This Is Fine

Tim Stone

12:39 AM

@Wipqozn I mean it probably is, provided Trump can find literally anyone else

The amount of Trump 2020 signs versus Trump | Pence 2020 signs was just hilariously demeaning

Georgia will certify results tomorrow after its recount produced the same Biden win

lol no wonder Rudy is all in, investigators got back to asking questions about his whole gig

Memor-X

must get Trump back into the White House to get those dam FBI's off his back

Tim Stone

12:57 AM

Things not looking so hot for Trump & family either

Memor-X

1:07 AM

@TimStone Trump can't make himself immune by quitting and getting a pardon from Pence right?

Wipqozn

@TimStone Was just coming here to share this

SaintWacko

@Memor-X Technically, I think so. Although that would require him quitting, which seems unlikely. Although I think he has to be found guilty before he can be pardoned?

Wipqozn

@TimStone I'm sure he'll pardon himself before he leaves in January, don't worry.

Eddie Kal

1:55 AM

Speaking of the Trump family, I thought this was a good read

IVANKA TRUMP WAS MY BEST FRIEND. NOW SHE’S MAGA ROYALTY

Sterno

@TimStone I thought I remember reading about this over a month ago

Eddie Kal

> Though he never remembered my name, he seemed to have a photographic memory for changes in my body. I’ll never forget the time Ivanka and I were having lunch with her brothers at Mar-a-Lago one day, and while Mr. Trump was saying hi, Don Jr. swiped half a grilled cheese sandwich off my plate. Ivanka scolded him, but Mr. Trump chimed in, “Don’t worry. She doesn’t need it. He’s doing her a favor.” Conversely, he’d usually congratulate me if I’d lost weight.

Sterno

Fauci is on CNN tonight. I know he won't spill any dirt on Trump, but man, I'm hoping

Jolenealaska

2:29 AM

@TimStone I'm reading that as intentionally trying to hog-tie the incoming administration if Congress manages to pass a stimulus package. So even if a good package passes under Trump, the implementation of it under Biden will look bad. Am I understanding that right?

Tim Stone

2:42 AM

Sort of. There are a number of things being used to prop up the economy right now in face of the pandemic, even as bad as the response has been, and now they're trying to shut them down right before the new administration takes over. So it'll definitely throw a wrench in the works

Wipqozn

@TimStone Holy shit that's terrible

This is why the GOP is objectively evil. Imagine if Obama tried to sabotage the county on his way out to just make Trump look bad.

Sterno

Thanks, Obama

Wipqozn

It's sociopathic

Sterno

@Wipqozn President Donald Trump told an ally that he knows he lost, but that he is delaying the transition process and is aggressively trying to sow doubt about the election results in order to get back at Democrats for questioning the legitimacy of his own election in 2016

Wipqozn

@Sterno "People running my campaign committed actual crimes, so time for revenge!"

Tim Stone

2:55 AM

@Unionhawk I take it back Ms. Monopoly would be the funniest choice

> Anthony Tata a well known conspiracy theorist who is now performing the duties of the top policy official at the @DeptofDefense following a Trump Administration purge of Pentagon officials has tested positive for coronavirus following a meeting with Lithuania’s defense minister

You may remember Anthony Tata from earlier misadventures:

Aug 3 at 15:21, by Tim Stone

> This is all a naked end-run around 5 U.S.C. § 3345(b). That provision of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act bars Tata from being named the Acting Undersecretary because he was nominated to the same job—*unless* he’s spent 90 days as the “first assistant.” That clock is now running

Memor-X

3:09 AM

@TimStone "well known conspiracy theorist " *imagines denying COVID* "tested positive for coronavirus" *imagines if Irony can be part of the conspiracy*

Jolenealaska

3:39 AM

Resuming her hosting duties live from quarantine, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow reveals that her longtime partner Susan has tested positive for COVID-19

Apparently, it was dicey for a while but she's looking good now.

Tim Stone

Romney releases statement denouncing Trump's pressure on state officials, though he was beaten to the punch by Sasse

Eddie Kal

4:30 AM

Still a spineless statement. Grow a pair Romney.

