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We could use some help on this one if someone knows a bit about protein folding:
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Q: Can AlphaFold predict protein structures around metals well?

jw_(1) Commonly, the metal is at the active site which needs the most prediction precision. (2) Typically, there is only one (or a few) metals in a protein, which contains far more other atoms. So, the structural data that could be used to train AlphaFold could contain far less information about the...

 
 
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I am not clear with joules mechanical equivalent of heat please suggest me a good source which can tell which type of energy really converts to heat
 
 
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DavidOut of curiosity, after I learnt the use of mathjax if I thought necessary( obviously may be not for others) I use the colour code to mark any point of my question, but some users suggest edits or reputed users usually remove it by editing it! I am not sure why this happens? Is it a regulation? O...

 
 
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Q: Can I answer resource recommendation questions by answer it directly?

jw_For example, question Q care about problem A and need some material about problem A, can I answer the question by solve problem A directly?

 
 
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11:29 AM
Hi All
 
 
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3:50 PM
COUNTDOWN TO WINTERBASH 2020 don't let coV dampen your spirit
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4:10 PM
@JohnRennie This seems like it might be something you know about. Is there any reason that water should be more prone to bubbling up when it's colder?
 
"Bubbling up" ?
You mean when your pour water whether it entrains air to form bubbles?
Or the way standing water in containers forms small bubbles on the surface of the container?
 
I have a practical example I'm basing this off of. I have a "water pipe" that I usually leave in my shed. If it was cold over the day and I go to use my water pipe at night, it seems like it's more prone to have excessive bubbling, to the point that the water can bubble through the pipe.
And into the mouthpiece
 
Ah, a hookah?
 
Bong would be the right term (thankfully in Canada they aren't "for tobacco only" anymore)
But the same idea without just a mouthpiece on it instead of a hose
Actually I think it applies to hookahs the same. I feel like I had that happen with a cold hookah before too
 
I can't think of a reason. The viscosity of water increases with decreasing temperature so it could be a viscosity effect. Apart from this pure water doesn't have any tendency to bubble more at low temperature. If some surface active impurity has got in then it might well be temperature sensitive. A lot of surfactants are quite temperature sensitive.
@JMac I grew up in the Sudan where hookahs were routinely used, so I'm used to that name. I always associate the term "bong" with hippies :-)
 
4:19 PM
@JMac Hear, hear.
@JohnRennie Sudan? Wow, what was it like growing up there?
 
Europeans lived a privileged life there, so for me as a European child it was great. I'm not sure life was so great for your average Sudanese citizen.
We had to leave in something of a hurry when there was a coup and a fundamentalist government took over. And that was pretty much it for Sudan as a decent place for anyone to live.
It's now a basket case of a country.
 
@JohnRennie Ah okay. This could be it actually. The water gets dirty pretty quickly, so it wouldn't surprise me if something it picked up had to do with it. And yeah I'm just used to differentiating bong and hookah, because if you got the two confused you might get a bit more relaxed than you expected lol
 
@JohnRennie technically two countries now
 
@JMac until this point I was trying very hard to figure out why you'd use the "water pipe at night" :D
 
@NiharKarve Both of them basket cases, though (North) Sudan has recently kicked out a particularly villainous leader so maybe there is hope.
South Sudan discovered the only thing unifying it was killing North Sudanese, and as soon as they got independence they started killing each other instead.
 
4:29 PM
What's up!?
 
@ACuriousMind I must admit my first reaction was to think of plumbing, and that left me mightily puzzled :-)
 
@ACuriousMind I was trying to be a bit subtle, but then realized there's not even much point anymore. It's not like I'm doing anything wrong in Canada now lol.
 
@skullpatrol What happens at the winter bash?
 
we bash the winter
 
@Charlie We get hats.
 
4:32 PM
it's fun
 
:o
 
I wonder if John will use his elite hacker skills again this year to get a hat he shouldn't have.
 
It is surprisingly entertaining for such a basically silly idea :-)
 
4:34 PM
:-)
 
(not technically a result of Winterbash but still one of my favourite applications of hats)
 
@ACuriousMind Coool!
 
