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5:01 PM
@tchrist See, now you're just over the top. I replied with restraint and decorum. This is just rude.
 
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Q: Do English native speakers say "oh, I figured"?

xczzhhAn English teacher in China made a long list of regular expressions the other day, two of which are: Oh, I figured. (meaning, I saw it coming ) Where can I wash my hands? ( meaning, where is the bathroom?) Do these two expressions really sound natural to native speakers?

 
Already voted.
 
comment etiquette prevents me from just writing "yes"
 
@MattЭллен Standing on ceremony, then?
 
@JSBձոգչ Probably a distinction without a difference. The point, probably lost by now, is that religious calendars exist in parallel with civic calendars, and it's pointless to argue whether Sunday ends or begins the week because it can, and does, do both depending on what building you're standing in.
 
5:04 PM
@ΜετάEd oh. well, i'm sitting in my house in my pajamas, and i declare that today is the last day of the week because then i get to play Magic tonight and sleep in tomorrow
 
@tchrist he must have fallen in front of me
 
@Robusto No, I’m completist.
 
@JSBձոգչ I agree. because I am sleeping in tomorrow because I've booked holiday and I have friends from far places visiting
 
@Matt woo! have fun!
 
well, far place
@JSBձոգչ thanks!, I think we will
 
5:06 PM
@JSBձոգչ Sure. And then closely aligned with late night gaming sessions, there's the question of when the next day begins. In various religions it's sunset; commonly the civic day begins at midnight.
 
@JSBձոգչ Play Blue.
 
But in my house it ain't tomorrow until you've slept.
 
@tchrist Well, you can't have everything.
 
@tchrist i hate blue.
 
@MattЭллен Yay fun!
 
5:07 PM
@MattЭллен Oh, I figured you would follow comment etiquette :-D
 
actually, i'm coming around to blue, but i'm really a white/black/green guy at heart
 
@JSBձոգչ bows
 
@MattЭллен See, the cool thing about regular expressions is that you don't have to make long lists of them. They are meant to cover multiple cases. feels proud of self
 
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@JSBձոգչ As you can see, I like all things blue.
 
lol
@JSBձոգչ I've been playing the 2013 computer game, and Red seems to be good for the encounters I've done so far
 
5:09 PM
@JSBձոգչ There is nothing you have that I cannot hack, sleight, control, move, steal, copy, unsummon, counter, or mill into oblivion. I ever prefer to play on your turn, not my own. Your game is mine.
And you will learn to be very polite when playing against blue.
 
@KitFox Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. :)
@tchrist as in "sorry I beat you again"?
 
Blue is not there to make friends.
 
@tchrist see, this is why i hate blue.
no, it isn't
but that's okay! i'll just cast thrun off of my cavern of souls and then put rancor on him
gg, sir
 
@Robusto By their postings shall ye know them.
 
@ΜετάEd New Year is so overrated. Nobody ever celebrates Old Year — that awesome year in which they could lay back and slack and procrastinate to their heart's content. Instead everybody goes crazy about the year in which they will have to keep all their stupid resolutions. That's like celebrating Monday, to the 52nd power.
 
5:12 PM
@Robusto I just saw a "User was removed" explanation on my reputation page from three hours ago. That what you saw too?
 
@JSBձոգչ You forgot to say mother may I.
 
@tchrist Mom is a white card
 
@RegDwightАΑA I like celebrating another trip around the sun.
 
user19161
@ΜετάEd Well, most of us got it I think.
 
@JasperLoy Huh. Did we figure out who it was?
Wasn't NS.
 
user19161
5:13 PM
@ΜετάEd No, I tried to divine but failed.
 
@ΜετάEd yes, a trip that has barely even begun, and which for all you know you will never complete.
 
user19161
Just a not very active user I guess.
 
why haven't all our followers voted on the ELL questions? 5 votes per follower yet there just over 200 votes cast
oh
 
@RegDwightАΑA No, not that one. Celebration of the completion of another trip around the sun. Like a birthday.
 
maybe there are some down votes...
well, I can't tell
but still, there won't be that many
 
5:15 PM
@ΜετάEd but that's my point, then it must be called "Old Year". Which it isn't.
 
one year older one year closer to climate change catastrophe!
 
I mean, that's like celebrating your birthday by calling it deathday.
 
@JSBձոգչ Tithes you with [gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/….
 
contemplates deathday celebrations...
 
@RegDwightАΑA The name New Year's Day doesn't have to mean you're celebrating the upcoming year. Hey, any reason is good enough to pop the top off a beer.
 
