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10:10 PM
My god. Nethack is the magical fountain from which endless rep flows.
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@sjohnston: us old people need to gain rep too!
 
It seems to sit squarely on the nexus of complexity and popularity.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I've gotten several hundred rep off nethack in the past week or two.
 
From Wikipedia:
> The Metroid Prime games disguised loading screens as elevator sequences when Samus moved between major areas. The Ratchet & Clank series uses a similar method. Much more recently, Mass Effect uses exactly the same technique to hide loading time.
Doesn't Portal do this too?
 
Yup
 
Much more notable than this 'Mass Effect' thing.
 
10:21 PM
In the first half of the game anyway (when doing the puzzle rooms). I don't recall if there are HL2-style loading screens in the latter half.
 
@sjohnston There's the rounded rectangle with Loading...
So yeah, HL2-style. Only in the elevators, except the last three maps obviously.
 
okay, that's what I thought
 
You know, after the cake is... put in the oven.
 
best spoiler avoidance ever
 
I do my best.
 
10:25 PM
may be exaggerating
 
The Aperture Science Computer-Aided Enrichment Center reminds you that after the test is completed, you will be baked, and then there will be cake.
 
Anyone else here downloading the DA2 demo?
 
How backwater am I if I ask what DA2 is?
 
Dragon Age 2
 
@GraceNote You're definitely a part of a river not reached by the current, where the water is stagnant.
 
10:30 PM
@Grace But I think we probably never played the same game, ever
 
@ArdaXi Equivalent to living under a rock, being a hick, or generally out of touch with modern society.
 
@GraceNote Oh. Not very, then, unless I am backwatered too.
 
@Fabian Are you PC primary or do you dabble in console as often?
 
@GraceNote I don't even own any console
 
@Fabian Why do you think I play Nethack? ;-)
 
10:32 PM
@Fabian Then I suppose that we indeed, probably have never played the same games. These days, the only PC games I play are niche/import indie games
Though I will eventually get Recettear
 
@GraceNote I thought you'd already played Recettear?
 
Of course you all know that, since you've all got it.
 
@ArdaXi I played Chantelise. Different EasyGameStation game.
 
Nowadays, I'm mostly playing RPGs on PC. And of course Civilization games
 
10:33 PM
Well, there was definitely talk of Recettear here. That's why I bought it.
 
I want Recettear, though it's not the only cute-shopkeeper-girl-game on my plate of upcoming titles, that's for sure.
@ArdaXi Talk here is what put it under my radar, too
 
@Brant Of course I have 10 stars. I fill up the bloody list. Against my will.
 
 
@GraceNote There are more? Oh wow, I am backwatering.
 
That and @badp's "state of the network" stuff
 
10:35 PM
I'd first have to find out if I could connect any console to my monitor, my TV is not very usable
@Brant I already got that badge
 
@Fabian It's new, isn't it? I was awarded it just now.
 
@ArdaXi I wouldn't call you behind-the-times for not knowing about the others on my list.
 
I also just got it
 
I mean, for all the Super Assassin Idol references I make, I don't even know if half the people in this room can name what game it is from.
 
@GraceNote I'm fairly sure at least half can't.
 
10:37 PM
@Grace Of course, you 're our super assassin idol
 
And yet, it's an English PS3 game released less than 6 months ago.
 
I'm gonna guess トリニティ・ユニバース, but that's just extension-aided Google-fu.
 
You didn't need to translate it to katakana... I own the English version on account of not speaking Japanese.
 
I have to admit, anything console-exclusive goes right by me, I might not even notice the game exists
 
@GraceNote I just copied them from the Wikipedia page.
 
10:39 PM
But you copied it right the first time, without translation...
 
That would make you スーパーアサシンアイドル・装飾音
 
BTW, how long does it take to launch an Area 51 site?
 
Yes, yes it would. ♪
@Fabian Depends. We technically would've launched nigh instantly if we hadn't been roadblocked by being too fast. Comparatively, some proposals take many many months.
Or do you mean the time between hitting 100% commitment and the start of the Beta stage? That's generally not too long.
 
I'm subscribed to a proposal at 100% since friday, I'm just wondering
 
Skeptic Exchange?
 
10:41 PM
@GraceNote Yep
 
oy, skeptic exchange AND atheism made it past commitment?
 
Usually takes under a week. I wouldn't sweat it.
 
@Brant Not atheism
I'm curious if it will work
 
Isn't atheism pretty much covered by sceptic exchange?
 
