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2:00 PM
That might be the reason. I mean, it's not like nobody's interested in Aramaic anymore.
Helping you to close your braces :)
Otherwise the IDE will flag a syntax error.
Since 1990.
Aramaic is so not adorable.
But going retro with it is.
That's what people say when they're hopelessly out of date, you know.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
2:02 PM
Well, it was you who brought up that word, adorable.
I don't think Leet Speak is any more adorable than anything else.
No. In fact, it's less.
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2:05 PM
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Meh, the Russian, German, French, Spanish, Italian, and even Finnish titles are so much better.
La Cantatrice chauve est la première pièce de théâtre écrite par Eugène Ionesco. Mise en scène par Nicolas Bataille, la première eut lieu le 11 mai 1950 au théâtre des Noctambules. Elle fut publiée pour la première fois le 4 septembre 1952 par le Collège de 'Pataphysique. Depuis 1957, La Cantatrice chauve est jouée au théâtre de la Huchette, devenant l'une des pièces comptant le plus de représentations en France. La Cantatrice chauve a reçu un Molière d'honneur en 1989. La genèse de la pièce L'idée de la pièce est venue à Ionesco lorsqu'il a essayé d'apprendre l'anglais par le bi...
We don't have titles in America, because we don't have any hereditary nobility.
Take that, Count Dracula.
I've had enough pleonasms already, thank you.
2:09 PM
No sound. But ze graphix is so cuil.
Well, ya needz da sound.
I like ze graphix already.
No needs destroy ze magick.
That should be right up your alley.
When he heard about this piece, Igor Stravinsky said he hoped Mr. Cage would marshall his energies and produce a work of "major length" in the same style.
Hm... an amateur mushroom collector... that's more in line with my wife's interests.
I love that it's "Edition Peters" ... lolz.
The Deutsche Grammofon Gesellschaft of sheet music.
2:13 PM
Yeah, got a whole bunch of those at home.
Deutsche Grammaphon ...
Deutsche Grammophon is a German classical record label which was the foundation of the future corporation to be known as PolyGram. It is now part of Universal Music Group (UMG) since its acquisition and absorption of PolyGram in 1999, and it is also UMG's oldest active label. It is also the oldest surviving established record company. History Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft was founded in 1898 by German-born United States citizen Emile Berliner as the German branch of his Berliner Gramophone Company. Based in the city of Hannover (the founder's birthplace), the company had links with t...
Before you start throwing in Katakana.
Though actually,
ドイツ・グラモフォン (Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft) は、1898年12月にドイツ・ハノーファーで創設された、世界でもっとも長い歴史を持つクラシック音楽のレコードレーベルである。「イエロー・レーベル」と呼ばれて親しまれ、これまでに数々の名演、名盤を生み出している。 歴史 創設者は、円盤レコードの発明者でもあるエミール・ベルリナーで、同年イギリスで興した英グラモフォンの子会社として彼の生まれ故郷で設立。SP盤時代にはカルーソーやシャリアピン、メルバといった20世紀前半の代表的な歌手を擁してレパートリーを広げた。 1941年、英グラモフォンの資本をシーメンス (Siemens & Halske)が取得してドイツ資本の会社となる。1962年、オランダのフィリップスの音楽部門と業務提携しDGG/PPIグループを形成。1971年に米コロムビア・英EMIなどの競合会社に対抗するため、シーメンス・フィリップス両者合弁のポリグラムを持ち株会社としてフィリップス・レコード(フォノグラム)とともに同社の傘下に入る。ポリグラムの1980年代の事業拡張の失敗によって苦境に陥るが、フィリップスがソニーとともに開発したコンパクトディスク (CD) の市場拡大とともに業績を回復する。ハノーファーのCD工場は当時世界最大で、その製品の高い品質でも評価された。 ...
You're pretty fast on the keyboard for a Commie with no working "m" key.
Those lazy Japanese. It's not even Deutsch*e*.