5:16 PM
Dumb thing.
 
that's why i use magiccards.info
 
square followed by square, curved followed by curved
 
For example on a person's first birthday the celebration is, hey, you've been around for a year. That's not a celebration of the future: it's a celebration of the present, and the past.
 
@ΜετάEd then call it "Any Reason's Eve". And make it happen every day, twice a day.
 
@RegDwightАΑA Pish. Tosh.
 
5:17 PM
NO U
I am having a beer right now. Contemplating about all the things I haven't done in the years behind.
 
user19161
RegDwight should change his username to Reg Dwight.
 
user19161
@RegDwightАΑA What are you waiting for? Get them all done by tonight!
 
Sorry, as per Shog, no unicode whitespaces are allowed in names.
 
Is language of blacks not accepted by majority in commercials in the United States of America? — Derfder 2 mins ago
Harrumph.
 
GET N 2 NO U ... GET N 2 NO L ABOUT U ...
 
5:19 PM
Define "language of blacks".
 
Ebonics.
 
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@RegDwightАΑA Double negation for one.
 
Define language.
 
AAVE.
 
user19161
@tchrist What one speaks.
 
5:19 PM
Define black.
 
@KitFox yes, that's what the comment right above his says, and yet he goes with "language of blacks".
 
Hey, did I ever tell you how I'm biracial?
 
Did you ever not?
 
@RegDwightАΑA Person is ESL. Forgive. Almost certainly referring to black dialect, or whatever you want to call it.
 
@KitFox You ran twice?
 
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5:20 PM
@KitFox I think so but I forgot.
 
@ΜετάEd I'm just saying. It takes one person to get offended.
 
The one thing you can say about blacks’ language is that it is colorful.
Assuming black is a color. Which it isn't.
 
@tchrist offended
 
Black is the absense of all color. Back to physics class for you.
 
heh heh heh.
 
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5:22 PM
@RegDwightАΑA absence
 
@JasperLoy that was a czech if you were still with us.
 
@JasperLoy He just does that to try to bait me into correcting him overzealously.
 
@tchrist Nonsence.
 
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@RegDwightАΑA I am a bit cautious about these, given the case with "practice" and "license" in AmE.
 
@JasperLoy I am pretty sure that I typed a C there. But this is a Russian keyboard. Where you have C it has S.
 
user19161
5:24 PM
@RegDwightАΑA Ah, I had about 100 keyboards to choose from during installation.
 
(I wish David Wallace were around to appreciate my joke.)
 
user19161
I now know that my keyboard is "US English".
 
sees your satem and raises you a centum
 
user19161
I think the world should be made to use one language and one keyboard and one ...
 
@tchrist I check. Show us your centunse.
 
user19161
5:25 PM
@ΜετάEd I just tried out CentOS, not too good.
 
@ΜετάEd Centumae's.
 
@JasperLoy Check out Inferno.
 
calls for ichthyocentaurs to bale him out of deep water
@RegDwightАΑA sends you a cat for your mice
 
@ΜετάEd so are you agreeing with me? Most people aren't following the ecclesiastical calendar, no matter how religious they are.
 
@tchrist actually the only reasonable answer you can give, and I am surprised that nobody has done that yet, is, "If you don't have the slightest idea how any of this pans out, you have no business using such expressions in the first place. And this is nothing a stranger from the Internet can teach you in five minutes, either."
 
5:30 PM
@RegDwightАΑA Well, I told him he would just look stoopid.
 
I must have overlooked that. Chances are, so will he.
 
@Mitch Most Catholics are following it whether they are aware of it or not, if they are participating in any way in weekly mass.
 
I only typed it in a few seconds ago.
 
@MattЭллен also, character limits.
 
Ah I see it now.
 
5:31 PM
@Mitch indeed - enforced etiquette!
 
@MattЭллен that's what I took it to mean.
 
@Mitch And I'm disagreeing with you. You are both right about what day the week begins and so you are both wrong to disagree with one another. One of you is arguing from a civil calendar and the other from an ecclesiastical calendar. You're arguing past one another.
 
@ΜετάEd Are you seeing double?
 
@ΜετάEd Are you seeing double?
 
@tchrist Yes.
@MattЭллен Yes.
 
5:34 PM
Hey some nice Favre-related ping pongs. I get some steady value for my money.
 
Yeah well, wish I did. It’s easier to drive a camel through the eye of a needle than for me to incur positive rep by light of day.
 
Pfft. Day.
Jul 1 '11 at 13:19, by RegDwight
@MrDisappointment "Do you agree that the Sun is overrated, because it shines when it's bright anyway, unlike the Moon?"
Moonlight ftw. They even name sonatas after him!
 
user19161
I wonder if we can now live on another planet if Earth is destroyed.
 
