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12:07 AM
And Gareth takes it!
 
12:19 AM
i knew it was kay-ing and not any of the dozen other things i guessed that were completely wrong!
 
12:47 AM
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Q: Another prefix suffix puzzle

IsaacRoan SisonMy start is teasing someone, My infix is a time unit, which means a lot of years ago, but without the y. My end is Peter Senerchia. My whole means dazzle.

 
1:24 AM
CCCC: Fuss about boss battle (4,3)
 
ZERO TWO is the final boss in one of Kirby games, though I'm pretty sure it's not the answer :)
 
i think it's FA(CEO)FF
 
@Jafe Yup! Over to you.
 
CCCC: Leftist country in Asia; has human population and "Supreme Leader" (10,7,8,2,5)
 
Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
(I thought "People's" comes first in the name though?)
 
HTM
1:39 AM
@Bubbler Looks right: "Leftist" + "country in Asia" = DEMOCRATIC + REPUBLIC OF KOREA, containing ("has") "human population" + "'Supreme Leader'" = PEOPLE + S
And it's an &lit, which is pretty cool
 
that is correct
 
HTM can take it. I just guessed by the enumeration and had almost no idea about the wordplay
 
to be clear, democratic ~ leftist was in reference to US politics... i admit it's not a slam dunk fit
wanted to use "one-party" but that would have been the wrong word class i think
 
HTM
The DPRK is nominally socialist, so I'll take it
CCCC: Order, state briefly? (7)
 
@HTM COMMAND ddef
 
HTM
1:53 AM
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica Which parts are the two definitions?
 
Order and state briefly
 
@Jafe Seems the enumeration should have been (10, 6'1, 8, 2, 5)?
 
HTM
How is "state briefly" = COMMAND?
 
To state something quick
Like, "Hey! Give me that C4!" Fast and easy lol
 
fwiw i think you have the right answer anon, just need to figure out the wordplay
 
1:55 AM
Isn't stating something briefly like COMMANDing about something?
 
HTM
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica I'm looking at the dictionary definitions, and they don't seem to mention saying things quickly
 
If not I would by pleased to say TIL
I mean, try logic, when commanding someone, you give quick and simple COMMANDs
 
oh, that's clever. COMMA (,) + ND (North Dakota, a "state", briefly)
 
HTM
@bobble :trophy:
 
1:57 AM
Oh, oops
Facepalms So close
 
HTM
BTW for any future clues I pose here, whenever I put a question mark at the end it will almost always mean that something tricky is going on in some part of the clue
 
@bobble oh, right
 
COMMA is really tricky
 
are apostrophes always indicated like that? i used to always indicate them but then i stopped for a reason i don't remember...
 
I am pleased to say, TIL
 
1:59 AM
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Q: Cryptic Clue Guide

Deusovi This post is not a puzzle. There is nothing puzzly hidden inside it or the self-answer, posted at the same time. What exactly is a cryptic crossword clue, and how do I write one?

> Also, cryptic clues are almost always given with their enumeration: a string of numbers and punctuation inside parentheses giving away the lengths of the words in the answer, as well as how they're punctuated. The enumeration for the answer "JACK-O'-LANTERN" would be (4-1'-7), for instance.
 
@Jafe Maybe because they're not fair clues? I mean, where is the indicator that says, "Hey, use the comma as a word"
 
I go by the Puzzling CC Bible
3
 
HTM
@Jafe Perhaps because once you see something like (5'1) you immediately know it's ?????'S
But if you want to be technically correct, you would have to indicate all apostrophes in the solution
 
ok
 
HTM
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica I think they're talking about when the solution word/phrase has a punctuation mark in it, like DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KOREA
 
2:06 AM
I have to eat dinner now; will post clue when I get back
(since I haven't thought of it yet)
 
making a mental note to remember that... for some reason, i hadn't stopped marking hyphens, only apostrophes
 
i've seen apostrophes go unmarked too
there are minor variations in ways to enumerate things
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica That's perfectly fair. That's not something that needs an indicator - indicators are for wordplay transformations, and that's not a transformation.
but yeah no problem with leaving apostrophes unmarked in enumerations, just be consistent. same deal for enumerating acronyms - is "FBI" (3) or "(1,1,1)"? up to you
 
speaking of apostrophes, what's the deal with dropping the possessive apostrophe from proper names like harrods, woolworths etc?
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
you'd think the rules are complicated as is without throwing new exceptions in the mix
there's a suburb of gold coast named Surfers Paradise, you'd expect to have an apostrophe there on either side of the final S but you never see it, the official name is without apostrophes
so there must be a reason they specifically wanted it that way
 