Depends totally on the community it attracted
 
10:42 PM
@ArdaXi Atheism predates Skeptic Exchange
Not to say it won't get absorbed, it might be discussed to do summat like that
 
@ArdaXi Skeptic exchange is targeted at pseudoscience, I'd hope it stays clear of religious matters
 
Their only overlap is their massive potential for flamewars.
 
@GraceNote I know, but still.
@Fabian Fairly sure it wasn't meant to, if I read the proposal correctly.
 
@ArdaXi Well, it turns out that I don't know much about Skeptics, so mayhaps there is no actual overlap
 
@Fabian And how is 'intelligent design' not a form of pseudoscience?
(Not to be offensive to anyone)
 
10:44 PM
I'm mostly interested in some resource that has the common rebuttals to pseudoscience like "vaccines cause autism", homeopathy, ...
 
Atheism is... not doing too hot. I don't actually go there very often, but to put it in perspective, three sites that launched after Atheism, including Guitars, have gotten pro tem assignments already, while Atheism has none.
 
I'm not interested in philosophical stuff
@GraceNote Atheism is pretty much dead, if you ask me
 
All the more reason for it to be absorbed.
 
@ArdaXi Not necessarily absorbed. If it's off-topic, it shouldn't be
 
It wasn't a good topic for a Q&A site to begin with
 
10:46 PM
It'll just end up phasing out like AI did.
 
I posted a very definite topic on Area 51 against merging Atheism and Skeptic Exchange
I think Skeptics Exchange has a chance as there are many objective questions to answer
 
@Fabian Ironically responded to with "Thanks for showing me the light"
 
@GraceNote I'm not usually illuminating people
 
Really?
 
10:49 PM
I know I'm the kind of person who wouldn't be able to contribute to SE.SE.
 
...you have a joke as a top-rated off-topic? Why didn't that get NAGE-RAGED to oblivion?
 
I just would like an SE site at the top of Google results that says:
**No, vaccines don't cause autism**
**No, homeopathy does not work**
 
@ArdaXi Who the hejudas is Tim Minchin?
 
@Fabian I can't even convince my biology teacher that homeopathy doesn't work.
@GraceNote Okay, so I was horribly mistaken.
 
Should I want to know who this person is?
 
10:51 PM
Probably not. He's not a very nice person.
I recall this being linked in here.
 
@ArdaXi That's pretty sad, although it really does not suprise me
 
Can't watch that here, but given your not-a-nice-person analysis I probably won't even watch it when I can.
 
@GraceNote Don't take me the wrong way, I think he's brilliant, but he's not really nice to people who believe in pseudoscience et al.
 
@ArdaXi I'm not really a fan of people being supra mean.
 
Homeopathy really suprises me, it's so obviously wrong but far too many people belive in it
 
10:54 PM
At least, in so far as situations that don't involve assassination.
 
@GraceNote I would agree, but the only people I debate it with are the people that insist on trying to convince me. That tends to annoy me after a while.
To illustrate, a mild example:
“So you don’t believe
In ANY Natural remedies?”

“On the contrary actually:
Before we came to tea,
I took a natural remedy
Derived from the bark of a willow tree
A painkiller that’s virtually side-effect free
It’s got a weird name,
Darling, what was it again?
Masprin?
Basprin?
Asprin!
Which I paid about a buck for
Down at my local drugstore.
 
@ArdaXi This is kinda why I don't enjoy debating. It was fun with Arnk, but it was tiresome after Shamgi.
 
@ArdaXi If he believes in homeopathy, he does believe in pseudoscience
 
@GraceNote It was fun with who, but tiresome after what?
@Fabian I'm talking about Tim Minchin there.
 
@ArdaXi Arnk is a lad who could debate her own sex. Shamgi was a person I knew who would jump into debates on anything, without provocation.
 
10:56 PM
@GraceNote points to his own title
(Un)fortunately, most of the people who are any good at debating usually agree with me.
 
@ArdaXi You're in between. Trust me, you're not the level of Shamgi.
 
@ArdaXi You haven't met any stubborn people yet
 
@GraceNote Trust me, I hold back a lot on here. I'm much much worse in real life.
@Fabian Oh yes I have. I said 'most'. Usually, those that are stubborn are not that good at debating. When I meet someone who is stubborn, contra-convinced and good at debating, I have entertainment for months.
 
@ArdaXi As much as your debating here on whether or not you're as bad as Shamgi is humorous, it's still not as bad. Unless you appear to debate for your own personal amusement at those who have to suffer at your words.
 