Quick check: how many of you can spell Vierwaldstätter See?
 
user19161
Not me.
 
5:37 PM
@ΜετάEd OK. I see your point.
But you're effing wrong then
 
@Mitch Wouldn't be the first time.
 
nobody folows the ecclesiastical calendar
 
@Mitch The guy arguing that Sunday starts the week does.
 
And your being wrong can only lead to bad things in this world.
 
What's a calendar? Perhaps I follow one.
 
5:38 PM
Your "nobody" has already bitten the dust.
 
Quoth Ulysses.
 
Yeah, that dude is just playing with an argument, whereas, I and untold millions of unconscious wage slaves, are right.
 
Bad karma.
 
@ΜετάEd It bit the dust that remains after the ecclesiastical calendar dried up and blew away.
 
Mr Bloom reviewed the nails of his left hand, then those of his right hand.
quoted Ulysses.
@Mitch It's all still there. Ask the Jews what year it is. They'll tell you it depends.
 
5:41 PM
@ΜετάEd Yes: on whether you ask them now or next year.
 
@ΜετάEd Gah! are we talking about what people do or what it's fun to talk about?
 
indeed, it depends on what year it is. Like this year, it's 2012. last year it is 2011
 
user19161
@MattЭллен 2012 is also the end of the world for some.
 
@Mitch Yes.
 
Philistines!
a.d. VI Id. Aug. MMDCCLXV AUC
 
5:43 PM
I found a coin that said 79BC
I had to pay someone to buy it.
 
@Mitch Kal. Ian. DCLXXV AUC
 
@ΜετάEd you missed our discussion of meta votes.
 
Ask a Jew what day it is and the answer is 8 August 2012 or 20 Av 5772 depending on what building they're in. Ask a Muslim and add 20 Ramadan 1433. If he's Persian, also add 18 Mordad 1391.
 
user19161
@ΜετάEd Too hard for me. Life should be easier.
 
@Mitch Hope so. I've already got enough Μετά.
 
5:45 PM
@ΜετάEd when's lunch?
 
Then there are the Chinese, etc.
And a Chinese etc. is a strange thing, let me tell you.
 
the Balinese calendar has cycles of length 1.
I know! Right?
 
@Mitch Depends on whether it's 8 August 2012 or 20 Ramadan 1433. If the latter, the answer is "sunset".
 
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Q: Dimensional reduction with synonomy and polysemy

SiddI was wondering something for a computer science project I am doing. Documents usually have too many distinct words to process on a computer efficiently. One solution is to map all words to a single synonym. For instance, 'giant' and 'enormous' and 'huge' would all map to big. I also want to acco...

 
@Mitch lunch time is doubly an illusion
 
5:48 PM
@ΜετάEd pick your depends, then what? I'm picking Euro-US-centric. Answer: Monday.
 
That is a really fascinating question, but I don't think it is a good fit for our format. I don't think we could give you a definitive answer, and the site isn't set up for discussions. You could come and discuss it in our chat room if you have enough reputation. — KitFox 1 min ago
This looks so much more authoritative on the left side of a diamond.
 
@MattЭллен That's not right to say things like that.
Unless you get to eat lunch twice.
 
@Mitch > Time is an illlusion, lunch time doubly so
 
@ΜετάEd yeah, but no one ever comes to chat for that.
 
— Douglas Adams
 
5:49 PM
@Mitch Right. You can pick whatever you want. It's just a mistake to tell the other guy that he's wrong when he says it's Sunday.
 
@ΜετάEd yeah you can if you set the parameter.
 
@ΜετάEd giggles It is so hard to sit on my hands.
 
otherwise there's no 'depends'.
 
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@KitFox The diamond must be huge then.
 
@KitFox flagged
 
5:50 PM
Hahaha.
You guys make me lol.
 
@KitFox friends. nose. ~friend's nose.
 
@KitFox That's what we're for.
 
@KitFox laughing is also wrong.
 
i have no problem with the notion that Monday is the first day of the week in Europe
b/c it is
 
eff it. I'm not waiting. I'm getting my own goddamn coffee cake.
 
5:51 PM
but the first day of the week is Sunday in America
 
@JSBձոգչ OK. that seems rational.
 
and the American custom is more in line with history and traditional usage
that's all i'm saying!
 
22 hours ago, by ΜετάEd
Coffee cake all around.
Coffee cake was yesterday.
 
@JSBձոգչ and that also, if all you're talking about is printed calendars, where Sunday is the first day on the row of a week.
 
i like coffee cake, though
 
5:52 PM
no, Tuesday was yesterday
 
can we have crumb cake?
 
unless you're renaming the days now
 
But that does not correspond to how people act. they act as though Mocnday is the first of the week.
 
