing

8:52 PM

Yes, but then you don't get the accept-based badges

Redwolf Programs

Of which there are a lot

user

Oh ok

Redwolf Programs

This is fun to speculate about :p

caird coinheringaahing

For a grand total of 49 badges, and at least 30000 reputation

9 of which are gold

user

I would love to see someone do this

caird coinheringaahing

8:55 PM

@hyper-neutrino 2 slow burn, very good posts :P

The luck you'd need would be insane :P

You'd need both of your posts to be incredibly high quality, and the answer would need to be good on a poor quality question, making it even harder

user

Time to start my speedrun to 49 badges and site analytics :P

caird coinheringaahing

Legendary and Epic would be the hardest to get tho - repcapping 50/150 times from only 2 posts

user

I'm addicted to anti-jokes. That's why all the people I love left me.

(ignore me, just recording a flash of inspiration I had)

caird coinheringaahing

In the past 4 days, I've raised 24 helpful flags on MM. It took me ages to get to Deputy here and I think I'll hit in a month on MM, if that

A username

Not much oppurtunity for flags here

caird coinheringaahing

9:01 PM

If I keep going at this rate, I'll get Marshal in 83 days there. I'm 1/5th of the way there here :/

@Ausername Which I suppose is a good thing :P

hyper-neutrino

i wonder who has the most helpful flags

pppery apparently has 400+ according to their profile

caird coinheringaahing

Mego hit Marshal IIRC

hyper-neutrino

do any existing users have it

caird coinheringaahing

3 users

hyper-neutrino

huh, never heard of nissa before but they have it. lol

caird coinheringaahing

9:04 PM

Holy crap, Erik has 919

A username

What

hyper-neutrino

oh wait flag count is public information

lol

caird coinheringaahing

Count is, but not what was flagged

hyper-neutrino

mhm

is #declined flags visible to you guys?

caird coinheringaahing

Our declined flags are

user

9:06 PM

Ours are

hyper-neutrino

okay

(too lazy to log in to my sock to check lol)

caird coinheringaahing

I have 5 declined flags and 5 disputed ones

user

"log in to my sock" sounds confusing out of context

caird coinheringaahing

I would have 4 declined, but someone decided to decline a bunch of spam flags on a spam post :P

A username

Why

hyper-neutrino

9:08 PM

that was my bad

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/223723/68942 you can't see this but /shrug/

user

2000 rep until I can see deleted stuff

hyper-neutrino

i did not understand its context and assumed it was just blatantly off topic and should be just banished, didn't realize it was spam. asked TL and i'm not sure I got a 100% consensus on whether or not redflagging it would've been right

caird coinheringaahing

It was a spam post, but not an obvious spam post, so HN declined them

user

Is it annoying to be able to see deleted posts? Do you have to scroll through a bunch of them everywhere?

caird coinheringaahing

Sandbox, yes

hyper-neutrino

9:09 PM

in any case, the account was created right before posting it, so i probably should've just been more decisive and yeeted it

caird coinheringaahing

Everywhere else, not really

@hyper-neutrino From now on, I'm raising flags with "This answer is invalid, please yeet it"

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hyper-neutrino

:disappointment face:

that's one of the times i can recall making a blatantly wrong call :( your honor, my client pleads "oops"

A username

Why does this language exist?

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino It was annoying, cause I got a "a recent flag was declined, make sure you should be flagging this" message for the next couple :/

@Ausername To win at code-bowling?

user

@Ausername Because whoever created it thought it was fun. Why does anything exist?

A username

9:12 PM

True

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh :c sorry about that

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ mistakes happen

hyper-neutrino

mhm. can't un-make the mistake so i just have to learn from it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

apparently i only have 42 helpful flags. lol... (and i'm not gonna get more :P)

caird coinheringaahing

Got to love mods not getting Deputy/Marshal :P

TBH that's one of the things I want to do before (assuming I do) standing for mod

Badges: Gotta ~~catch~~ be awarded them all :P

rak1507

9:44 PM

if I ever find a counter example to the goldbach conjecture the first thing I do is going to be submitting an answer in that language

caird coinheringaahing

Before or after claiming your $1m prize?

rak1507

clearly before, reputation > money

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Q: Best Rolling Ao5

In speedcubing, an Ao5 (Average of 5) is computed for a set of five times by removing the fastest and slowest times, and then computing the mean of the remaining three times. A "rolling ao5" is computed for a sequence of at least five times by computing the ao5 for every set of consecutive five ...