2:14 AM
you assume more competency at apostrophe placement than many people have
 
HTM
@Jafe "Surfers Paradise" = paradise for surfers, perhaps?
 
this is the kind of important things i wonder about
 
look up "greengrocer's apostrophe" if you are a stickler for apostrophe placement and want to cringe
 
there's a bar in my former home town that advertises "drink`s and great feelin`" written with what are clearly backticks
i assume their average customer is not as bothered by this as i am
 
oh no
 
2:37 AM
@Jafe Clearly the Surfers family. ;p
 
mr and mrs Surfers
 
Well it is a way to avoid punctuation, apparently... But apostrophes in place names often seem to have limited shelf-life. :/
 
 
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3:54 AM
I can't believe I missed an entire discussion about Korea
 
4:13 AM
CCCC: Explicit association. (4)
too tired to think of a better one
 
4:52 AM
@bobble firm ddef (explicit, like a firm command, sorta)??
 
that's the intention, yes
 
 
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6:42 AM
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Q: (Almost) all hands on check

loopy waltHistorical note (skip if you like): In this interesting puzzle @TSLF asks for the "maximum number of black and white pieces that are involved in a checkmate position". Originally, they left much open to interpretation, and interpret me and a handful of others did! My interpretation did not exactl...

 
oh, cool
CCCC: Bono's daddy issue? (5)
 
7:19 AM
this is SONNY ddef (sonny bono, and issue meaning offspring)
 
7:53 AM
@Jafe Yep!
 
8:15 AM
CCCC: Extremely venerable Mediterranean city (6)
 
8:26 AM
@Jafe v_e Nice &lit. Very nice clue.
 
@msh210 thanks! that's correct
 
CCCC: Abandoned a character close to M? (4)
 
8:47 AM
raoul silva, clearly
 
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Q: What is a Jeeves Word™?

BassThis is in the spirit of the What is a Word/Phrase™ series started by JLee with a special brand of Phrase™ and Word™ puzzles. If a word conforms to a special rule, I call it a Jeeves Word™. Use the following examples to find the rule: Jeeves Words™ Not Jeeves Words™ SIR MADAM RANG CALLE...

 
9:20 AM
hello!
 
 
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11:21 AM
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Q: The Vowelburger™ Incident

a guyInspired by Avi's Vowelburger™ Riddle Last week, after English class at school, a few friends and I went to the local Vowelburger™ to get some lunch. Feeling hungry, we decided to order 13 burgers among the 4 of us. However, when our burgers were delivered to the table, John decided to make a bur...

 
 
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4:47 PM
@msh210 Could this be LEFT = (cryptic) ddef: "abandoned", "character close to M?" which is "L" which can mean "left"
 
5:07 PM
@samm82 Good idea, but I'm afraid it's not my intention.
 
5:45 PM
math puzzle: Can you find a natural number n such that you can perfectly simulate the outcome of tossing two distinguishable independent fair coins using the outcome of tossing n indistinguishable independent fair coins? To put it a different way, can you find an n so that you can partition the n+1 binomial coefficients \binom{n}{i} into four subsets with equal sums?
2
 
6:18 PM
Unrelated to the CCCC, but I've seen compounds used in selection indicators, eg. "horntail" meaning "tail of horn = N". Can this be done with other indicators, eg. "beforehand" meaning "before the word 'hand'"?
 
 
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7:25 PM
It can be done but some people will be grumpy about it. (As some people are grumpy about horntail -> N.)
 
7:42 PM
That makes sense; thanks!
 
 
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9:43 PM
Out of pure curiosity, is it a rule that suggestions on the fort nightly topic challenges should be marked as community wiki?
 
I believe it is set to automatically make it a community wiki
 
:O
thanks for the info
 
I could be wrong but I believe that is the case
No problem!
 
Well, I don't know if it's automatically set as a community wiki, but you don't get any reputation for posting on Meta
So
 
Maybe C4 is BOND, where "a character close to M" = James Bond, "abandoned" = unclaimed, aka "on bond"?
 
9:49 PM
@PrinceNorthLæraðr I believe its possible for a mod or someone to set it so all answers are automatically community wiki but not sure
 
Huh, that's interesting
 
Ah nvm, worked it out
All asnwers to a question that is a community wiki are automatically community wiki
So they are set community wiki automatically, but not by a mod, just by marking the question itself as one
 
@msh210 C4 guess, possibly?
 
