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5:07 AM
what on earth is positive frequency condition in quantum field theory?
 
Ah, I might be able to answer that. Give me five minutes, I need to recollect the argument I had made while learning about it
 
I found there seems also be this stuff in psychology when I searched by positive frequency condition on web.
 
Sounds like the positive energy condition, requiring energies are non-negative
 
I think I ever read something about positive frequency in Sparling's paper and someone answering my question in physics forum mentioned negative frequency, but I didn't know what these mean.
I just thought: "frequency must always be positive, so where can one encounter negative frequency?"
@bolbteppa but positive energy condition is only for gravity field, isn't it?
 
5:28 AM
Free particle solutions have terms of the form $e^{i p_{\mu} x^{\mu}}$, from $i p_{\mu} x^{\mu} = i (Et - \mathbf{p} \cdot \mathbf{r})$ you see energy $E$ acts as a frequency, $\omega t = E t$, and $E = \pm \sqrt{\mathbf{p}^2+m^2}$ produces both positive and negative values, however the minus sign can be seen as being an artifact of complex conjugation since we actually have $ i Et$ and then linked to a creation operator so that $E$ is ultimately always positive i.e. positive frequencies
 
6:01 AM
morning
Having negative frequencies is the root of having negative probabilities in a RQM theory, IIRC
which is a bad thing
 
6:18 AM
@Slereah what are negative probabilities? I read in Wikipedia about probability theory that positive probability can be extended to negative but I don't know how to extend.
 
@CaptainBohemian if you do a naive quantization of a relativistic point particle, the Hilbert space has states of negative probability
ie $\langle \Psi, \Psi \rangle < 0$
 
6:56 AM
@ACuriousMind how did you discover this site? This is gold!
 
7:12 AM
I first saw it when someone posted about it on Facebook. My favourite correlation is:
I bet you didn't know indigestion could prove fatal :-)
 
@SuperfastJellyfish It was pretty popular some time ago, I don't remember where I saw the link first
 
7:55 AM
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BuraianAlright, this is probably a weird question but sometimes I get two competing answers to a question both of which I think are very good. So, in case of a tie, how do I choose the answers?

 
8:47 AM
CN someone explain the double well potential in this wiki page?
I don't understand what d stands for
 
@Korra Why does it have to stand for anything?
From $E \prop d^2$ it follows it's proportional to the expectation value of momentum, but a priori it's just a parameter in the solution.
 
@ACuriousMind is it like the k in the equation for free particle?
Ψ(x)=Ae^(ikx)?
 
maybe? I don't really know what you mean by that, sure, it appears "at the same position" and is also related to momentum.
 
Okay thanks
we know that the wavefunction of a free particle is
ψ(x)=Ae^(ikx)+Be^(i(-k)x)
So can we let k have both positive and negative value where the positive represents traveling to the right and the other represents wave traveling to the left and then simply write
ψ(x)=Ae^(ikx)
Sorry, particle traveling to the left*
 
 
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10:55 AM
why does this work? directly replacing the quantity with its corresponding operator
 
define "work" :P
this is the definition of what canonical quantization does: You can't derive that it must work from some other principle, it just turns out - as an experimental fact about the world - that this indeed yields a good quantum description of many classical systems
 
why should directly substituting quantities with their corresponding operator in equation of quantity X result in the operator for X?
 
but it doesn't always 'work', and not for all variables - there's both abstract reasons (Groenewold-van Howe theorem) and practical reasons (what do you do with classical expression like $xp + px$?) it's not as straightforward as "just replace all variables by operators"
 
A wave function takes the form $\psi \approx e^{iS/\hbar}$ as you approach the classical limit, it's time derivative is $\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial t} = \frac{i}{\hbar} \frac{\partial S}{\partial t} \psi = - \frac{i}{\hbar} H \psi$ i.e. the Schrodinger equation. The Lagrangian possesses Galilean symmetry thus the Hamiltonian is fixed to be $p^2/2m + V(x,y,z)$. You then define the Hamiltonian to be the quantum operator which reduces to this form on the classical limit.
The momentum operator is found the exact same way.
 
@Yashas Why not? :P
you're essentially defining the operator $\hat{T}$ there to be $\hat{p}^2$, and you've got $\hat{p}$ defined from e.g. the argument bolbteppa alludes to
if you think this can be "wrong", you need to exhibit an alternative definition of $\hat{T}$ first
 
11:03 AM
This shows the basic issue with QM that freaked/s people out, it's existence is predicated on the existence of a theory it is more fundamental than yet must reduce to and without which would imply the theory is meaningless
 
 
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12:17 PM
If we're discussing contra/co-variance with regards to general coordinate transformations, are we asking whether an object transforms under the representation $d$ or $d^{-1}$ of the diffeomorphism group? So for example when we change from cartesian to polar coordinates, a covariant vector transforms as the group inverse of a covariant vector with respect to the diffeomorphism group?
 