Delfad0r

@NewMainPosts Why the 2 decimal places :(

caird coinheringaahing

And the trailing 0 requirement :(

I had to add 3 bytes to, then delete my Jelly answer because of those two

Any final feedback? Considering posting today/tomorrow

Wezl

10:01 PM

CMC: What's the best replacement for :P?

rak1507

looks like a total pain, 10/10

@Wezl :D probably

or ;D?

Wezl

some potential candidates: :) :>, and of course ᐚ ᐑ ᐔ ᑒ ᑤ

rak1507

:> then maybe

:) is just happy not like :P

Wezl

ᑤ this one is eating its eyeball

rak1507

now that's a horrible image

Wezl

10:06 PM

(working on a font and looked more closely at canadian aboriginal syllabics)

rak1507

interesting, any particular reason?

Wezl

ᔸ: I have a nose
cat: vroom
ᔽ: that was violent

@rak1507 I had to have ᐵ and ᑈ from dzaima/apl

rak1507

ah, cool

wondered if you were making an esolang with them as the code page or something

Wezl

~~APL is an esolang~~

rak1507

10:28 PM

lol

user

@Wezl q:

:b works too

A username

@Delfad0r It's a pain.

Delfad0r

And they won't even let me take the length of the array as input :(

(I don't actually know if that's standard, so I can't complain too much ^^)

Neil

10:44 PM

@Delfad0r it's usually standard, for instance C has no other way

rak1507

I'm sure this challenge was in the sandbox, anyone have a link to it?

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 Here you go

A username

I got unupvoted and now I'm sad :P

So close to bronze code-golf and yet so far.

rak1507

@cairdcoinheringaahing hm, I definitely remember seeing that yet I didn't comment on the IO, I have let my future self down

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 I commented on the I/O for you (didn't change anything tho) :)

rak1507

10:47 PM

yeah

Redwolf Programs

Unrelated, but diep.io is such a frustrating game. There's a ton of really good ideas but they ruined it with the actual gameplay and it's not any fun as a result

caird coinheringaahing

Extra brownie points if anyone can find a 16 (or less) byte Jelly answer to my Gelatin question before NMP posts it

Bubbler

@cairdcoinheringaahing Random fact: yeet has been proposed as an actual keyword for Rust

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caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler I so want this to happen :P

hyper-neutrino

well, I got a jelly answer working...

takes 25 bytes for a pretty trivial computation :(

rak1507

10:50 PM

'used because it definitely won't be the final keyword' :(

user

@Bubbler I'd star this but I'm at a record of 6 unstarred messages out of 8

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Maybe use ær2 and checking if there's only one digit after the .?

hyper-neutrino

i'll try that

gtg for dinner but i will try thinking of other options later

A username

7 minutes on NMP

user

Yeet language compiler btw

Bubbler

10:56 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Btw, early congrats for Socratic (99 progress + Gelatin challenge today).

I'm also at 99 progress but I'll post mine after 0:00 UTC

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler Thanks! I was torn about trying to do it on the same day as you, but I'm (probably/should be) going to bed in ~an hour, so I figured it'd either be late tomorrow or you'd do it tonight

ಠ_ಠ I just repcapped, but Epic doesn't think so because of the bounty I started earlier

Bubbler

Epic really has nothing to do with repcapping

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Q: Interpret Gelatin

Gelatin is a worse version of Jelly. It is a tacit programming language that always takes a single integer argument and that has 7 (or maybe 16) commands. You are to take in a Gelatin program and it's argument and output the result. Gelatin Gelatin programs will always match the following regex: ...

code-golf interpreter

user

Good morning

Unrelated String

@cairdcoinheringaahing I have 15 bytes but it fails one single test case and I can't tell why :/

Bubbler

11:02 PM

How to progress in Epic: schedule your questions and bounties carefully so they don't overlap, and pray for FGITW-able challenges to not appear on the day you put up a bounty

user

@user Lyxal, you've been ninja'd

Unrelated String

as in I can't tell how the given output for it is correct lmao

Redwolf Programs

~ is kinda useless...isn't _~ always just 0?