10:11 PM
@Sciborg Ooh I like that - I had a similar idea with M from Death Note, thinking the answer could be "Near", but I couldn't get the wordplay ("close" in the clue couldn't be a definition - not at an end; Near also went by "N", making "a character close to M" apply twice, almost going into &lit territory, but not quite)
 
Heh - Death Note had also come to mind for me, but I don't think msh watches it :P
Seems more likely a Bond reference
 
agreed
 
10:30 PM
i think it's LEFT like samm82 said but the second def is the left arrow key on the keyboard
 
...?
 
Lurking.
And sulking.
Why do the most creative persons in the world close a puzzle made by another?
 
@Jafe Unfortunately, LEFT wasn't the answer
@Sciborg Might also make sense with the question mark?
 
Yeah, I like BOND being it, although "abandoned" = "out on bond" is a little bit of a stretch maybe
maybe it's some other James Bond character, i dunno
 
^ see? creativity! Right on, @Sciborg.
Creativity is so different from destruction.
Who'd know?
We would.
(i won't post videos this time)
But why? Why don't solvers see some of my most esoteric puzzles as puzzles nonetheless?
Is there a puzzlesphere?
?!
Think about that.
Until it hurts. It has hurt me a lifetime.
Every time i stole a puzzle, or even a quiz, book it hurt. Well.
Puzzles are my outlet. You should see what harm my inlet endures. My pants are grimy from pavement. Time for laundry!
. . . sorry to rant, don't get me started
 
11:02 PM
@Sciborg I've never heard "on bond" to mean that afair, don't see why "bond" would then mean it, and, anyway, didn't intend that answer.
@Sciborg Nope.
 
unbond?
 
@Jafe That wasn't my intention. Also, what keyboard has it near the M?
@PrinceNorthLæraðr I only said it wasn't with that wordplay.
 
Q!
 
unQed
 
11:05 PM
@humn Q.E.D.
 
worth a try!
 
Unrelated, but can an adverb anagrind go before the fodder? I can't seem to find anything online about it, and I'm not sure if it's legal
 
@samm82 "Supply pots for a dog (4)"? Yeah, I think that works.
 
badly swimming and swimming badly mean the same thing so i don't see why not
 
Perfect, just double checking - I remember reading somewhere that it wasn't acceptable, but I couldn't remember where, so maybe I'm remembering wrong
 
HTM
11:10 PM
Maybe the "character close to M" is <, which can be interpreted as pointing left, hence the question mark
 
@msh210 had to google keyboard layouts since i'm on mobile but yeah, it's not as close as i thought
 
@Jafe , you and i suffer/delight from the same source, where word order doesn't matter
Takais ei mitaa""n.
(That's pseudo-Finnish for "however it comes together doesn't matter")
(Much shorter in Suomi/Finnish)
As long as it comes together.
(That's English.)
 
speaking of keyboard layouts, my new laptop's keyboard has one key fewer than required for the finnish layout so now i have no | > < keys when typing finnish
 
!
 
which makes sense since they have 3 fewer letters in english but still pretty annoying
probably need to make a custom layout and put them behind alt+something
 
11:25 PM
! I learned to type on a sewing machine. Suomen.
I know every key you're typing of.
Not joking now, i learned on a Suomen typewriter with every key in place.
Now i'm on whatever this is.
Which is why i can't find the a" or o" keys.
Life is tough.
(No i don't care about the Ao key. There are enough Os to go around.)
(So tempted to video)
Every sentence, even if parenthetical, is a taunt if not a puzzle.
That was nonsequitoriable. Sorry.
Someone once told me to lead into a follow-up. Still learning.
. . .
@msh210, Abandoned character close to M? Slash?
 
11:45 PM
@humn The answer will be 4 letters long, and "slash" doesn't match the tense of "abandoned"
 
< is actually a "less than" sign, and "less" has lots of meanings, some of which are fairly close to "abandoned" but not quite
 
this is fun!
 
@msh210 Not sure if juxtaposition works in both directions, but what about LONE = def: abandoned, L (character close to M) + ONE (a)
 
11:57 PM
I think you'd need something in the wordplay to indicate that the "a" -> ONE comes after the L.
 
Weird idea: interpret "close" as "c lose" to get (-c)HAR+M, except that it doesn't use "a" and "to", and verb tense mismatch again
 
Character that can't catch Jerry but sometimes comes close to M (3)
 

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