@RewCie Anything from vixra should be taken with a pinch of salt
 
@NiharKarve No, sometimes I see gold coins of fun there..
Laughter is good
 
the kind of pinch where the meal will be inedible due to saltiness
 
4:36 PM
so is Vixra
 
@ACuriousMind Okay I hadn't seen that before but that conversation is great.
 
> In recent three preprints S. Marshall claims to give proofs of several famous
conjectures in number theory, among them the twin prime conjecture and Goldbach’s conjecture. A claimed proof of Beal’s conjecture would even imply an elementary proof of Fermat’s Last Theorem.
Michael Atiyah grew up in Sudan as well, though I don't recall meeting him.
 
(Obligatory this is not about a specific user) can the voting irregularity bot autosuspend users or is it only mods
 
@NiharKarve only mods (but since the bot "informs" us what it's doing there's at least sometimes a direct link between the bot correcting something and some users getting suspended)
 
@JohnRennie reminds me, if you've ever been to the US, has anyone ever asked you if you know the Queen personally
@ACuriousMind ah, fair enough
 
4:43 PM
Oh yeah, I always forget about hats until they pop up again haha
 
@NiharKarve I have a very English accent, and it did amuse people I met in the mid west. I don't recall being asked if I knew the Queen :-)
 
@JohnRennie I've been asked if I knew their friend Sam from Scotland, aka "that other part of England"
 
:-)
 
Random info, but it has been about a week since I was around someone who later tested positive for Covid. So I am playing a fun game of "is this a symptom?"
 
Ouch! :-( Best wishes to you and your immune system!
I seem to be getting more colds than usual for some reason. Every time I get a cold I check my temperature and every time it's normal - so far ...
 
4:50 PM
Yeah I think that is what is happening to me. I have had the slightest congestion for the past couple of days. But I don't think it is related to this instance because it started way too soon after I was with them
It's my sister-in-law and one of her children who tested positive
Her other child was sick earlier but had tested negative. So I don't really know
One child is 2 years old and is in the "hey let's spew saliva around for no reason" phase. So if I don't get Covid it will be a miracle haha
 
@JohnRennie Oh okay, I didn't have known this earlier that he's so famous crank that people are writing papers on his written papers
First two paragraphs were enough to get the crankiness introduction of him.
@JohnRennie I'm stunned! Google his name!
chills my spine!
Are they same?
 
The murderer? I doubt it :-)
 
lol
 
It's a common name.
 
Oh okay... But Imagine the plight of someone googling this mathematician and getting that serious face on results!
 
He hasn't been writing after 2017...
 
@BioPhysicist Hopefully you'll at least get mild symptoms or be asymptomatic. I imagine the paranoia would be pretty brutal.
 
Yeah that is what I am thinking. I haven't been feeling too paranoid though; I think I have made peace with the idea haha. I figured the longer this goes on then I am bound to get it at some point anyway
But I guess I am right in the sweet spot to start showing symptoms though, so we will see
 
@JohnRennie Can you check this paper? atleast it is well written, rendered with graphs and citations and all...
 
@RewCie I have some paint that I have to watch while it dries. This is more important, and more entertaining, than checking papers on Vixra.
 
5:04 PM
@JohnRennie hahaha! Sounds fun!
 
which color of paint?
 
@BioPhysicist Yeah from what I understand it's a lot less likely to be terrible if you're younger and don't already have related health conditions. I don't think getting it would be that bad for me. That said it also doesn't seem that likely I will catch it around here, especially given that I don't go out much right now.
 
@ACuriousMind any colour will do :-)
 
@JohnRennie sure, but the entertainment factor greatly varies with the color!
 
@JohnRennie What are you drawing?
 
5:06 PM
@RewCie it was a weak attempt at a joke. "Watching paint dry" is a notoriously boring activity.
 