Unrelated String

if I try to work +~D_~_ out myself I get

oh

never mind

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Or +~, which is double

Unrelated String

11:03 PM

I didn't read the challenge

caird coinheringaahing

But also, there's no other way to consistently zero out v

Okx

Hey I have a question for function answers, if they have a side effect meaning they can only be run once per program, is it still valid?

Redwolf Programs

Do you have an example?

Unrelated String

that's been a bigf meta discussion in the past and I think the answer was no but I forget

A username

@Okx Hmm, that's a tricky one.

Okx

11:05 PM

Say a function that relies on the fact that a global variable doesn't exist at the start but sets the global variable during the course of the function

Does it have to explicitly unset the global variable at the start?

rak1507

no

caird coinheringaahing

@Okx I think the general consensus is that functions have to be reusable, so that wouldn't be allowed

rak1507

really? huh

caird coinheringaahing

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Q: Do function submissions have to be reusable?

Simple question: if I answer a code golf with a function (for a task which is supposed to terminate), does the function actually have to be reusable? Or could it, say, modify some globals which break the function when called again? (Note that this is not about whether functions may modify their ...

discussion code-golf policy

Okx

Alright thanks

rak1507

11:06 PM

but you can submit a full program, which may be shorter if you rely on mutating global state

Wezl

o/

Okx

Unfortunately I am working with a language that doesn't make that possible

rak1507

aw, shame

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler Early congrats on Socratic! :P

Bubbler

:P

Redwolf Programs

11:17 PM

That's pretty interesting timing that I happened to hit half-socratic on the same day both of y'all get it

I guess I'm exactly half as good at asking questions, no more, no less :p

Lyxal

E. That's how I'm feeling because of the 2 hour midterm test I have to do for uni today

Bubbler

Aww. Good luck with that

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Q: Restricted-source, take this!

a.k.a. You Can Output Anything With Labyrinth Or Hexagony™ Challenge In a recent restricted-source challenge, I could print any character with only half of the allowed digits with very small character count, by abusing the "digit commands" and modulo-256 output function. Now, it's about time to m...

code-golf math number-theory

hyper-neutrino

11:34 PM

i go to eat dinner and two challenges get FGITW'd in jelly

:(

(and probably golfier than mine would've been)

user

There's a pun about Jelly and dinner to be made here, but as always, I can't find it

okie

I got an idea about chat golf event: creative golfing

caird coinheringaahing

That's 4 spam posts about Indonesian gambling within the past 24 hours now :/

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Redwolf Programs

More indonesian gambling spam

ninja'd

hyper-neutrino

oh i don't have my spam destruction template on windows

oh well i don't care about this user they can just have a default mod message

okie

11:39 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing can you show me the spam question?

caird coinheringaahing

I've lost 70 rep to the cap today, and it resets in 20 minutes :(

Redwolf Programs

this

caird coinheringaahing

You won't be able to see them, they've all been deleted

Redwolf Programs

Deleted in 3 views, that's some effective moderation :p

hyper-neutrino

well this one was blatant so i didn't do the monke brain :P

okie

11:40 PM

bruh ipad store my message

blyat

hyper-neutrino

caird sent that so i went over to the main page, clicked the flags icon, opened it, and redflagged it so

g o n e

okie

@hyper-neutrino :(

hyper-neutrino

no, that is a :)