I'm pretty happy that I have never met any of the worst pseudoscience peddlers yet. I don't think I would have managed to keep my calm
 
10:59 PM
@GraceNote Again, I do much, much worse in real life. And yes, I do find personal entertainment in debate, as well as personal enrichment.
 
@ArdaXi Entertainment at the sport, or entertainment in the insufferable annoyance inflicted?
There's a world of difference
 
@GraceNote Depends on whom I'm doing it to.
 
Okay, well, I'm suffering now, and so I think I'm going to step out for a bit.
 
tries hard not to say anything
 
Back. Please, feel free to talk, @Arda. Don't let me be silencing you for something this light.
 
11:04 PM
@GraceNote Well, no, it's not that. It's just that if I would speak, I would only be more anno- damn, I'm doing it again.
 
No, no you aren't. There's a difference between explanatory and contradictory
Very hard to be not contradictory while contradicting, but it's subtly possible. ♪
Though... hehehe... this does give me ideas...
 
The point is, I do tend to argue everything. I have to work really hard not to.
If I hadn't stopped, I would've debated the fact I was annoying.
 
So, I'm off to playing the Dragon Age 2 demo, maybe it'll lead to some interesting questions.
 
Sorta like a snark reflex, @Arda?
 
@GraceNote Pretty much general "thinking you're better than everyone else" kind of thing. Which, by the way, is a natural part of the human psych- stop it
 
11:10 PM
Twintails or long and straight, @Arda?
 
@GraceNote Huh?
 
Just a simple, related question about girl's hairstyles. Don't try to read too deeply into the question, it may be a regrettable action. ♪
 
@GraceNote I... I'm confused.
 
I'd make ringlets an option but I don't know how wealthy you are. ♪
 
Now I'm even more confused.
looks at the rest of the room, with a confused look
 
11:13 PM
eats popcorn and watches from the sidelines
 
@TimStone Help?
 
I think you're on your own, now.
 
Come on! How much harm could there be in answering such a seemingly harmless question, @Arda? ♪
 
@GraceNote It's the seemingly that's worrying.
I feel as though that one question is going to finish your entire psychological profile on me.
 
Ooh, no, the psychological profile is already done. We're working on aesthetics. ♪
 
11:17 PM
@GraceNote Aesthetics of what/who?
 
 
@GraceNote I guess you can convert twintails into long and straight quickly, while the inverse isn't true
 
Oh good, reinforcements.
 
I mean, converting on the spot; just remove the elastic.
 
Let's make it easier, @Arda, I'll make the decision for you. ♪ What color of hair do you prefer?
 
11:18 PM
Why would you even...?
 
I think she's just finding you a new avatar.
If she isn't, that might help doing the right choice anyway :P
 
@badpDr I'm male. I know my pseudonym is a Turkish female name, but I'm not Turkish!
 
You wouldn't be the first male with a female avatar image.
I think I'm raining on Grace's parade, so I'll let the two of you sort it out
 
No!
I like Mars. :(
 
Relax, I'm not replacing your avatar. ♪
Physical constraints of appearance in the medium are unnecessary.
 
11:21 PM
I'm afraid most of the alternatives of whatever you're doing are worse.
 
Redhead? Black? Brunette? Blonde? Or perhaps something exotic? Highlights? Streaks? Tails?
 
Cmon, you can end worlds, save worlds, order chaos and annoy Mana and you can't choose a color?!
 
Alright, fine. I'll just say that I live up to my (actual) name in that regard.
 
...or find some die?
 
@GraceNote I want blue streaks!
 
11:24 PM
@TimStone Alright, you get blue streaks. ♪
 
@GraceNote Did you figure it out yet? :)
 
@ArdaXi I'm not sure what color Xi is.
 
@GraceNote Real first name, not nickname.
 
I made the mistake of allowing friends to use temporary hair colour on me at an event one time. That didn't end well.
 
@TimStone Green and orange stripes? :P
 
11:25 PM
I'm fairly sure I've used my real name here often before.
 
@badpDr Nah, it was mostly red and purple, but whoever had the red managed to really get it in there good...I had red patches that wouldn't come out for a week.
 
Ariën
But I don't know turkish
 
Turkish?
It's Dutch, Frisian to be specific, but that doesn't matter.
 
I thought you said it was a girly Turkish name
 
@GraceNote Arda is.
 
11:27 PM
Anyway, I'll deal with you when I get back home. ♪
 
Err...
So, who's still here?
 
Me, want popcorn?
offers an half-empty bag
 
Ah, that's where my popcorn went. I see how it is.
 