Unionhawk

no stop please advance the conservative project through normal means

Memor-X

5:17 AM

^ source

who is writing these

Jolenealaska

5:34 AM

I'm right-handed, but MS has pretty much wiped out the functionality of my right hand. So now I sign my name most often with my left hand. I have kept my voter registration up-to-date online for many years. So, the signature on my ballot looks nothing like the signature on my original voter registration. And that's just me. The GOP could get really squirrely with signature matching.

***

2065 Covid deaths in the US yesterday by WorldOmeter

Memor-X

6:12 AM

@Jolenealaska but did you vote for democrat? because if you don't they wouldn't care

Jolenealaska

Of course I did! :) Not that it did a damn bit of good in Alaska

Memor-X

8:05 AM

@Jolenealaska oh well then they also don't care because they won

bad signatures only count count if the vote for a democrat and in a state that Trump claims he won but reality says otherwise (which would be very blue state)

Jolenealaska

10:46 AM

What happens if a president-elect dies before inauguration?

nice breakdown for doom-scrolling

Napoleon Wilson

So they need to assassinate him and Harris together?

Jolenealaska

pretty much

Bottom line is that Harris would become president in a normal world. That's reassuring. Sort of.

Napoleon Wilson

11:04 AM

Well, in a normal world Biden would become president. ;-)

Jolenealaska

I've spent the day catching up on news because I've been otherwise involved for the past week or so. My neck is literally sore from all of the head-shaking I have done in the past 16 or so hours.

Jolenealaska

11:27 AM

Did you know that California went Republican every presidential election but one between 1952 and 1988?

The last Republican they went for was Bush Sr.

Sterno

12:31 PM

Georgia hand recount comes out pretty much the same. Wow, good thing those sneaky Dems knew not to use their Dominion vote switching/deleting ploy in Georgia, huh, Trump?

Jolenealaska

1:26 PM

More on an earlier discussion:

What Treasury's dispute with the Fed means for the incoming administration

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Wipqozn

@NapoleonWilson yeah I've been thinking about that. Could Trump just shoot both of them in cold blood, then pardon himself? BAM! VICTORY!

Although I suppose he wouldn't even need to pardon himself since the president can't be arrested, apparently.

lo lTrumps lawyers have even argued in court he should be allowed to straight up murder people while president theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/23/…

Nzall

@Wipqozn Wouldn't be the first time a white supremacist member of the government shoots a PoC

Tim Stone

2:43 PM

> While the president has the right to legitimate legal challenges, responsible citizens cannot let the reckless actions by him and his legal team stand. Republicans have an obligation when the subject is of such importance to challenge demagoguery and patently false statements

lol I'm guessing at some point someone realised "Oh crap he's not going to help us in Georgia because he doesn't give af" so now he's gone too far

Accusing actually dead actual Hugo Chavez of rigging the election probably didn't help

Sterno

Giuliani's sweating and hair dye running looked creepy, but honestly Jenna Ellis smiling in the background the whole time was worse

Tim Stone

Yes

Sterno

Imagine Biden being president, a vaccine being widely distributed, and Trump being indicted in 2021. What a turnaround year it would be!

Although I don't honestly believe Trump will ever face consequences

Unionhawk

No definitely not

Sterno

When even Tucker Carlson says "Uh... we need some proof, guys."

Tim Stone

2:55 PM

> "We're working on mass distribution of the virus." — Treasury Sec. Steve Mnuchin, who we hope is working on mass distribution of the ~vaccine~ and not the virus.

lol

Unionhawk

no he was right the first time

Wrigglenite

I think they did that a while ago

Tim Stone

@Sterno Yeah, though before anyone gives Tucker any credit he was likely just annoyed they didn't give him something to work with and wants them to come back with like, a missing package delivery, or something

Sterno

Don't worry, I'll never give Tucker any credit

Tim Stone

Accepted

> Sen. Rick Scott Tests Positive for COVID-19

Wipqozn

2:58 PM

some rumours floating around that my province is going to be shutting down high schools today, and that elementary will use the emptied high schools to split up their classes to reduce class sizes. Sounds like high school kids will be doing remote learning, and they're actually preparing chromebooks to send home with the high schoolers?

Great if true. Hopefully they start a program that parents who can't afford internet can apply for assistance.