The diffeomorphism doesn't act on the vector
The Jacobian does
 
hmm
if the Jacobian is an endomorphism, is it a representation of the diffeomorphism group?
That's basically what I was thinking, given a vector space and a representation of the diffeomorphism group, the Jacobians are a representation of this group
I'm basically just trying to reframe "coordinate transformation" properties of tensors in terms of how they transform under representations of groups
 
There is some relation between the diffeomorphism group and the endomorphisms of the vectors
which is the general linear group
Many diffeomorphisms can be represented by a section of the general linear group
 
So when we change from cartesian to polar coordinate we use the Jacobian, and this Jacobian is a representation of some element of the diffeomorphism gropu
 
I'm not quite sure if it's one to one though
Hm, a translation will have the same jacobian, for instance
$x \to x + a$ has the identity as its Jacobian
 
12:23 PM
hmm
 
but otherwise yes, a section of the general linear group will induce a diffeomorphism
Via vector flow
and vice versa, the Jacobian will induce some transformation
 
are we using section here in the same context as "section of the tangent bundle"?>
or just saying a subset
 
yes, except it's the section of a principal bundle here
 
ah ok I haven't learned about principle bundles yet
 
At every point you perform a change of the basis
 
12:25 PM
just say "GL(n)-valued function" :P
the section business is only relevant once you care about global properties
 
I don't know enough to say whether I do care about global properties :c
 
you very likely don't
 
I was basically just wondering if, given what was discussed yesterday about contra/co-variant vectors transforming by elements of the Lorentz group that are group-inverses of eachother, whether when we talk about general coordinate transformations (ie. Jacobians) we would say that the endomorphism Jacobians (not sure what else to call them) can be a representation of the diffeomorphism group
 
they're not
 
aww
 
12:29 PM
General coordinate transformations can both rotate the vector's basis but also rescale it and translate it to another point
 
yeah
 
so it is going to be larger than your basic Lorentz transformation
 
does that become a problem?
 
I mean everything does become a problem when you do mathematical physics
 
:(
 
12:30 PM
It depends what you want to do
 
@Charlie To expand on my "they're not": the Jacobians act on the (co)tangent spaces at every point (and hence by linear extension on all tensors) in the essentially unique $\mathrm{GL}(n)$ representation, so each diffeomorphism is mapped to infinitely many $\mathrm{GL}(n)$ values - one for each point. That's not a representation.
 
but even in a completely mathematical sense, the Jacobians that represent, say, cartesian to polar coordinate transformations, must correspond somehow to a group right
 
In a general sense, yes
ie diffeomorphisms themselves form a group
But not in the same sense than a group acting on a unique vector space
 
oh
 
@Charlie yes - at each point. And you can certainly form the ("gauge") group of GL(n)-valued functions. But that doesn't mean that you get a representation of this (infinite-dimensional!) group on a single vector space from this
there is a "representation" of this large group in some colloquial sense here certainly, but not in the formal sense of having a pair of one vector space and one representation map.
 
12:34 PM
If you're dealing with Minkowski space, it helps because every point of the tangent space can be mapped trivially to the manifold itself
So a Lorentz transform at a point can be turned into an entire diffeomorphism
but of course you can also do more local transformations even in Minkowski space
 
are things simpler if we just deal with a single vector space rather than dealing with tangent spaces
 
Sure
That's what you do in special relativity
Or classical mechanics
Spacetime is considered as a vector space
Rather than a manifold
It's a much easier structure to work with
It works in flat space because of that bijection between the spacetime and the tangent space
 
hmm
 
Since the tangent space is itself a vector space
 
does a "coordinate system" require a particular structure to define it?
as in, manifold structure or vector space structure
 
12:38 PM
Both of them have "coordinate systems", although the ones for manifolds are more general
Coordinate systems in vector spaces can only be linear transformations
of each other
 
because what's bothering me is how it is possibly well defined to have a vector space with a curvilinear coordinate system like polar coordinates
just because the $\hat\theta$ coordinate needs to be pointing at a different direction at each point
 
Well, if you do things rigorously, your polar coordinates are locally just $\mathbb{R}^2$ coordinates
 
it's not - curvilinear coordinates systems are for manifolds, not vector spaces :P
 