They just go with their usual tsu.
Sure it is
Do - ee - tsu.
2:16 PM
Precisely my point.
Last syllable is vocalized.
Yes, I know the word doitsu, thank you very much. I just thought they would transliterate the name differently.
And how would you transliterate it, O Mighty Wiki Man?
My point is, if they transliterate the word Japanische, do they just go with 日本?
No. Japanische is not Japanese.
2:19 PM
That's what I'm talking about the whole time.
Don't forget, you're talking about a country that would render Alberto Fujimori's last name in katakana.
Actually I would like to forget about Katakana altogether, if you still remember.))
和 is their idea, after all.
YES YES YES I remember, please no self-referential C&P.
I guess it's okay from time to time.
Just not that recursive monster.
yesterday, by Robusto
I had considered 和 as well, but it has too many Japanese-y connotations. In addition to harmony it is how the Japanese refer to things that are Japanese.
Besides, the word "Japan" is a mistranslation of a mishearing of a Spanish misunderstanding of a Portuguese misunderstanding of a Japanese word. Or something like that.
2:25 PM
I thought that was China.
Maybe China is too.
In Russian, /ˈtʃaɪ.nə/ means, "here you have it, here's your tea"
Well, that's just a metonym, no?
Yeah, the awfully far-fetched urban legend goes like, you're sitting in your Vladivostok or something and then those funny people show up and offer you tea, and repeat "China, China", yadda yadda, it so makes zero sense that it hurts.
Especially since the land is called China in English but not in Chinese or Russian.
Asian country, 1550s, probably ultimately from Skt. Cina-s "the Chinese" (earliest European usage is in Italian, by Marco Polo), perhaps from Qin dynasty, which ruled 3c. B.C.E. Latinized as Sina, hence sinologist. The Chinese word for the country is Chung-kuo, lit. "the Middle Kingdom."
中国 is how they write it in 日本語. I think the hanzi character for country is slightly different, though.
2:31 PM
The Russian name, Китай, is actually related to the English Cathay
Cathay is the Anglicized version of "Catai" and an alternative name for China in English. It originates from the word Khitan(, Qìdān), the name of a nomadic people who founded the Liao Dynasty which ruled much of Northern China from 907 to 1125, and who had a state of their own (Kara-Khitan Khanate) centered around today's Kyrgyzstan for another century thereafter. Originally, "Catai" was the name applied by Central and Western Asians and Europeans to northern China; it obtained wide currency in Europe after the publication of Marco Polo's book (he referred to southern China as Manji)...
Also from Etymonline: Japan 1570s, via Port. Japao, Du. Japan, acquired in Malacca from Malay Japang, from Chinese jih pun "sunrise" (equivalent of Japanese Nippon), from jih "sun" + pun "origin." Earliest form in Europe was Marco Polo's Chipangu.
Interestingly, 本 is also the counter for cylindrical things, including bottles of beer. :)
From scroll, which is why it also means "book" in English.
I like how the word typhoon seems to have been invented independently in every language imaginable.
Just means "big wind".
Not in Russian, English, Portuguese or German.
Or Greek or Arabic.
What I find interesting is that
中国 means roughly the same thing as Old English *middangeard* and Latin *mediterranean* ... that is, "Middle Earth". So many cultures see themselves in the center of everything.
2:41 PM
Yeah, just look at Australian world maps.
There is the place we live, and everything else is north, south, east or west of us.
The possible exception is Japan, which is so far east that it calls itself the kingdom where the sun comes from.
I mean, you can't get farther east than that, right?
I think UK beats Japan hands down.
The phrase, "the Empire on which the sun never sets", has been used with variations to describe several global empires so large that there is always at least one part of their territory is in daylight. It has been used mainly of the Spanish Empire in the 16th and 17th century and of the British Empire, mainly in the late 19th and early 20th century. In fact, there have been even a few other empires, for example France with its former colonies, of which it could have been used for the same reason, but has not be generally so used. Georg Büchmann traces the idea to a speech in Herodotus' H...