Sterno

Our district started making kids take Chromebooks home every day (a new thing they've never done before) but promise everyone it has nothing to do with COVID or possible shutdowns. Sure.

Like, literally started doing this on Monday

Tim Stone

> Lin Wood alleged (in Georgia) that he could prove voter fraud occurred in this election because more people voted in some parts of Michigan than actually lived there. Damning stuff. Except...

> As this Powerline blog post shows, that expert confused Minnesota and Michigan. He was counting the population of towns in Minnesota, seeing they did not match Michigan towns, and finding fraud.

lmfao

Wipqozn

@Sterno I was going to ask "Why would they deny the obvious reason!?" but then I remembered where you live

I'm assuming your state schools are following Trump admins insane guidelines about denying Covid even exists

Sterno

I wouldn't go that far. Some counties are closed down right now

Unionhawk

It's fairly per district

Sterno

3:13 PM

To be fair, I assumed schools would be a huge spreader but it looks like the data says they aren't. I'm pretty surprised by that.

Unionhawk

I think a lot of districts are just pretending everything is fine

Sterno

But as overall community rates go up schools having to close anyway, even if they're not a major point of transmission, just due to staff shortages, necessary quarantines, etc

Wipqozn

@Sterno we've had some cases in schools now, but so far restaurants seem to be main reason of spread. mostly people who aren't properly self isolating.

which is why I didn't want schools to open. People travel, self isolate, but then everyone else in their household travels. They've now said "no, you ca't do that, that's fucking stupid and makes no sense"... but I suspect people still aren't listening.

Sterno

I mean, I get restaurants are fucked if they close, but it's so ridiculous that there's some idea that if you wear your mask while walking in and out it's fine, even though you have it off for the meal

Wipqozn

@Sterno We've done that here, and the idea is that the table;s are supposed to be socially distanced... in reality, though, a lot of restaurants haven't been doing that.

I think the pub which was one of the exposure poinst was packed.

Sterno

3:18 PM

Without great ventilation it's hard to imagine how social distances even matters in an indoor area like that with hundreds of people coming and going

Sorry I gave you COVID, Grandma, but I really need to sit in the restaurant while I had that Chili's Big Mouth Burger

Wipqozn

@Sterno yeah agreed

in anycase, we were done to 0 cases for a while so it made sense for us. But now we're above 20 again, so tiem to SHUT'ER DOWN.

SaintWacko

Must be nice to have a government that actually responds to increases in cases

Wipqozn

Well right now it's just rumours, so we'll see what happens in a couple hours when the conference is.

SaintWacko

Oh, excuse me, our governor has told restaurants and bars they need to close at 11, since everyone knows the coronavirus only comes out at night

Sterno

3:39 PM

Coronavirus also can't cross running water

Wipqozn

@Sterno Just like Hippos

Sterno

4:07 PM

Oh good. Now Trump is inviting PA legislators to the White House too

BradC

The corruption is right out in the open

Tim Stone

4:22 PM

Rudy Giuliani's Large Adult Son has tested positive for COVID now too

MBraedley

@Wipqozn I have the distinct feeling that we're going to takeout/delivery only on Monday for restaurants, closing gyms and rec centers, hair/nail salons, barber shops, etc.

If not province wide, then at least metro Halifax.

Wipqozn

4:46 PM

@MBraedley Agreed

Sterno

High School guy I knew who is on Facebook just posted a meme image of a mom talking to a son that says: "If you keep lying, Billy, you're going to grow up to be a fact checker."

...

Wrigglenite

It's nice of people to let you know you should not bother reconnecting with them

Sterno

It must be hard to live in a world where you believe things that have no proof, but believe anyone with proof is lying to you

Tim Stone

> Sen. Lamar Alexander, chairman of Senate HELP Committee, calls on Trump to allow transition process to begin, especially on vaccine distribution

Sterno

5:01 PM

Wow, he really dodges flat out saying Trump lost in that statement

while simultaneously telling him to put on his big boy pants

Tim Stone

Profiles in Courage™

Sterno

Yeah, we know, Donald. You're holding the party hostage.