:o
 
and then you get a basis for the tangent space at every point
 
12:40 PM
ie the variation of $r$, $\theta$ and $\phi$ are locally just subsets of $\mathbb{R}^3$
then you just have the vector basis $e_r, e_\theta, e_\phi$
 
the $\mathbb{R}^n$ examples are very poor to see this distinction because the manifold - $\mathbb{R}^n$ - is isomorphic to its tangent spaces $\mathbb{R}^n$ so you can get away with a lot of conflation
 
oh I think i see what was being said earlier then, that the jacobian from cartesian to polar coordinates has to act on every tangent space of the manifold
@ACuriousMind yeah this is almost certainly what's tripping me up
 
and it doesn't help that instead of teaching the math physicists tend to talk as long as possible about "free vectors" or "vectors attached to a point" or whatever rather than do this bit of differential geometry :P
 
@ACuriousMind that's just what a bundle is :p
 
I think there's a different between explaining the elementary notions of manifolds and tangent spaces and doing bundles. Of course the tangent bundle is there but you don't really need to bother anyone with this notion unless you're gonna do something with it :P
 
12:45 PM
but then which of the many notion of the tangent space do you use!
There's like 5 definitions for the tangent space
 
the bundle view is equivalent to just working with local functions in trivializations. For many applications it's entirely sufficient to just work locally and never mention to global bundle object once
@Slereah and on smooth manifolds they're all isomorphic, what's the problem? Just pick the one you like!
 
@ACuriousMind what you've said here I think i get now, if we want to talk about the jacobian of cartesian to polar coordinates, we need to map one element of the diffeomorphism group to a particular jacobian acting on each tangent space
 
@ACuriousMind What if I don't like any of them
 
this makes this a many-to-one map and so not a representation
 
@Slereah make up your own
 
12:46 PM
@ACuriousMind It's a vector at a point
 
or rather, one-to-many
 
I mean, you can certainly "freeze" the map at one point - the map that maps a diffeomorphism to its Jacobian at a particular point would form a representation on the tangent space at that point, but that's not a very natural viewpoint to take
 
@ACuriousMind why not, it's the group of transformations for the tetrad associated to an observer!
Very natural
 
at that point I'd really question whether we're looking for any insight or have become Representation Hunters (TM) that just reflexively want to find representations :P
 
Does tm mean trademark or the tangent bundle
 
12:51 PM
the tangent bundle of the trademark manifold
 
Anyway, remember that polar coordinates aren't quite proper coordinates
At least globally
So be careful
You're supposed to map things to $\mathbb{R}^n$, not the sphere
The sphere is itself locally $\mathbb{R}^n$ so that is fine, but it can lead to some issues
Especially for $r = 0$
 
@ACuriousMind Sorry to disturb you. Can you tell me the meaning of “h bar”?
 
it's a constant in physics, $\hbar$
 
You're in the h bar!
 
such a great chat we got a fundamental constant named after us
 
12:56 PM
I thought it was so named for being a heroin bar
 
 
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2:00 PM
quick question, the expansion of a qft operator as: $$\phi(x)=\int\frac{\text d^3p}{(2\pi)^3}\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\omega_{p}}[a_{\vec p}e^{ip\cdot x}+a^\dagger_pe^{-ip\cdot x}],$$ this integral is over the entire real number line right?
argh
this ^
or rather, a volume integral over all of $R^3$
 
The integral is indicated by the measure here
$d^3p$
That is all of $\mathbb{R}^3$
 
ok ty
 
2:20 PM
How did things develop before evolution? No DNA = No evolution, but how DNA and cells came to be?
 
google abiogenesis
 
k thx
 
fwiw, it is a point of contention how exactly biological life started. it has to have started from somewhere, but exactly how this happened is afaik still not agreed upon
as in, exactly which chemical reaction created the first building block
although maybe my biology knowledge is outdated
 
some really lucky randomness must have happened to create the right molecules, which will combine to make cells, etc...
 
I would use the word "lucky" carefully here but essentially yes
 
2:30 PM
maybe God spawned atoms with specific properties and bound-favorings so naturally they attract each other to form cells or entities that are under the forces of evolution.
 
I don't think that's the mainstream scientific view
 
that sort of thinking falls under a range of views called "theistic evolution"
 
but maybe it's the right scientific view? lol joking
 
It would need to be "a" scientific view to qualify as a "mainstream" one :p
 
oh nvm
gotchya
So how things developed before evolution is unknown?
 