Let's rename today to Wednesday. Nobody will suspect!
 
@ΜετάEd OK, now you're just taunting me.
 
5:53 PM
@Mitch that's why we have the word "workweek". to distinguish different kinds of weeks
 
@ΜετάEd settled.
 
@ΜετάEd hmmm, it's ok, but how about wensdee?
 
@ΜετάEd I'm asking about migrating.
Oh, wait, it was coleopterist who suggested it.
 
@KitFox I see that, and I flagged it.
And the author agreed. So it's a great idea whose time has come.
 
I have to check with their mods first.
Wahoo! I did it!
in lɪŋˈgwɪstɪks, 27 secs ago, by KitFox
These big girl underpants sure feel good.
 
5:57 PM
yay!
 
user19161
@KitFox That sentence is polysemantic.
 
You already said that to me. I'm sorry, but you can't use the same sentence twice in this room unless you quote it.
 
Look, Reg, look! I migrated a question all by myself!
 
user19161
yesterday, by Jasper Loy
@RegDwightАΑA This sentence is polysemantic.
 
user19161
5 mins ago, by Jasper Loy
@KitFox That sentence is polysemantic.
 
user19161
6:02 PM
Note that the two sentences are distinct @reg.
 
Jul 27 '11 at 14:06, by Matt Ellen
yay!
 
@Matt I sent you an email.
 
I will find it!
 
user19161
@KitFox Wow, I am jealous now.
 
Oh sorry. Nothing personal.
Well, it's kind of personal. There's no good way to answer that.
I'm not stealing your boyfriend, Jasper.
;-)
 
user19161
6:05 PM
Hehe, I am not gay, though I can be attracted to guys.
 
I'm not gay either, even though I engage in sexual relations with women.
 
I'm not gay all the time, either. Sometimes I'm sad.
 
Whose boyfriend Jasper are you not stealing exactly?
 
user19161
Like I said before sexuality is a continuous spectrum.
 
@JasperLoy If you're not having sex continuously, you're doing it wrong?
 
user19161
6:07 PM
Nobody lies at the extreme ends. In an extreme sense, everyone is bisexual.
 
@JasperLoy Nobody can look at bonobo behavior and think about "sucking up at work" the same way again.
 
nobody can look at a bonobo beaver
 
facepalm
 
unless there are some crazy genetic experiments going on that I don't know about
 
@ΜετάEd Yes.
 
6:15 PM
@KitFox and I saw it, and I was proud, and still am.
 
:D
 
user19161
Careful, foxes eat owls.
 
Owls also eat frogs, who eat foxes. QED.
 
Snowy owls are much too big for a little foxen like me.
 
@KitFox Is that the "royal" foxen?
 
6:19 PM
Y..ye...um...y...yeah. yesh. yes.
 
user19161
@matt I visited your website again. Still the same colours. You like them? It looks bad to me, but as long as you like it it's fine.
 
I still like them
I have been considering a redo, but I've not come up with an idea yet
 
Geezis. I read that as "I still kill them."
 
murder on the mind
 
user19161
Well, my idea would be to change the entire background to a nice blue.
 
6:21 PM
Really? Not a hideous blue?
 
user19161
Blue is not hideous by definition.
 
So your sentence makes even less sense.
 
I think #0000FF would be unsightly to say the least
 
6:22 PM
Reg is amazing.
 
user19161
Try "steelblue".
 
user19161
I use it everywhere.
 
user19161
#4682B4
 
@KitFox that's how tanks work.
 
@MattЭллен That is the hex equivalent of a blow to the gut: OOOOFF!!
 
6:23 PM
Not remarkable in the least. Take any tank and see for yourself.
 
@JasperLoy No stealing blue in chat.
 
#6699cc. Nuff said.
 
user19161
@Robusto You missed out the "this".
 
user19161
The standard form is "No XXX in this chat".
 
@RegDwightАΑA Boring.
 
6:24 PM
@Robusto hence the nuff.
 
@RegDwightАΑA what is that, dark brown?
 
Though of course saying #ccc is boring is like saying that C♯ is boring. The question is what you make out of it.
@Mitch blue. And not dark.
I try to sneak it onto all our sites.
 
@RegDwightАΑA New synonym for boring? You phrasemaker, you.
 
@Robusto that's Phrasendrescher for you.
 
@JasperLoy You take your standard forms and shove 'em. I'm non-standard all the way.
 
6:29 PM
@RegDwightАΑA Am eager to see these vulpivorous frogs.
 