I mean, screw them, but it's nice of you to flat out confirm it

Tim Stone

5:21 PM

> This morning, I asked @SenMikeShirkey if he would honor the will of Michigan voters in his meeting with Trump today. He responded by singing a hymn about being persecuted

Alright then

> Two Michigan legislators meet today with Donald Trump, who will inflict on them the political equivalent of blunt force trauma. The GOP's honor & integrity rest on the character of these two men. If they resist, we must come to their defense. If they falter, we are in trouble

Bolton feeling extremely conflicted over the prospect of installing an illegitimate right-wing government given that it's happening here instead of in some country he doesn't like (any other country)

Eddie Kal

@Jolenealaska That transition from Republican to Democrat coincides with the state becoming less, a lot less, white. See this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

in Census 1980: Non-Hispanic Whites 66.6%; 2010: 40%

BradC

5:39 PM

The Trump campaign’s much-hyped affidavit features a big, glaring error

> But as the Powerline blog first reported, the affidavit made a major mistake. Its data wasn’t actually from Michigan; it was from Minnesota. What’s more, its conclusions about over-votes even in those Minnesota locations aren’t backed up data from the Minnesota secretary of state or from previous elections.

Tim Stone

@Memor-X lol, it just has

Sterno

7:14 PM

@BradC Paywalled

ILLEGAL STARS. EXTERMINATE

SaintWacko

EXTERMINATE

EXSTARMINATE

EX-STAR, MATE

Sterno

I'm voting Rick Moranis in 2024

MBraedley

@Sterno Incognito window

Sterno

Why does that work?

Napoleon Wilson

Isn't he Canadian?

Sterno

7:26 PM

Maybe. Irrelevant

BradC

@Sterno Here's the article that noticed this issue first, at PowerLineblog, whoever that is:

DO TRUMP’S LAWYERS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING?

MBraedley

@Sterno Yeah, maybe only outside the US.

Sterno

It did work for me, and I'm in the US. I'm just surprised

Wipqozn

@Sterno A lot of paywalls for news companies just use cookies, so that' s probably why.

Sterno

> White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany dismissed reporters who shouted questions at the end of her Friday press briefing by declaring that she doesn’t call on “activists” before walking away from the podium.

Yeah, okay

Eddie Kal

7:41 PM

@Sterno Try this

Sterno

7:53 PM

Trump press conference on drug prices, couldn't resist saying again that he won and "you'll see"

Oh, and saying Pfizer delayed the news until after the election because they hate him apparently more than they like money

Napoleon Wilson

Just don't allow their vaccine now. That'll show 'em!

Elva

8:52 PM

@BradC I 'like' that this site just casually says that voter fraud is common in democrat voting places

> The venues in question are all in red Greater Minnesota, not in the blue urban areas where voter fraud is common

Like uuhmmm citation-needed

Nzall

@Elva It's a right wing site

Power Line

Power Line is an American conservative political blog, founded in May 2002. Its posts were originally written by three lawyers who attended Dartmouth College together, namely John H. Hinderaker, Scott W. Johnson, and Paul Mirengoff. The site is published by Publir LLC, founded by Joseph Malchow, also a Dartmouth graduate. The site gained recognition among the American right for its role in covering the Killian documents story that aired during the 2004 Presidential campaign about forged documents relating to President George W. Bush's term of service in the Texas Air National Guard, which kept...

Elva

I didn't realize 'right wing site' automatically means 'blatant disregard for what is factual' :o

Nzall

and mediabiasfactcheck.com/power-line

> Overall, we rate Power Line strongly right biased based on story selection that always favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of poor sources that have failed numerous fact checks, as well as rejecting the consensus of science when it comes to climate change.

@Elva In the states, most right wing sites are automatically more or less counterfactual, because the right wing politicians themselves often use hyperbole, veiled language and outright lies to whip up their voter base

Like, there are some right-wing politicians that are honest and well-educated, but in my experience, considering Trump himself spreads fake news even faster than COVID is spread around, right wing politicians who want to stay in his graces generally have no choice but to follow him

Sterno

@Elva Alternative facts!

Elva

gags

Wipqozn

10:06 PM

@Sterno ALTERNATIVE FACT: @Sterno is a young man!

Wipqozn

10:25 PM

More GOP Senators Have COVID Than Have Acknowledged That Joe Biden Won huffingtonpost.ca/entry/…

Napoleon Wilson

10:59 PM