I kind of assumed the link between Ariën and a certain English loanword wouldn't be too hard to make...
 
Ariel? Oh I get it, you're a mermaid!
 
11:28 PM
@badpDr sighs
Try a bit harder than one letter.
 
He must collect whozitwhazits and thingadongdongs.
 
I suppose it's a bit sensitive, seeing as the word has negative connotations
 
Don't worry, we'll still let you hang around
 
Think about... 70 years back.
Why do I suck at riddles so much :(
Wait, did I just subclassify Frisian under Dutch? is very ashamed of himself
Why am I talking to myself?
 
because I'm busy doing that ↑
 
11:34 PM
@badpDr I hate you.
Seriously? That took you 10 minutes?
 
GIMP had to index the fonts.
 
I actually kind of want @GraceNote to come back.
 
@ArdaXi This, coming from you, somehow fails to surprise me
 
@badpDr is bullying me. I need a mod.
 
bah, I'd even chosen the hair for you.
 
11:37 PM
@badpDr You chose it for @TimStone
 
Does that look like @TimStone's gravatar?
 
I've made the decision, I just wasn't sure whether it was a good idea to tell @GraceNote
@badpDr It's random and poorly-made, so yeah.
 
@TimStone's too lazy to even have something like that
totally not his style
 
So very sorry for this, @TimStone.
When is @GraceNote coming back? It's actually rather late.
 
she left all of 13 minutes ago.
 
11:40 PM
That's not an answer
 
I know, you can only upvote it.
 
@badpDr I can only star it, actually. Which is also done for factually incorrect messages.
(Unless reverted by @GraceNote of course)
 
Comments don't need to be correct to be upvoted.
 
So... can anyone tell me why @GraceNote was interrogating me?
@badpDr I think @Mana has thoroughly proven that.
 
Why, have you made a non-terrible mod yet?
 
11:44 PM
@badpDr Having made a non-terrible mod does not negate the possibility of having made a terrible mod.
Not having made a mod, however, does.
 
You can still make a mod
How about an HL2 one?
 
I can, but I haven't, nor do I aspire to in the future.
If I make a game, I'll make the engine too.
 
@ArdaXi That's because you'll make a terrible mod.
 
Or use some kind of open-source engine.
 
You are aware of it as well.
 
11:46 PM
No, I will not make a mod.
 
The Prophecy has been made
someday, in twenty or thirty years, you'll be playing around with a game's mod making tools, and make a terrible mod, and not realize it
 
Self-fulfilling one.
Two-level self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
The best kind of prophecy
 
Whereas the one causes the other.
 
laughs at backlog between @Arda and @Grace
@Fabian I just finished playing the demo. It seems there's way fewer skills and talents.
 
11:49 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Laugh all you want. I'm going to have to schedule an emergency session with my psychologist first thing in the morning.
 
And tell him you've been thoroughly unnerved by a Super Assassin Idol?
 
Her, and yes.
 
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A: Most efficient way to make money in Gran Turismo 5

beani found a great way of making money get a formula gt/red bull x1 and do the like the wind at least probs 1,400,000 a hour!@!@!@!

does this make sense?
 
Why are you even linking that?
Just delete it.
 
It could be correct
 
11:51 PM
Does this help?
 
Being correct does help
 
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A: Giving away Steam games

LoveMeSomeCodeA lot of people are speaking to the legality of the issue, which is important. However, as far as practicality goes, yes, you can sell/give your account information to a friend. This is against their terms of service, and I'm not advising it, but technically you can't sell your WOW account eith...

 
@badpDr If you're in doubt, edit it to be acceptable.
 
Should that be deleted or should we just downvote into oblivion?
 
"do the like the wind at least" I can't make sense of this
or I'd have edited
 
11:54 PM
@FallenAngelEyes It's fine. We have a 'caveat lector' policy.
@badpDr I don't know the game, but that sounds like an event or something.
 
I know it sounds like that
 
Oh, hey @LessPopMoreFizz. Don't read the stuff that went on between me and @GraceNote please.
It's just my curiousity keeping me up now. How long has it been, @badp? Twitches
 

In Which Grace Note Investigates on Arda's Colour

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Now it's my colour?!
 
I made a bookmark to the stuff you shouldn't read, @LessPopMoreFizz, should you not want to read it
 
11:59 PM
I thought it was my preferred colour.
This, by the way, made me suspicious.
47 mins ago, by Grace Note
I'd make ringlets an option but I don't know how wealthy you are. ♪
 
@ArdaXi Less than you'd expect, for some values of 'it' but not some other values of 'it'
 
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