Not gonna lie I might end up watching paint dry tomorrow. I decided to mess with another guitar hero guitar, and I have all the electronics taken out and the outside sanded ready for some spray paint. Knowing me, and how fast spray paint can dry, I will probably actually basically sit around waiting for coats to dry.
 
@JMac Yeah, exactly. We have been trying to be careful, but we were unware of how much my sister-in-law was being in contact with other people, and she didn't let us know her son had symptoms when we were coming over
 
@JohnRennie Okay... I though you were actually enjoying paint dry..
 
I recently painted a room, and I thought the different patterns of drying based on how thick the paint was, when that part was painted, etc. looked kind of cool
So I did get some amusement out of watching paint dry haha
 
My room is mint yellow, plain, boring
 
5:08 PM
mint yellow?
 
Kind of light yellow
 
Honestly I really like thinking about stupid stuff like that, so I honestly have done the same. It's like watching water evaporate, it can actually be kinda cool if you're in the mood.
 
Yes, watching eggs boil before eating... That's what I did today
 
Plus my first job was literally painting things with primer so they could be used outside, so I've had plenty of opportunity to watch paint dry.
 
5:10 PM
I feel like watching eggs boil is less amusing than watching paint dry
 
> The Covid-19 vaccine authorized for emergency use in the U.K. is a byproduct of 30 years of cancer research. Meet the husband-and-wife team behind the successful endeavor.
 
If you could see a cross section of the egg while it boiled then that could be different though
 
So basically what I'm saying is, we should put in a proposal for a Paint Drying SE. I think there would be a lot of questions that need answering related to the drying of paint.
 
I can't break the egg and then boil it.
 
Isn't that what poaching an egg is?
 
5:11 PM
yes, but boiled ones are different from that
they get hard...
 
Yes, we need an SE for food too!
 
But poaching an egg is breaking it and then boiling it
 
It's a skill!
 
@JMac Or something like "mundane SE"
 
5:14 PM
@JMac He's literally using a ruler!
 
Ok so rankings so far
1) Watching an Egg Poach
2) Watching Paint Dry
3) Watching an egg hard boil
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Where do we think ice melting falls in the spectrum? It seems like one of the fundamentals.
 
@JMac That was soo beautiful!
 
Also I think watching grass grow should clearly be below everything else so far.
 
Oh yeah... I feel like if you are watching grass grow you would essentially end up watching other things around the grass instead of the grass itself
I think the watching of ice melt greatly depends on the context
If you are at a Hibachi restaurant and you throw an ice cube onto the hot cooking surface, that is pretty fun
 
5:19 PM
Room temperature IMO, we're talking mundane.
 
hmmm
 
I'm thinking either 3 or 4 but can't decide. Boiling water with an object in it may literally be more exciting.
 
Maybe I should take egg poaching off entirely. That doesn't seem mundane enough
 
@JMac but watching sped-up recordings of grass growing is again kinda cool
 
Meh it's pretty basic cooking IMO, just cool.
Yeah time lapse can make a lot of stuff look cool.
 
5:23 PM
Today I binge watched Samsung and Microsoft product trailers
Damn cool!
Loved it
 
^ah, I've found something more boring than boiling eggs
 
@ACuriousMind cough cough
My father had surface book (not sure which one was it), I'm def getting a new one next year...
 
@RewCie what?
I know what advertisements are, I just don't know why you would voluntarily watch them :P
 
Depends on the advertisement
 
@BioPhysicist I am a stranger here, but personally I don't think boiling or poaching an egg can rank, as they don't take very long, compared to growing grass or paint drying
 
5:32 PM
And you can eat the egg ...
 
some people also eat or huff the paint
 
@JohnRennie true. Food is never boring!
 
John was sitting here the whole time screaming at his computer "BUT EGGS ARE FOOD".
 
@JMac I would have debated that statement as a child :P
For some reason I didn't like boiled oor fried eggs until I was older
 
5:34 PM
@JMac they are indeed :-)
 
@ACuriousMind same
 
@JohnRennie Woooow! Great meal today! I too had eggs (omelette) today
 
and I still think boiled eggs smell weird
 
I don't get any smell
 
Note the presence of two discrete rotational symmetry groups.
 