Not since, like, 1948 has it been that.
2:44 PM
So? Japan has never been the kingdom where the Sun came from.
Now the sun goes down somewhere around tea time in winter and dinner in summertime.
Oh yeah? Well, it's already trademarked, so pfft to you.
The word trademark only has a meaning to the trademark owner.
Interesting fact: an informal Japanese term for America is 米国, beikoku — which means "Riceland".
We think of them as eating all the rice, but that's how they refer to us.
Hi folks... so vgv8 is not suspended at this point; I wrote to the two other mods and didn't get any response. I guess this is a problem with having a lame-duck administration...
@Kosmonaut: you failed to link to this question from your comment:
Q: Legos not LEGO?

xiaohouzi79I've seen many people make reference to LEGO as Legos. e.g. "I enjoy playing my Legos". But from my understanding this is incorrect and should be referred to simply as LEGO (in capitals as per company standards) i.e. "I enjoy playing with LEGO". There is no reference to the terms Legos on the o...

2:48 PM
Ah, perfect!
@Kosmonaut I hope you're not IM'ing that from your iPhone.
No, I'm not.
Your comment is much better now, but the italics are all broken. :P
I hate that
Yeah, I see so many people put in superfluous whitespaces because of that.
2:52 PM
@Robusto Actually the Mediterranean Sea is called so because it's surrounded by land, not because is the center of the Universe™.
@RegDwight: Whitespace didn't work there either.
I had to switch to quotes.
@kiamlaluno there are like five hundred seas surrounded by land.
Only one of them is called Mediterranean.
Thank God! At least we know to which one you are referring.
But that kind of disproves your point.
Mediterranean Sea is also the only sea that evaporated, probably.
2:55 PM
OMG was it the Tunisians? When will that madness stop?
Heh, someone flagged a comment of mine.
This is the first time evarr.
I like that comment.
Totally logical
Yeah, the funny thing was we had discussed that very issue here in chat with Robusto.
Feb 4 at 14:21, by RegDwight
There's an urban legend of sorts that accountants started writing $20 and not 20$ so that nobody could sneak in another digit.
And then...
Feb 4 at 15:56, by RegDwight
@Robusto: now guess what someone's commenting on the $20 vs 20$ question...
3:11 PM
I feel like snopes.com would have addressed this. Hmm...
Haven't checked. Good idea.
Nothing... but the folded 20-dollar bill saying "OSAMA" is funny.
Yes, haha
That's what you get for having too many letters on your banknotes.
Then again...
I should be silent...
That can be used to spell everything.
Dear RegDwight, you are ever so generous. However, please stop sending all your money to us in small unmarked bills over the chat, as it makes me feel unconfortable. With thanks, FX.
Whaddaya mean, "unmarked"???
And have you clicked on that bill? It's like bedsheet-sized.
3:26 PM
Is it king size, or queen size?
It's королевского размера.
I have a Russian banknote, but I don't find it anymore.
I have this banknote somewhere, I got it from a friend in exchange for a chewing gum.
The image doesn't do it justice, as it actually is bed-sheet sized.
(I am still wondering if the bed is king size, or queen size.)
I have answered that, as a matter of fact.
Королевского размера can be translated with both.
3:37 PM
That is why I am still wondering.
Now I wonder where I put that banknote.
Look under the bed sheets.
If I trashed it, I will kill myself.
That is the first I look; always.
@Robusto: see what you've done.
Feb 11 at 15:31, by Robusto
If we can get him to commit suicide, then I won't have to.
3:41 PM
The problem is that I find all, except what I am looking for.
That's why I always put everything into the same place.
There is exactly one pile on my desk right now.
Whatever I am looking for, it's in there.
Me too. The problem is that "the same place" changes all times.
Then you should look up same.))
I remember I placed it in the same magazine where I noticed it.