Redwolf Programs

There's not much to see honestly

hyper-neutrino

it's just your typical casino promotion spam

okie

11:41 PM

that may have historical value (x

hyper-neutrino

well if you really want to see it

just get 10k rep

okie

ok

hyper-neutrino

unfortunately users can recreate their account under the same email address

so i suspend them for a year before destroying their account

though they're probably on throwaway emails anyway

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Honestly, if I had a delete-as-spam button like the mod one, plus the New Posts userscript, this place would never have spam :P

Redwolf Programs

I don't know why but all of a sudden after seeing that post in a language I don't know I feel a massive urge to go spend all of my money in an Indonesian casino

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hyper-neutrino

11:42 PM

:P

okie

IpAd StOp ToYing My MeSSaGE

hyper-neutrino

every time i see these i have an urge to go on a destruction spree and just purge a bunch of accounts with casino spam in their profiles

but as long as they don't post they won't really be noticed

and it's a waste of moderation time to do so, and all the mod messages would annoy the other mods

caird coinheringaahing

I dont get why destroyed accounts get mod messages

Especially as it's a different thing to deleting accounts

hyper-neutrino

no the mod message is me suspending them for a year

unless they also get an auto mod message

caird coinheringaahing

oh

hyper-neutrino

11:45 PM

idk i don't remember if i got an email when my account was removed

okie

You can make a golf question regarding determine a question is casino spamming or not

caird coinheringaahing

no idea if they get an auto mod message when destroyed tho

hyper-neutrino

but it couldn't have been destroyed because i had 500 rep and it was through a special procedure

it took 1:44 for it to get nuked. i should open new posts; 1m 44s is quite long

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caird coinheringaahing

I had enough time to flag, that's how long it was :P

Redwolf Programs

I should set up a notification service for new questions so we don't have to keep tabs open :p

Lyxal

11:47 PM

If I wasn't so bad at the long game of poker and I had money to spare I might actually pay some attention to the questions. But none of those is true, so I guess deleting them is fine :p

okie

atleast 1m44s is faster then main post bot

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms I wouldn't use that :P

Imagine using it on SO :P

Redwolf Programs

I refuse to

hyper-neutrino

my nuke record is around 36 seconds and that's cuz i had my text editor open and only tabbed back like 20s after it was posted

Redwolf Programs

That would be horrible

hyper-neutrino

11:48 PM

it was 4AM so activity was weird so tabbed over

this shows something about the contents being erased and the content being in the revision history right?

Redwolf Programs

Yes

hyper-neutrino

nice. i don't get such limitiations/luxuries (depending on how you see it), so if there's offensive or repulsive content i see it straight away

granted, i'd only open it if it needs to be flagged, in which case the content won't have been purged yet anyway

user

Redwolf Programs

:(

user

I've finally reached my goal of not starring a single message on the starboard

@RedwolfPrograms ?

Lyxal

11:52 PM

@user first time?

user

Yeah

Lyxal

get good

user

Most of the time, it's all yellow

Lyxal

everytime i wake up there isn't a spot of yellow to be seen

user

It's your fault for living on the wrong side of the earth

Bubbler

11:54 PM

@Lyxal It's a good sign that you're sleeping well :P

user

I have a great idea - all of you should follow the same sleep schedule as me so I don't have to go through the transcript in the morning :P

Redwolf Programs

what time do we collectively fall asleep?

user

1:00 AM EST

hyper-neutrino

joke's on you, i sleep at ~4 AM EST

user

Are you one of those people that wake up in the afternoon or are you a vampire?

hyper-neutrino

11:58 PM

i wake up at around 10-11 usually

user

In any case, synchronizing with my clock is a win-win because I don't have to read other people's messages later and you all get to converse with a highly charismatic and intelligent user

@hyper-neutrino I can't afford such luxuries :(

hyper-neutrino

this week i'll probably be getting up later cuz i finally have a week off

Bubbler

I sleep at between 10PM and midnight, but then my timezone is

UTC+9

hyper-neutrino

@user F

user

School starts at 9 right now and once it's in person, I'll have to wake up at 6 to get to school on time

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