Of course you are. Goes without saying.
I will show you for 100 tögrög.
 
I will go and get something resembling food. tögrög pip
 
@JasperLoy She’s still not stealing your boyfriend, because borrowing is not stealing. Just make sure she sends him through the laundry before returning him.
 
@RegDwightАΑA argh...oh...is that exactly Jasper's? I had to translate out of hex and then try it in effing Windows color picker.
 
What does vulpivorous frog kibble look like? Little foxen?
 
6:32 PM
@tchrist For best results, just download your friends.
 
@Robusto Pretty sure shoving is often pretty standardly involved in sex.
Pretty picture or no.
 
@Mitch I have no idea what Jasper's is, but it's not unsimilar.
 
Reg's is bluer. Jasper's more green.
Both nice picks.
 
Oh. I'm dunb. Jasper just gave his as 4682B4 which is of course not terribly far away.
 
user19161
@Mitch Yes, mine is "steelblue", no more no less.
 
6:34 PM
Huh, guess that's not the "official video" I thought it was.
 
You dawg.
 
Saw The Graduate just the other day.
 
Oh for goodness’ sake, I’ve run out of close votes today! Life has no meaning.
 
@tchrist here, take mine.
 
gobble gobble
 
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6:37 PM
@Robusto At first I thought that was something NSFW.
 
Gibblegobble burtasyub nicetrump. — delete Aug 26 '10 at 1:31
 
Have to...
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Q: What is the difference between close friend and closed friend?

giraI am wondering what is the difference between close friend and closed friend? Is closed friend a correct form? Thank you.

Unless it’s about closet friends.
 
user19161
@tchrist LOL
 
@tchrist the difference is that between a close question and a closed question.
 
@RegDwightАΑA @Mitch says there’s no difference, but he’s elocutionally challenged.
 
6:41 PM
He's a locust?
 
user19161
@tchrist I think a closed friend would be the opposite of a close friend; one has shut him out.
 
@JasperLoy I think a made up answer is the opposite of a useful one.
 
user19161
@RegDwightАΑA It could also be a close friend who is too closed he is not ready to open up and share his secrets.
 
Yay! A what is this grammar question!
 
@RegDwightАΑA And?
 
6:44 PM
@tchrist I would think that is more visually challenged unless you doubt my ability to use the word 'no' consistently.
argh--- I thought you were talking about colors.
 
@RegDwightАΑA Well, he did apologize for the breadth.
 
@KitFox Apologies for halitosis are not acceptable.
@RegDwightАΑA Hm, which?
 
@RegDwightАΑA "Keep your friends close and your enemies closed."
 
Hey, so the problem I had with my data not binding was...I wasn't binding it.
 
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Q: What is this structure?

EnglishAsASecondLanguageConsider the following sentence: The Bactrian camel is well adapted to the extreme climate of its native Mongolia, having thick fur and underwool that keep it warm in winter and also insulate against summer heat. My question is about the italicized part. My usage of English is grounded ...

 
6:46 PM
Damn it, Reg!
You always get updates minutes before me.
Wait!
I know!
SE is on a 30-second delay that only mods get in real-time.
Splains everything.
My work here is done.
 
@JasperLoy This looks like a planted question.
 
@KitFox use some butter and flour.
 
I added an egg too, for good measure.
 
Doesn't work for soups, which is what my business is all about.
 
Not looking forward to Windows 8.
 
6:48 PM
Looking backward to Windows ME.
 
@Robusto Upgrade to Mac.
@Robusto Upgrade to Linux.
@Robusto Upgrade to (pace Seymour) Crayola.
 
@Robusto pfft. Of course Gabe Newell will hate Windows 8. He still vividly remembers what happened when he tried to install Vista.
 
@RegDwightАΑA Hahaha.
Still, Windows 8 is looking like, uh, an enormous turd in the making.
 
And that's about the time when turds look best.
 
user19161
Windows 8 looks good to me. It would be the best Microsoft OS ever.
 
6:56 PM
OK, fanboi. Noted.
 
i think that Win8 has a good chance of being both the best Microsoft OS ever and a huge commercial flop
 
user19161
I never used Mac, it's true.
 
i've been using it for a while and think it's fine, but it's certainly different, and runs a big risk of consumer backlash
 
user19161
@JSBձոգչ The preview?
 
yeah
 
user19161
6:57 PM
Daniel is using it too.
 
@Robusto Wrongo mi Bobo. Merely a vehement and vociferous livelong adversary to the Horror Out of Redmond. I’d opt for nose-booger seppeku before I would suffer that witch to live. Back to the swamps with you, spawn of Satan!
 

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