@kiamlaluno, you need to start looking for something entirely different. Say, the pair to that single orphaned sock in the back of your sock drawer.
3:44 PM
Those are con… Oh, "those".
@kiamlaluno Haha. My grandma used to hide a rouble in every book. And then there was a currency reform and she had to sift through her private library.
I should trash them: there are not chances they will get paired again.
I bought the banknote in USA, after I looked at a magazine they sent me.
If I find that magazine, I find the banknote too (and both are far from the socks).
Seriously, a one-ruble banknote?
I got it.
It's a 1000 rubles banknote.
@kiamlaluno, how do you know? Maybe the banknote and the other sock got together in the back of the toolshed and had a flock of wrench-shaped children. The point is, if you start looking in places that are only logical if you're searching for a sock, then you might find the banknote someplace you would never have thought to look.
3:52 PM
Does that mean I have too look where I don't put socks?
Uhmmm… In fact, it was not where I keep socks. :-)
It says odin rybl
33 mins ago, by RegDwight
user image
The big tip off is the numeral 1.
@Robusto: It's not the one I am talking of.
He's talking about his banknote.
I hope that's not a jinx yet.
Well, why did you answer if you didn't know which one I was talking about?
3:54 PM
Nope, not a jinx.
Thank Lord.
I referenced a one-ruble banknote, which exists in this chat stream.
@Robusto Who says I didn't?
Pass' auf, du Idiot!
Why do you think I was replying you?
3:55 PM
Who is here?
Because of the @Robusto at the front of your post.
That's thank the Lord. You god-hating commie. :p
That's usually a tip-off ...
@Martha I was waiting for that. It took you way too long.
3:56 PM
It's 8.5 inches by 5 inches.
Sorry, was distracted.
No, it's a two by four.
Distracted while we're discussing Lord?????
WTF? Inches? That's so not metric.
Lordy, how do you fit a banknote that's half a sheet of paper into a wallet?
Nor is English.
3:57 PM
@kiamlaluno — I rest my case ...
3 mins ago, by kiamlaluno
@Robusto: It's not the one I am talking of.
No, distracted by this so-called paying job.
@Martha You don't. You use a pocketbook.
In that case, how large are your pockets?
Just large enough to accomodate your books with money in'em.
Not even my large panniers would fit a book. Well, maybe a tiny one. But in that case, the book wouldn't be large enough for the banknote.
And I don't currently have a skirt that fits over the large panniers, so I usually just wear pockets - no hoops.
4:01 PM
Okay, let me walk you through from the very beginning. I have that bed sheet of a banknote. I have books. I have wallets. I have pockets. What I don't have are complaints. Everything works together nicely. Thank Lord.
But you don't have a pocketbook! Isn't that worthy of complaint?
Who said I don't or it isn't?
@Martha, "Thank Lord" is how a Russian (i.e. Commie) says "Thank the Lord" in English. It's common for them to drop the articles.
Drop articles. FTFY.
Or Spacebo' or just ... Space Boy!
4:04 PM
Besides, Martha's comment makes no sense at all.
8 mins ago, by Martha
That's thank the Lord. You god-hating commie. :p
I am not God hating. I am Lord hating.
I didn't say "Thank God".
Well, when you have a hardwood ruler, you don't need to make sense. You just need to make mayhem.
Your backyard.
The rake and mower are ready when you arrive.
I am pleased to hear that. For the fourteenth time today.
And the shrubs could use a bit of pruning, while you're at it.
4:06 PM
Well, see, but they're the same entity. Which you'd know if you were properly brought up as a child. But you were brought up as a commie. QED.
I will prune your shrubs just fine. Likewise, I will shrub your prunes to the best of my abilities.
@Martha If they are the same entity, how come it's "Thank the Lord" but "Thank God", you God-hating aunt Sam.
@Robusto, actually, I prefer a metal ruler. More flexible, hence more satisfying thwack.