2:35 PM
Well, I imagine we know roughly which molecules have to have been present, but exactly what happened is difficult to answer, there are too many variables
 
well, "before evolution" would be the realm of geology, mostly :P
what's not known for certain is what actually happened between "there's no life" and "here's a bunch of cells with DNA/RNA in them" because unfortunately single cells don't leave many fossils
 
@ACuriousMind I mean, how the things that made evolution possible have developed
 
as soon as you have a replication process and a selection process you can have "evolution"
 
but do read the article on abiogenesis, there's a bunch of theories about lightning striking proteins sitting on rocks and whatnot
 
@ACuriousMind k will do, thx guys
 
2:38 PM
I think its called the miller urey experiment or something that struck a chemical pot to see if amino acids could be generates or soemthgin
yeah miller urey
 
3:17 PM
damn, the miller urey experiment worked, therefore by just having a bunch of elementary atoms and striking them with lightning we can get amino acids and therefore more complex structures from there? Could this be the answer to abiogenesis?
 
unless we manage to invent time travel we'll never know for certain
 
sure
 
but it's kinda funny that the origin of all life may not be so far from how Frankenstein's monster comes to life :P
 
Is momentum conserved in a frame which is in freefall and we take ourself and other body as a system in that frame?
As far as from that frame there is no external force?
 
Yes. A freefalling frame is still an inertial frame, so momentum conservation (at least the relativistic version) would hold
 
3:30 PM
Also do we take gravity in account while deriving the rocket equation
 
@sheltonBenjamin could you be more specific about what you mean by rocket equation? Assuming you are talking about the version of Newton's equation where instead of $ma$ you take $\\frac{d}{dt}(mv)$, yes you would need to take care of gravity
 
If you want your rocket to leave a planet, yes
 
maybe it's a fireworks rocket
 
No actually i got little bit confused while reading the derivation of a rocket equation I didn't read the title properly that its side neglecting the effects of gravity
 
Haha. But still, you need to take care of gravity. What would differ is that one can simply use $mg$ for the fireworks rockeet since it stays sufficiently close to the surface.
 
3:35 PM
but now I want to derive the equation in the presence of gravity so I was asking if I can apply conservation of momentum from the rocket frame of reference then use concept of relative velocity
 
@sheltonBenjamin as I recall the rocket equation calculates the delta v, which is the maximum change of velocity of the vehicle if gravity (or any other forces) are not acting.
 
Sir message before your's is it correct?
 
@sheltonBenjamin Which one?
 
@JohnRennie just before this one
 
5 mins ago, by xcodeking
Haha. But still, you need to take care of gravity. What would differ is that one can simply use $mg$ for the fireworks rockeet since it stays sufficiently close to the surface.
That one?
 
3:41 PM
Below this one mine message
 
6 mins ago, by shelton Benjamin
but now I want to derive the equation in the presence of gravity so I was asking if I can apply conservation of momentum from the rocket frame of reference then use concept of relative velocity
 
but now I want to derive the equation in the presence of gravity so I was asking if I can apply conservation of momentum from the rocket frame of reference then use concept of relative velocity
Yes
 
I don't think conservation of momentum in the rocket frame will work as you now have an external force (gravity) and that will change the momentum.
 
I think we have to use a frame which is freely falling outside rocket
But gravity is applied to both?
 
It all gets very complicated when you include gravity, because gravity changes with distance from the planet. To be honest I don't know a lot about doing these calculations.
 
3:44 PM
But is the intuition of taking a frame which is freely falling correct?
At least where gravity is approximately constant
 
@JohnRennie I'm guessing it's some special function
Either that or do a Taylor series
Like a lazy person
 
 
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5:44 PM
"The space of degenerate
states at a point k in the Brillouin zone provides a representation of the
group of the wave vector k." So I don't really understand what this means, how does a set of states (vectors) provide a representation (matrix)?
 
6:18 PM
@B.Brekke are you asking how can we get matrix from vectors?
 
6:41 PM
@B.Brekke A representation is not a matrix, it's a tuple: A vector space $V$ and some map $\rho : G \to \mathrm{GL}(V)$ that maps abstract group elements to matrices. I don't know what "the group of the wave vector $k$" is but likely this statement is trying to say that for the space of degenerate states there is a way for this group to act on it and the space is closed under this action.
 
 
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7:53 PM
How many f*cking times do I have to dislike a youtube ad for it to stop appearing?
I've already memorized the eToro and Grammarly ones
 
just use an adblocker if you don't want to see ads
 
^
 
I've used them for so long that I'm always shocked how the internet looks without one :P
 
8:25 PM
You can't block youtube video ads
or can you? :P
 
with an adblocker? yeah
not having to view awful youtube ads is about 90% of the reason to use an adblocker imo lol
 
I use ublock origin and I haven't seen a youtube ad in ages. Sometimes YT changes something and you'll see them until the block lists are updated but it's pretty rare in my personal experience
 

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