5:36 PM
@ACuriousMind they really do. I can't stand the smell, so I have to eat them fast
 
@JohnRennie is that...one giant fried egg made out of five eggs?
 
Rotational Physics in an eggshell
 
@TheDragonOfFlame huh, I've never met anyone who thought so, too!
 
@ACuriousMind the shape comes from being fried in a small round pan. It's three whole eggs then two extra yolks separated from the qhite.
If you just put in five eggs there's too much white.
 
Unpopular opinion: I like white hair and beard... Classy!
 
5:39 PM
sounds to me you might just need a bigger pan :P
 
That is a lot of slices of bread lol
 
The size was deliberately chosen to make the eggs sit nicely on top of the cheese and ham fritters. It was planned, honestly :-)
 
Master chef!
 
are they hashbrowns underneath?
 
@Charlie oh, I don't even notice that about John's platters anymore :P
 
5:40 PM
@Charlie ham and cheese fritters.
 
it looks really good
I just can't get over how much bread
 
That's nothing!
 
@Charlie its a whole loaf, at least
 
@Charlie this was Saturday's lunch:
 
Plot Twist: Bread size , plate size and the keyboard are smaller than regular ones to give an effect of too much food
 
5:42 PM
wow that also looks really good
 
@JohnRennie What's it? Looks poach on pizza
 
might have early dinner tonight
 
not sure if that was a pizza
 
That's a giant American style pancake as the base. The topping is a mixture of bacon and steak, cut into thin strips and fried then mixed with grated cheese.
 
Sounds yum!
 
5:43 PM
I've always wondered where you get steak cut up like that
that's what I always get at subway, it's really good
 
@RewCie It was really good. One of my rare successes :-)
 
@RewCie the entire point of Johns existence is to fool us into thinking he eats a lot
 
@Charlie UK version of a Philly cheesesteak?
 
dammit now I'm hungry
 
@JohnRennie Okay... Will replicate that next time, post covid, if I come to UK
 
5:44 PM
oh yeah that's exactly it
 
@ACuriousMind same :P
@TheDragonOfFlame :P
 
I actually used to get the big beef melt at subway but then they axed it from their menu
I haven't been in so long since all the shops closed down for so long, subway is definitely one of my favourite places to get food
tbh I'm surprised I wasn't single-handedly making the big beef melt financially viable for their company, it's all I would get
 
Yep, I too like Subways
but, I don't go regularly....
probably once a month or so...
 
I almost never eat out, but I would sometimes get it on the way back from work
 
I had a subway in front of the uni, just study from home started during covid :(
 
5:47 PM
I don't generally like going to sit-down restaurants, I feel like you have to choose who you go to those with very carefully, some people are a nightmare to eat at restaurants with
my uni didn't have a subway, just a co-op with extremely inflated prices
 
I usually go alone, if I have friends (rare), I'd invite them to home...
My uni has subway, domino's and McDonalds
 
the diversity of my daily meals has dropped massively due to not going to the canteen every day anymore
 
Although, I only prefer domino's
 
ngl I find dominoes ok until I realise how much it costs for what you're getting
 
lol, I just like their smell of pepperoni pizza
it's damn beautiful!
 
5:50 PM
well trust me they like the smell of your money more :P
 
uni pays for it
lol
 
oh really?
 
we just pay or uni annual fees
 
what.
 
yep
 
5:51 PM
oh in that case order whatever
I've never heard of a uni with dominoes subsidies before though
 
It's common here
 
in the UK you'd be lucky if the uni forks out for a can of soup for you
 
Free pizza?
 
@JohnRennie Nope. Def not
 
I feel a sudden urge to do a second degree.
 
5:52 PM
@JohnRennie come here, BTECH, it's cool
 
@Charlie note the mention of "annual fees" - depending on how high that is, it isn't really "free lunch" as we might imagine
 
You'll be teaching our teacher actual physics :P
 
ah
 
It's subsidized...
 