@RegDwight, that's actually an interesting question. I think it's related to why it's "My Lord" but "Your Majesty".
I duly upvoted that other answer as you requested. Whatelsedoyouwant?
Geez, if I knew you were gonna post it, I would have posted it myself.
4:11 PM
What are we supposed to be upvoting?
What you said we are.
"This is the best answer by far. Here's hoping it'll eventually get voted above the others..."
Quick! Hide the goat!
Whoa, there's rchern at last.
Feb 17 at 15:10, by RegDwight
Don't worry, Martha, I'm caressing the goat as we speak.
@RegDwight, I don't remember leaving a comment like that - ?
But I do.
I'm here to help.
I'm your memory.
4:14 PM
We're being overrun by bunnies!
Whoops, gotta go.
Why are you thwacking me?
Feb 2 at 14:40, by RegDwight
It's entirely her fault.
So, whenever Nyuszika enters the room, Martha is either not here or "gotta go".
Whenever Nyuszika ain't here, Martha complains that she missed her.
4:17 PM
This account is temporarily suspended. The suspension period ends in 7 days.
Hi! (:
Now we've got two rcherns.
Let's play a smile game! Repeat me!
@FX_ I like how he replied to my comment on meta by saying that Novosibirsk is in the same time zone as New Zealand.
4:21 PM
@RegDwight I know you'll miss him :)
I'm not so sure.
2 days ago, by RegDwight
Sometimes I feel like I'm just feeding a mythical creature.
@RegDwight strange, cause I don't really see him as a naiad
that said, you're free to have your own opinion!
Hence the sometimes.
But anyhow, just in case you-know-who ever reads this: Novosibirsk is UTC+6, New Zealand is UTC+12.
yeah, well, same difference
He said that America and Europe are in the same ⅓.
4:29 PM
Ha, I actually recalled that as two thirds, and checked meta to be sure. Indeed, he went with one third.
I am still wondering why it takes me more than 8 hours to reach NY, but I guess they take a long detour on purpose.
Well, 8 hours is almost 6, and that's the difference between NZ and Novosibirsk, which are in the same time zone. Q.E.D.
Therefore, we are all in the same third of the planet.
It's turtles all the way down.
@RegDwight Turtles?
4:33 PM
I will not link to that question. If it even still exists.
What's up here in E&LU? I haven't been around since a while.
@Eldros It's E L&U :P
Well, have a look at the starred posts to the right for a brief overview.
@Nyuszika7H since when does one bother with typo on a chat
Also, elections.
4:41 PM
as long as they are not too frequent that is
@RegDwight Yeah I saw that. I would have thought that a few other would have nominate themselves, such as @Robusto, or @nohat though. (As far as I remember the actual moderators are only temporary and won't keep their post after the election.)
Speaking of whom...
... here he is.
that's timing
Robusto explained his reasons, here and elsewhere. Nohat said we should be expecting to hear from him soon.
ah well
21 hours ago, by nohat
@Martha expect to hear from me later today
Feb 17 at 14:11, by Benjol
@RegDwight ok, that's fair enough. I'm tempted to run, but I'm currently trying to cut down my consumption. (Unsuccessfully, as you can tell by my presence here!)
2 days ago, by Robusto
Yes, I'm power-mad. Just as well I'm not running for moderator, eh?
4:50 PM
oh thanks
The last one is not Robusto's actual explanation. Can't find that one. This one must suffice.
Ah, here: "1) I don't really have the time; 2) E&U.SE needs non-mods with high rep; and 3) I'm an anarchist at heart.".
Also, this.
2 days ago, by Robusto
See? This is the dirty little secret reason I do not want a moderator job. I don't want to run around performing janitorial chores.
Well, that's not a big problem, as I think there is enough qualified canditate
I already know where my first and second votes will land, but don't know whom I'll choose as third...
Yeah, we're fine with (at least) six people running.