I much prefer paying for my own meals and not having to pay for being allowed to study :P
 
5:53 PM
I'm on scholarship, it's not very high
 
pizza scholarship
 
lol, sounds good. But a lot of other things too apart from pizza
 
unless everyone gets a scholarship by default I don't see why that matters to my point...
 
like movies too, once a year, uni pays it
 
Apr 19 '15 at 1:30, by ACuriousMind
My main undergraduate research consisted in finding out how many consecutive days I can eat frozen pizza :P
 
5:55 PM
Uni has a big hall for that... science or documentary movies mostly... boring....
@ACuriousMind If it is pepperoni pizza, It's infinite for me
 
lol
unfortunately in the UK we have tuition fees, repayable maintenance loans and no subsidies for pizzas or movies
 
Imagine what those IITs must be having... I've heard that their campus is bigger than the town I live...
 
we don't even get free tea
 
@Charlie seriously? No tea/coffee/milk during morning?
canteen?
 
okay, tuition fees + no pizza is truly the worst combination here :P
 
5:57 PM
I think the official motto was "if you want free food you'll have to pry it from our cold dead hands"
 
+ no canteen
 
wait you get free food at this canteen?
 
@Charlie yes! Added annually with accomodation charges
I think...
 
well I feel absolutely robbed
 
lmao
 
5:58 PM
at my work canteen we do, but the uni canteen was just cheaper than most other things nearby you could have gotten food from, not free
 
We also have an ATM at campus, no one uses it
everyone uses PhonePe
 
if you saw some of the prices at the on-campus food shop you'd think we were still living through the great depression
 
atleast in campus
 
@Charlie in Cambridge?
 
I wasn't at cambridge no
I did far too badly in school to consider applying there:P
 
6:01 PM
Ah. For some reason I thought you went to Cambridge. Oh well, ignore me and I'll shut up again.
 
Best poached eggs I've seen till date
 
not that I'm overly concerned about doxing myself but "uk" is as much as I'll specify :P
 
worth trying tomorrow, I've 2 eggs left in my fridge...
 
don't think I've ever made poached eggs before
 
easy, if you don't have any problem messing it like me...
I just checked today, my Aarogya Setu (COVID Tracking app) had tagged me in high risk for few days, it's normal now
I'm glad, it's okay now..
 
6:09 PM
@ACuriousMind do you have eidetic memory?
You somehow bring up old random posts outta nowhere
dated 2015,2010,2016...etc
 
@TheDragonOfFlame Short things can be boring too
@satan29 There is a search feature
So if you remember something about a conversation it should be too hard to find. Especially if it was a unique and memorable one.
 
to be fair, one has to remember a specific phrase from the message, but yeah, I'm not remembering the dates of these messages or anything
 
thats still impressive
remembering those specific phrases
 
@satan29 Not in the actual sense of the word because I'm not good at remembering things I only briefly see or hear, but I do have a good memory yes - I kinda coasted through most of my education where other people had to study a lot more to remember things
 
cool!
I also have a physics question to ask:
Why do we assume that the direction of the induced electric field (as a result of changing flux) is circumferential?
 
6:16 PM
Do you have a specific example of where this is assumed rather than derived?
 
My professor has made us do tons of question on faradays law
what he does is that
he choses a circular path and then claims that integral (E.dl) will simplify to 2pirE
 
Most likely the symmetry of the system tells you it has to be a circle
But it would help to see a specific example
 
@BioPhysicist hmm in that case I guess I will have to provide a specific example
"find an expression for the magnitude of the electric field E, at points within the magnetic field, at radius r from the center of the magnetic field"
 
Yeah, that sounds like a radially symmetric system
 
how can we conclude that E will be 1) a function of radial distance 2) always tangential at any point on a cicular path?
 
6:28 PM
Is this the case like a wire whose current is changing with time?
 
yes. magnetic field=B(t)
 
Are you familiar with vector calculus?
Or is this more of an introductory physics class?
 
 
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how to access an article in Nature without paying a fee?
 
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