2 days ago, by RegDwight
Speaking of mods, I have checked the other elections today, and we're actually leading with our 5 candidates.
2 days ago, by RegDwight
Most sites have 3 or 4, CrossValidated has only two(!) nominations.
2 days ago, by RegDwight
And it's only on Photographers that all three pro-tem mods are running.
Then again, Gaming did have twelve!
Well, most high rep users knows what they can do
@RegDwight That's Gaming for you
Yeah, but I'm still a bit envious. As is Kosmonaut, he would like us to see primaries.
Anyhow, I'll be leaving in a few minutes. Gotta go home.
4:59 PM
See you around
Okay, suspension did take place, btw.
See the top starred post))
Ah, I see! :)
Was it caused by the many down-vote that I see on his questions?
Nah, he had lots of upvotes as well.
It wasn't that clear-cut.
But in brief, a surprising amount of what he produced just didn't make sense to anyone, and people started complaining.
Lots of his questions had to be deleted as blatantly off-topic. Not just closed, deleted.
5:06 PM
Wow, that is extreme.
And then complaints on meta started piling up.
Q: Why were my questions on English meaning, usage and grammar closed and deleted?

vgv8I'd like to understand why my questions on English phrases, expressions, words usage, meaning, grammar and/or definitions were closed. What are out of this english.stackexchange.com board in them? What are conventional symbols in definition of a language? Does English have taboo-ed (unp...

(By him.)
Q: How should we handle users who generate consistently low-quality and off-topic questions?

FX_I agree so much with Dori's answer in this thread that I thought it was worth making it into a thread of its own. There has been a string of off-topic and low-quality questions (and, to a lower extent, answers) from user vgv8, that many users have expressed annoyance (whether in comments, on meta...

(About him.)
Anyhow, I'm out!
Wow that's a lot to read, I think I will keep that on the side until I have time. Because it is also time for me to go.
But anyway it is nice to see that there is more activity on the chat.
See you around folks
5:20 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Did you get my email last week concerning town hall availability times? (I always think it's me that's holding everything up).
5:36 PM
2 days ago, by Robusto
See? This is the dirty little secret reason I do not want a moderator job. I don't want to run around performing janitorial chores.
In my haste to be provocative, I didn't quite give the whole picture. It's not that I mind the occasional cleanup, etc. I just don't want to feel compelled to do scut work around here.
To quote Mark Twain (from Tom Sawyer):
"Tom said to himself that it was not such a hollow world, after all. He had discovered a great law of human action, without knowing it – namely, that in order to make a man or a boy covet a thing, it is only necessary to make the thing difficult to attain. If he had been a great and wise philosopher, like the writer of this book, he would now have comprehended that Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do, and that Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do.
And this would help him to understand why constructing artificial flowers or performing on a tread-mill is work, while rolling ten-pins or climbing Mont Blanc is only amusement."
That is an excellent quote. As usual.
Meanwhile, I'm not quite sure what's going on here:
Q: Metonyms in American Football: The National Football League

ZootWikipedia has a great definition of metonymy here, but I have a more specific question. The biggest user of NFL metonyms appears to be Gregg Easterbrook, writer of the Tuesday Morning Quarterback at ESPN.COM. Can I have a list of metnonyms used in American Football, particularly the National Foo...

Is the OP composing the list right here?
5:53 PM
@Robusto: great quote.
This is why I can only exercise by playing soccer or Dance Dance Revolution :)
I like my Wii Fit Plus.
For much the same reason.
Oh yeah, we have that too actually. Although I feel I get better cardio with DDR.
Try Hulahoops. DDR is nothing compared to that.
The Wii Fit one? That's true... but you should see the difficulty level I play with DDR :D
Okay, okay, okay.)))
5:58 PM
Not to brag though — I used to see kids at the arcade who are totally ridiculous and I can't even begin to compete with them.
You're getting old. On the plus side, you're getting wise. While those kids are just ridiculous all over.
Indeed I am!

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